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4 hours ago, Markinsa said:
Not really, the definition of "become" means:
Me personally, I just think that alluding to God becoming something He isn't already is not correct and potentially misleading for the uninformed. God already IS, we do not need for Him to become something else. If God can change, how can we trust Him to continue to be who He already is? Or to keep His promises?
Sorry.
Not meaning to be misleading, perhaps the point was missed.
Thank you for the questions, I hope you find meaningful answers for them.
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7 hours ago, keylime said:
I think the "become" should be "reveal". He reveals Himself to us or the Israelites in the Old Testament as He deems needed. So He doesn't change. He just shows us more of His goodness as we go through our life with Him.
Yes’ become or prove to be… : )
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7 hours ago, Markinsa said:11 hours ago, Fly said:
Thus, Jehovah himself chooses to become whatever is necessary to fulfill his promises to his people.
[Mal 3:6 NASB20] 6 "For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, the sons of Jacob, have not come to an end.
If God does not change, how can He become?
A very reasonable question.
Partially answered in the quoted sentence, “Thus, Jehovah himself chooses to become whatever is necessary to fulfill his promises to his people“.
A God Who Has Not Changed
Through his prophet Malachi, God declared: “I am Jehovah; I have not changed.” (Malachi 3:6) Commenting on this verse, French Bible scholar L. Fillion observed that this declaration is closely associated with the accomplishment of divine promises. “Jehovah could have annihilated his rebellious people,” wrote Fillion, “but being unchangeable in his promises, he will, in spite of everything, be faithful to the promises he made in the past.” God’s promises, whether to an individual, a nation, or all mankind, will not be forgotten but be carried out in his due time. “He has remembered his covenant even to time indefinite, the word that he commanded, to a thousand generations.” —Psalm 105:8
Now combine thought’s gleaned from the text at (Mai 3:6) and now re-read the “quoted” sentence back within it’s surrounding text, perhaps there can be a better clarification.
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If this response Jehovah’s gave to Moses; “I Will Become What I Choose to Become,” is still not clear— perhaps a wider picture into the history of God dealing’s with his people (creation) will help.
Unchanging in Qualities and Standards.
As Jehovah told the people of Israel: “I am Jehovah; I have not changed.” (Mal 3:6) This was some 3,500 years after God’s creation of mankind and some 1,500 years from the time of God’s making the Abrahamic covenant. While some claim that the God revealed in the Hebrew Scriptures differs from the God revealed by Jesus Christ and by the writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures, examination shows this claim to be without any foundation. Of God, the disciple James rightly said: “With him there is not a variation of the turning of the shadow.” (Jas 1:17) There was no ‘mellowing’ of Jehovah God’s personality during the centuries, for no mellowing was needed. His severity as revealed in the Christian Greek Scriptures is no less nor his love any greater than it was at the beginning of his dealings with mankind in Eden.
The seeming differences in personality are in reality merely different aspects of the same unchanging personality. These result from the differing circumstances and persons dealt with, calling for different attitudes or relationships. (Compare Isa 59:1-4.) It was not Jehovah, but Adam and Eve, who changed; they put themselves in a position where Jehovah’s unchangeable righteous standards allowed no further dealings with them as members of his beloved universal family. Being perfect, they were fully responsible for their deliberate wrongdoing (Ro 5:14) and hence beyond the limits of divine mercy, although Jehovah showed them undeserved kindness in starting them out with clothing and allowing them to live for centuries outside the sanctuary of Eden and bring forth offspring before they finally died from the effects of their own sinful course. (Ge 3:8-24) After their eviction from Eden all divine communication with Adam and his wife apparently ceased.
Why he can deal with imperfect humans. Jehovah’s just standards allowed for his dealing differently with Adam and Eve’s offspring than with their parents. Why? For the reason that Adam’s offspring inherited sin, hence involuntarily started life as imperfect creatures with a built-in inclination toward wrongdoing. (Ps 51:5; Ro 5:12) Thus, there was basis for mercy toward them. Jehovah’s first prophecy (Ge 3:15), spoken at the time of pronouncing judgment in Eden, showed that the rebellion of his first human children (as well as that of one of his spirit sons) had not embittered Jehovah nor dried up the flow of his love. That prophecy pointed in symbolic terms toward a righting of the situation produced by the rebellion and a restoration of conditions to their original perfection, the full significance being revealed millenniums later. —Compare the symbolisms of the “serpent,” the “woman,” and the “seed” at Re 12:9, 17; Ga 3:16, 29; 4:26, 27.
Galatians 3:16,29; reads…. Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “and to your descendants,” in the sense of many. Rather, it says, “and to your offspring,” in the sense of one, who is Christ. Moreover, if you belong to Christ, you are really Abraham’s offspring, heirs with reference to a promise.
