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They didn't rip the guts out of the country alone between 2001 and 2009.

Thanks Elmstreet61 and Maggie, you guys brought a new light about Libya. Your comment was not indecent Lutie.

Not about being right, about the economy ditch and how long it would take to climb out. We still won't know the new normal for a few more years.

Thanks OrDinarE! They can't argue the facts of where we were in 2008 and how deep. They pretty much avoid this thread. Great thing about the article, no one blames it on Bush. Just simple facts of history!

Tommy, China does not have a part in this piece of language from Romney. My question was on the subject of this thread; Romney saying Chrysler sending jobs to China. Do you know how Romney came to that statement?

Search "romney economy getting better"... Also, listen to his stomp speeches.

Main article was to remind folks of the conditions prior to 2009. Also a reminder that the economy had to go through its pains before it could get better. Economist, and Romney, have repeatedly said yes, the economy is getting better and manufacturing is returning. Bloomberg's endorsement is evident that we're on track.

Thanks Patty!!! +1

I follow you!

Hey Hey Hey --- Unbelievable people on this forum... Iranians are currently in the U.S. and they are trustworthy hardworking friends of ours. Denying assistance is one thing, but these attitudes are very offensive, C h r i s t i a n s.

Here comes the Independents! Read More New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg endorsed President Barack Obama for re-election, saying the president has gained “some important victories on issues that will help define our future,” including climate change, health care, education and *** rights. Bloomberg, a political independent who is the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News, contrasted Obama’s support for abortion rights and same- sex marriage with Republican challenger Mitt Romney’s opposition. Bloomberg also said Romney isn’t sufficiently concerned about climate change. “I want our president to place scientific evidence and risk management above electoral politics,” Bloomberg wrote. He described Romney as “a good and decent man” who would bring “valuable business experience” to the White House. He said Romney has taken “sensible positions” in the past on issues such as immigration, illegal guns and abortion rights and has “reversed course on all of them” in his presidential campaign. Earlier Stances “If the 1994 or 2003 version of Mitt Romney were running for president, I may well have voted for him because, like so many other independents, I have found the past four years to be, in a word, disappointing,” Bloomberg wrote. Bloomberg Endorses Obama, Citing Climate Change By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ Published: November 1, 2012 399 Comments In a surprise announcement, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday that Hurricane Sandy had reshaped his thinking about the presidential campaign and that as a result he was endorsing President Obama. Mr. Bloomberg, a political independent in his third term leading New York City, has been sharply critical of both Mr. Obama, a Democrat, and Mitt Romney, the president’s Republican rival, saying that both men have failed to candidly confront the problems afflicting the nation. But he said he had decided over the past several days that Mr. Obama was the best candidate to tackle the global climate change that the mayor believes contributed to the violent storm, which took the lives of at least 38 New Yorkers and caused billions of dollars in damage. “The devastation that Hurricane Sandy brought to New York City and much of the Northeast — in lost lives, lost homes and lost business — brought the stakes of next Tuesday’s presidential election into sharp relief,” Mr. Bloomberg wrote in an editorial for Bloomberg View. “Our climate is changing,” he wrote. “And while the increase in extreme weather we have experienced in New York City and around the world may or may not be the result of it, the risk that it may be — given the devastation it is wreaking — should be enough to compel all elected leaders to take immediate action.” Mr. Bloomberg’s announcement is another indication that Hurricane Sandy has influenced the presidential campaign. The storm, and the destruction it left in its wake, has dominated news coverage, transfixing the nation and prompting the candidates to halt their campaigning briefly.

What? Who? China? You have no idea how this began and you're commenting? WoW!

If you insist.

I understand your disappointment on those promises. Were they achievable, no way! Was he optimistic or just running for office, perhaps a little of both. The facts are the economy is moving again and must continue. As predicted, would take awhile.

If we're under the assumption that the economy is not getting better I would agree with you. Several economist, and Romney, have admitted the economy and manufacturing is moving again. Along with the fact that businesses are hiring consistently, although not very fast, this is what the country needs. With the predictions from 2008, the timing is as suggested. His plans just may be working Caz, it was a deep hole. What guys? The article is from October 2008.... wasn't excuses but predictions. Choose your own article to remind you of the economy: Google

Let's talk about the facts of a struggling economy and the turnaround of the economy. I won't entertain the exaggerations of the rumor mills, that's another thread!

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 "Likely to Get Worse before It Gets Better" What about the rest of the economy? Employment is falling. So are housing prices. The bulk of forecasters in the latest Wall Street Journal survey foresee home prices declining into 2009; nearly one in eight say they won't touch bottom until 2010. Prices of food and energy are rising. And a credit crunch is sure to make it tougher than usual for American consumers to borrow to keep spending. ... Offsetting that drag on the economy is the vigor of U.S. exports. And, of course, the impact of the interest-rate cuts the Fed already has made and the checks Mr. Bush and Congress decided to send to most American families this spring has yet to be fully felt. ... Nevertheless, the economy where most Americans live and work -- that is, off Wall Street -- looks likely to get worse before it gets better. My link

Or more killed, even their own lives may have been spared but I understand what makes a hero.

