NIA Exposes Occupy Wall Street Truth

[krome2ez]

NIA Exposes Occupy Wall Street Truth

The Occupy Wall Street movement is gaining tons of momentum and is likely to continue picking up steam in the weeks and months ahead. Americans are angry but they aren't exactly sure what they are angry about and they don't know for sure who they should be angry with. It is easy for them to point their fingers at Wall Street, but Wall Street is in no way responsible for the financial crisis our country has today.

NIA believes that Occupy Wall Street protesters need to be educated to the facts and truth about the U.S. economy and what is truly causing our economic problems. NIA is getting ready to release 'Occupy Wall Street the Documentary', which NIA has produced so that Occupy Wall Street protesters can understand exactly what changes need to be made in America if our country is going to survive the Hyperinflationary Great Depression that will soon hit America and steal all remaining purchasing power that the U.S. dollar still has left.

NIA first saw signs of the protests taking place today back in November of 2009 when we were in Beverly Hills filming our documentary 'The Dollar Bubble'. We were alerted by NIA members to a major protest that was breaking out at the University of California. We went to see it and witnessed a very violent protest of students upset about a 32% increase in college tuition for the next semester.

The UCLA protest showed us just how angry Americans can become about inflation. Because we were forecasting massive food inflation to start breaking out in 2010, we made the prediction that we would see large "End the Fed" protests beginning in 2010. We did see massive food inflation in late 2010, accelerating greatly throughout 2011. However, we overestimated the ability for average Americans to quickly point the finger at the Federal Reserve. We also didn't expect many citizens of foreign countries, especially Arab nations, to begin protesting before Americans did.

About one year after the violent UCLA tuition inflation protest that we witnessed, a larger even more violent tuition inflation protest broke out in London. When Prince Charles' security detail made the mistake of driving him and the Duchess of Cornwall past the area where the protest was taking place, in a vehicle that cost more than what each protester will earn in the next ten years combined, about 50 of the protesters broke through the motorcycle police protecting the Prince chanting "Off with their heads!", beating on the side of their Rolls-Royce with sticks and bottles. Luckily, the car was armored and only suffered minor damages, keeping Prince Charles and the Duchess safe. A Jaguar behind it containing police officers was destroyed to the extent that the officers ended up using car doors from the Jaguar as shields, which still couldn't prevent six of them from being seriously injured.

The food inflation protests that NIA had been expecting for over a year, started to break out in late January of this year in Algeria, with citizens chanting "Bring Us Sugar!" Eight citizens were killed during the protests in Algeria. This quickly spread to a massive outbreak of civil unrest in neighboring Tunisia, where thousands protested food inflation and high unemployment. The Tunisian revolution led to the ousting of longtime President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, but came at the expense of 79 protesters being killed.

This rapidly spread to the riots in Egypt. Before the Egyptian protests even began, six Egyptian citizens committed suicide in front of government buildings by dousing themselves with fuel and lighting themselves on fire. All together, 846 protesters were killed across different parts of Egypt and over 6,000 more were injured. The Egyptian protesters were eventually successful at getting Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to resign from office.

NIA saw the resignation of Mubarak as a farce from the beginning. We couldn't understand how thousands of angry Egyptians who were calling for Mubarak's head would within seconds of his resignation announcement erupt into cheers like Egypt had just won the World Cup. The resignation of one man would not eliminate the corruption in Egypt's government and fix their inflation and jobs crisis. Most of Mubarak's cronies are still in power. Mubarak agreed to just take one for the team. For the protesters to declare victory and go home after one man announced his resignation shows that most of the protesters were sheep who were just copying their friends without having a real grasp on the issues affecting the economy in Egypt. What if Mubarak came back on television and said "I was just kidding" or "I just changed my mind and decided not to resign", would the protesters have come back?

