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Was This John Jagerson character in US ARMY nope his name is not on report,So his stuff is clueless
Whaaaa...???
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Blah Blah Blah,Mindless BS LOPster yap
Yippieee... let me quote the German RV again... everyone here ignores me...
For anyone interested and not completely disillusioned to the point of being incapable of deciphering new and factual information, you should go check out the new interview with John Jagerson respecting the IQD. Although I am sure the majority will dismiss him as another "government shill"... wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
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Worlds Strongest Currency
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Still can't believe people are buying into this crap. You'll have better odds winning the powerball
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Exactly my thoughts buddy
Ive seen people lose more money on a football game or a horse than i have in this, but they were already millionaires lol
Anyway what else are we supposed to do ....... save it all away only to be hit by a bus one day crossing the street before we get a chance to enjoy it.
Life is happening now, if we live our lives always planning to live ( i mean really live) dome time in the future it will never happen.
Money comes and goes ....... spend it while you have it i say
Machine: If I may say so, you state a rather facile response. "What else are [you] supposed to do..."? If I may make a suggestion, take your savings and/or the proceeds from selling your Dinars and invest it in a reputable mutual fund portfolio! Mix in some strong equities and hedge yourself against systemic downturns as best as you can. THIS is the way to wealth! Steady as she goes... Little by little, you will build real wealth. I have followed this rather un-sexy investment method for years and have enjoyed an average annual pre-tax return of 7.85%. Not bad once you build your position to a few 100k.
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Again, I say that I am honestly looking for real adult answers to the most significant piece of information every dinarian should own. When I get cat-calls from the gallery, it just reenforces my feeling that there are no answers, and therefore dinarians resort to taunts and insults. Why is this so difficult to get answers to. Either you have a secret money exchanger waiting in the wings and you don't want the rest of the world to know, OR you don't really know what to do if it RV's. Please don't rely on any guru to tell you what to do. They all lie to make money. Sound off dinarians. Let's have an adult conversation.
We should also address the rather giant oddity of all RV'ers being invested in only physical currency. I realize that opening a bank account in Iraq is not an easy venture, however, why would none of you do the following: Pack your bags, fly over to Iraq, and find a reputable firm in the financial sector. Sign an enforceable agreement that enables you to open an ELECTRONIC position (also giving you full control and ownership over said account) and simply deposit your Dinar holdings into such an account. Once it RV's, you could then easily do the exchange electronically while intelligently skipping the impossible steps of physical currency exchange.
Furthermore, I would like to present another scenario to you RV'ers: For the sake of this example, let's imagine one of the many wealthy, multi-national corporations based out of Iraq. Let's go one step further and pretend that such a company, which many actually exist in Iraq, has a cash position on their balance sheet of 100 million Dinars. In your scenario, once the RV occurs, this company will all of a sudden be enriched by 10,000%... does this sound reasonable to ANYONE out there? Anyone????
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First I owe you an apology, I read your statement wrong concerning your math. I became steamed when someone that doesn't know me calls me delusional !!! When I purchased my dinar I was fully aware that it was a speculative investment , I knew going in that this was something that could or could not happen. I went in on the gamble.... I answered your question respectfully, wanting you to know that not everyone bought into this thinking they would make a million dollars on a million dinars... You by past that point and went straight to name calling. I believe it was to worker bee you made the comment that you just want to be educated .... I call that out as BS I see you as someone that feels he knows more than anyone else as to what is going on... You do not... You have your opinion and that's all !!! Is Turki whispering something in your ear ?? I think not.
Please stop commenting under the guise of helping others, when you are actually just feeding your own ego .
Hi Shelley. I appreciate your response. Says a lot about a person's character that is able to apologize. As far as my having used disparaging words on some previous posts, I am the one who is sorry. Sometimes, during a heated discussion, I do not realize how crude and stinging some words can be. I was simply attempting to illustrate the absurdity of the numbers using some well-intentioned and simple financial arithmetic (I assure you, my maths are correct). Again, during an argument, it is quite normal to become a little bit dislodged; for this, I apologize.
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You didn't understand jack Shiite correctly !!!
# 1. When I purchased it was $700.00 per million
# 2. I purchased enough to make me very happy if it opened up at 10 cents .
# 3. Your math is terrible.. Your trying to tell me on $100,000 transaction fees and spread will be $90,000
You better take a look in the mirror and have a talk with yourself .... When I look in the mirror I like what I see very much and that's my reality !!!!
Caz , he missed my whole point.. My original comment was to let him know not everyone like he thinks bought into this thinking they would make a million dollars on a million dinar.... He didn't get it !!!
He wanted people's truths.... He couldn't handle the truth ( said in Jack Nicholson fashion )
Ummm.. can some other members chime in respecting my above illustration. My math seems solid. I have no clue what you are referring to in point #3. In response to you having purchased at US$700.00 per million Dinars, I can only state that this would make your ROI even more delusional.
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A lop is not going to happen.The powers that be will not allow..
