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It's been like that for a very long time
I concur, I've seen it like that for months
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A Message From Okie Oilman....
I have been asked to post a message to all the forum members from Okie.
He sends his deepest regrets that he won't be able to be here anymore as he was banned tonight from KTFM
He has always shared his intel/info for the encouragement of all the people involved in this investment.
His heart felt love and prayers are with you all and he prays that everyone stays strong and carries through with the commitments you have made to the Lord.
God bless you all.....
from Okie Oilman
by General-C
Don't know what the circumstances were since I am not a member just thought people here might want to know
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has there been any proof of contracts being signed at that rate buckwheat? i have seen it mentioned a few times just never seen anyfin solid.
Scooter was in chat earlier today and he said that the Boeing contract to make 737's and 787's was signed at the $3.20 rate. He also said the GE contract was in the $2+ range however that was signed quite some time ago. If it comes from Scooter, to me that is more reliable than any news article or any other source.
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Phoenix I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment of the situation. It doesn't makes sense to give such a short period of time to turn in the large denominations. In fact I agree with Ali when he said quite some time ago that there would not be a time period on removing the large notes; they just would be put out of circulation when the CBI got them back. As far as the rate, I believe it would not be to Iraqs advantage to come in at close to our dollar. Contracts have already been signed using the $3.20 rate and also the $2+ rate. The times I've disagreed with you I can count on 1 hand, however this is one of those times. Thank You very much for all your time and effort you put in to informing us about what is going on. May your holiday season be happy and safe.
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MM17′s Chat 11-25 8:30 AM
mailman17
GOOD MORNING DS
lstoeser
good mornign mm17\
Bluegoose
GM mm17
mailman17
AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL OUR MEMBERS
lstoeser
you too
Bluegoose
and to you too…
russell
good morning
Mountainman
Ahh Smell that coffee!!! GM DS and mailman17
mailman17
LOTS OF GOOD NEWS LAST NIGHT
GOP
Happy thanksgiving to you MM and MM, Isoter, russell…
Bluegoose
pray tell
mailman17
YEP MM..WORKING ON THE FIRST CUP AS WE SPEAK
Mountainman
Hey so I gotta fire up my search engines this morning? lol
mailman17
I HAVE NO DOUBT MALIKI WILL FOR HIS CABINET WITH APPROVAL ACROSS THE BOARD
MM…GO GET EM
Mountainman
Firing them up now….
sailor
i know what the special announcement is suposed 2 b !!!!!!!!!!!!!
mailman17
I DO WOWEVER WISH TO THANK IRELAND AND PORTUGAL AND SPAIN
sailor
mm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mailman
HOWEVR
YOU ASK WHY?
Bluegoose
pushing IMF “over the top”
mailman17
THAT IS THE FIRE LIT UNDER IRAQS BUTT
GOP
was wonderin why
mailman17
ADMINITERED BYT THE IMF AND THE UN
WE KNEW FROM DAY ONE..THE DINAR WAS NEEDED TO BOLSTER THE EURO
WE KNEW THE EURO WAS IN TROUBLE
GREECE WAS THE FIRST TO FALL
AND WHAT HAPPENED
IMF GAVE STERN WARNINGS TO IRAQ TO GET THIS DONE
BUT THEY HESITATED
IMF WAS NOT HAPPY, BUT KNEW THEY HAD TO TRUST IRAQ TO GET THIS DONE THE DEMOCRATIC WAY
AND STEPPING IN WOULD HAVE BEEN EMBARRISING TO EVERYONE…ESPECIALLY IRAQ AND ITES PEOPLE
BUT THEN SOMETHING HAPPENED
IRELAND
BROKE…BANKRUPT
WITH PORTUGAL AND SPAIN RIGHT ON THEIR HEELS
AND ITLAY ECT TO FOLLOW
THE EURO MUST BE SAVED IMMEDIATELY
aspen
Hey MM17, neighbor is insulted; those are his peeps he says…yeah the broke ones
mailman17
IF THEY TANK ACROSS THE BOARD…THINK HOW MANY CURRENCIES THAT ARE PEGGED TO IT ALSO FAIL
mailman17 says to (08:34:51):
ASPEN…LOL
THE IMF LAID THE GAUNTLET…IRAQ OBEYED..FUNY HOW THINGS WORK IN OUR FAVOR
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE CURRENCIES THE KUWAIT DINAR IS PEGGED TO?
OR WHAT THE IRAQI DINAR WILL BE PEGGED TO?
ONE OF THEM IS THE EURO
NOW…MY TAKE ON IT IS THIS
PAY ATTENTION…LOL
THE REASON IRAQ WILL RV ASAP IS THE IMF CANNOT ALLOW SPAIN AND PORTUGAL TO FALL TOO
GREEC AND IRELAND WERE THIER STRAWS THAT BROKE THE CAMELS BACK
THOSE 2 COUNTRIED WILL REBOUND WITH HELP
BUT THE IMF CANNOT AFFORD TO HELP THOSE THAT FOLLOW
LITERALLY BROKE
THEY MUST ALLOW THE EURO TO GAIN STRENGTH IN USING THE DINAR AS FORIGHN CURRENCY RESERVE
THAT SHOULD BRING EUROPE BACK TO STABILTY..BUT THEY CNANOT WAIT…NO MORE DEADLINES, NO MORE THREATS…THE IMF NEEDS THIS DONE NOW
AND IRAQ KNOWS THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE FORGIVING, NO MORE ALLLOWED DELAYS….IT WILL HAPPEN WITHOUT THEM IF NEED BE
SO YES…MEDIC IS 100% CORRECT…OUR TIME IS NEAR,,,,VERY NEAR
AND I EXPECT SOMETHING TO COME OUT AS EARLY AS THIS WEEKEND
SO ID PEEPS LIKE MOUNTAINMAN KEEP THEIR ENGINES SEARCHING…WE WILL SEE IT
HANG IN PEEPS…AND HAVE A VERY HAPPY THANKSGIVING…AND PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR
WHEN YOUR SITTING DOWN AND SAY A PRAYER FOR YOUR BOUNTY..PLEAS SAY ONE FOR ALL THOSE SERVING OUR NATION OVERSEAS…THE MAN UPSTAIRS REALLY DOES PAY ATTENETION…
THANKS…LATER
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Med says to (16:23:36):
HEY ALL
SO WHAT DID I WALK INTO
A MISSION OF DEPRESSION OR WHAT
sonshine says to (16:24:45):
No, not depressed at all. Full of expectations.
Med says to (16:24:53):
AS YOU ALL SHOULD BE
YOU KNOW I SEE THE SAME QUESTIONS ASKED ALL THE TIME
HECK WITH IT
IF YOU DON’T SEE THAT I CHANGED THE WINDOW I WAS GIVEN
IN THE CHAT’S I GIVE
STOP ASKING
I HAVEN’T CHANGED MY MIND IN 10 MONTHS ON 2010
I HAVEN’T SAID ONE THING ABOUT THE WINDOW
I JUST GAVE OUT OVER THE WEEKEND
THAT IT HAS CHANGED
SOME OF YOU JUMP HOOPS OVER EVERY LITTLE ARTICLE
AND DON’T LET THE DUST SETTLE
TO LOOK AT ALL THE INFO
SO FAR NOTHING AND I MEAN THERE IS NOTHING NEGATIVE OUT THERE ABOUT THE FORMING OF THE GOVT
NOT ONE THING
butterfly says to (16:28:03):
so med…. still think this year? tee hee
Med says to (16:28:12):
EVERYTHING SO FAR IS STILL ON TRACK
OK BRB
JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID FOR A BIT
Nighthk11 says to (16:32:51):
The 2011 budget is now in parliment for review and ratification- it is 19.5 billion dollars short- a loan to cover this from the IMF will not be forthcomming until Iraq has a tradeable-international currency that has an established value to pay back the loan and a big hello to all
Nighthk11 says to (16:35:11):
We are looking good- 3 turn downs from the IMF means they are no longer playing with Iraq
Med says to (16:35:03):
OK BACK
I WANT EVERYONE TO TAKE A SEAT
FOR A MINUTE
NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT MANY ARE RUNNING IN FEAR
FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS
HOUSE
JOB
WHATEVER
MEDICAL
FIRST MISTAKE WAS COUNTING ON THIS AS YOUR LOTTERY TICKET
NO INVESTMENT IS EVER THAT
NOW TO MY TWO SCENARIO’S
IF I WERE TO TELL YOU THAT IN 6 WEEKS ON A SPECIFIC DAY
THE DINAR WAS GOING TO RV FOR SURE….NO IF ANDS OR BUTS
AND IT WAS GOING TO BE .86
WOULD YOU BE HAPPY AND PATIENTLY WAIT?
