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This is not the HCL. When the Hydrocarbon Law is passed it'll be major news on all outlets in the mainstream media. As others have said all this refers to is the Oil Agreement as being written into law with the passing of this years budget. The HCL represents something that once passed won't need to be discussed on an annual basis which at present is all they have now. An agreement of 17%, for the year 2015, nothing more nothing less, and not an HCL.
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Obviously no one has a Crystal ball Yota... But in general theory (using the term loosely) , does the HCL actually have to be "completed" prior to an exciting RV? Or just the HC Agreement generally written in the Gazette... Along with the Budget, etc, etc..
Permission to take a stab at this one? Thanks!
The HCL, 140, Amnesty, Law of Accountability & Justice, Federal Court Act, or any of the other hot button laws you want to mention, I don't believe any of them are required to RV per se. What they are required for is stability. Prior to taking office Abadi agreed to a 21 line item list of demands presented by the Kurds and the Sunni. Many of the aforementioned items are found in said agreements plus more. None of that other stuff is required to RV either but the threat of a walkout will always be present less said agreements are written into law.
The guy with his finger on the big red RV button isn't going to even think about pressing it until these issues are solved because a post RV economy relies on a government that functions and a functioning government relies on unification. Unification relies on all factions being represented and included in the government. It is that which our RV relies upon not the passing of an HCL.
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What they are doing is moving the functionallity of the sale of foreign currency from the auction point to inside the bank. Sale of foreign currency meaning large sums of USD to smaller banks and money changsrs. This makes the tracking of who has what and where its going much easier because, under the auction system, it was like the wild wild west out there...
Wild, wild, East actually.
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This is great. Hopefully it'll slide through parliament rather quickly. I'm of the opinion this is on par with the other big laws we're all waiting on. Thanks Yota.
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There has been no such thing as smoke in the 7 years I've been following this.
Deleting the zeros, like others have said, involves the removal of the large bills from the streets of Iraq and abroad then taking those notes out of circulation and retiring them. Somewhere within that process lower denominated notes would be released and the rate of exchange would be increased. Can't do any of that tomorrow though because they need an economy to support the rate increase so the currency doesn't tank as a result. Thus, we wait...
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I would wager they did this, or are doing this, because of the recent actions taken by the CBI to guarantee the dinar both at home and abroad. The idea being if the citizens have confidence in the banks, via these new guarantees, they'll bring their dinar into the banks and make deposits. The banks will then, in turn, loan this money out to citizens for things like cars, houses, small businesses, etc...thus stimulating the economy and thus bringing us one step closer to our goal. If people start bringing it in [their dinar] the bank employees are going to need to know how to count, sort, verify the dinar coming in and be up to speed on what to do with dirty / tattered notes, and counterfeit dinar should they happen to get some in. Hence the meeting with CBI / bank reps resulting in this press release.
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My favorite part of the article right here...
"He Ghadhban, that "the strategy will include the diversification of sources of income and stimulate investment and build an attractive investment climate for investors and the private sector, and the simplification of procedures and away the state gradually for care of the projects," asserting that "these fundamental factors will work to achieve and is also present within the government program where a lot of service sectors will be transferred to the private sector."
While I don't think this spells RV in Feburary I think its very clear that this administration intends to get the economy up and going in a way the previous one never did. All that makes for great news for those of us holding currency
Oops...
Meant to copy paste this quote as my favorite from the article not what I put in my previous post. Couldn't just edit it here on my phone, lol.
"He Ghadhban, that "the economic pressures on the resources of the state and the general budget will be a great catalyst for the implementation of the economic and legal reform programs that we have worked on for nearly the past six years."
Yup that's it.
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Thanks Markinsa!
+1 to you.
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Is there a DV link to that Feb 12 article anywhere? I skimmed the news section here and couldn't find any discussion on it. Maybe I'm blind.
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In addition to the previous post the dinar being now international is a bit of a misnomer as the dinar has been international now for a while at .1166 just very thinly traded. If it's recognized at the BIS it can be recognized anywhere else a vendor is willing to take it.
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It gets tiring when you come on here and first thing you read is your negative posts...everyone has an opinion just wondering why you still hang around and spew the same ol all the time if you sold your dinars....
I think it's better to be realistic than overtly optimistic. I'm all for the RV ASAP but the fact is, dontlop is right, Iraq needs to diversify. Every time Iraq goes in for their annual consult with the IMF one of the primary things they recommend, because that's all they (IMF) can do, is diversification. Look at Abadi in Davos last week. What was his message? Market economy, diversification, forward movement. They're not going to do this on oil alone, quite frankly, because they can't.
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You know what? I love Adam and all he has done, but I'm really tired of all the resent false hope. I mean budgets have been passed many time before, and never was the HCL, or RV considered during those hopeful days, so why should it be any different now? I sat here and read about everything being said. How everyone tries to decipher what is meant by the screwy English translation. Do they REALLY talk this way?
I am of the mind that you can't believe everything in print. Do you believe everything in a newspaper is true? It's all written by someone who has an opinion, or however they get news.
