truthseeker

really people, are you not aware that it aint going to happen until all the things he pointed out get better and oil is at least over $100 per barrel. facts !!!!!!!!!!!!! its fun to dream, i like to also but we have to have some reality which seems to get no welcome on this site. IMHO AND MY TRUE BELIEF, there will be an appreciation over time but never an RV

DEMOCRATS SICKEN ME. THEY DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT DAMAGE "RUN AND HIDE" STRATEGY DOES AND HOW OUR COUNTRY LOOKS LIKE WE CANNOT KEEP ANY PROMISES BUT WHAT DO WE EXPECT WITH OBAMA. BTW, DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A SINGLE PROMISE HE HAS KEPT EXCEPT RUN AND HIDE. COME ON 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frank makes a lot of money on that site with 11000 members and one thousand new each month. He has changed his theme ie, frank o meter, 1-2-3, t minus and now RD. Wonder whats next and when people will finally get tired of this

the scenario you speak of has only happened in KU and Germany but the former has happened many many times in 30 years. DO YOUR OFF FORUM HOMEWORK

Man you are so right. Currency is a supply and demand commodity and there is no demand. We dont drive demand, entities who buy billions do and there is NO evidence (except in forums)that they are buying. As I stated before, 16 times in the last 30 years , for reasons of devalued currency, it was re-denominated, (change in face without change in value) is the official dictionary defination, and RV same day at the same time and the basic value did not change as drastically as these people expect. Common sense says, why would Ali be selling as much Dinar as you can shovel money to him and even has a lay away program if what he was selling for $145.00 profit per million when if he TRUELY knew it was going to RV he would make billions. Where is he going to come up with $20 billion to cash everyone out days after the RV. Man I wish it would but my 56 years on this earth has shown me that if it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

Well we can talk about this here but no where else because it hurts sales. BUT i bet that what will happen will be redenomination and RV on same day with no basic value change. This has been done 16 times aroud the world in the past 30 years. But I am so sorry if this spacks in the face of the forums possitive attitude. I have written to at least 5 global economist with middle east backgrounds, 2 have responded and that was their opinion. I guess we will see in the next 90 days. Wow if it does this money making machine wll be over, ;>(((

anyone notice that Frank has now start saying R/D. hmmm could this be his latest out to the next 1-2-3, t-minus 125. Could this be a sly way to beging in the RD direction

so you say there has been factual documantation barkie< I am sorry but i have seen NO FACTS ON THIS OR ANY OTHER SITE AND BTW I AM NOT A NEWBIE. JUST GOT TIRED OF POSTING AND WENT OFF AND NOW BACK ON. I THINK IT IS LAUGHABLE THAT ANYONE THINKS THAT "FACTUAL DOCUMENTATION" HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. WHERE HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS FACTUAL DOCUMENTATION

truckerron49 Sorry dont mean to confuse. I try to get my information from other places than forums. That seems to explain what i feel is a valid point and when that point is posted it gets cut down as impossib le. I says basically that if a currencey re-denominates and RVs on the same day it would not be the huge windfall that we all want. Only time wil tel but i am hoping for the best but planning for the following. Lets say it redenominates on Friday and they pull 3 zeros and lets say you have 25000 dinars. Now the 25000 dinars is worth $21.36 usd. Now you have 25 dinar worth $21.36. Then they RV/RI to $3.22. Now you have $80.50 USD. You made a decent return but seems to me more plausable that that 25,000 worth $80,000 usd and that which i posted explains how this has happened in other countries. JMHO

I heard something EXTREMELY FUNNY YESTERDAY THAT OBAMA SAID. HE SAID " LET ME BE HONEST WITH YOU" I DONT KNOW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT BUT THE MAN HAS NEVER UTTERED THE TRUTH ABOUT ANY ONE THING SINCE HE WAS BORN BACK IN KENYA

