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  1. To me all of the questioning about believing our Heavenly Father for prosperity hinges on Deuteronomy 8:18. It tells us the reason He wants us to prosper. Listen:

    "And you shall remember the Lord your G_d, for it is He who gives you the power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant which He swore to your fathers, as in this day.

    So, our Heavenly Father actually gives us the power to get wealth..how? Well, by giving us good jobs, by allowing us to become educated, by teaching us how to invest and save and spend wisely. Why? So that He can use us and our wealth, if needed, to bring glory to Him. By feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, teaching the unlearned, building schools and hospitals and supporting missionaries all over the world. Those things cannot be done without money..it takes money to build a hospital and a church and a school and to pay for buses and cars and houses and huts and drill water wells and buy equipment to rebuild after a disaster. Money is necessary in this old world to continue His work. His Word continues to prosper and accomplish what He sent it out to do almost 4000 years ago. I, for one, am in agreement that this new wealth will come quickly...we have a lot to do. ;)

    fantastic. thank you for your candor and approach. amen.

  2. sorry DUDE you don't realize that Jesus was speaking to the unbeliever in most of these scenarios.........People who TRUST in their riches rather than the Lord, it's harder for that man to enter the kingdom than a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. Keep it in context here!

    ummmmm - the young man kept all of the commandments. by the standard of the day he was a believer. I don't think you can make a statement like that based on the scriptures.

  3. All of these verses are wonderful because they warn us not make money our GOD. Even GOD warned the Children of Israel, when I do make you incredibly rich do not forget ME nor that it was I who gave you the wealth. But none of these verses say "Don't pray for prosperity." or even "Don't pray to be rich." Because it IS GOD's will to prosper us and make us rich. HE says, "Hey rich people don't put your trust in riches which are uncertain, but put your trust in me." In this particular verse, HE does not say, "Hey rich people give away all of your riches and follow me." Jesus only said that to the rich young ruler because the LORD knew his heart and knew where his treasure was. Jesus wasn't telling everybody who is rich to give away their riches. Of course it is easier for a camel to get thru the eye of a needle than a rich person to get into God's kingdom, but guess what. I am already in God's Kingdom as a believer and Child of God. HE is the center of my existence, not money. So these verses apply to me as a warning not to let riches and wealth become my GOD when HE does bless me with it. Now obviously your walk with the LORD, or where you are at with HIM is different from where I am at with HIM, so you take comfort in these verses and use them to help you keep what GOD is dealing with you on in perspective. But my relationship with HIM is such that I take comfort in the verses that tell me how much GOD loves me and wants to bless me, while at the same time, be wary of trusting in the blessings as opposed to the ONE who Blesses. You are not wrong because that is where you are at with HIM. I am not wrong, because that is where I am at with HIM. The Bible clearly states, "As you believe, so shall it be done unto you." That is why Paul instructed us not to get involved in such debates and strivings, for we are all HIS children, and we are all at different places in our "race". Just live in love seeking to please HIM in everything, and HE will direct our path and provide for our path.

    my heart is this:

    It is not wrong to pray for blessings. it is not wrong to be blessed. if there were not Christ following business men/women and Christ following people of influence then the Cristian community's response to the worlds crisis would be mute and void. ministries of vision need people of wealth and influence to operate. that is not my qualm.

    I have a distinct problem with people being so audacious as to demand and "claim" a blessing from God. those prayers are not asking God for anything - they are presenting God with a list of demands and using His words out of context as ammunition against Him. I have seen miracles as well. I am a living miracle. God has shown me more favor and blessing in one lifetime than one man deserves. The thought of approaching a loving Heavenly Father with a list of demands and saying "I think Your word says this and I'm here to claim it - give it to me now!!!!" breaks my heart. The story of the prodigal son should serve as a warning. The sons fortune was there. He knew it was eventually going to be His - he DEMANDED it and it ruined him. It's not wrong to pray and ask for something. but a fool makes a claim on what he is not promised. a fool makes demands.

  4. 1 Timothy 6:17

    Charge them that are rich in this present world, that they be not highminded, nor have their hope set on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

    Jeremiah 9:23

    Thus saith Jehovah, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches;

    2 Corinthians 8:9

    For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might become rich.

    Revelation 3:17

    Because thou sayest, I am rich, and have gotten riches, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art the wretched one and miserable and poor and blind and naked:

    Mark 10

    21 Jesus looked closely at the man. He liked him and said, “There’s one thing you still need to do. Go sell everything you own. Give the money to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come with me.”

    22 When the man heard Jesus say this, he went away gloomy and sad because he was very rich.

    23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “It’s hard for rich people to get into God’s kingdom!”

    24 The disciples were shocked to hear this. So Jesus told them again, “It’s terribly hard to get into God’s kingdom!

    25 In fact, it’s easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God’s kingdom.”

  5. Try to tell that to Abrahan when he was reasoning with God to save Sodom if he could find just 50 righteous people, how about 40 God would you save the city for 40, and so on and so on. clear down to 10. Those of us that has a close relationship with God knows that he cares about our needs our desires and he loves blessing his children, that is his will. The Lord blesses those that will be a blessing to others.

    agree. but all we want is to be instantly rich. God is looking for righteous people to make Him famous. If we believe that God wants us to be rich and that he will do so then we are fools. Try telling that to the believers in other parts of the world. This "claiming" crap is asinine and cult-ish. I grew up in a church that taught all that garbage. people just had to claim their healing and God would heal them. we were all shocked when we went to their funeral. people just had to claim their finances would be better and God would take care of them. we were all shocked when we had to help them move because they had been evicted. People would claim their marriage was healed and we were all shocked to see them separate within the same year Faith is not wrong - improper use of scripture IS and people will be held accountable for passing lies as truth. My God is sovereign AND he is concerned. Moses was able to change the heart of God when it came to saving His people - not when it came to their comfort. Those who seek God to make them comfortable usually wind up fat. lazy. and eventually dead. He blesses us to make HIM famous - not so that we become self-sufficient and turn our backs on Him. Claiming something and throwing it in Gods face is the same as claiming you are skinny and not bothering to diet.

  6. WELL - I can honestly say I got what I expected. The positive stay positive - The negative stay negative. Thanks for taking the time to at least read this. Thanks for giving support or scrutiny. I'm a big enough boy to take it!!!! I will honestly miss you people when this is all done. And to those of you who wish to come to the east coast to have steak once we're through this - I'll take you to Ruth's Chris and cover your tab. Me and my buddy I told you about.

    peace to you all! blessings as well!

  7. THIS IS MY FIRST POST - BE GENTLE

    Just got off of the phone with my buddy. He's the one who talked me into investing in Dinar in the first place. This morning he stopped by his local branch of Wachovia to make a few transactions. As a real estate investor, he has spent enough time at his local bank for them to know him by name. This morning, his bank teller greeted him and then said "hey - aren't you invested in Iraqi Dinar?". My Friend indicated that - yes - he was, in fact invested in IQD. His teller then told him that they received a letter from the home office last week - they were told that a revaluing of the IQD was eminent and that they would be trading the currency in the next few weeks.

    My friend asked if he could see the letter. It was presented. He asked if he could photograph the letter for me to post here. He was not allowed to do so, but he was allowed to actually hold it. SO - Rumor? Yes. Documentation? Yes. Can I show it to you? Boy, I wish I could.

    Don't be too harsh . . .

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