junitman

zzzzzzzzzzzzz Gee... who went to sleep? LOL Mods (or whoever), that is just plain old tacky. C h e c k m a t e is his name and it is just childish to zzzzzzzzzzz it out like that. Now what if he wrote something and a poster lifted it and posted it here...How will you give due credit (well...if you even do)? To answer your question, it was posted today, citing a plethora of sources he pulled together (don't let the dates on it confuse you. Steve has over 37,000 documents in a library at his disposal on this stuff).

I actually copied it--- Here it is, but I wouldn't expect it to stay up for very long. lol Posted by Phoenix "Well there are many reasons for them to get the bills in and to make them void. 1. Control of outstanding wealth that could be hidden and used by terrorist. 2. Tight control of currency in circulation to meet IMF and World Bank standards. 3. Iraq may join the GCC and switch to the GCC common currency soon after the RV and to do that they MUST have 100% control of the currency in circulation for acurate transfer and accounting. Do I think this is a "set up"? YES I do! I strongly STRONGLY advise all to use your local bank and to support the United States banking system. Please be advised...the United States Patriot Act will be in 100% full force effect and all government eyes will be on every single Iraqi Dinar exchanged. I have always said that not everyone will be ok after the RV. Mark my words....there will be people arrested and funds siezed under the power of the Patriot Act. Every forum has federal agents as members...even this one. I see forums who are openly and some on a closed "membership only" basis advocating tax evasion and off shore ways of cheating the United States government out of due taxes. I see forums who are advocating the use of "charitible orgs. (501-3c)" to hide / insulate funds from taxation. I see people scamming people with bogus Trust that people are paying for. The Dinar forums are rife with scam and fraud and every single one of the scammers will go down and all involved with them will lose all of the wealth they are about to come into. This whole revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar is nothing less than "low hanging fruit" for the money hungrey federal government and ANYONE even SUSPECTED of fraud, tax evasion or ATTEMPTED tax evasion or ANY suspisious activity will have all funds siezed and or taken under the authority of the United States Patriot Act. This is like a test...and IF someone is so dishonest or so greedy or so stupid to attempt to hide money from the US Government then those people have will have failed the test and are either too greedy, too dishonest or too stupid to handle such a large amount of wealth and being so it is in the best intrest of the public that the wealth be siezed from those who are seen to be too dishonest or stupid to control such a large amount of money for the safety and well being of all. YES!..we must be wise with our money and YES we should do our best to retain as much as we can...BUT! This is to be done AFTER you exchange at your LOCAL BANK and AFTER you pay ALL DUE TAXES as advised by the tax pro of your choice. No joke....this is serious stuff. Best of luck to all. Phoenix"

Oooooh. Remember this post? http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/42835-the-iraqi-dinar-will-revalue/page__pid__280808__st__20entry280808 Now look at this: http://island-adv.com/2010/06/j-p-morgan-interests-bought-25-of-america%E2%80%99s-leading-newspapers-and-inserted-their-own-editors-in-order-to-control-the-media/ http://www.cnbc.com//id/15840232?video=1311362126&play=1 Hmmm...

A big AMEN to that. Totally bear witness with this..... Some of us KNOW that we KNOW we were led to this investment by the Lord's doing because of the circumstances surrounding how we came to know it, and how we came about deciding. I put out several "fleece" to make sure, and every single were answered not to me-- but to and through others unbeknownst to them. Crazy sounding to an unbeliever, I know.... But God takes what the the world considers foolish, to confound those who think themselves wise (the world).

Well, I did take note of the "Terms of Service" on DinarTrade's Order page...

Awesome!! I was aware of the general outline of these things, but am glad you were able to tie it in to the Iraq war and the dinar. Wow! I bet they eat LOPster.

No offense here... and I'm just a noob so whadda I know... but do we have to keep asking this? If they have sumthin to say, they'll say it. I'm sure since it's Thanksgiving, they're prolly w/ their families.

They mentioned investing in "deposits w/bank of bagdad" .... ain't that dinar? Either way, I think he was mainly referring to when they are formally on the stock market--- what kinds of things are good to invest in.

LMBO! Somebody's been dreaming of cheeseburgers in paradise!

Dude! Thanks!

