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  1. This just seems like one of those 1,000 piece puzzles I did when I was younger. Time and patience were key.
  2. Bane Romans 6:7 NLT When we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin. As I stated earlier, no one has all the answers. Hopefully this helps though. When Eve was about to eat the 'apple', she stated that God said don't eat it or you will die. Did God lie? No, often God speaks in spirit terms. Eve did die spiritually, as we all are now born separated from God. Jesus came to connect us again, through His sacrifice. We choose to accept or reject God's free gift. He stated His will is that none should perish and states that hell was not made for man, but for satan and his demons. But by rejecting God (Jesus) we choose our final destination.
  3. Bane Go up a couple of posts for the references to eternal. Hell is eternal separation from God, not necessarily eternal burning. I am impressed with your search of the truth. I wish I had all the answers, no one does, however I have read the Bible cover to cover several times and will help with your search the best I can. There is no more important choice you have to get right. Best, messenger
  4. Correct. The soul dies, not the spirit. Matt 25:41 Then the King will turn and say, "away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons. Jude 1:7, Rev 21:8. The question is: What if we're wrong? The Bible, Jesus or God don't lie. IMPRESSIVE!
  5. Jesus didn't die. The body that he lived in died. He came from Heaven, lived as one of us to teach us and show us God and then allowed Himself to be crucified and tortured for our sins, knowing He would resume His rightful place back in Heaven. Remember there was no body in the grave.
  6. Bane...in the Bible it is written that a 1,000 years are but one day to God. Therefore, so far He has only waited a couple days so far, and the way things look like their going, we probably don't have many hours left. Also, to those that have denied Jesus so far, thank God He is giving them more time.
  7. You are absolutely right. However this is simply a comparison of how much time and energy we are investing in this Dinar which on an eternal level means nothing...vs. our decision to trust and accept Christ, which eternally means everything!
  8. We have all made a choice, I believe a good choice. We have invested in the Dinar. No one knows for sure if it is really going to RV, but we all have chosen to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars and hours reading, researching and discussing whether or not the RV is real. Shabibi himself has declared he will make the RV/RI happen, so here we are hoping and praying he is true to his word. If it doesn’t happen, what have we lost? For most of us, besides the time we spent, we will only lose approximately 20% of our investment as we sell. Now we have another choice that, in a way is similar to the Dinar. Jesus. No one alive has seen Him or knows for sure that He is really who He said He is. But do we invest the same amount of time studying His Word, researching and discussing whether or not He is real? Jesus himself declared, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me”. If Jesus isn’t real, what have we lost? Really, for most of us not much. Think about it…our eternity, whether Heaven or hell is up to us. Do we believe Jesus is a liar, lunatic, or who He said He was. God’s own Son! The choice is yours: I sure hope this Dinar thing works out the way we all believe, but if not… However if Jesus is who He said He was and we choose not to believe Him…What if we’re wrong?
  9. Thanks Urban. With all the stress of waiting for the RV. I thought this story may help us all realize what is really important! I hope this is who we are now - because LOTS OF MONEY doesn't make us better people...it just amplifies who we already are.
  10. One day, when I was a freshman in high school, I saw a kid from my class was walking home from school. His name was Kyle. It looked like he was carrying all of his books. I thought to myself, 'Why would anyone bring home all his books on a Friday? He must really be a nerd.' I had quite a weekend planned (parties and a football game with my friends tomorrow afternoon), so I shrugged my shoulders and went on. As I was walking, I saw a bunch of kids running toward him. They ran at him, knocking all his books out of his arms and tripping him so he landed in the dirt. His glasses went flying, and I saw them land in the grass about ten feet from him. He looked up and I saw this terrible sadness in his eyes My heart went out to him, so I jogged over to him as he crawled around looking for his glasses. I saw a tear in his eye as I handed him his glasses, so I said, 'those guys are jerks they really should get lives.” 'He looked at me and said, 'hey thanks!' There was a big smile on his face. It was one of those smiles that showed real gratitude. I helped him pick up his books, and asked him where he lived. As it turned out, he lived near me, so I asked him why I had never seen him before. He said he had gone to private school before now. I would have never hung out with a private school kid before. We talked all the way home, and I carried some of his books. He turned out to be a pretty cool kid. I asked him if he wanted to play a little football with my friends. He said yes. We hung out all weekend and the more I got to know Kyle the more I liked him, and my friends felt the same. Monday morning came, and there was Kyle with the huge stack of books again. I stopped and said, 'boy you are gonna really build some serious muscles with this pile of books everyday!’ 'He just laughed and handed me half the books. Over the next four years, Kyle and I became best friends. When we were seniors we began to think about college. Kyle decided on Georgetown and I was going to Duke. I knew that we would always be friends, that the miles would never be a problem. He was going to be a doctor and I was going for business on a football scholarship. Kyle was valedictorian of our class. I teased him all the time about being a nerd. He had to prepare a speech for graduation. I was so glad it wasn't me having to get up there and speak Graduation day, I saw Kyle and he looked great. He was one of those guys that really found himself during high school. He filled out and actually looked good in glasses. He had more dates than I had and all the girls loved him. Boy, sometimes I was jealous and today was one of those days. I could see that he was nervous about his speech. So, I smacked him on the back and said, 'Hey, big guy, you'll be great!' He looked at me with one of those looks (the really grateful one) and smiled. As he started his speech, he cleared his throat, and began 'Graduation is a time to thank those who helped you make it through those tough years. Your parents, your teachers, your siblings, maybe a coach...but mostly your friends... I am here to tell all of you that being a friend to someone is the best gift you can give them. I am going to tell you a story.' I just looked at my friend with disbelief as he talked about the first day we met. He had planned to kill himself over the weekend. He talked of how he had cleaned out his locker so his Mom wouldn't have to do it later and was carrying his stuff home. He looked hard at me and gave me a little smile. 'Thankfully, I was saved. My friend saved me from doing the unspeakable.' I heard the gasp go through the crowd as this handsome, popular boy told us all about his weakest moment. I saw his Mom and dad looking at me and smiling that same grateful smile. Not until that moment did I realize its depth. Never underestimate the power of your actions. With one small gesture you can change a person's life. For better or for worse. God puts us all in each others lives to impact one another in some way. Look around to see whose life you can impact.
  11. Philly - I think you missed the three laughing faces after my post. Of course I want this year, I wanted yesterday... and I know there is no such thing as a guaranteed RV date. I also know there are two things worrying will get you...1 - Ulcers and 2 - Headaches ... worrying won't get the RV here any faster than not. I say this with complete respect to the hard times that many of us are facing and hope that all of us would give up on the fighting attitudes the frustration of waiting is giving us.
  12. I would take a DEFINITELY January over a maybe December, November, Sept, Aug, July, blah, blah blah any day! :lol:
  13. Hmmmm very interesting. The @@@@ bank and the @@@ bank both say @#%&!! about the Dinar! Sounds like something to keep a close eye on.
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