I hope this helps
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On 6/2/2023 at 9:54 PM, ronscarpa said:
AMEN..!
What does YHWH mean? The meaning of YHWH, “He Causes to Become.”Jehovah can become whatever is needed in order to fulfill his purposes, and he can cause to happen whatever is required with regard to his creation and the accomplishment of his purpose.
God’s reply to Moses, in Hebrew was: ʼEh·yehʹ ʼAsherʹ ʼEh·yehʹ. Some translations render this as “I AM THAT I AM.” However, it is to be noted that the Hebrew verb ha·yahʹ, from which the word ʼEh·yehʹ is drawn, does not mean simply “be.” Rather, it means “become,” or “prove to be.” The reference here is not to God’s self-existence but to what he has in mind to become toward others.
The meaning of God’s name (יהוה)
How, then, should we understand Jehovah’s answer to Moses’ question recorded at Exodus 3:13, 14? Moses asked: “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What should I say to them?” Jehovah answered: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become.”
Note that Moses was not asking Jehovah to reveal his name. Moses and the Israelites already knew God’s name well. Moses wanted Jehovah to reveal something faith-strengthening about the kind of God he is, something that may also be reflected in the meaning of his name. Hence, by responding, “I Will Become What I Choose to Become,” Jehovah was revealing a thrilling aspect of his own nature: In each situation, he becomes whatever is necessary to fulfill his purpose. For example, for Moses and the Israelites, Jehovah became a Rescuer, a Lawgiver, a Provider —and much more. Thus, Jehovah himself chooses to become whatever is necessary to fulfill his promises to his people. However, while the name Jehovah may include this idea, it is not limited to what he himself chooses to become. It also includes what he causes his creation to become in the accomplishment of his purpose.
Research; God’s Name— it’s Meaning and Pronunciation: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101984301
Tetragrammaton
A word that literally means “four letters” (derived from the Greek te·tra-, meaning “four,” and gramʹma, “letter”). It refers to the four Hebrew consonants יהוה (written from right to left) that represent God’s name.
The Tetragrammaton appears nearly 7,000 times in the Hebrew Scriptures. It may be transliterated into English as YHWH (or, JHVH). Like all written words in ancient Hebrew, the Tetragrammaton had no vowels, but when reading, the Jews in ancient times would pronounce the vowel sounds. Today, though, we do not know which vowels were used. While some feel that the name was pronounced “Yahweh,” others favor a pronunciation with three syllables. “Jehovah” is a widely recognized English form and has a long history in the English language.
What is the meaning of the name Jehovah? In Hebrew, the name Jehovah comes from a verb that means “to become,” and a number of scholars feel that it reflects the causative form of that Hebrew verb. Thus, the understanding of the New World Bible Translation Committee is that God’s name means “He Causes to Become.” Scholars hold varying views, so we cannot be dogmatic about this meaning. However, this definition well fits Jehovah’s role as the Creator of all things and the Fulfiller of his purpose. He not only caused the physical universe and intelligent beings to exist, but as events unfold, he continues to cause his will and purpose to be realized.
Therefore, the meaning of the name Jehovah is not limited to the related verb found at Exodus 3:14, which reads: “I Will Become What I Choose to Become” or, “I Will Prove to Be What I Will Prove to Be.” In the strictest sense, those words do not fully define God’s name. Rather, they reveal an aspect of God’s personality, showing that he becomes what is needed in each circumstance to fulfill his purpose. So while the name Jehovah may include this idea, it is not limited to what he himself chooses to become. It also includes what he causes to happen with regard to his creation and the accomplishment of his purpose.
Learn more; The Divine Name in the Hebrew Scriptures: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1001070204#h=14
Stand behind bible truth and for God’s Name, or, be’ for tradition’s of men.
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My father enlisted into the army at the age of 17, piloted B-29 over Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Not something I’m particularly proud of, a disposition I believed I obtained by my father. My father ended up dying from ill consequences pertaining to these flights.
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Sounds about right, Compelling:
1. tending to compel, as to force or push toward a course of action; overpowering.
2. having a powerful and irresistible effect; requiring acute admiration, attention, or respect.
Compel:
1. to force or drive, especially to a course of action.
2. to secure or bring about by force.
3. to force to submit; subdue.
4. to overpower.
Paul warned: By means of the trickery of men,
this expression used only here in the Christian Greek Scriptures, can literally be translated “in the playing of (dice) cube of the men. This ancient idiom alludes to the practice of cheating others when playing dice. Paul encountered “deceitful workers” who pretended to present the truth but who actually distorted it. (2 Corinthians 11:12-15) To attain their objectives, such men may resort to a selective use of evidence, emotionally loaded language, misleading half-truths, devious innuendo, and even outright lies.
