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Nighthk11 Chat: 2/22/2011 @ 9:55 AM

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Nighthk11 Chat: (DV-Private Site) 2/22/11 @ 9:55 AM

9:55 AM [Nighthk11] Good Day DV- Hope all are well this day

9:55 AM [cosiangel] hello Night

9:56 AM [Nighthk11] I see that steve has some news on what I told you folks about last month concerning treasury people being in Iraq

9:57 AM [sslate] Hi Night, is your day going good?

9:57 AM [Nighthk11] Yes TY- I believe we may not see the Rv until thurs-friday of this week

9:59 AM [Nighthk11] In looking at what has happened and what the Iraqi info coming out is saying- I think they may feel an announcement on Thursday or Friday morning may be what they need to quell this discontent

9:59 AM [Nighthk11] Whatever they do is crisis management

10:01 AM [Nighthk11] Now US treasury will not leave until RV has been activated- and yes they have a history of RV on a Thursday- that is what I was thinking earlier on

10:01 AM [Nighthk11] But from my perspective- I would think it should be done early on so that it’s effects could filter down

10:02 AM [sslate] Are you thinking like an American

10:03 AM [Nighthk11] Yes, I was until I caught myself- and looked again- I believe they are assuming that an announcement directly before will effect a change in mood and attitude

10:03 AM [cosiangel] well Night I think they are taking a huge risk–as it is people are saying RV or no Rv the demonstrations will happen

10:04 AM [Nighthk11] Then I read something about the 27th of Feb- about them having to have it done by then- so much in rumors and bad press releases out make you go Mummmmmm

10:04 AM [DinarKing] i see your point there.. they will already be massed in great quantities

10:05 AM [tea] cosi, i think the demonstrations are on, regardless of whether the RV happens now or later. At this point, i think the most that they could hope to have happen is that the demonstrations will be more controlled.

10:05 AM [Nighthk11] Yes- that was my view also- they have already waited too late-to effect a change

10:05 AM [Nighthk11] whatever they are planning now- it will not change anything

10:06 AM [sslate] Too true tea. Hopefully it will be a controlled demonstration and not turn into rioting and blood shed

10:06 AM [DinarKing] Those yahoos may try to take over some of the camps

10:06 AM [Nighthk11] Now as I understand, everything is in place and yet we are still waiting- but they must have a release date and it must be very close with all the info coming out- rumor or not

10:07 AM [DinarKing] then there would be a lot of bloodshed

10:07 AM [DinarKing] that was my point earlier in the week

10:07 AM [Nighthk11] I think there will be more destruction of gov’t property than bloodshed

10:08 AM [Nighthk11] But I believe they are planning some kind of shock therapy for the masses

10:08 AM [DinarKing] yeah like an rv shock

10:08 AM [DinarKing] heck that will shock us too

10:09 AM [Nighthk11] Yes DK- I believe that is their reasoning now

10:09 AM [Nighthk11] It was alluded to in the msg from the General- They will all be happy

10:10 AM [DinarKing] he did get back to running water

10:10 AM [DinarKing] and said in the not to distant future

10:11 AM [Nighthk11] The US forces are NOT there to quell disturbance- That is an INTERNAL Iraqi issue brought on them by their failure to act- O has already informed Maliki of this- along with the fact that the US will NOT allow violence against the demonstrators-

10:13 AM [Nighthk11] The other telling statement I took from this msg was “They will be celebrating” In their mindset this is the RV- I don’t think it means anything else- But it is already Too Late to stop the demo’s hopefully he will be right

10:13 AM [cosiangel] Oh I know that US troops will not act: but what will happen if a million people show up and things go nuts?

10:13 AM [DinarKing] I was referring to the ones that might carry it too far and try to take over a US Military camp

10:14 AM [Nighthk11] Then their gov’t will fall- as it should be

10:14 AM [DinarKing] that will not be allowed either

10:14 AM [Nighthk11] DK- They will not do that- should they try as was done in Libya yesterday- they will be STOPPED DEAD IN THEIR TRACKS

10:14 AM [cosiangel] what chance do we have of seeing our RV if that happens?

10:15 AM [Nighthk11] The RV will happen no matter what transpires- as far as their gov’t falling- I am talking specifically about MALIKI

10:15 AM [DinarKing] that was my point Cosi. if the ones that think they are invincible

10:16 AM [DinarKing] Now you understand me Night

10:16 AM [Nighthk11] To fully understand what is going on folks- you have to look at actions- no matter what is printed or in rumors- look at the actions

10:17 AM [cosiangel] people in here keep saying that our US troops will step in if need be to control things–I don’t believe that

10:17 AM [Nighthk11] Yes DK- but Maliki’s demise has already been put in place

10:17 AM [DinarKing] no they can’t

10:17 AM [DinarKing] cosi their hands are tied

10:18 AM [DinarKing] but if anyone should bring the disturbance to the gates of the camps, then they will have to go

10:18 AM [DinarKing] that is all I am saying

10:18 AM [cosiangel] and that means then that our worst fears could be realized….the one thing that everyone has always said would set everything back indefinitely….