YES OR NO
OK TWO PEOPLE WOULD BE
WELL 3
OUT OF 5000
WELL ME 4
LOL
SO NOW IF WE KNOW THAT CBI HAS SAID AS SOON AS THE GOVT IS FORMED
THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE NOMINAL VALUE….KNOWING THROUGH MY TWO FRIENDS INTEL THAT THE SMALL DENOMS ARE AT THE CENTRAL BANK AND READY TO BE ISSUED
BUT THAT MALIKI DOESN’T GET IT DONE
AND IT GOES TO ALLAWI
AND HE HAS 14 DAYS TO FORM
WHICH HE SAID HE CAN DO IN SEVEN
BUT LETS USE THE 14
AND WE STILL KNOW THAT CBI IS STILL GOING TO RV AS SOON AS THE GOVT IS FORMED.
SO WE ARE THEN STILL AT 6 WKS
SO WHY WHEN SOMEONE HERE IT MAY TAKE TWO MORE WEEKS AFTER MALIKI DOESN’T WHICH IS 6 WEEKS
DO I HERE OMG IT IS GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS
WHEN YOU ALL JUST SAID YOU WOULD WAIT 6 WEEKS IF I COULD GUARANTEE AN RV OF .86 WKS FROM NOW
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OF CBI TELLING US
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO RV AS SOON AS THE GOVT IS FORMED AND THEY GAVE THE RATE
AND ME SAYING IT
THE GUY HAS RUN A STEADY SHIP
AND MANAGED IT FOR 7 YEARS
AND THERE IS NOTHING IN SHABIBI’S PAST
THAT CAUSES ME TO NOT BELIEVE WHAT HE HAS SAID PUBLICLY
OVER AND OVER AND OVER
STOP LIVING IN FEAR OVER THIS
TAKE CHARGE
AND JUST BELIEVE
IT WILL BE SO MUCH LESS STRESSFUL
I HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS IT WOULD
NOT WHEN
BUT I KNEW IN MY MIND IT WAS GOING TO
I NEVER WAIVERED ON IT
AND PUT MYSELF THROUGH THESE SENSELESS UPS AND DOWNS
BECAUSE OF AN ARTICLE THAT MAYBE YOU THOUGHT WAS NOT POSITIVE
IT IS THE BIG PICTURE
I AM NOT LOOKING AT THE CRUMBS OFF THE LOAF OF BREAD THAT FELL TO THE FLOOR
I AM LOOKING AT THE LOAF THAT IS STILL SITTING THERE
OK ALL DONE
TY
mailman17 says to (16:56:33):
OK..CLEAR THE AIR
IF MALIKI CANNOT FORM IN 30 DAYS
TALABANI THEN HAS 15 DAYS TO NOMINATE THE NEXT IN LINE…WHO THEN HAS 30 DAYS TO FORM
THATS ACCORDING TO THE IRAQI CONSTITUTION
NOW, DO I THINK IT WILL COME TO THAT?..NO
SO YES…AS I SAID BEFORE…IF ALLAWI JACKS AROUND…WE COULD BE IN FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER 2 MONTHS
I DONT SEE THAT HAPPENING
WHY?
MALIKI SHOULD BE IN FEAR OF HIS LIFE RIGHT NOW, AND HAS BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MENDS WITH ALL INVOLVED
WITHOUT FEAR OF PROSECUTION
WE SHALL SEE JUST HOW SMNART THIS DUMBASS REALLY IS
OK..DIN DIN
LATER
butterfly says to (17:02:21):
so the break down of time is… Maliki gets the nod thursday, has 30 days, then if he fails, talibani has another 15 days to nominate, then that person has 30 days to form
keep that time line in the back of your minds just as a reminder
as worst case
Nighthk11 says to (17:09:16):
The RV is built into the 2011 budget for Iraq 86 billion 400 million dollars the largest yet- They will receive no monies from the IMF until they reval the currency- Government progress is moving along and should be done shortly- Mahdi- Allawi- Barzani- and Hakim have all been givem assurances to get what they want- whatever deals that have to be made will be- so we are still in good shape
They are still 19.5 billion short for 2011- IMF has indicated a willingness to forward that amount once they adhere to the conditions of addressing the private sector- but have been told no funds without RV- Bernake will not release any amount from DFI or forward a loan to cover their deficit w/out International currency as a way to insure re-payment of monies
Brutus anythoughts I have now is mere speculation but I think a fire has been lit with them because doors are closing in their face
They cannot even fund welfare-
Now contrary to what is in the news- Maliki will make whatever deals he has to to get this done- he is a survivor
There is tremendous pressure on them from IMF-UN-WTO-WB to get this gov’t in place I am told that O will not support protection of their DFI beyond 31 Dec- More Pressure
Now as Med and MM17 stated- the rules may change if Maliki does not get in and they have to start over again- I honestly do not believe the IMF can afford to wait and will intervene to do something with the dinar
mailman17 says to (17:20:30):
NOR DO I
tinkerbelle says to (17:20:58):
do we think for one minute that Maliki will let someone else in as PM????
mailman17 says to (17:21:05):
NO HE WILL BE PM
Nighthk11 says to (17:21:23):
The situation at this point is that important regarding the dinar as most european countries that make up the EU =26 use the dinar as a currency to back their own
mailman17 says to (17:21:36):
HE WILL HAVE TO SUCK IT UP AND CONCEDE THE DEALS ALREADY AGREED UPON
Nighthk11 says to (17:21:56):
Correct MM17 or take the 13 steps to the gallows
mailman17 says to (17:22:03):
NOOSE TIME
Nighthk11 says to (17:23:03):
aside from the pressure- I really believe that they have a full understanding of just how important this is to them and the world and will now perform. Parliment is being held accountable by the new speaker (Sunni) and with the oversight from allawi’s new committie- Maliki will be in check
mailman17 says to (17:24:33):
ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW SHERRIF IN TOWN..THE POP
Nighthk11 says to (17:25:12):
Once implemented- the dinar on the world market will be strong enough to help stop the slide of the EU and many more countries
mailman17 says to (17:25:15):
HANG IN THERE PEEPS..A LITTLE LONGER
YES IT WILL NIGHT
THE EU NEEDS THIS DESPARATELY TO SURVIVE
Nighthk11 says to (17:26:47):
Yesterday- Maliki has requested parliment expedite the 2011 budget- so he knows- They will not come out and tell us directly folks but their movements indicate a fast track to internationalizing the dinar ASAP
mailman17 says to (17:27:08):
AS THIR BUDGET IS IN DOLLARS
PER SE
EQUIVALENT
WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO THEM BEING ON PAR WITH THE DOLLAR
Nighthk11 says to (17:28:28):
If they comply with the IMF they may just get close to whatever amount they think their money should be worth on the open market- but will still have to abide by IMF rules as they have not developed the private sector as requested
mailman17 says to (17:28:42):
YES’ AND STRICTLY ABIDE BY THEIR OWN FINANCIALS INSTEAD OF WHAT COUNTRIES LIKE KUWAIT WANT
Nighthk11 says to (17:29:21):
It will be enough to stabalize the EU and maby a few cents more- so it’s looking very good to endgame
mailman17 says to (17:29:41):
AGREED
Nighthk11 says to (17:30:06):
correct MM17- 18 months ago if they had followed the IMF advice then they may be in a position to argue a higher rate
mailman17 says to (17:30:17):
HENCE THE NOMINAL VALUE ASPECT
Nighthk11 says to (17:30:27):
exactly
mailman17 says to (17:30:28):
YEP..NOT NOW
Nighthk11 says to (17:31:05):
Whatever it is it will be better than the 5 or 10 cents I envisioned so long ago
mailman17 says to (17:31:09):
THIER FINANCIALS SAY 1-1…MAYBE A BIT MORE
ME TOO…I REMEMBER
Nighthk11 says to (17:31:39):
Yes and that will be just fine with me as I will be all out
mailman17 says to (17:31:40):
YES IT WILL
TEXAS HOLDEM…ALL IN
CANT RAISE ON A ALL IN
Nighthk11 says to (17:32:41):
Now allawi should stop whining and get on board as they are gonna give him some power and stop trying to be a spoiler
But folks I think we are still in a very good spot- either Maliki gets it done- or the IMF will make a decision- seems everyone is outta time because of world developments
So I am surmising with CW’s input we are back to shibibi’s december forcast for an RV
That is with the timeline of events in parliment that is now being discussed- But anything can happen at any moment
Yes CW- they know the position they are in and the importance of getting an established gov’t in place
With a good degree of luck- they may have this gov’t thing wrapped up by EOM so they can RV and beg the IMF for more money
At which point- I will be happy to give them back theirs for greenbacks
Okay outta here for a bit- you good folks take care anmd stay well
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NOW I AM NO ROCKET SCIENTIST GANG
JUST A SIMPLE GUY
BUT
SOME OF YOU SHOULD BE TOTALLY EMBARRASSED
AT HOW FRIGGN LITTLE CONFIDENCE YOU HAVE IN THINGS
AND THAT YOU OVERLOOK THE REAL ISSUE OF TODAY
mailman17:
i have never lost it…you know that…
Med:
AND IT WAS NOT THE FACT THAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT IS COMING THURSDAY
TO FORM
THE BIGGEST NEWS OF THE DAY
I HAVE NOT SEEN EVEN DISCUSSED
SINCE I WAS ON THIS MORNING
AND THAT IS OF A MUCH MORE IMPACT ON THE RV THAN THE MOVING OF THE NOD TO FORM
ANYONE HAVE A CLUE?