The apostle Paul said that the truth was not to be found in human philosophies and traditions. (Colossians 2:8) Indeed, such teachings are deceptive. Paul warned Ephesian Christians that if they put faith in them, they would be like spiritual babes “tossed about as by waves . . . by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in contriving error.” (Ephesians 4:14) Today, “trickery of men” is promoted by the propaganda of those who oppose divine truth. “Propaganda” is defined by The New Encyclopædia Britannica as “the systematic effort to manipulate other people’s beliefs, attitudes, or actions.” Such propaganda cunningly twists truth into falsehood and promotes lies as truth.
Best leave creation to our Creator, God— Jehovah, which literally means: causes to become.
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Must of gotten stoned and missed it… 🧐
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On 5/22/2023 at 3:50 PM, boosterbglee said:
Screw all of us peons!
Matt 11:25—At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children.
The Story of Jonah—A Lesson in Courage and Mercy
https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=E&lank=pub-jcm_x_VIDEO
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On 5/18/2023 at 10:26 PM, bigwave said:
Bigwave you’re plane looks stubby and wide?
Bigwave your U2 video is a short clip, nstoolman1 U2 video shows from take off to 70,000ft and at no time in the video does anything look disproportionate, the sensor on the nose of the U2 your’s looks a little drooped maybe you can explain the effect of why that is?
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Sunday, May 21
Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them . . . , teaching them.—Matt. 28:19, 20.
Many today are stumbled because of our neutral stand with regard to politics. They expect us to vote in elections. However, we realize that from Jehovah’s standpoint, if we choose a human leader to rule over us, we are rejecting Him. (1 Sam. 8:4-7) People may also feel that we should build schools and hospitals as well as perform other charitable works. They are stumbled because we focus our efforts on the preaching work, not on solving the world’s immediate problems. How can we avoid being stumbled? (Matt. 7:21-23) Our main focus should be on doing the work that Jesus commanded us to do. Never should we become distracted by the political and social issues of this world. We love people and care about their problems, but we know that the best way to assist our neighbors is by teaching them about God’s Kingdom and by helping them to develop a friendship with Jehovah. w21.05 7 ¶19-20
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Protection for Those Sanctifying God’s Name
10 In stark contrast with what other religions are doing, Jehovah’s Witnesses honor and glorify the divine name. They sanctify it by using it in a dignified way. Jehovah takes pleasure in those who trust in him, and he becomes whatever is necessary to bless and protect his people. “He is cognizant of those seeking refuge in him.” —Nah. 1:7; Acts 15:14.
11 Although the majority in ancient Judah had become apostate, there were some who took “refuge in the name of Jehovah.” (Read Zephaniah 3:12, 13.) Yes, when God punished faithless Judah by allowing the Babylonians to conquer the land and take her people captive, some individuals, such as Jeremiah, Baruch, and Ebed-melech, were spared. They had lived “in the midst” of an apostate nation. Others stayed faithful while in captivity. In 539 B.C.E., the Medes and Persians under Cyrus conquered Babylon. Cyrus soon issued a decree allowing a Jewish remnant to return to their homeland.
12 Regarding those who would enjoy that restoration of true worship, Zephaniah foretold that Jehovah would save them and rejoice over them. (Read Zephaniah 3:14-17.) This has proved true in our time too. After God’s Kingdom was set up in heaven, Jehovah delivered the faithful remnant of anointed ones from spiritual captivity to Babylon the Great. And he rejoices over them down to this day.
13 Those with the hope of living forever on earth have also got out of Babylon the Great and enjoy spiritual liberation from false religious teachings. (Rev. 18:4) Thus, Zephaniah 2:3 finds its major fulfillment in our time: “Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth.” Meek ones of all nations, whether they cherish the heavenly or the earthly hope, are now taking refuge in Jehovah’s name.
read more: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2011041
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THE SINFUL WOMAN
One day Jesus was dining with a Pharisee. The occasion provided another opportunity for him to point out the need for receiving and extending mercy and forgiveness. The account relates: “And, look! a woman who was known in the city to be a sinner, learned that he was taking a meal in the house of the Pharisee, and she brought an alabaster case of perfumed oil, and, taking a position behind at his feet, she wept and started to wet his feet with her tears and she would wipe them off with the hair of her head. Also she tenderly kissed his feet and oiled them with the perfumed oil. At the sight the Pharisee that invited him said within himself: ‘This man, if he were a prophet, would know who and what kind of woman it is that is touching him, that she is a sinner.’”—Luke 7:37-39.