HOW DOES THE FOLLOWING CONTRADICT WHAT THY ARE SAYING Currency redenomination is not a new phenomenon. It dates back to the 19th century but the most spectacular one was that of the German currency in the 1920s. According to Layna Mosley, “Among developing and transition nations, currency redenomination was employed on 60 occasions during the 1960-2003 period. These redenominations varied in size, from removing one zero from the currency (14 instances) to removing six zeros (9 instances); the median redenomination was three zeros, dividing the currency by 1000. Nineteen countries have used redenomination on one occasion, while ten countries have redenominated twice (sometimes, with many years in between, as in Bolivia, in 1963 and 1987; in other cases, redenominations follow rather quickly, as in Peru in 1985 and 1991). Argentina (4), the former Yugoslavia/Serbia (5), and Brazil (6) are the most frequent users of redenomination”. In the ongoing debate about the redenomination of the Nigerian currency, some commentators have been using the terms redenomination and revaluation interchangeably, i.e. to mean the same thing. Technically, this is wrong. Currency redenomination is different from both currency revaluation and currency appreciation. In strict terms, redenomination does not increase the “value” (or strength) of a currency in relation to other currencies per se. What happens when a currency is redenominated is that some zeros are dropped in the official exchange rate at “conversion” date, e.g. one US dollar = 1.25 new Naira (NN) = 125 “old naira” (N) on August 1, 2008 (i.e. NN1.0 = N100.00). On the other hand, currency revaluation is an increase in the value of a currency vis-à-vis other currencies under a fixed exchange rate system, i.e. when the government or monetary authorities arbitrarily fix the exchange rate. For instance, the naira is revalued when the exchange rate is changed from IUS$ =N130 to 1US$ = N125, i.e. increase in the value or strength of the naira because you now need fewer naira to buy a dollar. Devaluation is the opposite of revaluation, i.e. a decrease in the value of a currency via-a-vis other currencies under a fixed exchange rate system, e.g. change from 1US$=N125 to 1US$ to N130, meaning a decrease or fall in the strength or value of the naira because you will need more naira to buy a dollar. The terms currency appreciation and depreciation are used to describe a decrease and increase, respectively, in the value or strength of a currency vis-à-vis other currencies under a floating exchange rate system, i.e. when market forces generate changes in the value of the currency. However, it is possible for currency redenomination to occur (pari passu) with revaluation or appreciation, for instance, if on the day of redenomination in August 2008, the new exchange rate is fixed 1US$=NN1.25 when the exchange rate just before the redenomination was 1US$=N128 (with NN1.0 = N100). Similarly, redenomination can occur with devaluation or depreciation if the exchange rate is fixed at 1US$=NN1.25 when the exchange rate just before the redenomination was 1US$=N123.

During these last few years there has been many opinions about dropping the zeros and doing some investigation has uncovered many definations. One defination is "Redeominate" change the face of the currency without changing value. This is the most prevalent and one that brings the most controversy. People JUST DONT want to believe this could be true mostly because it would slow down dinar sales. I for one thought that if they dropped the zeros making 25,000 ($21.36 USD) 25 dinar then raising the value to $3.22 I would make about $63,192 off an initial investment of about $17,000. Not bad and would wish I had bought more. BUT THEN I READ THE ATTACHMENT and it seems that Nigeria in 2008 dropped 2 zeros and move the decimal point 2 places to left. Now that is interesting. It means to me that if Iraq dropped the 3 zeros and moved the decimal 3 places to left it seems it would be .86 and now my investment would be worth over $16 million. ANYWAY PLEASE READ ATTACHMENT AND TELL ME WHAT YOU ALL THINK http://www.gamji.com/article6000/NEWS7367.htm

Medic--------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Mailman17--------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Groovgal--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Frank26---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> ALI AND DINAR SALES The GET team--------------------------------------------------------------------------------> and now.... MrX-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Read more:

we pull out, REAL SMART OBAMA!!!!! the violense gets worse and the country falls into civil war and all our investment in people and money down the drain. saying: everywhere that liberals tread, leaves a path of bankrupcy and despair

this has to be the funniest thing I have ever heard. if someone has 10 dollars and says to someone I ll give you $10 for $5, then what was accomplished buy the buyer. These rumors are made by NON THINKERS

HA HA HA HA HA HA YEA RIGHT

been here for a long time looking using different names for reasons everyone understands. Been the same chatter, we're getting close, next week, next month, 2 months. Everytime that passes the timelines, a new reason emerges. The truth of the matter is that unless oil prices rise much higher, Iraq modernizes their drilling equipment, violence decreases, government gets organized, banks move into the 20th century and have much more capital with foreign investment, their agriculture production increases, their workforce is better trained, WE WILL BE HERE WITH THE SAME OLE CRAP 2 YEARS FROM NOW AND THESE WEBSITES WILL STILL BE THRIVING. !!!!PLAIN TRUTH!!!! AND WE WILL STILL BE DREAMING AND READING THINGS LIKE "GO RV" AND "THANKS FOR THE POST SCOOTER" AND "DONT FORGET TO HIT KTFM ON ALI WEBSITE SO WE GET CREDIT" NOW WE HEAR THAT ITS GOING TO BE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, EITHER SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER OR LATER, 'T MINUS 135". HOW ABOUT WE ALL MEET BACK HERE ON DECEMBER 31ST AND HAVE A CHAT AND HEAR WHY IT WILL ME IN MARCH FROM THE INTENSE INTEL EVERYONE GETS

Stevo, lets see the attachment or beter yet lets have the imf navagation info to that article so we can go to the IMF website and see it without getting an attachment with a trailer that says what you want it to, huh

I am connected by family member who is VP of currency research in NYC for BofA and I can tell you that he has absolutely guaranteed that there are no execs that have access or a clue about what he says here. Told me to get their names so he can talk through inter company email