Med:
OMG
ASPEN
aspen:
IMF?
Med:
YOU ARE MY HERO
lmdinar:
IMF
papa2snbh:
IMF is not pleased with the Iraqi MOF
Med:
ABSOLUTELY
THAT WAS THE BIG NEWS OF THE DAY
mailman17:
IRAQ HAS SWAYED FROM IMF TIMETABLE
MED:
YES
FOR TWO YEARS THEY DID
AND NOW
THE IMF SAID NO MORE MONEY
UNLESS THEY AGREE NOW
TO CHANGE THE MONETARY POLICY
DEVELOP THE PRIVATE SECTOR
mailman17:
FORCEBLY IF NEEDED
MED:
AND MANAGE DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS IN A BETTER WAY
THERE ARE ONLY TWO TYPES OF MONETARY POLICIES
CONTRACTIONARY AND EXPANSIONARY
NOW THE IMF TOLD IRAQ IN FEB 09
TO REVALUE
WORK ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR
AND STOP SUBSIDIES
AND TURN OVER AT LEAST 51% CONTROLLING INTEREST IN THE OIL INDUSTRY
THEY DID NOT
AND THEY THEN DID NOT RENEW THE SBA
THAT WAS OVER ON MARCH 18 2009
SEE IF YOU DIDN’T KNOW ALL THAT
THEN YOU ARE GOING TO BE CONFUSED
THEN FOR THE NEXT YEAR
IRAQ WENT THIER OWN WAY
NO PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT
NO INCREASED OIL PRODUCTION
AND UNEMPLOYMENT WENT FROM 16%
TO OVER 28% UNDER THE TUTELAGE OF THE IRAQI EXPERTS
THEN THE MOF AND CBI
WENT TO THE IMF AGAIN
NEEDED HELP
SO THEY ENTERED INTO ANOTHER SBA
AGREED TO TERMS
WHICH WERE NOT TO ALLOT OF IRAQI’S LIKING
WHICH WAS TO STOP SUBSIDIES
PASS ON THE OIL INDUSTRY INTO PRIVATIZATION
START TO DEVELOP THE PRIVATE SECTOR
BUT NONE OF THIS WAS POSSIBLE
WHY?
BECAUSE
THE MORONS FROZE THE GOVT
AND WITH A GOVT IN A FREEZE
THEY HAD NO MONEY TO DO ANY OFIT
OF IT
ONLY 20% OF THE 2010 BUDGET WAS EVER ISSUED
AND IRAQ HAD NOT MADE PAYMENTS TO THE IMF
ON THE BILLIONS THEY HAD ALREADY BORROWED
THAT IS WHY THE IMF WENT TO IRAQ A FEW MONTHS AGO
TO FIND OUT AND BE CONVINCED THAT IRAQ HAD AN ACTUAL PLAN TO PAY THEM BACK THE BILLIONS THEY BORROWED ON SHORT TERM LOANS
NOW THE IMF STATED LAST WEEK
THAT IRAQ HAD TO MOVE ON THE CURRENCY
AND IRAQ STATED THEY WERE GOING TO SO THEY COULD IMPROVE THEIR STATUS INTERNATIONAL
AND IN THE FUND
SONNY AND I THINK THEY PROMISED TO DO SO
AND BALKED ON IT AGAIN
AND THE IMF SAID ENOUGH
CALL US WHEN YOUR SERIOUS
CUZ YOUR NOT GETTING ONE MORE DIME
NOW IF THEY DON’T GET THE MONEY
ALL THEY HAVE IS THE MONEY FROM THE DFI
TO COVER THE EXPENSES OF THE GOVT
WHICH MEANS THEY DON’T HAVE SQUAT TO DO ANY INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES
NOT MOVE ON ECONOMIC REFORMS
NO PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT
NOW CBI SAID NO GOVT NO RV
YES THAT IS WHAT THEY SAID
BUT
CBI IS AUTONYMOUS
AND CAN REVALUE ANYTIME THEY DAMN WELL LIKE
THE ONLY REASON THEY WANTED TO PASS IT ON
IS RESPONSIBILITY
THEY WANTED TO CARRY THE BATON
TO JUST BEFORE FINISH LINE
THEN PASS IT ON
WHICH IS KINDA LAME
HE HAS STOOD HIS GROUND FOR 7 YEARS
DENYING ACCESS TO CBI ASSETS
NOW LISTEN TO ME
IF YOU THINK THAT 4 FRIGGN DAYS ARE GOING TO STOP THE REMOVAL OF 3 ZERO’S ON THE NOMINAL VALUE
WELL
I AM NOT GOING TO SAY WHAT IS REALLY ON MY MIND
BUT GET A GRIP
THAT IS ALL
MANY OF YOU ON HERE THAT ARE JUST RELENTLESS
ON THE WORRYING
HAVE JUST COME ON THE LAST MONTH
MAYBE IT IS BETTER TO GO READ AND LISTEN
OR THE THREE L’S
LOOK
LISTEN
LEARN
SOME ARE ACTING LIKE MY KIDA WHEN WE WENT ON A TRIP
5 MILES FROM THE HOUSE
DAD
ARE WE THERE YET
THAT IS WHAT SOME OF THIS SOUNDS LIKE
WELL NO WE AREN’T
BUT I AM DAMN CLOSE
SO LIKE I WOULD TELL THEM
SHUT UP SIT DOWN AND I WILL TELL YOU WHEN WE ARE THERE
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Yes your right he is asking Maliki to form the govt on the 25th.....he could very well already know who is going to be chosen for what position but we will have to see......we are still weeks if not a couple months away from any chance of a RV.......
Seriously why do you even post or come on to chat anymore. OK so you were wrong about the 2nd, of Nov. Boo Hoo, big deal get over it. You used to be such a nice person and I looked forward to your information on the dinar. Now it's to the point I click ignore on your name whenever I see you in chat because you offer absolutely nothing but negative remarks. Yea yea yea I can here you say I'm just keeping it real. What a bunch of crap. The only thing real you are keeping is a whiney attitude. Grow up and get a pair. We don't need rumors about what is going on we have the facts. More progress has been made in the last 2 weeks than has been made in 8 months. This is moving forward and moving fast. I guarantee I'm not the only person who is sick of your cry baby antics.