This Pharisee considered the sinful woman beneath him, reasoning that Jesus should have reacted similarly. Jesus knew his hypocritical thoughts. “In reply Jesus said to him: ‘Simon, I have something to say to you.’ He said: ‘Teacher, say it!’ ‘Two men were debtors to a certain lender; the one was in debt for five hundred denarii, but the other for fifty. When they did not have anything with which to pay back, he freely forgave them both. Therefore, which of them will love him the more?’ In answer Simon said: ‘I suppose it is the one to whom he freely forgave the more.’ He said to him: ‘You judged correctly.’ With that he turned to the woman and said to Simon: ‘Do you behold this woman? I entered into your house; you gave me no water for my feet. But this woman wet my feet with her tears and wiped them off with her hair. You gave me no kiss; but this woman, from the hour that I came in, did not leave off tenderly kissing my feet. You did not oil my head with oil; but this woman oiled my feet with perfumed oil. By virtue of this, I tell you, her sins, great though they are, are forgiven, because she did an act of great love; but he who is forgiven little, loves little.’”—Luke 7:40-47.
The pious Pharisee was the loser. In his unmerciful way he considered the sinful woman beneath his dignity and unworthy of his attention. At the same time, he did not honor Jesus. The sinful woman did. It is not that she had been a worse sinner than the Pharisee, though others thought so. Probably the opposite was true, as Jesus made clear concerning the Pharisees on other occasions. It was that she recognized the need for mercy and forgiveness. She realized more truly and deeply the reality of her sin. She also appreciated the necessity of showing love by her deeds. The Pharisee did not feel the need for any of these things. He thought he was righteous and did not need to repent. Because of this he did not feel he had to perform such loving acts as the woman did. His love for Christ was not as great. By his not extending mercy and love to other sinners, his sins proved to be greater. Jesus told the woman: “Your faith has saved you; go your way in peace.” There is no record that Jesus told the Pharisee that his faith had saved him.—Luke 7:50.
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Dr. Sam Bailey: https://drsambailey.com
Good website with a lot of professionally researched and presented information, what are your thought’s?
My first thought’
How deep can the rabbit hole go?
Deep as the will, of the ignorant informed mind, allows..?
The thought is concerning, when face to face with the difficulty of rapping my mind around a likely probability, to the information found within the website. https://drsambailey.com/resources/videos/viruses-unplugged/reiner-fuellmichs-coronaviruses/
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America is not God’s plan for restoring mankind‘s future hope for life on earth as God purposed, it Is God’s Kingdom, ruled by Jesus Christ, from heaven now placed as King of that Kingdom, that will restore, Gods original purpose back on earth. (Psalms 37:11,29)—— But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. 29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
Yes, Jesus has been granted the ability and the right to exercise power universally. As “King of kings and Lord of lords,” he has been authorized to bring to “nothing all government and all authority and power” —visible and invisible— that stand in opposition to his Father (Matthew 28:18). (Read— Daniel 2:44).
So your statement is true CL (Ezekiel 38:22,23)— I will bring my judgment against him [Gog] with pestilence and bloodshed; and I will rain down a torrential downpour and hailstones and fire and sulfur on him [Gog] and on his troops and on the many peoples with him [Gog]. And I will certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah.’
I added the brackets with Gog to aid in comprehending more fully the scripture. Compare: (Ezekiel 38 :16)— Like clouds covering the land, you will come against my people Israel. In the final part of the days I will bring you against my land so that the nations may know me when I sanctify myself through you before their eyes, O Gog.”’
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The “Church” fight’s evil, wins War to save America, the world eventually share in said victory and as a whole declare together. We, have accomplished Peace and Security!
In my view, that’s one way the world is headed in now, but how that will happen I truly have no idea, only possible thought’s of where this “dreams” interpretation could lead? It’s anybody’s guess really.
Precursor of “Sudden Destruction”
3 Proclaiming peace. In writing to the Thessalonians, the apostle Paul described the first development that we are awaiting. (Read 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3.) In this letter Paul mentions “Jehovah’s day,” which will begin with the attack on “Babylon the Great.” (Rev. 17:5) However, just before Jehovah’s day begins, nations will be saying, “Peace and security!” This expression may refer to one pronouncement or to a series of notable statements. Will religious leaders be involved? Since they are part of the world, they will possibly join the nations in saying, “There is peace!” (Jer. 6:14; 23:16, 17; Rev. 17:1, 2)
4 How do we benefit from understanding the significance of this prophecy? Paul states: “You are not in darkness, so that the day should overtake you as it would thieves.” (1 Thess. 5:3, 4) Unlike people in general, we discern where current events are heading. In exactly what manner will this prophecy about peace and security be fulfilled? We must wait and see how the world scene develops. Therefore, “let us stay awake and keep our senses.” —Read: 1 Thess. 5:6; Zeph. 3:8.