After Egypt, the protests spread to Jordan and Yemen. Once again, food inflation was the main root cause of the protests, something that the mainstream media in the U.S. largely ignored when reporting on the protests. The American mainstream media was not allowed to discuss inflation when corresponding about the global inflation protests, because it didn't want the world to connect the dots and realize that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is more responsible for the global food inflation crisis and protests than the leader of any foreign country.

Because of the U.S. dollar's status as the world's reserve currency, the majority of the world's most important agricultural and energy commodities are traded in U.S. dollars. When Bernanke prints trillions of dollars out of thin air in an attempt to reinflate the Real Estate bubble and lower unemployment in the U.S., it has a direct affect on what foreigners pay for all goods and services around the world. With China printing massive amounts of Yuan to keep it pegged to the U.S. dollar and the Bank of Japan intervening to keep the Yen from appreciating too rapidly against the U.S. dollar, countries like Australia are now quick to blame any short-term dip in manufacturing, agriculture production, or energy commodity exports on their currency being too strong against not just the U.S. dollar but the Yen, Yuan, and most other fiat currencies.

In just the last two weeks, the Australian dollar has risen 9.5% against the Yen, 8.5% against the U.S. dollar, and 8.6% against the Yuan. It should be no surprise to NIA members that attempts to copy "Occupy Wall Street" in Australia have been dismal. After 1,000 protesters initially showed up in Sydney on Saturday for their own "Occupy Wall Street" protest that was supposed to continue "indefinitely", less than 50 protesters remained on Monday as most people returned to work. Australia doesn't have an inflation or unemployment crisis because their central bank did the right thing and raised interest rates to 4.75% at a time when everybody else was lowering them. This is why since the inception of NIA we have always suggested Australia as our top choice for Americans to move to if they want to get out of harms way before hyperinflation hits the U.S. We hope that the Reserve Bank of Australia will continue to do the right thing and ignore calls from all around the world for them to lower rates.

The mainstream media is currently once again focused on the financial crisis in Europe, which is temporarily distracting from the debt crisis that really matters in the U.S. On Halloween, the official U.S. national debt for the first time ever will surpass U.S. GDP. At any time now without any warning or any new catalyst, we could see a huge onslaught of dollar dumping that causes the economic equivalent of 9/11.

There is no hope of preventing hyperinflation in America when President Obama is unwilling to consider any measure that would cut government spending in a meaningful way. In August when the Budget Control Act of 2011 was enacted by Congress, the mainstream media was widely reporting that the "supercommittee" formed by the act would be in charge of finding $1.5 trillion in spending cuts by Thanksgiving. In reality, this "supercommittee" that Obama was so heavily relying on to pay for his proposals in his "jobs bill", is not responsible for finding $1.5 trillion in spending cuts but only a $1.5 trillion reduction in the budget deficit over 10 years.

Obama promises to veto any proposals that make large spending cuts, especially to entitlement programs. Many Democrats are calling for a new 5% "surcharge" on Americans earning over $1 million per year. Within a few years, an annual income of $1 million will only have the purchasing power of what a $100,000 salary has today. This proposed new tax would discourage small business owners from expanding and hiring new employees. It would destroy any remaining hope that is left for a real economic recovery and encourage most American entrepreneurs to leave the country permanently.

The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) yesterday released their consumer price index (CPI) data for the month of September. The BLS reported year-over-year CPI growth of 3.87%, the highest rate of U.S. price inflation in three years. The official government reported year-over-year U.S. price inflation rate of 3.87% for September was up from 3.77% in August, 3.63% in July, 3.56% in June, 3.57% in May, 3.16% in April, 2.68% in March, 2.11% in February, 1.63% in January, 1.5% in December, and 1.1% in November. Year-over-year increases in the CPI have risen by 252% over the last ten months.

Even year-over-year core-CPI growth rose for the 11th straight month to 1.97% in September, an increase of 223% from year-over-year growth of 0.61% in November. NIA estimates the real rate of U.S. price inflation to currently be 8.5% on a year-over-year basis. It was just announced that American retirees receiving Social Security will receive a 3.6% COLA increase, the first increase since 2009. Social Security is the main reason the U.S. government reports artificially low CPI numbers. By giving retired Americans only a 3.6% Social Security payment increase when real price inflation is now 8.5%, Congress gets to spend the difference in the ways they see fit.