10:19 AM [Nighthk11] Please understand- What is happening now is strictly an Iraqi issue- the US will only protect their interest in the country same as Britain- now should they breech the green zone- and they will- as long as the demos are peaceful- there will be no problem

10:19 AM [Nighthk11] However the US and British Embassies are also located in the zone- they will be protected at any cost by the perspective gov’ts

10:19 AM [Nighthk11] The issue is with the Iraqi gov’t not the US and UK

10:21 AM [Nighthk11] There are an additional 15,000 US troops sent to iraq two months ago just for something like this- They were classified as “Special Troops”- I do NOT think demos at US facilities will be an issue

10:21 AM [cosiangel] I realize that night–problem is there are projected to be over a million Iraqi’s here joined by others from the ME: but the iraqi’s alone could easily number that large

10:21 AM [Nighthk11] Yes- so would you not agree they better get on it?

10:22 AM [cosiangel] oh most certainly

10:22 AM [Nighthk11] The issue is INTERNAL folks- they have a plan- just hope it works for them because the time is now

10:24 AM [Nighthk11] The info I gave you about the treasury people and the justice people is 100% correct- they are there and are NOT leaving until Maliki is fully contained- Treasury is there to insure the RV is properly activated as is the IMF and WB- Justice is there sto see that the “New Law” for Justice that was drafted is implemented and becomes law

10:26 AM [Nighthk11] I strongly believe at this point that the “Power Base” of Maliki is all but gone with the exception of his inner circle- It looks like he is about to throw Jabr (Former Finance Minister) under the bus with this new investigation into missing DFI funds

10:29 AM [Nighthk11] I also saw that the new council led by Allawi is moving forward with Maliki’s blessing- This is another indication as Chloe stated that his power base is about gone- he has no other choice then to go with the flow

10:30 AM [coolrizzzy] Nighthk11 , did that say the national council was voted on in parliament?

10:30 AM [Nighthk11] even Obama talk with him stated this- THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE WAY HE TRIED TO CHANGE THE BARZANI AGREEMENT” AT THAT POINT- I STATED THAT HE IS DONE FOR

10:31 AM [Nighthk11] Yes that council will be voted in by parliament (Which makes the laws) so that it has “Executive Power” To check Maliki and if necessary vote down anything he tries to do without Parliament approval

10:31 AM [coolrizzzy] Nighthk11, ok. i didn’t see an article stating that yet

10:32 AM [Nighthk11] It was in KUNA-Kuwaiti News

10:33 AM [coolrizzzy] today?

10:33 AM [Nighthk11] Two days ago

10:33 AM [coolrizzzy] thx

10:33 AM [Nighthk11] I still have people in Kuwait that are close in watching what is going on

10:34 AM [coolrizzzy] as recent as yesterday, i recall reading something where i think someone from the national allicance was saying it wouldn’t be voted on in parliament but they’re always saying that

10:34 AM [Nighthk11] Now Kuwaiti’s also are waiting with great expectation- They hold more dinars than we do as private citizens

10:35 AM [Nighthk11] They do not want the council voted on in parliament because it has the power to STOP THEM

10:35 AM [Nighthk11] However parliament has stated that the new council will be voted in by them

10:35 AM [coolrizzzy] ok good

10:35 AM [coolrizzzy] the news has been back and forth on that subject

10:36 AM [coolrizzzy] hard to keep track of what’s right

10:36 AM [Nighthk11] Remember Allawi WON the election- this was Biden-Obama trade off for letting Maliki be PM- When he tried to change the agreement- They have dropped him- Obama already said that his actions also are very telling No more support for the maliki gov’t

10:37 AM [cosiangel] People have been saying media is all smoke right now

10:37 AM [coolrizzzy] yeah that was really interesting

10:37 AM [Nighthk11] A lot of the media is smoke- but there is some truth so one has to look deep to get it

10:38 AM [coolrizzzy] Nighthk11, did you see that delta said the news of maliki going to Kuwait to plan an escape route etc was misinformation?

10:38 AM [cosiangel] Night: do you honestly truly believe they will activate the Rv before friday? or is there a chance they will not….what do you think?

10:39 AM [Nighthk11] Now I said yesterday that should Lybia use jets again to strafe innocent people- they would be challenged and if necessary shot down- that was echoed by Hillarious in a clever statement today- she said that the “International Community ” would NOT tolerate this type of conduct? Means to me they will use FORCE to stop it

10:41 AM [Nighthk11] Coolrizzy- it could have been leaked by Allawi guys to further discredit Maliki- or it could have been true- where and who put out it was false- That will tell us a lot

10:41 AM [chloe] night i posted an article last night about 40 troops from Il being sent to guard the Baghdad airport.