The Great Tribulation Begins
5 Attack on religion. Recall that Paul wrote: “Whenever it is that they are saying, ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them.” Just as a flash of lightning is closely followed by the crash of thunder, so the time of saying “Peace and security!” will be instantly followed by “sudden destruction.” What will be destroyed? First, “Babylon the Great,” the world empire of false religion, also known as “the prostitute.” (Rev. 17:5, 6, 15) This destruction of Christendom and all other false religious organizations forms the opening phase of the “great tribulation.” (Matt. 24:21;2 Thess. 2:8) For many, this event will come as a surprise. Why? Because up to that point, the prostitute will think of herself as a “queen” who will “never see mourning.” But she will suddenly discover that her confidence is misplaced. She will be removed quickly, as if “in one day.” —Rev. 18:7, 8.
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On 4/8/2023 at 11:18 AM, Fly said:
: we know from Jesus’ return to Kingdom rule— the signs of the season, but no one not even Jesus, only Jehovah (The Father) knows the time— of Jehovah’s great day! Matt 24:36—“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. Compare-John 14:28
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Return of Christ
Definition: Before leaving the earth, Jesus Christ promised to return. Thrilling events in connection with God’s Kingdom are associated with that promise. It should be noted that there is a difference between coming and presence. Thus, while a person’s coming (associated with his arrival or return) occurs at a given time, his presence may thereafter extend over a period of years. In the Bible the Greek word erʹkho·mai (meaning “to come”) is also used with reference to Jesus’ directing his attention to an important task at a specific time during his presence, namely, to his work as Jehovah’s executioner at the war of the great day of God the Almighty.
Do the events associated with Christ’s presence take place in a very brief time or over a period of years?
Matt. 24:37-39: “Just as the days of Noah were, so the presence [“coming,” RS, TEV; “presence,” Yg, Ro, ED; Greek, pa·rou·siʹa] of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.” (The events of “the days of Noah” that are described here took place over a period of many years. Jesus compared his presence with what occurred back then.)
At Matthew 24:37 the Greek word pa·rou·siʹa is used. Literally it means a “being alongside.” Liddell and Scott’s Greek-English Lexicon (Oxford, 1968) gives “presence, of persons,” as its first definition of pa·rou·siʹa. The sense of the word is clearly indicated at Philippians 2:12, where Paul contrasts his presence (pa·rou·siʹa) with his absence (a·pou·siʹa). On the other hand, in Matthew 24:30, which tells of the “Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory” as Jehovah’s executioner at the war of Armageddon, the Greek word er·khoʹme·non is used. Some translators use ‘coming’ for both Greek words, but those that are more careful convey the difference between the two.
The “Coming” of Jesus Christ
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5 Vividly portrayed by Jesus at Matthew 24:29, 30. In describing various features of the sign of his presence and of the conclusion of the system of things, he says: “The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.” At that time “the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven.” The nations of the earth “will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man [God’s Messianic King] coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” This “coming,” er·khoʹme·non in Greek, refers to Jesus’ appearing as Jehovah’s Vindicator.
6 This “coming” is described also by the apostle John at Revelation 1:7, where he says: “Look! He is coming with the clouds.” Oh, those enemies will not actually see Jesus with literal eyes, for “the clouds” signifies that he comes invisibly to execute judgment. If mere humans were to behold his heavenly glory with the naked eye, they would be blinded, just as Saul, on the road to Damascus, was struck blind when the glorified Jesus appeared to him in a great flashing light. —Acts 9:3-8; 22:6-11.
7 The Revelation account states that “every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him.” This means that opposers on earth will discern in the destruction that Jesus rains down on them that he has come with power and great glory as Jehovah’s Executioner. Why are these enemies described as “those who pierced him”? It is because their attitude of bitterness toward Jehovah’s servants today is like that of Jesus’ persecutors. They will, indeed, ‘beat themselves bitterly in grief because of him.’
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The answer here has been explained/taught for over 100 years. The confusion is in the statement; nobody knows the time. The reason for the confusion is there are two separate prophetic prophecies here being fused together and confused as one and the same. (1) The return of Jesus Christ and (2) Armageddon— destruction of Satan’s (this/mans) system of things.
The return of Jesus Christ: bible prophecy provides us the time.
Armageddon: we know from Jesus’ return to Kingdom rule— the signs of the season, but no one not even Jesus, only Jehovah (The Father) knows the time— of Jehovah’s great day! Matt 24:36—“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. Compare-John 14:28
So, it’s up to you too learn what you don’t know?
Answers are found in your own copy of the Bible.