Listen to the audio on the HOT HOT HOT thread. They explain it very well also, essentially saying the LOP that is being discussed per Iraq is for accounting reasons-- b/c the calculator/computers cannot compute the higher numbers with a bunch of zeros...SO they take three off to compute it but you do not lose the value..... I've never heard that before but it does makes sense.... the LOP in the sense of how it was done in other countries b/c of hyperinflation does not make sense. Iraq's inflation is around 2 or 3%... not enough to justify a LOP. Plus as everyone said--- private investors are only 2% of this --- COUNTRIES of the world have the other 98% (these are the merchants of the world who are going to be MADE RICH as per Rev. 18)...and I seriously DOUBT that these countries of the world FORGAVE Iraq's debt out of the goodness of their heart-- OR that Iraq is gonna turn around and give them the finger. As someone said earlier on this issue, do you really think the governments and companies are going to be eager to go help with rebuilding their infrastructure if they think they can't trust them? WOULD YOU?

Why so cranky? And aren't you trying to do exactly what you just said you don't do? So you DO exactly what you said you DON'T do. And what exactly do believers censor here? What are you referring to? If you are talking about others who step in about ill treatment and bashing of others or things they say... Well yes. That's true. But conscience and good manners should tell you that is not appropriate anyway.

I like $8.88 (which is # for Jesus) better. *wishful* I know. lol

Amen.... God sends rain on the just and unjust--- so there will be many who are blessed in this who are not Christians, but many more Christians will in turn use it to bless others and prepare them. If you understand the concept of JUBILEE in the bible, that is what this is all about, imho. Also, consider that Rev. 16:19 refers to babylon being divided into "three parts".... Well, there are three parties' represented in the GOI right now... just sayin....

THANK YOU syzygy, for passing this on~ Excellent Excellent explanation by DD.

Absolutely agree, marknet, 100%. Thank you. I do agree they will have to increase the value of the IQD-- a straight up LOP that is revenue neutral by CBI definition, would benefit no one and nothing, except to have the purpose of removing the higher denom's from circulation (which is the purpose anyway). According to RM's post quoting the CBI, a 25,000 IQD and a 25 IQD would then be the same for all intents and purposes, until such time as the 000's higher denom's are all removed from circulation. This first step would put the rate at .86. That's obviously not going to be the end result though, as they must then increase the value of the IQD (b/c this previous step is all revenue neutral) to raise the standard of living for the iraqi people (and keep the countries who forgave their debt, happy). If they did this as a two step, one right after the other process, then theoretically they could ... (and this is listed on DD "all possible scenarios" #3, so it is after researching it) .... 1) Do the straight up neutral LOP that would have the effect of beginning the removal of the higher denominations and raise the nominal rate to .86 and then, 2) Raise the nominal rate to the $3.22 range or higher. On 1 million, it would have this effect: 1 million becomes 1000 (after losing the 3 zeros) multiplied by the new RV of $3.22 = $3,220 Worse case, IMHO. But at least a profit. If this is wrong, then DD is wrong as well, b/c this is exactly one of the scenarios he lists. Personally, I prefer just a straight up RV to $3.22 or greater.

I plan on doing a gift letter to an Investment LLC (w/corp tax treatment) I will set up in Nevada. What is the tax rate the LLC will pay once the IQD are cashed in by the LLC? For whatever reason I thought I read it is 15%- Is that right? And of course items for the operation of the LLC can be purchased, and I understand dividends we receive are taxed as personal income. Correct? More insight you might have on this situation would be much appreciated, Mark.

Does anyone have a comment regarding Rocketman's explanation I posted above? He quotes the CBI regarding what a LOP is, that it IS revenue neutral-- and unless I'm reading it wrong, that is exactly what Chad said. So why all the hatin? I'm convinced that even if they DO a LOP though, it will be accompanied by a reasonable RV for the very reasons I stated earlier.

I'm a newbie too, but have to admit that the LOP thing worried me some until I finally reasoned it out like this (above). I'm not worried about it anymore for that very reason. What I think Chad is referring to though, FYI, is the fact that DD has it as a "possible" scenario for it to happen exactly as Chad has said. Not sure I can post the link here, but if you go to don't promote other sites website, he posted on 11/21 a repost of "all the possible outcomes" and the scenario Chad mentioning is in option 2. Also, I don't know if I can locate where I found rocketman's post on it, but he had a very good explanation of it that I had cut and saved for my own understanding: SO I guess what I'm hearing here is that if there is a LOP, at a minimum it would be accompanied by an RV (since a true LOP is revenue neutral)? That's how I'm understanding it. Like I said.... I don't forsee a LOP -- and no I'm not selling mine. LOL But at the very least this could be pinned somewhere, couldn't it? Is this understanding by rocketman and DD correct... or not????