With inflation spiraling out of control, the government knows that they soon won't be able to afford even the artificially low COLA increases they are making today. Congress is now exploring ways to keep future COLA increases as low as possible. Many clueless Keynesian economists in Washington are now arguing that the inflation measure the government uses to calculate COLA increases, the CPI-W, is overestimating true increases in the cost of living. These economists claim that Americans can shift between items and if veal prices are rising too much, they can eat chicken or if lobster prices are rising too much, they can eat shrimp. They propose that the government switches to a version of CPI that accounts for these changes, called "chain weighted" CPI.

All Americans know that their cost to maintain the same standard of living has increased by a lot more than 3.6% over the past year. The CPI-W being used today already artificially understates inflation so much that current Social Security recipients deserve to be receiving triple their current payments. If "chain weighted" CPI was being used today, American seniors would only receive a 3% COLA increase next year.

If the U.S. government did the right thing and invested all FICA tax receipts into gold, it would be able to give Social Security recipients an increase next year of around 8.5% like they should be entitled to. American seniors are being hurt most by inflation because health care has consistently had the highest rate of inflation out of all goods and services. A COLA increase of 3.6% is nothing when NIA estimates the real rate of health care inflation to currently be 15% or 76.5% higher than the overall real rate of price inflation. To artificially lower COLA increases even more would mean utter devastation to the U.S. economy as seniors would need to reenter the workforce and Americans with jobs would need to stop spending money on goods and services in order to help their parents. This would mean even less jobs for the youth in America and less support for them from their parents.

If you would like your friends and family members to be the first to see 'Occupy Wall Street the Documentary' coming soon, simply tell them to become a member of NIA for free today at: http://inflation.us

[mcjocky1]

Well well. I hope that this load of rubbish gets the court action that is deserved. What a complete and utter load of tripe this is. An armoured Jaguar was destroyed by students was it? They managed to rip the doors of a bullet proof and nearly bomb proof car. You might also re evaluate the worth of the vehicle involved (Rolls Royce)which was being used that night to transport the Royals, but there again you obviously know sod all about that as well. The level of threat was considered low to such a degree that the windows on the RR. were slightly open, a mistake IMO but such is life. Please Google this incident and see how far from the truth this report really is and ask yourself how much more of the article is subject to this persons personal objectivity. I think that there are very believable bits within this article taken as a whole but this portion does bring the rest down in my estimation. I say this as a non American mainly to try to let you see that if I read this in your media then it might well lower the credibility of anything else reported, even down to the level of some "translated" Iraqi news we see on here.

Edited October 20, 2011 by mcjocky1

[darwinatridge]

Don't hold your breath if you are expecting the US government to do the right thing. Starting with the person in the White House they have their own agenda. Never in my life have I seen leadership in America be so non responsive to the American people. Occupy Wall Street is nothing more than the same group of people from the sixties setting around doing drugs. They protested the Vietnam War without realizing that all they where doing was taking the eyes of America off of those who where busy stealing from America. Now all they are doing is distracting Americans from what Washington is doing. They do not have the guts to protest where the real problem is. With the aid of the Socialist News Media they are staying away from the White House where they should be protesting.

Edited October 20, 2011 by darwinatridge

[WallyWeaver]

Thanks for posting krome! Got the email myself this morning.

I have been following NIA for awhile now and have found their economic predictions to be pretty much right on the money.

I would love to see the "Occupy Wall Street" crowds pack up, clean up their trash, and move to their closest Federal Reserve building. Now that would be a proper application of direction of anger.

