Adam Montana

Thread closed - this forum is not here to discuss people, regardless of their honesty or lack thereof.... it's a DINAR forum. I think enough opinions have been expressed for people to make a decision if they want to... Let's get back to the important stuff. (Dinar, people. Not drama! )

Please email VIP@dinarvets.com for help on this, and I'll get to you right away. Cheers!

If one person says "that is a snake", I wouldn't fault you for questioning it. If 10 people say "that is a snake", and you want to go ask the snake if it's true - I won't feel sorry for you when you get bit.

I don't know if this is really TerryKs family or an impostor, but the facts are right on either way. TerryK has done exactly what this person says - hopped from one scam to the next, always looking for a way to take advantage of people for his own benefit. I understand the confusion, but : 1. I don't have anything to do with that site or TerryK. When he was on this site, I talked to him on the phone for long enough to guess that his intentions were not in the best interest of the members. When he started gathering the personal information of the members here, I banned him. Many were upset at me for that move, but I did it for the protection of the members here. As time goes on, it should be more and more apparent to everyone that I did the right thing. 2. i have been working hard on reinvestment options for the members of the VIP group. I will NEVER ask to even touch or be in the same room as your Dinar, nor will I ever ask anyone to trust me with it. I don't want to touch your money. You should be very leery of anyone who asks you to hand over your investment, for any reason!

Magic 8 Ball? RV today. Monday 8-9-10. You guys really pay attention to these guys? They have been kicked off of every site they are involved with for a reason. I fear for your safety if you pay attention to any of these known scam artists.

It can't happen right now, but there are a few things that can happen to speed it up. Check my chat from this morning for what needs to happen. Hopefully it was posted.

Ali didn't say that in this recording, and you're being an ass. Next time you want to be disrespectful - pick someone who doesn't have the ability to ban you.

@ the back-paddle comment! Way to call it like it is. Spec Investor, not once has the word "additional" been used. You're adding it in after the fact, which is a weak attempt to cover up instead of just admitting you were mistaken. There is no shame in being wrong once in a while, but false pride on the other hand - that's not a good thing. Let's just drop it before the name calling starts, because then nobody wins. Regarding the spread: Plenty of people are saying they are going to get the CBI rate with no spread and also saying the CBI rate is 1170, which clearly means they don't understand that the CBI has TWO rates, and they also don't quite understand that no matter what Ali "said", they are going to pay a spread. This is why I have a "Cash In guide" coming out this week - it covers spread and a few other things that need to be cleared up. Ali doesn't have to educate people on this type of stuff - it's not his job. As I said - he's a business man, not a charity organization. When you cash in, you are going to pay a spread. I don't care what Ali said - when you cash in, there is a spread involved. It doesn't matter what Ali said, what Ali is charging, or what color socks you are wearing when you cash in. THERE IS A SPREAD INVOLVED IN ANY CURRENCY EXCHANGE TRANSACTION.

You're very welcome, everyone. I understand this is a complicated issue. I have a cash in guide almost complete that covers EVERYTHING you need to know about cashing in and the spread, including the myths and misconceptions that are inherent. It's about 10 pages, but should be done soon.

All three of you are missing a very important part of what Ali said. He said he wouldn't ADD a spread. The CBI rate is 1168/1170 - that means the sell rate is 1170, and the buy rate is 1168. See that difference there? It's called a SPREAD. That means, quite simply, that when Ali gives you the rate from the CBI site the SPREAD IS INCLUDED! Ali is going to charge $150 ON TOP of the spread. He's not adding a spread, but he can't make the CBI pay more than they are listing. (Do you really think Ali is going to take a LOSS when he sells his Dinar back to Iraq? Are you nuts?!) FURTHER: Ali is not guaranteeing that the CBI will have the best rate! What if they increase their spread to get a better profit after RV? He will be paying what the CBI lists as a BUY rate, but that's not guaranteed to be the best rate!!!!!! Here's the bottom line: Ali may not ADD a spread, but you will PAY the spread someway somehow! Don't let the fine print fool you, friends!!!!! I know this is a complicated subject but everyone, please calm down and stop being a white knight for Ali. He's a business man, plain and simple - he's going to make money after the RV. He doesn't suddenly change into a charity organization - he's a BUSINESS man. Not a flipping angel. that was fun. Hope it helped!