Be Thankful —Jehovah’s Messianic Kingdom Rules
w90 10/15
13 The typical kingdom of God was overthrown by Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar in 607 B.C.E. By the seventh Jewish month, about the middle of October, the land lay desolate.b (2 Kings 25:8, 9, 22, 25, 26) In proof that this happened by divine permission, Jehovah God gave Nebuchadnezzar a dream. It involved a tree that was chopped down and allowed to grow again after a period of “seven times.” The dream had an initial fulfillment when Nebuchadnezzar was restored to his throne after a temporary state of madness. —Daniel 4:10-17, 28-36.
14 However, the theme of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream showed that its main fulfillment involved God’s typical kingdom, which that Gentile king had been permitted to ‘chop down.’ The dream concluded with this statement of purpose: “That people living may know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind and that to the one whom he wants to, he gives it and he sets up over it even the lowliest one of mankind.” —Daniel 4:17.
15 Only one person came to be qualified in all respects to be called “the lowliest one of mankind.” (Matthew 11:29) The only-begotten Son of God proved himself to be such by willingly leaving his heavenly glory to be born as a human, as Jesus, who suffered the most humiliating and cruel death at Satan’s hand. (Philippians 2:3, 5-11) After his resurrection back to heavenly glory, Jesus had to wait until the period of seven times of Gentile rule ended before being enthroned as the Messianic King over mankind. —Hebrews 10:12, 13.
16. How does the book of Revelation help Christians to calculate when the seven times ended?
But how did Jehovah’s Witnesses come to understand the length of the seven times? The Bible reveals…
Lesson #32. God’s Kingdom Now Rules! Enjoy Life Forever!—An Interactive Bible Course… https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102021232
site map is at bottom of the page. first column, click; Bible Study Course. Enjoy life forever!
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17 hours ago, divemaster5734 said:
Hello Fly, I pray you are well.
As a young solder unknowingly thrust into a universe of high-level military communications, one of the formats then is now known as the "dark web".
It's still in use by military, academia, research scientists, and most of the government.
There's far more constructive data there than illegal marketplaces for underworld nefarious activity, but most people only know it by the small amount of evil use.
Not so long ago, the word "g ay" was used as a description of wholesome community reveling, now I don't even know if the cuss word filter will allow that word to be printed.
The world we know today is so corrupted, I doubt anyone from even 100 years ago would even want to live here if suddenly time traveled to today.
To be honest, I was a big supporter of the public version release.
Just never realized the depravity of some.
Innocence seems to be the target of the left, and they are trying to steal it straight from the cradle.
Just like the word Christendom is now the polar opposite of Christian, but even that is no longer associated with Follower by many.
I tried wake up the world with some websites I published when the Village Idiot tricked America into the sandbox.
I had a banner on the top of every page that was Matthew 7:7. I prayed for guidance and witness before every rabbit hole.
The web sites are long gone. As the tech evolved it required progressively more understanding that I didn't care to learn.
It was an amazing journey that still has great influence over me today.
Unfortunately, most truth has been buried under thousands of pages of lies, or outright deleted from public reach.
Well, that was a wind-blown way of saying I think the intent was good, it's just that evil owns this world, and will corrupt.
I don't know if we'll ever do that motorcycle ride through Europe we talked about, or if I'll make it out there to check out those dive spots, but I'm glad to see your still a voice of sanity.
Thank you so much for your warm thoughts. 💙
I share prayers of well-being and spiritual health to you as well.
Even with the header of Mat 7:7 and prayer, perhaps it wasn’t the time and place, or most important Jehovah’s will.
Considering corruption with concealing of, how many webpages are to find, what chance dose Truth have of being found there? God only knows…
That’s why Jehovah made sure we had his word, to search where Truth is found on every page in every word— even still, it requires honest hearted effort to search… and make the Truth your own. (Pr 2:4,5 and 27:11)
If you have a restless heart, a yearning of what your not sure? I do know one thing for sure! It will not be found on any open forum, any effort will be smashed, stomped and its place and killed, because broad is the road leading into destruction, and many are going in. Narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it. (Read Mat 7:13,14)
Jesus said: “It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by Jehovah.’ Everyone that has heard from the Father and has learned comes to me. . . . No one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” (John 6:45, 65)
By “Christendom” refers to the realm of sectarian activity dominated by religions that claim to be Christian.
“Christianity” refers to the original form of worship and access to God taught by Jesus Christ.
Example; Christianity teaches of the Bible’s warning to get out of Babylon.
Christendom does not teach or warn any to flee Babylon’s coming distraction.
The warning is to leave, before her destruction; until that time, her parishioners are Christ-like before the coming destruction of Babylon, and not yet judged by Jehovah along with the destruction of Babylon the Great!
