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Ok...I can understand a Democrat trying to mitigate the impact of
fraud, since its their organisations (Acorn) that continue to cheat. If by
suiting a particular policy agenda they mean, end cheating, I would
agree with that.
With searches, sometimes you must go to page 10 to see another
viewpoint other than the Lib agenda, I typically have to go to the
bottom of the page, or to page 2 to find the info Im looking for.
That type of search is getting easier and easier....More Conservatives
are speaking out....That pushes their opinion to the top, and thats
how a search works.
Ex-ACORN worker: 'I paid the price' for voter registration fraud
JOHN MCCAIN
October 22, 2008|By Chris Lawrence CNN "American Morning"
Clifton Mitchell filled out voter cards using fake birthdays, Social Security numbers and baby-name books.
Clifton Mitchell helped register nearly 2,000 voters for the community group ACORN. But not one of them actually existed.
"I regret it. I paid the price for it," he said.
Mitchell was convicted last year and spent nearly three months in prison. He's one of the few ACORN workers convicted of voter registration fraud.
Today, he lives with his wife and two boys, ages 3 and 1, in a small apartment in suburban Seattle, Washington. Mitchell said he scammed the system because, "I needed money; I had to support my family and I was new to the area. It was the only job I had."
That was an easy one...I typed in 'Acorn prosecuted for fraud'
A lot of times....A search can be conducted by typing in the title,
'Republicans disenfranchise' and just add 'debunked' to the
end of that.
Cris, no one said it didn't exist, it's the percentage that is argued vs. alienating 20 million voters. The reports show voter fraud. Reps are not making their case; BUT the biggest number found by the Reps is how the election can be altered if mandatory photo ids were the law NOW. They're banking on 21 million or so, somehow, can't get a photo id soon enough for whatever reasons. Can we agree on that?
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Im glad that we can both agree that there will, and should be
ID for voting.
As shown, the survey, which the opposition to ID is based, from the
Brennon Center is not only innacurate, but laughably biased.
Voter fraud does indeed happen, and is easy in an area with no ID law.
The survey for that would be next to impossible to obtain, since the
perpetrators would have to confess.
Heres the funny thing...Acorn representatives have confessed to
fraud and have been prosecuted...The ones caught that is.
That Agency has been discredited, but make no mistake, those
people are still around, and still cheating.
Without ID, I could register in 20 places under different names
(found in the Phone Book) and vote in every one of those precincts.
I simply need a piece of mail (a bill) stolen from the mailbox to show
that I am that person....See how easy it is?....It happens all the time,
but will decrease with Voter ID.
Just arguing the impact of elections and why the sudden need for this type of change. Where are the numbers from the Reps to support their cases? Don't you honestly think there should be supporting documents? The only supporting information is the Democratic impact of election outcomes with voters that do not have a photo id. I wouldn't just called them voting fraud criminals.
* Fraud by individual voters is both irrational and extremely rare.
* Many vivid anecdotes of purported voter fraud have been proven false or do not demonstrate fraud.
* Voter fraud is often conflated with other forms of election misconduct.
* Raising the unsubstantiated specter of mass voter fraud suits a particular policy agenda.
* Claims of voter fraud should be carefully tested before they become the basis for action.
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This mostly effects our young people going through college. These types of jobs have flexible hours and no benefits. I would like to see these jobs available again.
Here's the catch:
Companies offshore these lower, unskilled jobs for .40 per hour instead of minimum wage, therefore saving the company thousand/millions. They argue that it helps them to stay competitive by paying their skilled workers competitive rates and benefits. They also argue that it financially strengtens their company and protects a higher number of skilled jobs from layoffs.
I don't think the government will force these rules but instead apply the proper tax codes.
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I would NOT be a liberal if you paid me 1 MILLION $$$$$$!!!
Somethings aren't meant to be Tampa.
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Stand Up For America
Voter ID Does NOT Equal Disenfranchisement
Nearly every single article I can find that lists a source links back to a survey from the
Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law. In other words, nearly
every single person citing such statistics is operating on info released from a very heavily
left leaning source. If we are going to base the claims all on one study, I thought it pertinent
to look a little closer to what the survey entailed, because they would have you believe the
survey simply asked “do you have an ID?” But that is not what they asked. Here is what they
asked in their poll of 2000 people:
1) Do you have a current, unexpired government-issued ID with your picture on it, like a
driver’s license or a military ID?
2) If yes, does this photo ID have both your current address AND your current name
(as opposed to a maiden name) on it?
3) Do you have any of the following citizenship documents
(U.S. birth certificate/U.S. passport/U.S. naturalization papers) in a place where you can
quickly find it if you had to show it tomorrow?
4) If yes, does [that document] have your current name on it (as opposed to a maiden name)?
If you answered 'no' to any of these questions, you would be counted as
a person that does not have ID.