Sorry, I was caught up in the moment. You are indeed correct, so again - I stand corrected. Dang! That's twice in one chat! I need to be on my toes around you cats! For the record, I didn't actually DO any math - I just threw the numbers out there! If I was doing taxes, I would have had a calculator. My point still stands - it's a foolish notion to throw this investment under the bus when there's nothing even remotely close to a single fact to back up WHY we would be doing that. Thanks for pointing it out, though. Where were you when I was in chat making a fool of myself with these crazy numbers?!?!

i stand corrected

I don't think it's too bright to sell at a loss, so I'm going to guess he's either a) not too bright or just causing drama for ratings. Either way, selling at a guaranteed loss isn't a smart move at this point. The worst possible news at this point is the possibility of a lop, in which case we break even or make a little money... WAY better than a guaranteed loss!

Email VIP@dinarvets.com and I'll get you taken care of. I answer most VIP emails within 4 hours, but 24 hours tops.

One word: diversify.

I have sources that tell me the CBI is already planning on undercutting the rate in order to suck in as much dinar as possible at the best rate possible. I obviously can't confirm this with a link, but ask yourself this: does it make sense that they would do that? The answer is yes, of COURSE they will do that. Personally, I don't care - I plan on reinvesting and making more than anyone who simply "cashes in" anyway.

That's a common misunderstanding about cashing in with Ali. He is saying no EXTRA spread. How do you think Ali will avoid paying the fees that major banks, such as Chase and Bank of America, pay when they do large transactions? Banks pay a fee to the government and to other banks when they do money exchanges and I'm sorry, but Ali is not above the government nor is he more powerful than a bank like Chase or Wells Fargo. Ali may not charge an EXTRA fee, but you cannot avoid the base spread. Ali can't avoid it, and he's not going to eat it! So, the bottom line is - you're paying the spread + $150 per million. Now THAT is a smart move! You're exactly right. However, I don't think the tellers even see the "spread", they just punch in the number and they get told how much to exchange it for. The "spread" is worked into the equation behind the scenes.

FYI it's very hard to answer questions that run into paragraphs Most banks will take the currency after RV, I'm guessing in less than 7 days. Cashing in with Ali is only advisable if you have no better alternatives or can't wait the 7 days I just mentioned.

Ali is not a bank. Ali is a currency dealer.

1/4% spread would be $2,500 per million, FYI. Can anyone point me to where Ali promised to keep his fees that low?

... I obviously need to do an update on this, as I've seen the question pop up a few times.. Expect it shortly. (Short answer: Ali may not charge an additional spread, but he will be CHARGED a spread, and that will be incorporated into your cost. Therefore, you will pay the bank spread + $150 to him per million you cash in. He's not going to eat the fees. If he was going to eat the fees, he wouldn't be charging a markup on his dinars right now.) Also, there is no guarantee that the CBI site will have the best rate. They may be underbidding to make profit when most people are cashing in.

Access is supposed to be instant, but it looks like you two hit a glitch.. send me an email at VIP-at-dinarvets.com (replace -at- with @) and include your username, the name on your credit card, and your request. I usually take care of those things the same day, but please give me at least 24 hours before you start looking for the complaint box.

That's an awesome 100th post. Thanks for being a supporting member, even if you can't be VIP. Positive posts like yours make the forum a better place for everyone to be!

Personally, I love this! The more Iraq is able to pay Kuwait Pre-RV, the more control they have over their own assets. This is a GREAT thing for us investors!

I'm releasing a white paper shortly that will cover many of the details. I can't give the names or details of the investments because a) it would be too easy for others to sabotage the relationships I've built and competition would diminish our returns. Part of the benefits of being VIP here include simple things you get right now: No ads, the ability to PM me and others, and access to a network of people that are obviously serious investors. The Post RV benefits are even better: Our VIP group has over 25 BILLION dinar. That kind of cash is unheard of in smaller groups, and many people know this already - so we have more leverage and better options. I have arrangements with foreign banks that will allow us to cash in almost 100% anonymously. I personally have contacts in Iraq that want us to re-invest, this is where we get the majority of our options. I have multiple contracts, in writing, that guarantee us a phenomenal return. These contracts are backed by securities that will blow your mind, quite simply.... etc etc. I'm not here to convince anyone to join VIP, but if you choose to do so and support the site now, before the RV, you will be rewarded with opportunities that the rest of the investors will not be able to get. You just said a mouthful, Sparky. You just told me and everyone else here that even though you don't have a clue what VIP is about, you would never join. Some people are too cheap to ever become wealthy, and refuse to understand that in order to make money - you have to spend money. In order to GET... you have to GIVE. VIP isn't a place for people with that kind of attitude, but you are of course free to use the rest of the site as you wish. (You might consider thanking a VIP member, though - they are the ones who keep this site running for you.) Hope that answered some questions. Oh, and lastly - I'm not asking anyone to let me touch even one dinar. All of you will be in control of your own investments, I don't want to hold or touch or manage any of it. I'm just going to present opportuniites for you to evaluate, decide, and acto on if YOU choose to do so.