[Aqua Dude]

just a way to get everyone on the streets and away from their computer so they can't read anything and find out what is really going on....just a decoy....watch them all scatter when they hear the new numbers and new jobs that are gonna be coming in soon after the RV.....watch

[krome2ez]

Well well. I hope that this load of rubbish gets the court action that is deserved. What a complete and utter load of tripe this is. An armoured Jaguar was destroyed by students was it? They managed to rip the doors of a bullet proof and nearly bomb proof car. You might also re evaluate the worth of the vehicle involved (Rolls Royce)which was being used that night to transport the Royals, but there again you obviously know sod all about that as well. The level of threat was considered low to such a degree that the windows on the RR. were slightly open, a mistake IMO but such is life. Please Google this incident and see how far from the truth this report really is and ask yourself how much more of the article is subject to this persons personal objectivity. I think that there are very believable bits within this article taken as a whole but this portion does bring the rest down in my estimation. I say this as a non American mainly to try to let you see that if I read this in your media then it might well lower the credibility of anything else reported, even down to the level of some "translated" Iraqi news we see on here.

The report that I posted never said that the Jag was bullet, bomb, or anything proof.

I wasn't there, so I did take your advise and googled the story, and this story backs up the first.

Posting it here for you to check it out for your self, along with a link.

'They were lucky not to be shot': Police chief says armed officers showed 'enormous restraint' as mob attacked Charles and Camilla

By Tim Shipman and Gerri Peev

Last updated at 1:58 PM on 10th December 2010

Met chief Sir Paul Stephenson today mounted an extraordinary defence of armed protection officers after the worst Royal security blunder in a generation.

Sir Paul hailed the 'enormous restraint' of the team guarding Prince Charles and his wife the Duchess of Cornwall, implying the rioters were lucky not to have been shot.

Camilla was left terrified as their Rolls Royce came under fire from a snarling mob of student fees rioters as it made its way to the Royal Variety Performance at the London Palladium.

The car was kicked, rocked and hit with paint bombs as up to 20 demonstrators attacked it and chanted 'Off with their heads!' and 'Tory scum', leaving the couple visibly shaken.

The Prince and Duchess were not hurt but the potential risk to their safety raised worrying echoes of the 1974 kidnap attempt on Princess Anne.

As serious questions were being asked about Royal security, Britain's top policeman condemned the 'hugely regrettable and shocking incident' but insisted proper procedure was followed.

Sir Paul said: 'I do think that the officers who were protecting their Royal Highnesses showed very real restraint - some of those officers were armed.

'Their priority was to get that car to the point of safety, which was the venue, and that was achieved, but it was a hugely shocking incident and there will be a full criminal investigation into it.'

He insisted that the route was 'thoroughly recced, including minutes beforehand. I think what you have to remember is the unpredictability of ... these thugs, in the way in which they were moving around London.'

The Met Commissioner promised there would be a 'full and thorough' investigation but stressed there had to be a balance between security and allowing the Royals to interact with the public.

'Short of locking everything down, then frankly we have to do our best to try and achieve that balance that facilitates that closeness with the public while still providing security,' he said.

'Yesterday was a very shocking incident but minutes beforehand that route was clear; a very unpredictable demonstration, a very difficult night.

Dai Davies, the former head of Scotland Yard's royal protection squad, said Sir Paul must be 'embarrassed and surprised' at the security lapse.

He questioned why a different car had not been used or alternative routes to keep the Prince and his wife out of harm's way.

'Presumably someone must have told royal protection there was a demonstration of this sort and intelligence should have co-ordinated a better system,' he said.

'I'm sure my successor is looking very carefully at what went wrong and indeed how it must never happen again. It was an atrocious attack on their two Royal Highnesses and I'm appalled, frankly.'

Security analyst and former police officer Charles Shoebridge said: 'One can visualise a situation where police felt they had no alternative but to open fire. It wasn't potentially dangerous. It was dangerous.

'The police will need to look at this in great detail. They need a rapid and robust investigation to identify how it could have happened.'

He added: 'This is a very serious incident. It ranks amongst the most serious security breaches of the past decade.