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mailman17 says to (21:53:55):
IF THE CENTRAL BANK GIVES 90 DAYS FOR THE 3 ZEROED NOTES TO BE TURNED IN…THATS ALL YOU GOT…90 DAYS
HAPPY…COUNT ON A DEADLINE…’
ITS IMPERATIVE TO THEIR M2
AND THEY ARE PROBABLY HOPING FOR SOME OF YOU TO WAIT
happyguy says to (21:55:44):
I’m not saying it’s impossible – I just don’t think we’re going to see a deadline.
mailman17 says to (21:56:04):
HAPPY…KUWAIT DID…
THE WHOLE KEY TO IRAQ SUCCEDDING IS TO GET THOSE NOTES TURNED IN…AND OVER TO THE GOVTS…PERIOD
THEY THEN WILL KNOW WHERE THEY STAND…CURRENCY WISE
IF THEY PLAN TO COME OUT AT 1.40…..90 DAYS LATER….THE ONLY ONES THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HAVING THE MAJORITY OF THE DIANR IS GOVTS
AND THEY WILL USE THEM FOR FOREIGN CURRENCY RESERVE
IRAQ CAN PRETTY MUSCH WIPE EM OFF THE BOOKS…
HAPPY…..DO WHAT YOU WANT….HOLD EM
THIS IS NOT NORMAL HAPPY
IRAQ HAS TO GIVE NOTICE…FIRST OF ALL
IF THEY PLAN ON RETIRING THE NOTES TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC
ONCE RETIRED…THOSE NOTES ARE NO LONGER DEEMED TRADEABLE CURRENCY BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC
KEY WORDS…GENERAL PUBLIC
BUSMAN..I DONT THINKTHEY HAVE 9 MILLION OUT
HIGH
DEPENDS ON WHO YOU BELIEVE
‘BANKS CANNOT RETIRE ANYTHING
LOL.BANKS.ONLY.RETIRE.USD.NOTTING.ESLE….HELLO
busman says to (22:01:39):
ok so it WON’t take them long to get 25k notes back…….
mailman17 says to (22:01:49):
BUSMNAN…EXACTLY
dinarham says to (22:02:07):
If Iraq wants to call in the high notes, an initially low rate is not the way to do it
mailman17 says to (22:02:33):
DINARHAM…ACTUALLY..THE LOWER THE BETTER
busery90 says to (22:03:02):
anyone know if the 30 days has started for Maliki to form a government have read some stuff that leads
mailman17 says to (22:03:19):
30 DAYS STARTED VETERANS DAY
TALABANI GAVE HIM THE NOD ON VETERANS DAY
butterfly says to (22:04:47):
he never needed 30 days even if it started Sunday….he has it done… it will be formed by the end of next week at the latest
mailman17 says to (22:04:55):
BF..CORRECT
dinarham says to (22:06:06):
Mailman, I agree to the extent that most small investors will cash in at a supposed lower rate, but we’re small potatoes
mailman17 says to (22:09:17):
DINARHAM…YES WE ARE SMALL POTATOES…LET ME SEE IF I CAN PUT THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR ALL OF YOU…AGAIN
GIMME THE FLOOR FOR A SEC
OK
LETS SAY IRAQ COMES OUT AT 86 CENTS…AND LETS SAY THAT RATE WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE US, UK, IMF ECT
NOW..WE ALL CASH IN AT 86 CENTS
NOW
90 DAYS LATER…THE MAJORITY OF OUR NOTES WHICH ARE MOSTLY 3 ZEROED ARE RETIRED
THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN HAVE THEM IN POSSESION ARE GOVTS AS PER AGREED UPON WITH IRAQ AND THE IMF
NOW…THE US TAKES 23% (roughly) in taxes
AND AFTER THE 90 DAYS…THE DINAR ALL OF A SUDDEN SHOOTS TO 3.00
DOES IRAQ HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT 3.00
NO
NOT THE US BOUT 1 TRILLION DINAR FROM, US FOR 1 TRILLION DOLLARS MINUS 230 BILLION IN TAXES
ITS NOW WORTH 3 TRILLION US
THEY TRIPLED THEIR MONEY ( FOREIGN CURRENCY RESERVE) BY JUST WAITING
AND 3 TRILLION DOLLARS COST THEM 750 BILLION DOLLARS
AND THEY DIDNT HAVE TO BAT AN EYE
NICE HUH?
NOT TO MENTION THE 4-5 TRILLION THEY ALREADY HAVE IN POSSESION THAT THEY PAID THE RATE 0F 4000-1 WHENI FIRST CAME OUT IN =2003
THATS 5-6 TRILLION DINAR…AT 3 DOLLARS PER DINAR EQUALLING15 TRILLION IN FOREIGN CURRENCY RESERVE
ENOUGH TO WIPE OUT THE FEDERAL NATION DEBT AND THEN SOME
SEE, THAT WASNT HARD TO FIGURE WHY IRAQ WAS SO IMPORTANT TO US AND WHY IT TOOK 7 YEARS TO GET TO THIS POINT
ALL DONE
Pug says to (22:16:48):
would it be smart to buy/exchange for lower denoms
mailman17 says to (22:17:01):
PUG..WONT BE THAT EASY
LOWER DENOMS MIGHT BE TOUGH TO GET OUT OF IRAQ
THINK ABOUT THAT NUMBER FOR AWHILE…LET IT SINK IN…15 TRILLION DOLLARS
dinarham says to (22:18:28):
Putting the money into the private sector would address the underlying problem of our economy,and economies world wide
mailman17 says to (22:18:37):
YEP
nugget says (22:18:35):
MMI7, here is what you said on Sept 17, so you are changing your mind???
mailman17 says to (22:19:05):
GO AHEAD NUGGET…WHAT DID I SAY
NUGGET…PLEASE REFRESH MY MEMORY…
YOU GONNA TRUST YOUR MONEY IN A FOREIGN BANK?
NO FDIC
BLmarine says to (22:20:59):
that was national bank of kuwait
mailman17 says to (22:21:09):
BUT CAN YOU LEAVE IT IN DINAR?
OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE CONVERTED INTO US
YOU PAID AT BEST $1000 PER MILLION
nugget says (22:22:19):
MM17, my copy and paste dosen’t work into chat but you and night were talking about how it easily could come in 3+, you said “the eoro and many other things need it at that right off the start”
mailman17 says
OH…OK…LET ME EXPLAIN THAT ONE…OK?
I REMEMBER NOW…LET ME EXPLAIN IN CHAT
CAN IRAQ GO TO 3?
SURE THEY CAN
BUT WILL THEY IS THE QUESTION
Pug says to (22:24:13): according to TK they can go to $8 LOL
ngsg says to (22:24:31): thats funny pug lmbo
mailman17 says
WITH THEM GOING TO FRACTION BANKING AND HAVING THEIR OIL AND GAS FUTURES AND GOLD TO BACK THAT UP…YES THEY CAN
BUT I DOUBT VERY MUCH THE IMF WILL ALLOW IT
HEY, DONT GET ME WRONG…I WOULD LOVE TO SEE 3.00
REALLY I W OULD
BUT THAT WOULD LEAVE NO ROOM FOR THE US TO TRIPLE THEIR MONEY
dinarham says to (22:26:07):
US is pressuring China about undervalued currency. If you can come out higher, but decide to come out lower, is that kosher?
mailman17 says to (22:26:24):
DINARHAM…IN IRAQS CASE…YES
IRAQ ISNT KILLING OUR ECONOMY LIKE CHINA IS
lmdinar says to (22:27:42):
but based on their oil reserves and gold and China’s ever increasing need for their oil, putting some dinar in a dinar account for three months and watching it on forex would be no different than other investments of that exchanged money..
mailman17 says
DO YOU THINK THE IMF HAS CONSIDERED THIS OPTION AND MAYBE PUT STIPS ON THAT?
NIGHT…GOT A QUESTION
DINAR BEING THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK
I WOULD THINK THOSE BANKS THAT ALLOW DINAR AS A CURRENCY AND ARE SUBJECT TO US LAWS
WOULD ALSO BE SOMEHOW TIED IN TOT HE 90 DAY PERIOD…
IN OTHERWORDS…YOU WOULD BE FORCE TO CASH IN AT THE RATE IT IS AT AT THE END OF THE 90 DAY PERIOD…PUTTING IT IN US CURRENCY
YES?
AND NOT BE ALLOWED AFTER THAT TO SPECULATE ON A HIGHER RATE IF IT GOES UP?