Article written October 2008 for those who have forgotten... Raymond C. Scheppach couldn't have been more right. After reading, ask yourself could anyone have done anything differently? My link October 10, 2008 Commentary: It could get worse before it gets better By Raymond C. Scheppach, Commentary Last December many states began to see declines in revenues as a result of the slowing economy. The August and September employment reports, which showed losses of 85,000 and 157,000 jobs, respectively, along with an increase in the unemployment rate to 6.1 percent, marked a dramatic acceleration in the downward revenue trend. Until that time, it was primarily decreasing sales and corporate taxes dragging down state coffers. With unemployment increasing, states now must contend with declines in income taxes as well. And given recent trends, the state fiscal situation will likely get even worse. Loss of liquidity and rising unemployment The liquidity crisis that peaked in September with the bankruptcy and consolidation of several investment and commercial banks has exacerbated the state fiscal decline in two respects. First, several states such as New Mexico and California were finding it difficult to borrow in the short-term credit market to finance expenditures until their monthly revenues were realized. Where credit was available, the interest rate had jumped-for example, from 1.8 percent to 5.15 percent just last week. In addition, a number of states now are unable to float long-run bonds to finance infrastructure such as highways, bridges and schools. This list includes Florida, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts and New Mexico. Second, the liquidity crisis has severely impacted the private sector, particularly small businesses that often need short-run financing to meet payrolls. This lack of credit has forced more layoffs and unemployment, and thus, state income-tax revenues are now declining more rapidly. Future risks Now that Congress has passed and President Bush has signed the $700 billion liquidity package, some credit should start flowing again, which should increase states' access to credit markets. Nevertheless, most economic forecasters believe that the U.S. economy is already in a recession and that it will continue at least through the second quarter of 2009 and possibly longer. The economy could well lose 200,000 jobs per month over the next several months, with unemployment peaking at between 7.5 percent and 8 percent. This means that states will continue to have major fiscal problems for at least two more years. The first year will be because the economy likely will be in recession for another 9 to 12 months. The second year, we know from experience, will be because states feel the greatest impact on their budgets the year after a recession ends. This is primarily attributable to growth in Medicaid, the state-federal health-care program for the poorest Americans. Medicaid rolls swell as more individuals become unemployed and lose their health insurance. Given that Medicaid is 23 percent of the average state's budget, these costs are significant. The combination of losses in tax revenue and major increases in Medicaid will require states to make significant cuts in other programs, including elementary and secondary education as well as higher education. It also will lead some states to increase taxes to meet their balanced budget requirements. As if that weren't enough, several risks could make the current situation much worse for states: 1. The value of housing still needs to fall nationally another 5 percent to 10 percent to be affordable relative to the average income. This, coupled with the fact that large numbers of subprime mortgages will trigger to higher rates over the next 18 months, will increase the number of defaults and put another major drag on the economy. 2. The $700 billion liquidity package just enacted will help only the residential mortgage problem. It does little to help credit card, automobile, student aid and commercial property bad debt. Thus, Congress will need to take additional action to recapitalize the banking industry. Until that happens, liquidity may continue to be a problem. 3. The world economy is slowing dramatically. Coupled with the increase in the value of the dollar, this slowdown will reduce U.S. exports, which have been one of the bright spots in the U.S. economy lately. The bottom line is that states are facing a very difficult fiscal outlook over the next two to three years. This economic downturn will likely be longer and more severe than any states have experienced since the downturn of 1982-1983, when unemployment hit double-digit levels. In short, the fiscal situation for states could get really ugly. Raymond C. Scheppach, Ph.D., is the executive director of the National Governors Association.

Finally a sensible comment from you Don.

Real quick, Either Woods was, or no longer was, a member of a Navy Team. Perhaps a member of the CIA as suggested. If Woods asked for permission to go in and he was told to stand down, he disobeyed orders. If he did not ask for permission to go, and was not given orders to go in, but acted on his on cognizance, he was KIA. Let the investigation report be completed. The military can't risk other troops if they are not clear of the battle. Woods appeared to be a hero in trying to save people in the CIA annex. A hero... Let it be and let the investigation report be completed.

D, --- First, Read why I made that simple comment to Timberwolf. Read the sentence I highlighted to Timberwolf!!!! Secondly, I'll wait on a news source to report from our (The US's) administration. That's the reasonable thing to do. Anything else will someday be irrelevant.

Well first time you made me laugh. Just having fun Snotrocket...