Keep Warning of Jehovah’s Unusual Work
A STRANGE deed! A most unusual work! That is what Jehovah performed in behalf of his people in ancient times back in the 11th century B.C.E. And this strange deed was a pattern for an even more unusual work that he is about to perform in the near future. What was that ancient deed? Soon after David was installed as king in Jerusalem, the neighboring Philistines launched an attack, and this triggered Jehovah’s strange deed. First, the Philistines began raiding in the low plain of Rephaim. David asked Jehovah what he should do and was instructed to go on the offensive. Obeying Jehovah’s word, David soundly defeated the mighty Philistine army at Baal-perazim. But the Philistines did not admit defeat. Soon they returned to ravage and pillage some more in the low plain of Rephaim, and David again sought direction from Jehovah.
This time he was told to go to the rear of the Philistines with his troops. Jehovah said: “When you hear the sound of a marching in the tops of the baca bushes, at that time you act with decision, because at that time Jehovah will have gone out ahead of you to strike down the camp of the Philistines.” And that is what happened. David waited until Jehovah produced the sound of marching in the top of the baca bushes —perhaps by means of a strong wind. Immediately, David and his troops leapt out from concealment and attacked the distracted Philistines, defeating them with a great slaughter. The religious idols that the Philistines left lying on the battlefield were gathered together and destroyed. —2 Samuel 5:17-25; 1 Chronicles 14:8-17.
This was an unusual work, a strange deed, accomplished by Jehovah against the Philistines and in behalf of his anointed king. This remarkable deed is of particular interest because the prophet Isaiah warned that Jehovah would do something equally strange and powerful against the spiritual drunkards of Judah. Hence, the unfaithful religious leaders of Isaiah’s day needed to take note. Christendom today should also take note because what happened to Judah was a pattern for Christendom’s eventual fate.
Read more w91 6/1: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1991406#h=1:0-28:375
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3 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:
So DW = Digital Warrior/Soldier?
Yes, DW is what I was referring to as digital warrior.
I believe big wave has good intentions I don’t believe cyber space was created with the same good intention, as any innocence, has rapidly eroded away.
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5 hours ago, bigwave said:
You post all this and yet you call me a DW.
What a forked tongue individual you are.
Link, bigwave reference as (DW) https://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/283262-nothing-you-see-here-is-real/&do=findComment&comment=2352509
Looking back, https://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/283262-nothing-you-see-here-is-real/&do=findComment&comment=2355433
I see DW. as a miss quote, with the same out come.
Sorry bigwave, I never though of myself as a digital soldier, I can see how the age of Information rapidly has become a concern for the population, when it should easily be a blessing. Why is that? I will give you a hint…
It became up setting, truth was shined on the flatearth lie, ironically, I was searching how the CIA (MK Ultra / Church of Scientology) used the false teaching to dumb down and breakdown mankind, when I stumbled across the Freemason (satanic) mysticism used to cast spells on mankind. Yes bigwave the god of this (mans) system of things. Yes bigwave the rabbit hole went a little deeper than the flat of your screen.
The information I posted was from a Jan 15-1960 watchtower magazine, amazing how well it fit today, I think so anyway.
PS. Attacking a messenger doesn’t refute the message.
Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth. (John 17:17)
Truth is for the honest hearted and not for everyone.
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Mat 7:21-23
Referencing Christendom, most reprehensible part of— Babylon the Great: ( satan’s) World Empire of False Religion)
Gen 3:15….And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.”
The Great God Who Is “Doing Wondrous Things” - w60 1/15 p. 40-41
What of Christendom’s “God”? The American coin of the realm bears the inscription, “In God we trust.” Which “God”? The God of “the church of your choice”? Surely the two hundred and more Catholic, Protestant and Jewish sects in the United States, together with their many related sects throughout the Western world, cannot be worshiping the same God. Their teachings are all mixed up and contrary to one another. They have not put up with the one, consistent “healthful teaching” of the Bible. They have followed man-made teachings instead. (2 Tim. 4:3, 4) They have not prayed ‘with all their heart’ as did David: “Instruct me, O Jehovah, about your way. I shall walk in your truth.” (Ps. 86:11, 12) Hence, they walk on in a labyrinth of confused doctrine. They not only scorn the pure doctrine of Jehovah, but even remove his name from its rightful place in their modern translations of the Bible, substituting an expressionless “Lord.”
The fruits of Christendom’s religious confusion are to be seen in its rising rate of crime, its juvenile delinquency and its alarming increase in divorce and godlessness. It is all what Jehovah foretold for ungodly Christendom in these “last days.” (Matt. 7:15-23; 2 Tim. 3:1-7; Jer. 5:29-31) Christendom denies Christ both in her doctrine and in her way of life. Her proclaiming the United Nations to be the hope of the world, or her competing with the communistic “king of the north” by stockpiling nuclear arms, will not save Christendom from her Armageddon destruction by Jehovah and his now-reigning King, the Christ that she professes to serve.—Dan. 11:38; Luke 6:46-49.