Nighthk11 says to (22:40:15):
That is very possible MM17- However why would you? You have surrendered the large bills as required by the rules- so if you decided to cancel the account they would have to give you lower denoms
If the currency is international- I don’t have to do that with my euro acct at NBK
If the euro rises in value- I take the benifit from that rise and report the income to irs
I view an account in dinar with NBK NYC the same as an IRA- you pay when you cash in
I mentioned this only as an option for those who want to pursue the investment further- It will require some investigation on your individual part- If the dinar should come out at >25 cents-I am all out
mailman17 says to (23:03:06):
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT EVERY SINGLE OPTION HAS BEEN DEALT WITH CONCERNING THE DINAR…ON EVERY LEVEL, ESPECIALLY THE BANKING LEVEL….AND ESPECIALLY WITH US LITTLE FISH IN THE SEA…
WE ARE MEANT TO MAKE WHAT THEY GIVE US AT CASH IN,,,NOTHING MORE…HOW YOU INVEST AFTER THAT IS YOUR OWN DEMISE
WE ARE NOT MEANT TO MAKE MORE THAN WHAT WAS PLANNED…PERIOD
JUST CASH IN…AND PUT IT IN SAFE INVESTMENTS…
Med says to (23:09:48):
AND I CAN’T BELIEVE THERE WERE ARGUMENTS
OVER THE BEST NEWS SO FAR
THAT WAS FORGOTTEN
SO WHAT ABOUT HOW MUCH ONE INSURES OR ONE DOESN’T
I COULD GIVE A RATS BEHIND
I JUST WANT AN RV
I WILL WORRY ABOUT THE REST LATER
I THOUGHT THAT IS WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT
AND WE ARE DELIVERING THAT INFO
WE ARE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE
LETS WIN THE RACE
AND THEN GET TESTED FOR STEROIDS AFTER
OH ONE THING
DID ANYONE READ THE LATEST ARTICLE
FROM THE MOF
ON THE REVALUE
reilly1 says to (23:14:08):
the one you emailed
Med says to (23:14:11):
YES
NOW THAT IS NOT DOCTORED
THE ONE I SENT TWO DAYS AGO
I HAD REMOVED THE SMOKE AND BS
NOW THIS ONE THAT CAME OUT FOR THE 20TH
HAD ALL THAT BS REMOVED
AND WAS MORE BLUNT
AND ALSO HAD THAT THE IMF WAS IN support
OF THE CHANGE OF THE DINAR
NOW TO ME
THAT IS NEWS
NEWS TO DISCUSS
NEWS TO REJOICE OVER
JRCivic says to (23:16:01):
This is the first time they have mentioned “enhancing the value of the Iraqi Dinar”
Med says to (23:16:05):
THAT IT HAS GONE FROM DISCUSSION
IN CBI
TO A RESOLUTION
AND THAT RESOLUTION OR DECISION
HAS GONE TO THE MOF
AND THEY AGREE
AND IT HAS MADE IT’S WAY TO THE IMF
AND THEY AGREE
I MEAN
HOW CAN ANYONE GET PISSY ON ANYTHING
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Med says to (00:17:17):
OK GANG
JUST A REMINDER
DURING ANY RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY IN IRAQ
NOTHING CAN BE DONE TO DETRACT FROM THE HOLIDAY
THERE CANNOT BE SOMETHING LIKE A MONETARY CHANGE
DURING THAT TIME
IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED BLASPHEMOUS
THE EARLIEST ANYTHING POSSIBLY COULD HAPPEN IS THE DAY AFTER THE EID
WHICH IS WHAT DAY
THE 21ST
SUNDAY
lgdevoll says to (00:19:21):
Eid began at sunset on Tuesday
Med says to (00:19:22):
RIGHT
YES
AND RUNS TILL THE 21ST OR THE 20TH
needrv says to (00:19:55):
their Sunday our Saturday night
Med says to (00:20:00):
YES
NOW THE AUCTIONS
HAVE BEEN VERY PROMISING
AND POINT TO ME
THAT SOMETHING IS AMISS
25/28 AUCTIONS
HAVE BEEN NO DINAR SALES
AND THE 3 THAT WERE
WERE SO MINIMAL
IT HARDLY REGISTERS
ME PERSONALLY
FULLY EXPECT THE CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE ZERO’S FROM THE NOMINAL RATE
AND I FEEL THAT WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING CHANCE OF IT BEING IN NOVEMBER
I CAN’T SAY ANYMORE
BUT I JUST DO
DON’T QUIT YOUR JOB
I SAID WHEN I KNOW FOR SURE
YOU WILL KNOW FIRST
AND I GAVE MY WORD ON THIS
WE ARE ALWAYS WORKING ALL THE TIME
TO FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON
NOT JUST FROM THE NEWS THAT IS IN THE MEDIA
AND WHEN WE ARE CERTAIN
WE WILL GIVE IT OUT
AND IT WILL ONLY BE TWO WORDS FROM ME
“CASH IN”
THAT IS IT
I AM EXTREMELY EXCITED
EXTREMELY
THAT IS ALL I HAVE
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mailman17 says to (08:16:20):
MALIKI WORK THROUGH THE HOLIDAY?….YOU BETCHAY HE WILL, IF HES SMART…
THINK OF IT THIS WAY
THE CABINET HE PUTS BEFORE THE PARLIMENT MUST REPRESENT ALL IRAQIS
ESPECIALLY WITH AN RV RIGHT BEHIND IT
ALLAWI WILL NEED ALL THE HELP HE CAN KEEPING AN EYE NOT ONLY ON MALII BUT THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS UNDER MALIKI
THAT CAN TAKE TIME, BUT I THINK HE IS ONLY 2 SPOTS AWAY FROM GOING BEFORE PARLIMENT
MAKES SENSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT
A REVALUED DINAR WITH PURCHASING POWER DOES WONDERS FOR THE DEPTS IN THE MINISTRY
MONEY FLOWS AND MUST BE MONITORED…AND IF YOU HAVE SOME SPOTS THAT ARE TRUSTWORTHY, IT MAKES ALLAWIS JOB A LITTLE EASIER
amishoutlaw says to (08:20:49):
it will also help with ch7, dfi and lock in new budget among several other things
mailman17 says to (08:21:39):
BINGO..THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT STATEMENT…AMISH, YOUR THINKING LIKE ME MORE AN MORE EACH DAY…SCARY, AINT IT?…
NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU WILL BE THROWING MAIL IN THE BUSHES..LOL
amishoutlaw says to (08:22:17):
mm along the lines of monitoring money… have been studying cabinat descisions from last yr or more….. they allowed maliki billions in currency to distribute….. never heard it was distributed to the war victims
mailman17 says to (08:22:36):
ME NEITHER
BUT..THE UN MOST LIKELY MONITORED THAT OR EVEN FROZE IT TILL THE FUTURE
DIDNT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE SPENDING OF IT, SINCE THE BUDGET STILL IS IN LIMBO
cwwilson says to (08:23:55):
who approves the budget? parliment?
amishoutlaw says to (08:23:57):
according to the cabinet decisions… he was alloted a few mill or bill each month mostly out of emergency funds..
mailman17 says to (08:24:03):
WE ARE STILL ON TRACK PEEPS..I GUARENTEE IT
RIGHT..AS PER UN REGS
THE THING I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IS THE FROZEN ASSETS RELEASED AND SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT…
IT SHOULD GO TO BACK THE DINAR
IT BETTER
amishoutlaw says to (08:25:15):
i agree…. mm right on track for an any moment BAM!!!
mailman17 says to (08:25:21):
I CANT SEE THE IMF DOING ANYTHING ELSE BUT THAT
AGREED..I AM NOT WORRIED IN THE LEAST…THE HARD PART OF THIS IS OVER..LITERALLY
amishoutlaw says to (08:25:59):
i havent thought about that too much mm but your thinkin makes good sense
mailman17 says to (08:26:03):
MALIKI WANTS THE PM
HE KNOWS HE CANT GET IT WITHOUT CONCESSIONS AND KNOWS THE KURDS, ALLAWI AND MAHDI HOLD HIS ACE
IT ALSO PROTECTS HIM FROM POSSIBLE FUTURE PROSECUTION
BUT
DONT BE SURPRISED IF HE RATS ON EVERYONE INVOLVED UNDER HIM
THAT VERY WELL COULD BE THE DEAL HE MADE TO STAY IN POWER BUT LIMITED
WE ARE STILL PLATINUM PEEPS…THE CLOCK STARTS WHEN MALIKI IS OFFICIALLY MAD PM AND HIS CABINET IS ACCEPTED…THEN ITS OFF THE THE RACES
BEFORE YOU ASK WHEN?…GO BY WHAT THE CBI SAID…
AS PER MEDS CHAT ALSO
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING FORMATION
OK…BBL..
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You're an Adult, you can do it if you want. If a $1000 won't make or break you, go for it. It's like placing a $1000 bet in Vegas (except a little better odds IMO) You know the risks, Do whatever you feel comfortable with.