Oh sweet holy spaghetti monster (my very personal and imaginary deity; so, you cannot make fun for my believing in it!)! The RV, much like "The Lord of the Rings", is a mythical feel-good story.
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Ah ha ha ha
From the genius who read the article multiple times you know they said it was submitted by the cbi in the past but was denied
And that there is no such plan in parliment
Its a false rumor about deleting zeros
She's the only one proven right all those cbi bs story's are all historically proven false just like she says
There has been no deletion of zeros
You know what that article said
He's obviously laughing and posting with glee
He sure doesn't seem bitter at all
You make light of what I said? In all honesty, don't you ever question the possible windfall from millions of people having their multi-year dreams explode in their faces? Shame on you.
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I find it odd that LOPsters now question others on why they invested-LOL.................priceless. The same ones that either have sold out or "wink" "wink" never were vested(LOL!!!!!!!) , but just come here to protect others..................LOL,priceless!!!! LOPsters the gift that keeps on a giving
In all seriousness caz1104, I truly cannot understand your bitterness to our posting! I have some factual information for you regarding this entire Dinar situation: Many, many good-intentioned, yet extremely credulous individuals have been financially harmed by this investment. Secondly, I truly am concerned (believe what you may, but this is the god-honest truth) about the millions of Dinar investors and their reactions and abilities to deal with the eventual LOP. Will there be depressed people? Will there be suicides? Do you never think about that...?
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To tell you the truth, when it started buying into this investment back in the beginning of 2004 , I bought with the goal in mind of making 10 cents per dinar and was very happy with that prospect... You wanted some truth , I gave you mine !!!!
Ok. So, if I understand your scenario correctly, you expected to do the following:
1) Buy, for the sake of this example, one million Dinar for roughly US$900.00;
2) Then, you expect to make US$0.10 per Dinar - This would be equivalent to US$100,000.00, excluding any transaction costs;
3) So, in summary, you expected to have an overall ROI of roughly 11,011% (US$99,100.00 net gain from an original principal investment amount of US$900.00).
If the above scenario is based on correctly interpreting your statement, do you not ever take a good, hard look in the mirror and question your sense of reality?
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Sounds like a lot of people are starting to get cold feet respecting this entire thing.
I am still amazed how some members continue to claim a "gain" or "profit" on their investments. This is not possible. By the time you incorporate the purchase and sales fees of your holdings, you are most definitely in the negative. In order to appropriately state that one has enjoyed an investment gain, you have to actually realize that gain by disposing of your investment. I can guarantee that no person holding Dinars has made any realizable money to date. Of course, the only people cashing in are the idiotic gurus and the dealers - all on the backs of you so-called investors.
Anyways... "it's just money".... what sort of contrived and foolish statement is that?
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So, caz, what say you? Do you think the IMF is lying to the press, but spilling their guts to anonymous Internet gurus?
This. Conspiracy nuts...
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I am glad that so many guests and other members are reading this! Should awaken a few more sheep.
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And @dontlop, I honestly have stopped reading your posts. The gibberish you have been posting and the rather odd choice of formatting give me a giant headache. I would wager that I am not the only one thinking the same.
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Adwrd, can u try to be more insulting pls, I've seen better. Also I believe there are several country's officials you need to talk to.
The ones in the nice white coats with the long sleeves.
I cannot comprehend individuals such as yourself. How you are able to to use someone's factual name to come on a forum and troll, on a daily basis, yet shrug off your intentions as "noble" and "truths". It's truly bizarre how such an internet troll can offer no solutions to the problems they see, other than making more problems, with so much money available. It's not laughable. It's sad, that your allowed to still post on here. It's tantamount to standing in an ocean and stating there's no water.
Here is the solution: SELL YOUR DINARS AND RUN! I have stated this numerous times... You are simply not hearing it.
Amazing how the IMF tells the news station there is no such thing as a GCR, but tells Tony "Jesus" Renfrow, a convicted criminal, every day that they are trying to "push it through."
The best part of all of this coverage is the attention it is getting from Attorney General's from the various states. Perhaps they will intensify investigations of all of these Dinar Gurus and Dinar dealers. Seems like even TNT Tony is getting a little shy about talking about the Dinar. lol
Very true! Myself and a few other people well-versed in social marketing are starting a campaign of contacting big news agencies such as CNN, FOX, ABCNEWS, SKYNEWS, etc. Trust me people, this entire thing is on its last legs. Once the bigger news agencies pick up on this story and do their own objective investigative reports, it will be all over. Only thing left to do at that point is to create an eBay account and sell your worthless paper. BTW, I highly suggest that anyone reading this take a look at the statistics respecting eBay Dinar auctions over the previous few years. They are virtually exploding with people desperately trying to sell their holdings after having finally woken up...
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LOL it was a nice read till I saw "Fib"....................lost all credibility for me. Still an opinion piece and should be presented as such.
Really nothing new was put forth just a rehash of statements & articles that have been around for awhile.
You obviously are being facetious with your comment. Opinion piece? Did you not watch the video which included the input of numerous specialists and quoted statements by several officials of banks, governments, and other institutions?