10:41 AM [Nighthk11] I believe the RV will occur this month hopefully this week by thurs- they cannot go much longer- if they do nothing with thr RV- it IMO will further show their non-concerns for the people

10:42 AM [cosiangel] if Iraq ends up like Egypt was..that is fine…

10:42 AM [Nighthk11] that will incur more and louder demos- probably more violent too

10:43 AM [chloe] also Sistani has come out in favorable of peaceful demons and criticized the goi

10:44 AM [Nighthk11] Their is a difference between the moodset in Iraq and that of other countries- Right now all they are calling for is “Services” by the gov’t- NOT the outright downfall- That will come later with failure on the GOI to act

10:44 AM [cosiangel] Egypt was controlled…but not crazy….

10:44 AM [Nighthk11] The demos in Iraq will also be in a controlled state- so far they have called for removal of mayors and governors- Maliki will be next

10:46 AM [Nighthk11] Is the news of the Kuwaiti issue believable?- YES to me it is- and even if false- Iraqi’s will believe it also- more importantly- members of the gov’t

10:46 AM [chloe] i took the info about the Baghdad airport to mean they don’t want maliki controlled people having control of it. and perhaps a guarantee of safe passage for maliki to leave

10:47 AM [DinarKing] I believe Maliki is in Basra

10:47 AM [Nighthk11] Yes- they must protect the airports as a viable means to enter and exit- so it may be true- I believe it is- given what has happened to other leaders in the ME

10:47 AM [DinarKing] he is not that dumb

10:47 AM [DinarKing] he can see Kuwait from there

10:47 AM [Nighthk11] But why would you be planning an escape if you had been doing right?

10:47 AM [chloe] yes i can see and thought perhaps they were trained to assist in landing and etc

10:47 AM [chloe] no

10:48 AM [chloe] just saying i am thinking maliki might be making a deal. or giving in

10:48 AM [Nighthk11] Once the US prez tells you on the phone that he does not support your gov’t- where do you go from there?

10:49 AM [chloe] you make a deal if you possibly can

10:49 AM [chloe] or desperately try and agree to everything

10:49 AM [chloe] article out that the Barzani agreement is back in play

10:49 AM [Nighthk11] I believe that to be true because of what was related to me concerning the Sec Gen- and UNSC decisions on Maliki’s failure to activate the Barzani Agreement- another chance they missed to RV

10:50 AM [Charstroy] owner of CC site,, interesting isn’t it folks?

10:50 AM [chloe] maliki’s back is against the warll

10:50 AM [Nighthk11] So in looking for the RV- I really believe we will see it this week

10:50 AM [Charstroy] got a call from someone saying they heard onabc radio news dinar would open on markewt soon

10:51 AM [Charstroy] market ,, sorry

10:51 AM [Charstroy] non typing today

10:51 AM [chloe] thanks charstroy

10:51 AM [chloe] also the iraqi list is backing chalabi for interior

10:51 AM [chloe] parliament has the votes

10:52 AM [Charstroy] believe me,, Cash and his wife,, (owners of CC) arent into sharing BS

10:52 AM [Nighthk11] My best guess on the dinar is 24-36 hours folks

10:52 AM [Charstroy] just a feel good statement,, our time will come

10:52 AM [chloe] thanks night

10:52 AM [Nighthk11] Thanks again BBL- All take care

10:52 AM [chloe] charstroy i know who you refer to and i agree with your comment. kind of you to share ty

10:52 AM [in4fun] thanks

10:52 AM [Charstroy] anytime

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10:11 AM [Nighthk11] The US forces are NOT there to quell disturbance- That is an INTERNAL Iraqi issue brought on them by their failure to act- O has already informed Maliki of this- along with the fact that the US will NOT allow violence against the demonstrators-

O has not done a thing with this and why should he, Kaddafi is killing his own people, Iran killed their own people (twice)... did he say anything then, no and he won't unless it is an ally... why would he say anything now... "O" has no intention of saying anything when it comes to nations that have an economic impact on the oil supply. If "K" in Libya burns his oil fields as he has promised, oil will go to 150 to 200 per barrel... Ports have been shut down today.. "O" has a plan, but I'm afraid it isn't in our best interest. Can you afford $8 per gallon fuel.... and the cost of food associated with that kind of increase.... We need leadership in this country, not rhetoric and Friday night parties at the WH... Are we cutting spending or are we just talking to hear ourselves talk. We need to get serious about these issues and get serious fast. A simple understanding of "We're Broke" should do for most Americans, but not the Unions... Hamas on the Southern Border, Striking teachers on the Northern border and Bankrupt States all around.... What is this country turning into... Get control people or I kid you not, we haven't seen problems yet.

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