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I'm just the opposite. Each day that goes by I get more and more excited with all the forward momentum. Every day we are closer, every day there is some more news for confirmation. THIS IS AWESOME. I LOVE ALL THE EXCITEMENT. We are going to be rich and that's a fact Jack. Peace Out
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This was my reply I posted on the GET site. I wonder how long it will last?
Is it to much to ask that just once in all this time being involved in the dinars that you would report accurate information. You would think that just by random chance you would have information that was true. But alas I guess that is not meant to be. My pity goes out to those poor souls who actually hang on your every word.
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That's how my dad got his citizenship back in WW2. Glad they are continuing the tradition.
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Mailman chat 7:45pm 11/14/10
mailman17 says to (19:49:42):
CAN I EXPLAIN SOMETHING SO TO PUT A LOT OF YOUR MINDS AT EASE?
LOOK BACK AT WHAT IT TOOK FOR US TO GET TO THIS POINT
18 BENCHMARKS
CONSTANT FEUDING
BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT FACTIONS
ALL TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW
THE END OF THIS RIDE
AND THAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN MALIKIS CABINET IS APPROVED( AND IF HES SMART, IT WILL CONSIST OF PEOPLE ALLAWI AND MAHDI AND THE KURDS APPROVE OF)
THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RV IS A VERY FRAGILE THING
AND MUST BE HANDLED DELICATELY….AS THE EFFECTS IS ON THE ENTIRE WORLD
SO UNFORTUNATELY IRAQI POLITICS HAD TO HAVE PLAYED A ROLE IN IT, AND THATS WHY THE UN AND IMF GOT SO PISSED
NOW…IF YOU RECALL…THE UN AND IMF GIVING IRAQ ULTIMATUMS
OF YOU ALSO RECALL…WE CALLED THOSE ULTIMATUMS FOR IRAQ TO FORM BY THE 14TH OF NOV…AND MALIKI EVEN HAD THE FEDERAL COURTS INTERVENE
NOW…AS IT WAS WRITTEN…PARLIMENT WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION…AND HAD TO GET THE POP, POR AND SPEAKER AND 2 MINISTERS NAMED BY THAT DATE…AND THEY DID..
HMMMM..WHODOFTHUNK
NOW..TALABANI TURNS HIS HEAD AND NODS TO MALIKI FORM…AND HE IS
NOW…THE MEETINGS THAT WENT ON PRIOR TO THIS…IE..ROUND TABLE ETC
WERE A MUCH NEEDED AND QUICKLY DONE AGREEMENT BY ALL THE BLOCKS
IMO..ALLAWI GOT WHAT HE WANTED…THE KURDS GOT WHAT THEY WANTED…AND MAHDI IS STILL SLEEPING..
SO WE MUST ALLOW MALIKI TO TAKE HIS 30 DAYS AND FORM…I PERSONALLY DONT THINK HE WILL TAKE THAT LONG
Dinarjunkie says to (19:58:01):
I read 2 weeks mm17
mailman17 says to (19:58:04):
NOW..WE KNOW THE CBI IS READY…PENDING REINSTATEMENT OF JABR AND SHABS…I SAY THAT CAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO QUALIFIED TO SEE THE RV TAKE OFF
IF THEY ARE NOT RE-INSTATED..I WILL BE VERY DISSAPOIONTED AS I CNAT NAME ONE DUMBASS OVER THERE WHO CAN SEE THIS THING OFF
DJ..THATS ABOUT RIGHT
THE RV…SHOULD COME VERY QUICKLY AFTER MALIKI IS MADE THE PM OF IRAQ OFFICIALLY
UNTIL THEN..WE WAIT….WE ARE GOOD AT IT…BUT THIS TIME…THE WAIT HAS A 30 DAY EXPIRATION DATE
I CAN LIVE WITH THAT
LATER
Roadrunner says to (20:00:05):
hopefully shortly after holiday
mailman17 says to (20:00:15):
YES.
ALL I AM SAYING IS THE END IS THE MOST FRAGILE PART…AND MUST BE HANDLED ACCORDING TO PLAN…SET BY IRAQ, THE UN THE IMF AND THE US,,,SO I WILL WAIT…
Med chat 11/14/10 9:40 pm
Med says to (21:41:54):
I ALSO SEE SOMETHING I LIKED
THE KURDS ARE FOLLOWING THE LISTS SUIT
MALIKI DID NOT PROVIDE THE GUARANTEE HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO
FOR THE 19 ITEMS
SO THEY TOLD HIM
IF HE DOES NOT THEY WALK ALSO
THAT WILL KILL ANY CHANCE OF MALIKI GETTING TO BE PM
NOW I AGAIN ONLY PUT THAT OUT
AS A POSSIBILITY
ALL THIS IS ABOUT
IS MAKING SURE HE DOESN’T PULL WHAT HE DID IN 05
THE ONLY WAY HE GETS IN IS THROUGH A UNIFIED VOTE FROM ALL THE BLOCS
BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE THE VOTES HE HAD LAST ELECTION
AND THIS GUY WILL NEED TO BE REMINDED OVER AND OVER
OF WHAT HE AGREED TO
IT SURE LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE NOT SITTING STILL
ON THE CHOOSING OF POSITIONS
thepainman says (21:46:37):
i was hoping they wouldn’t
THEY AREN’T
AND TO MAKE THE TWO WEEK FORMATION
THEY CAN’T
FOR ONCE
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM ACTUALLY WORK TO SPEED SOMETHING UP
BUT AFTER THE STRATEGY THEY USED ON EXPEDITING THIS GOVT
I SURE HOPE THEY DON’T DECIDE TO USE THAT AGAIN
I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE CONFIDENT
IN THE 2010 RV AS I AM NOW
I JUST DON’T SEE ALL THESE MEDIA REPORTS AND INTERVIEWS
BY SALEH AND SHABIBI
AND THEM EXPLAINING THAT THE DECISION IS MADE
AND THEY EVEN EXPLAIN WHY
PART IS TO MAKE THE PEOPLE FEEL GOOD
TO support THE ECONOMY
AND TO FACILITATE TRADE
WITH OTHER COUNTRIES
NOW THERE ARE OTHER ARTICLES IN THE FORUM
BUT I DISCUSSED WHAT I BELIEVE WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT
THANK YOU
ALL DONE
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quadraph0nic The reduction of the Smart Cards from 1250 to 250 is very old news. The fact they extended their use til the 15th is very curious. Scooter quote "They are farther ahead than I thought with the internals. The 15th is a very strong target date to watch"
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[scooter] When i first got into this investment -- I rant the technicals and thought to be lucky at .15
[scooter] it made sense and it would take decades of rebuilding
[scooter] I mean the budget itself shows a low ceiling, medium ceiling and and high ceiling
[scooter] so here's where it got interesting for me
[scooter] because I would still be happy at .25
[scooter] but
[scooter] when looking at the goals of the project
[scooter] my mindset changed a bit
[scooter] I mean -- if you were to open this bad boy up on the forex market today
[scooter] it would be looooooow
[scooter] .25
[scooter] and let it grow naturally
[scooter] however, the rules of engagement, IMO, are different
[scooter] The reasoning -- take it for what it's worth --- is the world bank DPL, IMF, and UN
[scooter] have set the PILLARS or Goals
[scooter] and the strategy has been centered around a "TRANCHE"
[scooter] a single or double economic explosion
[scooter] to help the people of iraq
[jordan1] Scooter how soon after the goi is formed do you realitically expect an rv? many say immediately i feel that is not probable , what do you think ?
[scooter] with that said
[scooter] jordon1 -- it won't be immediate
[scooter] but i don't think it will be far after either
[scooter] I think they need to be internatinally playing by end of year
[scooter] period
[scooter] I'm still trying figure out how they are getting out and surviving those derivative contracts
[scooter] those have expired -----
[scooter] Hey EE
[jordan1] Scooter what happened to isx going live , and all the oter timelines that have gone by ?
[scooter] How can they survive and purchase goods and services in this mode
[scooter] they can't
[scooter] but
[scooter] getting back to the strategy
[scooter] Remember, the goals
[scooter] 1. Help the people of Iraq get out of poverty -- it's criminal IMO for a country of this type of wealth
[scooter] to have so many uneducated kids and families living off of $2.00 a day
[scooter] The US back in 1990
[scooter] outsourced to Rand Corp.