So what does this show us? It shows us that the survey questions were written in a way that
causes a drastic inflation of the percentage of voting age Americans who do not have ID. I will
leave it up to you to decide whether this was an intentional effort to bolster liberal arguments
or whether the folks at NYU are just inept in producing valid data. Regardless of which it is,
the fact remains that the data is flawed.
And the conclusions derived from that data are even more flawed.
http://standupforamerica.wordpress.com/2012/04/09/voter-id-does-not-equal-disenfranchisement/
(There's the catch) If the only data is from Brennan Center then what are the true reasons for the Reps to push for photo id? Wouldn't there be more influential information from politicians supporting the push? There should be data flowing from the right wing like Michelle Malkin, http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/299423/voter-fraud-facts-and-fiction-michelle-malkin.
She only speaks about e-voting, software and machines.
This is a disenfranchise movement, albeit temporary but timing is everything. I think eventually all states can and should move to photo ids with adequate time to educate and provide for the less fortunate.
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Yeah, I dont believe those stats any more than I believe left leaning polls.
If these people can figure out how to get registered to vote & figure out
how to get to their respective voting places, they can easily get an ID for
voting.
Find the stats Cris... Any neutral stats..... Find stats on folks misrepresenting themselves. Don't be naive. Do the search please and post what you find.
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Thanks Razur for the though provoking post! The mental images I got while reading your post were very grim. The visions of the fields of dead make me feel sorry for those who have died for what they thought were the noblest of causes.
They were told by our government and media that they were needed to defend our freedoms. They innocently believed what they were told repeatedly and did not waver in their resolve. The real losers were the family members who had to live with the gaping holes in their souls due to the loss of these family members, all the while those who deceived them sat comfortably in their country clubs, sipping their drinks with their feet up, while they made obscene amounts money at the expense of their less educated and poorer country men and women who were deceived by the controlled media and politicians into taking up arms in foreign countries...so that they could profit.
These Bankers did not have the balls to do their own fighting, not when they could take advantage of the naiveté of the brainwashed population who were unwitting participants, in their plans to control the resources of other people in far away lands.Our men and women in uniform believed their politicians and media, without knowing that they were being manipulated. They bare no blame, and should not share in the guilt associated with the deaths of millions of innocents.
So cris...who would you ask me to vote for? I'll tell you who I'm voting for....He's the only one who wants to get rid of the FEDERAL RESERVE, and do away with our worthless debt based fiat currency and return us to the GOLD STANDARD, he also wants to END ALL FOREIGN WARS OF IMPERIALISM, and bring the troops home from around the world. He's the only candidate who understands the meaning of the word "INTEGRITY" he is the only candidate who has not compromised his principles for the sake of 40 silver coins. RON PAUL!
You can vote for the garbage you call a candidate...that's your choice! The choices you make in life tell what kind of a person you are!....You don't look very upstanding to me! Carlos
You may be a little harsh on Razur. He merely believe there's other things in between politics, bankers, new world order and before we meet in the cemetery. I know you don't expect to break the world powers you speak of so I'm curious what's your point. The appearance of a 2 party system is made for controversy even though there's only 1.
Your observations and studies of the New World Order and our current fiat system is noted. Most people really can't waste a lifetime considering those faint perceptions. Life, children and love will pass us by. Sometimes the truth is not what's required.
A world that Ron Paul believes in is no longer available unless we live it internal to our family and friends. We attempt to stay out of harms way (meaning the list of evil things you are aware of) and share the time we have as peacefully as possible. I'm not deaf to what you speak of - I can't help my family with those direct constant discussions, but I can help them live within the systems provided.
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I totally agree with you desimo. I work with the elderly, minorities, the poor, the ugly, students, and addicts and everyone of them has a picture ID and if they didn't have one then it would take me about one hour to get them one as long as it is during a weekday and open hours (legally of course). They can't drive, buy alcohol or cigarettes, or cash their checks, without the proper ID (the list could go on for several pages). Only an uninformed fool would say that voters are disenfranchised if they have to have an ID! As desimo so eloquently puts it "showing an ID to vote does not keep anyone from voting". It only helps stop the fraud.
Now what it is about this that some people can't understand?? Or maybe the question should be "Now, for what reason would some people make up lame excuses to not require voters show their ID?"
Why do conservative voters want to fight the fight of voter registrations for the Republican politicians who are trying to change the laws? Why are they concerned with standard state voter registration and photo IDs?
Republicans believe that requiring photo IDs could cause enough of a dropoff in legitimate Democratic voting to add 3 percent to the Republican vote. This underscores why it is so critical to get the facts straight on voter fraud.
The voter fraud phantom drives policy that disenfranchises actual legitimate voters, without cost justification.
There have been a handful of substantiated cases of individual ineligible voters attempting to defraud the election system. But by any measure, voter fraud is extraordinarily rare. In part, this is because fraud by individual voters is a singularly foolish and ineffective way to attempt to win an election. We're talking about a few hundred people (<1,000) that didn't realize they were ineligible to vote during a specific period.
The majority of voter frauds have been from erroneous machines and absentee ballots. They need to be fixed!!!