I cannot for the life of me comprehend individuals such as yourself. How are you able to have factual and objective evidence literally smack you in the face on a daily basis, yet shrug it off as 'opinions' and 'untruths'? It truly is bizarre just how much a human being can be brainwashed with the promise of wealth for doing absolutely no work in return. At this point, it is becoming quite laughable. It is tantamount to stating that the Earth is flat...
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http://whnt.com/2014/05/09/iraqi-dinar-investment-fact-or-fiction/
Hmmm... seems like the world is starting to catch on. Are any of you going to wake up?
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Semantics.....................If your going to make claims(RD/LOP) that makes you no different than a Guru/Pumper. Its actually that simple. I hear the RD/LOP Grape taste great-lol
I know of very few that enjoy Debbie Downer types of conversation about their investments, but hey its evident LOPsters do. What ever turns you on. Once I invest I don't go looking for negatives (crazy huh), the time to do that is BEFORE!!!! Thus the recommendation that you "Savoirs of the Dinar World" start your own site to educate folks BEFORE they invest(crazy huh). But of course that's not your agenda cause that's to simple of an answer/solution......................priceless
You're a sick puppy Caz. One of the sickest on this site. I will make you my pet project.
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I have thought about reducing my exposure several times. My girlfriend has 10M dinars and is also thinking about selling some back. Sterling Bank (Dinar Banker) will buy them back for $820p/M. I am undecided about this. I know this could end badly but I also feel there is a chance to make some money here. I know you dont think so. As knowledgeable as you are with economics and currency, you still haven't convinced me that some type of currency revaluation isn't possible. No offense.
I truly hope you decide to reduce your exposure! I still cringe after reading about the sum you have invested in this... Did you do objective and impartial research on this thing (I hate to call it an investment)? I beg you to read other sites and really sit down and analyse the economic and financial data of the absurdity of a mythical RV. Please don't misconstrue my comment as disrespectful; you must be a very intelligent man to have made money in the stock market. However, if you fell into this mess due to friends, relatives, and/or guru BS, then I beg you to really get over the hump and realize this is all BS.
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AdwRd no one knows what is going to happen. Article 36 says nothing about exchanges. Basing previous RD's is a waste of time, as Iraq's situation is different. You say "once the LOP occurs"... How do you know this?? IMO, if they do LOP they will simultaneously raise the rate. IMO, the best I can do is maybe double or triple my investment anyway, but thats OK with me. If I lose the ~$30K I have invested in this, then its on me. I made the choice to invest, speculate that is. Obviously you are sure this will LOP only. I disagree.
I am truly shocked after reading the amount you have invested in this. You must be a very wealthy individual to have the ability to invest this kind of sum in an investment that will simply provide no return. Furthermore, there is an extremely high chance that you will lose 100% of your money. Please take my advice and head to your local investment advisor at your bank. Inform him or her about your holdings in the Dinar and please listen to his or her suggestion! Again, I must qualify this comment by stating that I do not know your financial situation. If you have liquid millions of US dollars in your bank account, then 30k is a drop in the bucket. However, if this even represents 5% of your overall net worth, I must question your sanity.
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The ongoing battle in the arena of RVers and LOPsters comes down to ONE thing... Faith.
Regardless of any speculations, interpretations, facts, or "facts" (reasoned interpretation... so must be true)... there is only one winner in this battle.... Faith.
You cannot defeat Faith... regardless of what that faith is in.
The paramount reason for DinarVets existence is Faith... "doubters" are amusingly tolerated!
RVers win this battle, hands down... period. The participation in the "debate" of this is mind-boggling. There is no debate... because you can't debate Faith.
So... say the RV never happens... so what! So we lost some money! I say... money well "spent" on a fun journey. And as of right now... my money's still "buying" me some fun!
Faith is fun. People who have faith, in anything... are generally fun. And... that's their "right" You can't take that away!
Don't bother disputing my perspective... I'm enjoying my Faith in this matter... the same as I might as a fan who spent money on season tickets for a bad team! I still want to see them try to win!
You LOPsters have excellent reasoning and common sense skills, no doubt! But WAY TOO MUCH free time! You must be "fun" at parties! Hahahahaha!
Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is the virus of 'non-thinking'.
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Boo!
Nope, thought about it, not scared at all. The CBI won't cut off its nose to screw people outside of the country, which includes the IMF, World Bank, Paris Treaty, etc....-
WHNT News - World is starting to learn...
in LOPster tank
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@dinar_millions: May I ask you some questions? Just for the sake of painting a mental picture... How old are you (even a range will suffice)? What level of education have you achieved? In which geographic region do you currently live (If in the US, please provide me a general area... I assume your response will be 'midwest')? Are you from Germany (I only ask due to your strange obsession)?
Random off-topic question: What are the rules in the lopster tank respecting the posting of links to other dinar-related websites? What are the rules about mentioning the names of such websites? I am trying to create a new discussion and want to respect the rules.