'Some of the demonstrators yesterday were carrying petrol, specifically to use in arson attacks. If the can of paint had been a can of petrol, it would have been very different.'

The former intelligence officer condemned how Charles and Camilla were allowed to 'blunder' into the demonstration and questioned whether Scotland Yard had the right people in charge.

Today, the Prince and his wife hailed the efforts of police and expressed their gratitude but Clarence House refused to be drawn on the security lapse.

A spokesman said: 'Their Royal Highnesses totally understand the difficulties which the police face and are always very grateful to the police for the job they do in often very challenging circumstances.'

The Royal vehicle was ambushed by a 'steaming gang' of masked protesters, who attacked the car with their firsts, boots and bottles.

Photographer Matt Dunham, who captured Camilla looking aghast, said: 'It [the car] was unable to move because it was surrounded. It was stuck in a gridlock.

'There were people kicking it and screaming. So I raced towards it and then saw it was Camilla and Charles. Charles seemed to be waving calmly at first, trying to be amicable, but then he looked worried. Camilla was visibly agitated.'

One witness said Charles kept calm, gently pushing his wife towards the floor to get her out of the line of fire.

'Charles got her on the floor and put his hands on her,' said Adnan Nazir, a 23-year-old podiatrist who was following the protesters.

Charles and Camilla's Rolls Royce Phantom VI with a smashed window parked outside the London Palladium

A yob's handprint seen on the passenger side window of the Royal's Rolls Royce

David Cameron, who described the attack as 'shocking and regrettable', insisted lessons had to be learned and those responsible held to account.

'It's no good to say this was a very small minority. It wasn't,' he said. 'There were quite a number of people who clearly were there wanting to pursue violence and destroy property.

'I know that the Metropolitan Police Commissioner is going to be working hard to report on this. I also know quite rightly he will look into the very regrettable incident where the Prince of Wales and his wife were nearly attacked by this mob.'

The Prime Minister spoke to the Met Chief and Prince Charles' private secretary last night but he stressed the police were not to blame. 'It was the fault of the people who tried to smash up that car,' he said.

London mayor Boris Johnson hailed Charles and Camilla's 'great fortitude of spirit' and called for an end to the violent tuition fee protests.

He said: 'Clearly, it is very regrettable that in the heart of London, the heir to the throne can be surrounded by agitators and his wife can be put in a position where she's plainly alarmed.' Charles and Camilla's journey began when they left Clarence House at approximately 7.15pm.

The couple's ordeal began as their limousine, escorted by three police outriders and an unmarked police car, turned into Regent Street from Piccadilly Circus.

At first they were seen talking happily and waving at passers-by. But then suddenly the crowd began to close in around them, swelled by student fee protesters who had run to the scene from the riot outside Parliament.

Bags of rubbish, traffic cones, bottles and plastic barriers from roadworks started to rain down on the Rolls-Royce, which was stopped in its tracks when a large bin was thrown in front of it.

Rioters, wearing balaclavas and scarves over their faces, surrounded the car, banging on the windows – one of which was open – and shouting ‘Tory scum’ and ‘off with your heads’. A lone policewoman tried desperately to clear the mob.

Camilla could be heard screaming as she gripped Charles’s hand. Terrified for her safety, she then dived on to the floor of the car. One witness said Charles pushed her down in an attempt to protect her.

The Prince, however, defiantly remained sitting in his seat and continued to wave at the crowd.

British riot come under attack from flares as they clash with protestors during student demonstrations in Parliament Square

More police appeared and cleared the mob, allowing the car to continue its journey along Regent Street.

But shortly after it drove past Hamley’s toy shop, it was hit with a can of white paint that smashed a passenger window.

Following protection officers were said to have used the doors of their car to push protesters out of the way as the convoy continued through the melee.

Observers said as few as half of the yesterday's crowd of protesters were students, with a rent-a-mob of anarchists and other thugs taking control.

The clashes left 12 police officers and 43 protesters injured, and 34 people were arrested.