Hello Everyone!! Like all of you, I have been coming on here for many months watching and scratching my head. I am sure that many of you wonder about the same things as I do. "Why do they really need to RV? How do these people who post as experts find out about secret meetings, conversations and secret delivery of documents"? What the IMF says and does as well as the UN, insinuating they have these stealthy contacts that funnel intel to them. I personally know high ranking army officers with state department contacts and they hear nothing about these rumors I was always under the impression that "INTEL" meant that there was an inside person secretly channeling information to someone and NOT reading articles and guessing and calling it intel. I became very frustrated and decided I would watch these forum sites from afar as a guest, never posting but instead using this as a part of my intel gathering plan. A little about my background. I was CEO of 2 energy companies, one in Shenzhen China,( US Tax and regulatory laws do not allow manufacturing in the US) and an engineering company in the southern US. We engineered complex critical back up systems for applications such as banks, military, NASA and many others. I have been through curency changes in China in 06 and found first hand how they affected my business just as much as unstable commodity prices such as lead, a major component of energy storage devices. In these 20 years, I made many friends and connections around the world and just by the nature of my position and the work we did, was able to meet people in high places. I decided to work on these connections to see if I could get closer to the truth about Iraq and not just by reading and trying to interpret news articles. I felt that unless I could find some true insiders then i would be forever reading these bogus reports of an RV/RI that never seems to happen. In this post and the following post i will reviel my methods and how i received the information. It will be up to you to believe or not but I wanted to make one more point. I am heavily invested in the dinar. I believe one thing from FACTS i have uncovered. Someday the dinar will be worth more than it is now UNLESS they erupt in civil war or the like. The first place i looked was Bank of America. I have a GREAT family member who graduated top in his class with double finance degrees from a top university. After paying his dues, he became the VP of currency research for BofA New York City. Wow, who could be better to start. I called hime last november and explained the entire sceneario and he began doing behind the schenes research and when he came home for Christmas he reported to me in person that BofA has no idea about these claims and that it was not even an approved, tradable currency and the rest of the complicated report was not good. SO I said thanks and discounted that because i felt that even in his position, maybe he was still an outsider and did not know. It did tell me one thing though, the people who report rumors that this bank branch manager/teller who were geting training regarding the dinar and all the other bank reports were just plain bs, PLAIN AND SIMPLE I have family members who graduated from Georgetown and Stanford and they were my next targets to see if i could get some world currency experts within their staff who could give me some perspectuive of why they would RV/RI not knowing that i would come accross the PHD professor that actually worked as a consultant for the US government within the banking system in Iraq. His job was to audit the main banks, TBI and CBI to see and report how to bring these banks into compliance for doing business globally. I was surprised when he answered my email and we wrote back and forth many times. His comments are shown below. Please read below; The Iraqi Dinar is NOT likely to be re-valued in the near future. The reasons are: 1) The noise about re-valuing the Dinar had arisen to keep the Dinar's value in line with the price of oil which had crossed $80 at NYMEX recently. The new pessimistic reports on the U.S. economy have depressed oil prices below $75. 2)Even as late as Jan 2010 the Central Bank of Iraq was selling gold to DEFEND the Dinar against a depreciation. 3)I believe that the revaluation of the Dinar will require a Prime Minister's approval. Neither the Central Bank nor the Parliament will be willing to make such a major policy move. If you would like me to do more rigorous research, let me know. Sincerely, Obviosly I entered into a consulting agreement with him to research more and to utilize his contacts and i will keep you all posted if you want me to, just say the word. THe CBI Has said they plan a redenomination before end 2010. They say in in all official CBI,GOI and IMF documents. Altering the face value of a currency without changing its foreign exchange rate is redenomination and NOT a revaluation. All the heads say this is just smoke and mirrors but never give concrete reasons why this is impossible but i ask all of you, why would they not remove zeros. Everyone still gains, just not 10,000%. For example, I have 20 million dinar that i paid a little over $17,000 USD. I have 800 bills 25,000 dinar. If they removed the zeros I would have 800 bills at 25 dinar and if they then RV to $3.22 my investment would be worth $64,400, a 378% gain instead of a gain of a $63,192,500.00. They would remove the three zeros without spending trillions and still have an RVed currency. Where does it make sense for Iraq to do the later. I would love the later believe me BUT WHY ????????????????? Truth MUST make sense to be the truth!!!! I have more research going on now and if you all are interested i will post regularly when i have news. Some I could post now but it is not complete and i made a promise to myself to never post until i have a complete verifyable picture. Another point I want to make and have everyone think about. Frank26 boasted recently he has 11,000 members and if we assume that half buy dinars from Ali and we assume further that they average 1 million dinar each, (i have 20 mil) then we see that there is about 5.5 billion dinar purchased which means that Ali needs over $ 17 billion US dollars ready for the cash in. He said he owns a bank. Does anyone know the name of this bank? I for one feel that it is a bit far fetched to be able to get $17 billion quickly. Does anyone else see what i am saying?? Another point, all these websites are very profitable, some more than others. Need I say more? In conclusion, I am not here to burst bubbles. I just want truth. This is a slow drawn out process but I am spending money and my time to dig past the news articles, past Med chats, Past Franks blue couch to slowly get to the sources that can tell us whether this will or will not happen. If I offend people because they think i am negative and I ruin their day to day dream pattern, I wont post anymore. ( BTW I walk the beach every morning dreaming what I would do with this money so I do understand) but if you want someone who can slowly and patiently gather TRUE INTEL I will do so. Please let me know. Thanks