[scooter] to build a plan
[scooter] that would transform the middle east
[scooter] and the way they were going to do this was through building the lifestyle for the people
[scooter] that's conducive to the rest of world
[scooter] with that said
[scooter] they also wanted to isolate Iran
[scooter] now
[scooter] getting back to point
[scooter] if the tranche strategy works
[scooter] They would need to come out with a new CPI
[scooter] Consumer Price Index
[scooter] which they have and it's ready right now
[scooter] This CPI is positioned really for the Mid tier type of deployment of this RV
[scooter] The 2010 Budget Law called the deal for me
[scooter] The investment portion is based on the nominal rate
[scooter] The nominal rate is the one we see right now
[scooter] The nominal rate is the one we see right now
[scooter] somewhere around there
[scooter] now
[scooter] this doesn't mean they will come out that high
[scooter] because they have a huge problem with the circulation that's out there
[scooter] so then the question becomes -- How would they deploy this RV to take care of that excess
[scooter] circulation of the 1000's series notes
[scooter] That's where it gets interesting
[scooter] and nobody -- i mean nobody knows
[scooter] so --- we have the Strategic Goals to build an economic powerhouse in the Middle East
[scooter] and they have been toying with a single Tranche or multi layered tranche
[scooter] so for example -- they may have multiple RV's over the next 18 -24 months
[scooter] it would make sense
[scooter] iraq would recover the large bills slowly and gradually get themselves to meet the new CPI they have built
[scooter] Also
[scooter] remember the secondary goals
[scooter] they need to be range trading with low volatility for at least a year in order to join the GCC
[scooter] that puts a timeline of being in the higher range by 2014
[scooter] With that said the model changes a bit
[scooter] starting out low --- below the .5 marker
[scooter] they would never make it in time
[scooter] so we crawl up the ladder using standard Fibronachi growth rules
[scooter] kind of like two steps forward and one step back
[scooter] bumping the number to 1.13 --- 1.45 -- plausible
[scooter] where the sweet spot comes in
[scooter] is the mid tier
[scooter] In fact, I was stunned when Phoenix came out with his rate
[scooter] because model moves nicely in the 1.65 - 2.25 range
[scooter] and then the 2010 budget law came out
[scooter] with the Bahraini Dinar at 2.55 and the investment portion at the nominal rate
[scooter] The average of the sum of both Operational and Investment budgets
[scooter] was 2.05
[scooter] That's when my head perked up
[scooter] but they still need to
[scooter] figure out what they are going to do with the circulation amount
[scooter] They will need to destroy every note in country immediately if they are to do this -- JMO
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Med:
I JUST GOT THIS NEWS
IT IS FROM BAGHDAD ITSELF
ONE OF MY FRIENDS JUST TALKED TO ME
AND EXPLAINED TO ME WHAT WAS ON THE WHATEVER THEY CALL THE TV IN IRAQ
ALSUMARIA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT
THERE IS AN AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE BETWEEN THE BLOCS
INCLUDING THE LIST
BUT
THE ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM
IS TRUST
WHICH HAS COME UP IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS
THEY HAVE 48 HRS TO DECIDE TO TRUST EACH OTHER
AND THE REASON THE MEETING WAS MOVED TO BAGHDAD
IS BECAUSE OF ALL THE VIOLENCE THAT HAS GONE ON THERE OF RECENT
THE PEOPLE ARE WORRIED AND ANGRY
THEY WANT TO ANNOUNCE IT IN BAGHDAD
WHERE IT IS THE WORST
HOPING IT WILL CALM THE MASSES
HE ALSO SAID IN HIS OPINION
FROM WHAT IS BEING RUMORED IN IRAQ
THAT AN RV WILL FOLLOW ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WHILE ALL ARE TOGETHER IN BAGHDAD
SO ALL CAN TAKE A PARTIAL CREDIT FOR IT
AND NOT ONE BLOC
THE PERSON I GOT THIS FROM IS AN IRAQI NATIONAL
WHO LOST EVERYTHING UNDER SADDAM
AND LIVES IN BAGHDAD
I HAVE NOT USED SOURCES FOR A LONG TIME
SINCE LAST DECEMBER
BUT I FELT THIS WAS IMPORTANT
AND IT COINCIDED
WITH SOME OF THE TIDBITS THAT WERE IN ARTICLES THIS MORNING
WHEN HE TOLD ME
IT HIT A NERVE
AND I REMEMBER PARTS OF WHAT HE WAS SAYING
SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE
OH ONE MORE THING
THEY ARE RUMORING SOMETHING ABOUT THE 15TH OF NOVEMBER
AND I DIDN’T GET IT ALL CLEARLY
Sorry didn't see it was already posted
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Med:
OK I NEED THE FLOOR
IF I DELETE AN ARTICLE
DO NOT KEEP REPOSTING IT
I AM NOT GOING TO LET THIS SITE BE PART OF THIS INSANITY IN IRAQ
IF THERE ARE 20 ARTICLES THAT SAY THERE IS AN AGREEMENT
I AM NOT GOING TO LET ONE ON THAT CREATES SUCH A STIR
I DON’T BELIEVE THE ARTICLE
AND THINK IT IS BS
I DON’T CARE THOUGH
I DON’T WANT IT ON
ON THE SAME PAGE
IT SAYS ON THERE THAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO FORM
I HAVE TO THINK OF THE MEMBERS
AND I AM TIRED OF THESE BS STORIES
I HAVE TO WEIGH THE FACTS
AND MAKE A DECISION
I APPRECIATE THAT EVERYONE SEARCHES
BUT THIS CREATED SUCH A PROBLEM
AND WE KNOW
THAT WE COULD HAVE 100 ARTICLES
THAT SAID YES
AND ONE THAT SAID NO
AND WE WOULD SPEND ALL DAY ON THAT ONE ARTICLE
AS WE DID
WELL ARE THERE ANY ?’S
402raptor:
you cleared it up for me thanks Med
Med says to (22:17:18):
I AM GLAD
I JUST DECIDED
NOT TO BE A PART OF THERE CRAZINESS
AND IF IT IS NOT FROM ALLAWI
OR THE SPEAKER FOR THE LIST
THEN IT IS NOT LEGIT
AND HE HAS NOT DENIED IT
DO YOU KNOW WHY
BECAUSE HE IS ON HIS WAY TO ERBIL
Mawbell:
do the swift screens mean anything? or just a preliminary for things to come? I’m confused
Med:
OF COURSE THEY DO
YOU DONT READ MY CHATS DO YOU HON
LOL
I WENT OVER ALL THIS IN CHAT
BUT WILL EXPLAIN AGAIN):
THE SWIFT SCREENS ARE HOW ALL INTERNATIONAL BANKS COMMUNICATE
THEY HAVE 3 OF THEM
ONE FOR TESTING
ONE FOR CURRENCIES THAT ARE IN ONE OF THREE POSITIONS
THE ONE WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS “LIVE”
THAT MEANS THAT THE CURRENCY FROM IRAQ IS NOW A TRADEABLE ONE
NO BANK NEEDS ONE
OR CENTRAL BANK NEEDS ONE
Med says to (22:22:02):
UNLESS THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE
SO IT IS HUGE NEWS
mawbell:
I have read your chats–thought they were supposed to go “live” today
Projoe:
so what will allawi get if they have power sharing it wont be the pm position malilki has made that clear will he have any power at all?
Med:
THEY DID
UGGHHH
OK I WILL GO OVER THAT AGAIN
ALLAWI’S LIST GOT THE PRESDENT OF PARLIAMENT
AND THAT ALL DECISIONS
MUST BE AGREED UPON BY THE LIST ALSO
AND IN REALITY
THE POP IS THE 2ND MOST POWERFUL POSITION IN THE GOVT
THE POR IS NOTHING MORE THAN BEING THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND
OR THE VP OF THE U.S.
IT IS LIKE THE BACKUP QB ON A FB TEAM
CARRY THE CLIP BOARD
BUT NEVER PLAY
Projoe:
well at least he got something then
Med:
IT IS MORE THAN SOMETHING
BEING AN OVERSIGHT AND A ROLE IN THE DECISIONS
IS HUGE
I AM SURE THERE IS MORE
jonmac:
reduction of power of the PM, more power-sharing?