In the Commons, the Coalition was plunged into crisis as MPs voted to approve a rise in the university tuition fees cap from £3,290 a year to £9,000.

Three ministerial aides – two Lib Dems and one Tory – resigned as the Government’s majority of 83 was slashed to just 21, a quarter of its normal size.

In a blow to Nick Clegg’s authority, 21 Liberal Democrats including former leaders Menzies Campbell and Charles Kennedy voted against the Government.

Another eight Lib Dems abstained rather than back the plans, meaning the Deputy Prime Minister failed to get even half his 57 MPs to vote with the Government.

Mr Cameron’s authority was also undermined as eight Tories defied personal pleas to get in line.

Senior Government officials saw the rebellion either side of the walls of the Palace of Westminster as a grim portent of further protests to come at the Coalition’s cuts.

One senior figure said the Government will have to accept that up to 20 Liberal Democrats are now ‘virtually part of the opposition’ and will begin to align themselves with Labour rather than the weakened Mr Clegg.

Mr Clegg, who promised not to raise fees during the General Election campaign, denied he should feel ashamed for voting in favour of the policy.

‘I would feel ashamed if I didn’t deal with the way that the world is, not simply dream of the way the world I would like it to be,’ the Deputy Prime Minister said.

But Liberal Democrat MPs openly defied their leader. Greg Mulholland, who voted against the fees rise, accused him of ‘failing to listen’.

He said: ‘Sometimes governments are wrong and sometimes you have to have the courage to stand up and say so, that’s what I’m doing today.’

Tory backbenchers formed an unlikely alliance with Labour MPs to fire awkward questions at Lib Dem Business Secretary Vince Cable as he presented the plans to the Commons.

Flanked by Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg and David Cameron, Mr Cable was met with jeers as he argued that the new system of fees, repaid once graduates start earning £21,000, was ‘more progressive and more related to the ability to pay of graduates’.

During the heated five-hour debate, shadow business secretary John Denham said: ‘Most graduates will be asked not to pay something towards their university education, but to pay the entire cost of their university education.’

A 20-year-old student was left unconscious with bleeding on the brain after a police officer hit him on the head with a truncheon, his mother has claimed.

Alfie Meadows, a philosophy student at Middlesex University, was allegedly struck as he tried to leave the area outside Westminster Abbey during last night's tuition fee protests.

After falling unconscious on the way to Chelsea and Westminster Hospital, he had a three-hour operation for bleeding on the brain.

Susan Meadows, 55, an English literature lecturer at Roehampton University, said: 'He was hit on the head by a police truncheon. He said it was the hugest blow he ever felt in his life.

'The surface wound wasn't very big but three hours after the blow, he suffered bleeding to the brain. He survived the operation and he's in the recovery room.'

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Thanks for posting krome! Got the email myself this morning.

I have been following NIA for awhile now and have found their economic predictions to be pretty much right on the money.

I would love to see the "Occupy Wall Street" crowds pack up, clean up their trash, and move to their closest Federal Reserve building. Now that would be a proper application of direction of anger.

Thank you Wally.

If you remember, your the one that got me looking into NIA.

[tyron]

You know Krome - McJockcy is right. I saw the videos and really the main-stream reports are a GROSS exaggeration. These poor students were demonstrating because their fees had suddenly gone from £3000.00 to £9000.00 per year and lo and behold they see this Rolls Royce carrying a fantastically over-privileged couple (who live off the tax payer) make a totally unnecessary trip through their troubled area to get to the opera!! Bats and bottles withstanding the couple came to no harm. The best the police and media could come up with was the couple were 'shaken'. And that is far more than the students suffered at the hands of the police.

[1929harleydavidson]

PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT NIA STANDS FOR??? NO ONE LEFT BEHIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WallyWeaver]

PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT NIA STANDS FOR??? NO ONE LEFT BEHIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

National Inflation Association.