When DV people post things here on the website, they should have a link to verify. You click on the link and it takes you to another DV page! Not saying this stuff isn't bonefied, but I would believe it more if the link took me to a site other than DV. I try to take what I read here on DV and verify it on other sites like IraqbusinessNews.com If They don't mention anything about it, then I tend to be wary IMHO. Thanks for letting me vent. I've been in this a long time now and I REALLY just want it to finalize, and FYI the last time I looked the value of the Dinar was 1185/1$ Not the direction I want to see it going after all this past hype. I want to see the Iraqi people match the Kuwaiti Dinar, and this is what gives me hope. I figure the Iraqi people are proud folk who wouldn't want to be up-staged by the very people they once invaded...who are just across a border line. The Kuwaiti people must think Iraq is a joke with their 1185 worthless money! To me this makes more logical sense than any of this other BS.
You do realize that iraqbusinessnews is about as far away from Iraq as Texas is. Maybe that's because that's where the website originates from.
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The Little Engine That Could?
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Better than prime time TV this is. The suspense is killing. Big thanks to Yota et al for bringing the morning entertainment. Here's hoping the other 75% will be done and voted on next time I look at this screen.
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For the love of all that's good somebody please close this thread.
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I really should have stayed out of this...
LGD,
I guess, as related to the primary topic at hand, the primary difference between you and I is I'm not living in fear, or under the assumption, that a Muslim is going to one day try and kill me. Nor am I under the assumption that they all want to. Sure, a small amount do, but those people are terrorists. People who use the name of their god in order to create chaos and destruction.
As for the secondary topic of defining evil...
I define evil as anything I do that seperates me from God. Call it sin if you will. I make no distinction between the two. Being as there is plenty I do on the daily, both consciously and unconsciously, that separates me from Him I should probably figure out ways of dealing with, and working on that, before I even think about setting up shop in front of a clinic. First order of business should always be for me to remove the plank and on that end I've a ways to go.
As related to loving others...
My God loves me in my bad. In fact I believe that to be the very essence of spiritual experience. Being at your lowest point and realizing that in that God loves you anyway. No matter what point in life we find ourselves, due to the events in The Garden, we can't get any lower than we already are. Based upon that I've been extended a whole mess of grace throughout my time here on earth and based in that its my turn to extend that to someone else no matter what line in which they find themselves standing.
Try walking a mile in someone else's shoes before deciding what punishment they are do. That's not my job nor is it yours and I, for one, am glad it doesn't have to be.
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Matthew 7:21-23
So I ask you, what is,"the will of the Father"/
That we tolerate evil? Or would Christ want us to expel this evil from our midst.
I think the will of the father is that you love the lord your God above anything else and beyond that love thy neighbor as thyself. That includes not only the guy next door but the guy across the pond. Let's not forget Jesus spent a fair amount of time turning the other cheak, especially when on the cross, shortlo after commanding us to love our enemies.
Evil is best expelled in love not via threads on the internet condemning a nation of people as satanists.
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RFJ They are already rewriting the U.S. Constitution and everyday slowing eroding the Bill of Rights, do you not see that ?
I'm curious to know how so? One example or two is fine.
LGD: There's really going to be no talking to you on this matter so I'm down to just agree to disagree and move on. Nobody wins in an internet debate. Not sure why I jumped in on this one actually.
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Nah man I wouldn't neg anyone for their opinion. Your opinion, albeit different than mine, is yours none the less and you're certainly entitled to it. I'm not here to debate the religion of our sitting president. But for talking purposes let's just say one day we did have an openly Muslim president what would be the so "pitiful" about that? I mean I suppose we could rewrite the Constitution and get that whole bit about religious freedom out of there, but being as we were founded upon that I figure that'd probably be a bad idea, no?
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I'm not leftist I'm moderate
I just think stuff like what's going on in this discussion breeds hate and don't really see any point in it. That's all.
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What does this have to do with anything? He's right ya know...Terrorists are no the more Muslim than Klansman are Christian. This thread should be closed.
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Sounds like their intention here is to assist private banks in providing loans / small business loans to create jobs / bolster the economy.
That said, I'm no expert.
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Why is everyone So dang excited?
The rate in the draft budget was 1166, nothing has changed and nothing will unless they drastically reduce their m0, m1 and introduce lower denoms of the same currency like overnight and place a static value of $1 per dinar and put it on a managed or free float.
The passing of the 2015 budget does not mean an RV. Ask Adam.
Budgets aren't based or calculated by rate of international exchange so, no, .1166 was not the rate in the budget. Budgets are based on percentages and allocations which, for Iraq, are by and large based upon the price per barrel of oil.
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So I heard it's going to come out at $0.04 anyone else hear that? Lol
Yeah but if you dial the right number quick enough, use the proper terminology, and sign an NDA they'll pay you 28:1 on that .04 rate, lol.
Iraq calls for a review of the dinar exchange rate
in Iraq & Dinar Related News
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They're talking about the street rate which, since the closing of the auctions, has been running around .1340 +/- a few. They are not talking about the international rate of exchange here at all.
Also the IMF, World Bank, UN, etc. have little to do with when Iraq will or won't RV and how much they will RV to. Balls in Iraq's court, nowhere else.