Med
AS IN THE MINISTRIES
YES JONMAC
MALIKI IS NOT SMART ENOUGH
TO RUN A COUNTRY ON HIS OWN
antyspot:
Hello Med it has been a long time and this is about the best news I have heard in over a year
Med
IT IS GOOD NEWS
THERE THOUGH HAS BEEN ALLOT OF POSITIVES FROM CBI THOUGH
AND IT IS FUNNY
THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE TO WAIT FOR CBI
INSTEAD IT IS CBI THAT IS WAITING):
I WANT TO ASK THIS
IS IT ANY SECRET TO ANYONE
WHAT CBI’S INTENTIONS ARE
REALLY
A bunch of folks replying No
Med: THEY HAVE COME OUTRIGHT AND STATED IT
projoe: nope especially since the swift screen news came out
Med:
EXCELLENT
I AM ABOVE CONFIDENT
ON THE OUTCOME
Med chat 11/6/2010 @ 10:30 pm EST
Med:
HEY ALL
OK I JUST TALKED TO SONNY
ON THE PHONE
FIRST OFF
DID I MISS SOME NEWS
BEFORE I RUN OFF
SO BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING
WHAT IS THE NEWS
ON THE GOVT
I HAVE SOME
BUT WANT TO KNOW IF I EVEN NEED TO DISCUSS IT
DON’T ALL JUMP IN
AT ONCE
butterfly:
still not sure lol
there was a blog post tho tht said some have defected
but no articles to back it up
Med:
OK SONNY CALLED ME ABOUT THE ARTICLE
THAT SAID IT WAS ALL A LIE
NOW THIS HAS BEEN ON CNN ABC AND FOX
SONNY SAID THEY EVEN DID AN INTERVIEW ON FOX
I HEARD IT ON IRNUSA RADIO
WAS THERE MORE THAN ONE ARTICLE THAT DENIED IT
butterfly:
i think
let me scan real fast
Med:
OK
HE SAID IT SAID THE BLOC HEADS WERE MEETING TOMORROW IN ERBIL
butterfly:
i see two justnow
Med:
TO FINALIZE
ONE BAD THING IS TOO MANY OF THESE FOOLS CALL THE MEDIA
butterfly:
they just are all back and forth in there rightnow, one article say they agree, others say they dont. typical
Med:
YOU HAVE 325 MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT BUT 1000 PEOPLE CALL THE MEDIA
YES IT IS
THE ONLY ONE WAY TO BE SURE OF ANYTHING
IS WAIT TILL THURSDAY
IF THEY MEET AND VOTE
FINE
IF NOT
ONE THING THAT MIFFS ME
IS THE ZEBARI ARTICLE
DISCUSSING REMOVAL FROM CHAPTER VII
WHEN OBAMA SAID FORGET IT IF THEY DON’T SETTLE IT
NOW THE UNSC MEETS ON IRAQ ON TUESDAY
REQUESTED BY THE FRENCH GOVT
BUT I THINK THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE THREAT TO CHRISTIANS IN IRAQ
THEY WERE UPSET OVER IT
HOW DO YOU CONTACT THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA
AND HAVE INTERVIEWS
IT IS ON ALL OUR NEWS NETWORKS AND RADIO
THEN IT IS SUPPOSE TO BE A LIE
SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN’T BE TOLERATED
AND THEY CAN’T BE DRAGGING THE U.S. MEDIA INTO THE
HOLD PHONE
OK SONNY IS READING ME THE ARTICLE
THAT DENIES IT
AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE
IT SAYS THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT
AND ARE MEETING IN IRBIL TO SETTLE IT
AND THIS ARTICLE IS NOT FROM ALLAWI
SOME MP WHO I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF
OK I HAVE TO GO TO THE FORUM
Got-UR-back dino:
seems the agreement is conditional and the media reported it being done before conditions were met and Allawi was not happy about it. maybe.
Med:
OK STOP
FIRST OFF THERE IS NO LINK TO THE ARTICLE
PLEASE WHOEVER POSTED IT
PUT IT ON THERE
OR DELETE IT
AND THE INFO FROM THE LIST DEFECTING
IS A BLOG
SO IT MEANS SQUAT
THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY ARTICLES THAT IT IS SETTLED
AND SONNY JUST READ OFF ALL THE U.S. MEDIA OUTLETS THAT CARRIED THE STORY
AND NOT ONE DENIAL CAME FROM ALLAWI
DON’T YOU ALL THINK THAT THE LEADER OF THE PARTY
WOULD MAKE THE DENIAL AND NOT SOME GUY NOONE HAS EVER HEARD OF
I PERSONALLY THINK IT IS DONE
AND THERE IS AN AGREEMENT
402raptor:
way to go Med “debunked”
Med:
TY RAPTOR
IT JUST TAKES A BIT OF RESEARCH
projoe:
why do they put out articles that say the oposite what do they get out of it
Med:
AND A FEW PHONE CALLS
IT IS TO DISRUPT
butterfly:
i kept deleting the blog one
is there another?
Med:
THERE WERE SEVERAL ARTICLES
THAT CAME OUT
ASKING MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT WHO WERE NOT INVOLVED IN NEGOTIATIONS
TO SHUT THE H*LL UP
AND THEY HAVEN’T
YOU HAVE ALLOT OF HATE IN HERE
AND ALLOT OF PREDJUDICE BETWEEN THE SECTS
AND SOME WISH TO STIR THE POT
SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THE MATTER
UNLESS ALLAWI COMES OUT AND SAYS IT IS FALSE
THEN IT IS A DONE DEAL
I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE ARTICLE OR AN ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE OFFICIAL SPEAKER FOR THE LIST
I AM SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR ME TO GET THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT
Med chat 11/6/2010 @ 7 pm EST
B Man:
Just read the post Iraq denies consent of pres M. Does that mean the people don’t want it?
butterfly:
i just saw a post of his sayin that he got a phone call that obama had given the kurds an ultimatum and stuff, i am like…. uh, OLD NEWS pal
Med:
B MAN
WHAT IS THAT YOU SAID
AND IF YOU READ IT
POST IT
SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT
YESTERDAY I SPENT 30 MINUTES
TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO SPIT OUT SOMETHING
HONESTLY IF I CAN’T SEE THE ENTIRE ARTICLE
butterfly:
its allawi not agreeing to maliki still
Med:
OH REALLY
SO THEY NOW ARE DENYING
AN AGREEMENT
THAT WAS ON NATIONAL NEWS
HERE IN THE U.S.
butterfly:
http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt…t-confirmed-it
there you go
Med:
JUST FXXKLDFJAL;FJGL;JAG;LJAG;AGJING GREAT
Med says to (18:02:35):
busman:
one minute one thing, the next another
alphonse43:
that would be article # 10, 20, 30? on the same subject
Med:
OK
NO THERE ARE TOO MANY WHO ARE REPORTING IT
busman:
med, could this be the propaganda, you have always warned us about
Med:
AND THE ONE IS THE ACTUAL SPEAKER FOR THE LIST
NOW WHEN THE ARTICLE CAME OUT EARLIER
I CAN’T REMEMBER
BUT WAS IT ALLAWI WHO GAVE THE STATEMENT
OR WAS IT SOMEONE FROM THE RULE OF LAW
NOW I KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN SPREAD AROUND THE WORLD
THAT IT IS SETTLED
BUT THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE GIVING THESE REPORTS AS LIES
ARE TOP DEPUTIES
IN THE LIST
ME PERSONALLY KNOWING THE PEOPLE IN THAT ARTICLE
SAY THERE IS NO AGREEMENT
AND IT WAS BS
SORRY GANG
BUT
butterfly:
there is one saying that the nassif is gonna be pres instead of allawi
Med:
THAT IS MY OPINION
YES
I DON’T THINK ALLAWI WANTS TO BE POP
butterfly:
so allawi will just totally be out of it
i guess
Med:
YES
butterfly:
that sucks for him
Med:
HE WANTED THE POR
butterfly:
and the people that wanted him
Med:
BUT THERE IS NO WAY TO COMPARE THE OR EQUALIZE
DAYSTAR:
thatsa shame, medic I think he is a good man
Med:
A SPEAKER IN PARLIAMENT
TO THE PM
IT IS DS
SEE IN THE U.S.
WE VOTE OUT PEOPLE WHO STEAL AND ARE INEFFECTIVE
THEY REELECT THEM
WELL HELLS BELLS
I DIDN’T WANT TO FEEL THAT GOOD ALL DAY ANYWAYS
alphonse43:
take it with a grain of salt
Med:
I ALWAYS DO
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