Things aren't always what they appear to be. These arguments are an distraction from the real issues.
News media of choice severely affects the publics mind and generate blogs like this one.
Who's really being dishonest here: the Dems that do not want to disenfranchise people OR the Reps who wants to disenfranchise and alienate a few million Americans with a more clear objective (21 million)?
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It depends...Almost all of the polls are overly Democrat weighted,
anywhere from 7% to 11%. So if you see a survey that shows O'blah
up by at least 11% it may be an indicator that he's ahead.
Another thing is the sample, if its too small the spread can go 5% or
more.....also, the type of voter is a huge factor. A registered voter poll
is unreliable because only half of registered people actually vote.
A survey of just Americans is wildly inaccurate, for the same reasons.
So, with all that said, if a poll shows the 2 of them anywhere close, say
within 5 points, thats a clear win for Romney.
Todays polls, which use some of those factors listed above, have Romney
up 1 point, 2 points, & in another 3 points in these swing States.
Thats a clear landslide for Romney.
All of these surveys, if you dig a little, show how they are set up, in
terms of the format used.
In the end, the only real, trustworthy polls are of likely voters, equally
weighted for Dem's, Rep's, & ind's......Those are showing an easy
Republican win.
Thanks.
Polls are only as good as the polling samplings. Do you have any idea where the 7 to 11% come from? I'm not sure of your numbers, but what jumps out to me is independents are normally around the 7% to 10% and Blacks weight in around 11%.
Large percentage of undecided voters normally go to the challenger. On the other hand, incumbents are more likely to win.
True polling is with actual voters on election day. It's the folks that dislike a candidate enough to block a win. About 73% of independents oppose Obamacare, so about 27% of independents may lean toward Obama already. He'll need another 25% during campaigning to get half.
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Good luck buddy....its a good year for those
measures to be on your ballot....Conservatives are
ready to go....I saw another poll today, Romney/Ryan are
ahead in every swing State. (which I knew) the MSM is
now finally showing the truth.
Is it still true if it swings the other direction?
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Carlos, REALLY ?? IMHO, DinarMillionaire's post is spot on.
I agree with you on a couple of things in your second paragraph; balanced budget, and maybe murder of millions (I'm speaking to abortion when I say it though, are you?).
However, please get off the 1% v 99% DUNG. Talk about divisive !?!?! The only way that thinking is any where close to relevant is when one could say that the 1% at the highest income levels want the other 99% doing very well with good jobs and high aspirations because that's when the1%ers do even better. How do you think they got to be the 1% ? The 1%ers are smart enough to NOT kill the golden goose. They want it very healthy, indeed !
How do they get to be 1%ers - move jobs offshore and create multiple Blind Trusts to protect their rights. The 1% against 99% is hardly divisive.
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I have a problem with any group prefacing American with anything. Be it African ,Latin , muslim whatever . You are either an American or return to what you put first . I am of Irish Scottish decent yet I consider myself American end of story , I mean we don't have a problem with German Americans,Swedish Americans French Americans lol no they consider themselves American . The kicker is the one group of people that would have a historic right call themselves....wait for it....AMERICAN INDIANS!!!!
I think the lawmakers will have to change the applications to just "American". What choice does other races have? If they omit their race from the apps it could cause other issues. Someone could easily be labeled a trouble maker.
Apps have changed over the last 40 years but this won't be abolished too soon.
No selection on apps for German Americans,Swedish Americans, French Americans, etc...
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/06/14/us/ADMISSIONS-3.html
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Pretty contradictory, Simple. "As long as its not racially motivated I'm okay," ???????
The whole intent of the video is to entice the vote of a RACIAL group. He's not seeking the endorsement of a club or organization. He's speaking to a particular race of people asking them, putting pressure on them to vote for him. And to make it even ironic, he has chosen to be african american. Hmmm..................
I don't view African Americans as a RACIAL group. They have came a long way in a short time.
And I don't think he had a choice of being African American. Race is decided by genetics and law.
This should clarify peoples view of this video;
"1,836 likes, 25,855 dislikes"
Agree.
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I'm surprised you guys are recirculating this footage. Has anything changed with the president? As a causation, his meaning doesn't bother me. He is campaigning to sometimes all groups at once and sometime individual groups. Like going to a church or any institution of a primary race. As long as its not racially motivated I'm okay.
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Means absolutely nothing as far as the dinar rates are concerned. Website down will never mean anything related to the dinar.
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Been away from Dinar material for quite awhile...
Economically, what one factor prevents Iraq from dropping the zeroes this year?
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To go along with the other 7953 post that i made, because I want to!!
Yota, the post wasn't your opinion, it was just a post. I think that's cool.
Which Side of the Fence are You On?
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One last thing, defeatism doesn't scare me but I don't embrace it. There are multiple battles to fight throughout life. There is a saying "choose your battles wisely". Please don't ridicule others for the battles they choose. Could be health, could be the challenges of college for their kids.
Again, a lot of the things you recite I believe are true.
Thanks Carlos!