This world and its polyglot religions stand condemned before Jehovah and his Executioner, Christ Jesus. How must men ‘agreeable to Jehovah’s heart,’ as David was, act at this time? (Acts 13:22) The prophet Jeremiah speaks of this religious world under the symbol “Babylon,” and says, “Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and provide escape each one for his own soul. Do not be rendered inanimate through her error. For it is the time of vengeance belonging to Jehovah. There is treatment that he is paying back to her. Babylon . . . [is] making all the earth drunk. . . . That is why the nations keep acting crazed.”—Jer. 51:6, 7.
Do you see the modern-day nations “acting crazed”? Then flee! says the prophet. But how? By separating from their noisy politics, their heartless militarism, their degraded morals and their stupefying religion. Drunk with false religion, whether this be churchianity, the exalting of military might or the worship of the Communist state, the nations have ignored God’s warning. Their saber-rattling has brought them not only to the brink of a nuclear “hot war” but more than this, to the brink of terrible and wondrous destruction by the great God, Jehovah. However, within those nations, peace-loving men of good will are awakening to the emptiness of the nationalistic gods of their forefathers. They are fleeing from support of the “sheer falsehood” of the religions of Christendom and heathendom, and dedicating themselves to Jehovah, the true God and Creator of the enduring new world of sanity and peace.
These are the men of good will that David foresaw at Psalm 86:9, and who are also described at Jeremiah 16:19, 20: “O Jehovah my strength and my stronghold, and my place for flight in the day of distress, to you the nations themselves will come from the ends of the earth, and they will say: ‘Indeed our forefathers came to possess sheer falsehood, vanity and things in which there was nothing beneficial.’ Can earthling man make for himself gods when they are no gods?” Jehovah’s anger will soon blaze against the false gods of the nations, and concerning this he declares: “At this one time I shall cause them to know my hand and my mightiness, and they will have to know that my name is Jehovah.”—Jer. 16:21.
Read more: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1960041
Do not become wise in your own eyes. Fear Jehovah and turn away from bad. It will be a healing to your body And refreshment for your bones. (Pr 3:7,8)
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DW, is the title awarded by yourself and to yourself, you don’t know what it means? That is your problem.
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DW aka(bigwave)
You did know jews were not the only men and women in the camps right?
Your acquainted newfound career has not only denied our Creator a purposeful globe home for all mankind, to deny a huge portion of men and women honor at there panned death and shortened life.
Shame on you, sir.
DYOR
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Opinion on what’s going on here:
June?
in Politics, 2nd Amendment (Gun Control)
Posted
1 Thessalonians 3:5—Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape.
Could these statements be where current world events lead? I’m not sure… only the possibility which seems to be on almost everybody’s mind.
Who will not escape?
What are birth pains pertaining to?
Where will the distraction be seen?
Why vital to have accurate answers for the above..?s
God's Kingdom Rules!
God’s Kingdom Removes Its Enemies
Proclaiming peace. In writing to the Thessalonians, the apostle Paul described the first development that we are awaiting. (Read 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3.) In this letter Paul mentions “Jehovah’s day,” which will begin with the attack on “Babylon the Great.” (Rev. 17:5) However, just before Jehovah’s day begins, nations will be saying, “Peace and security!” This expression may refer to one pronouncement or to a series of notable statements. Will religious leaders be involved? Since they are part of the world, they will possibly join the nations in saying, “There is peace!” (Jer. 6:14; 23:16, 17; Rev. 17:1, 2) This proclaiming of peace and security will signal that the day of Jehovah is about to begin. Enemies of God’s Kingdom “will by no means escape.
The Great Tribulation Begins
Attack on religion. Recall that Paul wrote: “Whenever it is that they are saying, ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them.” Just as a flash of lightning is closely followed by the crash of thunder, so the time of saying “Peace and security!” will be instantly followed by “sudden destruction.” What will be destroyed? First, “Babylon the Great,” the world empire of false religion, also known as “the prostitute.” (Rev. 17:5, 6, 15) This destruction of Christendom and all other false religious organizations forms the opening phase of the “great tribulation.” (Matt. 24:21; 2 Thess. 2:8) For many, this event will come as a surprise. Why? Because up to that point, the prostitute will think of herself as a “queen” who will “never see mourning.” But she will suddenly discover that her confidence is misplaced. She will be removed quickly, as if “in one day.” —Rev. 18:7, 8.
Compare Read (Daniel 2:44)
Learn more: God’s Kingdom Removes Its Enemies