krome2ez Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Last time I checked, your allowed to protect life and property. Man Fighting Fire Shocked By Police With Taser November 16, 2012 by Sam Rolley SCREENSHOTA Florida man who was attempting to keep a fire that had engulfed his neighbor’s house from reaching his own was shot with a Taser by police officers who told him to “let it go, that’s what insurance is for.” Daniel Jensen, a 42-year-old father of two, woke up early last Thursday evening to his neighbor’s house being engulfed in flames. After clearing his own home and making sure no one was inside his neighbor’s, the man proceeded to attempt to keep the flames from spreading to his property with a fire extinguisher and water hose, as the fire department had not arrived. “They kept telling me, ‘Let it go, that’s what insurance is for.’ That’s not acceptable to me,” Jensen told WTSP. The Pinellas Park Police Department claim that Jensen ignored several commands to get away from the fire, and that after exhausting all other options they were forced to use a stun gun to keep him and officers out of the path of the flame. The man was shot with the stun gun just as he grabbed a water hose to attempt to put out flames that were beginning to lick the roof of his home. “As I went to grab the hose, I hear an officer on this side. There was a boat here; he was just behind it. He said, ‘Hit him, hit him! Take him down, tase him!’” explained Jensen. “I didn’t know they were talking to me, or about me. I was concerned about putting water on the fire, and the next thing you know I’m being tased.” Jensen is filing suit against the department claiming that they used excessive force and poor judgment. “It was horrible. I was laying [sic] in a puddle of water being electrocuted here by the people that are supposed to protect us. I’m trying to protect my family, my neighbor, and they bring harm to me. I don’t understand,” he said. http://personalliberty.com/2012/11/16/man-fighting-fire-shocked-by-police-with-taser/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usndiver Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 This stinks for the homeowner but you have to look at the other side of the coin as well. Think of the giant stink that would have occurred if this man would have been injured or killed in his attempt to save his property. In this case I think the officers followed the "to protect and serve" motto. If the fire was "leaping" as the article states, his efforts were beyond futile. I'm not a fireman but I know that garden hose volume and pressure isn't going to get the job done. Thanks for the post, and I enjoy what you contribute to the site. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin7 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 No the police were wrong to taser him , over the last few years it sems like the taser and just shooting people has come to the accepted way of dealing with situations for the police. i guess it was too much to maybe walk over and talk with him, and escort him away . comments like thats what insurance is for dont cut it. now the officers involved may become defendants with the insurance industry investigation. our country gives you the right to protect your property and lives of yourself and your family . i think almost anyone would have been doing what he did . last year wildfires came to our woods and the firemen and police came and asked for our help with water hoses to help slow it down and lesen the impact of the fire. this also allowed them time to get older and younger homewowners out safely from othe properties. . when i was in the military we had been taught our mind is our best weapon , it seems like now all they learn is point and shoot. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid4dinar Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) This stinks for the homeowner but you have to look at the other side of the coin as well. Think of the giant stink that would have occurred if this man would have been injured or killed in his attempt to save his property. In this case I think the officers followed the "to protect and serve" motto. If the fire was "leaping" as the article states, his efforts were beyond futile. I'm not a fireman but I know that garden hose volume and pressure isn't going to get the job done. Thanks for the post, and I enjoy what you contribute to the site. This kind of logic is what is soooo wrong with our society. Those police officers should hve grabbed a=nother hose and tried to help preserve the american dream our homes. To you, I am glad you are not my neighbor. Shame on you for even commenting to support the poor weak cops that to me did not do their job.... 1st responders are just that..... jerk! Edited November 17, 2012 by kid4dinar 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usndiver Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 This kind of logic is what is soooo wrong with our society. Those police officers should hve grabbed a=nother hose and tried to help preserve the american dream our homes. To you, I am glad you are not my neighbor. Shame on you for even commenting to support the poor weak cops that to me did not do their job.... 1st responders are just that..... jerk! You missed my point. Perhaps if you knew a little bit about how intense a fire has to be in order to "jump" you would understand how futile his attempt was. If I had crayon font maybe you would better understand this illustration. Take a Weber grill, ignite a full bed of coals, and then try putting out the fire by urinating on it. It doesn't work. By the way, when referring to this country, always use a capital A. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kid4dinar Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 You missed my point. Perhaps if you knew a little bit about how intense a fire has to be in order to "jump" you would understand how futile his attempt was. If I had crayon font maybe you would better understand this illustration. Take a Weber grill, ignite a full bed of coals, and then try putting out the fire by urinating on it. It doesn't work. By the way, when referring to this country, always use a capital A. If you read your own story he was wetting his house, if you soak and keep it cool it won't burn, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarnie Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 In my mind the cops could have been right or wrong. We don't know all the facts as we weren't there. Could have been a propane tank near by, or did that block have natural gas? Don't know. What started the fire? Was it explosive? Don't know. I'm guessing these houses were pretty close together. What kind of house? Attached garage? Split level? Was the neighbors garage closest to the house? If yes, I'm sure that would present a lot more stuff that burns really fast, or has the potential to explode. Bottom line if the cops thought he was in danger, and he didn't listen. If a life was at stake. I think they did the right thing, but if there wasn't then they definitely did the wrong thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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