Preparing Americans for Hyperinflation

Link: http://inflation.us/

[krome2ez]

You know Krome - McJockcy is right. I saw the videos and really the main-stream reports are a GROSS exaggeration. These poor students were demonstrating because their fees had suddenly gone from £3000.00 to £9000.00 per year and lo and behold they see this Rolls Royce carrying a fantastically over-privileged couple (who live off the tax payer) make a totally unnecessary trip through their troubled area to get to the opera!! Bats and bottles withstanding the couple came to no harm. The best the police and media could come up with was the couple were 'shaken'. And that is far more than the students suffered at the hands of the police.

So, your supporting violent riots, to include death threats and injuring police, because college tuition was raised?

Friggen whaa!

The price of every thing is going up, and there are far more items of immediate importance than going to college.

My parents could not afford to send me, and I was the only one who finished high school.

Instead, I had to attend night classes while in the service, for what college that I could afford.

No, instead I made do by working for every thing I have. Wow, what a concept.

[tyron]

So, your supporting violent riots, to include death threats and injuring police, because college tuition was raised?

Friggen whaa!

The price of every thing is going up, and there are far more items of immediate importance than going to college.

My parents could not afford to send me, and I was the only one who finished high school.

Instead, I had to attend night classes while in the service, for what college that I could afford.

No, instead I made do by working for every thing I have. Wow, what a concept.

Kudos to you Krome. That is truly an achievement to be proud of. Nevertheless, I believe that education should not be just the preserve of the wealthy, but should be free for ALL youngsters. They are the future of mankind. Prices going up have nothing to do with this duty of ours to educate our children to a higher standard than that we achieved ourselves. Otherwise what future for mankind? But what we are seeing in the world today is a slipback for most of humanity and the elite are happy for this trend to continue. More for them less for everyone else.

And no, I do not condone violence. Have you heard of agent provocateurs? These students begin peacefully enough, then a plant throws a rock/bottle at the police, the riot police begin beating back the demonstrators. All hell breaks loose. In Quebec these 'trouble makers' were caught on camera wearing the exact same boots as the arresting police officers.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/12/agents-provocateurs-london-student-demo.html

In this clip you will see masked trouble makers being protected by the big men with guns.

Likewise here is a rather well-known angry environmentalist who turned out to be not so much an activist as a good cop.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jan/10/mark-kennedy-undercover-cop-activist

[mcjocky1]

Krome, might I try to get you to look at it this way. You use these reports that you listed to rebut my thoughts on these "riot" newspaper reports, but might I get you to think on this. Sir Paul Stephenson- resigned Phone Hacking Scandal. Maxwell influence on the reports you use? Anti Royalist journalist, filed one of these which you use,and then the number of injuries which you site were for the whole disturbance not exclusive to the "royal" incident. I do not know how much faith you put in the news distributed to you by Fox News but this is also part of the Maxwell empire which in turn is also allied to Sky TV in the UK which has just been refused permission by HM Gov. to expand his influence further by his monopoly of such news channels in the UK media. Under no circumstances do I contribute to any conspiracy theories but I have learned over the years to use my own brain to disect information and form my own conclusions and use such information to put forward alternative views and hopefully prompt further discussion and exchange ideas and thoughts with other likeminded people and not get blinkered on any subject. I respect your opinions but maintain my right to (respectfully) challenge and maybe deflect your thoughts into areas that you may not go within your own train of thought/opinion. Continue researching this and you will find court reports on the wealth and social standing of some of these "students" beggars belief on why they should require to even claim student loans whether at £3000.00 or £9000.00. I do not condone or agree with riots or violence towards police even allowing for the exuberance of youth involved. I look forward to future exchanges of views even if "full and frank" as the media puts it. Best regards Dave.

[mcjocky1]

Re above, replace Maxwell with Murdoch as this will not allow me to edit for some reason. Replying to 2 threads about similar subjects obviously is outwith my mental ability. Why do I not have permission to edit something other than deleting and re-doing, weird.