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I was thinking about writing a novel about what might happen if a man who hates America and wants to bring it down is somehow elected president. What would he do?

I sketched out a few plot elements, and you can decide whether this will fly.

First, the Trojan Horse president would initiate unprecedented spending, driving the national debt up by more than $4 trillion dollars just in the first three years.

He would ram through an unreadable law allowing the federal government to seize the health care system, which would transform citizens into beholden subjects.

He would cut out private lenders and federalize student loans.

He would go on a world apology tour, letting America’s friends and foes know that he is doing whatever he can to make sure that America becomes a third-rate power and is brought to heel under a growing world government headed by the United Nations. While on the tour, he would praise Islam and denigrate America’s Christian heritage.

He would cripple America’s ability to be energy independent by halting new drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and off the coast of Alaska – even projects that had already undergone years of research and approval. While promoting oil drilling by Brazil and other foreign countries, he would halt a pipeline from Canada’s oil tar sands that could create 20,000 U.S. jobs and reduce dependence on Middle Eastern oil.

He would waste billions on “new” sources of energy that don’t have a prayer of sustaining America’s vast industrial and service industries. This means windmills, solar farms and acres of cages full of hamsters on wheels that generate electricity.

He would appoint a totalitarian-minded director of the Environmental Protection Agency to use global warming hysteria to create carbon rules to shut down or bankrupt coal-burning electric plants and to shackle manufacturers with hundreds of new regulations.

He would essentially end the space program, a main driver of America’s computer and other high tech industries. He would first order NASA to “reach out” to Muslim nations.

He would hollow out the military by killing new weapons, reducing forces and letting our foes know exactly when America is leaving the field of battle, regardless of conditions.

To complete the job of destroying morale, he would orchestrate, with leaks and stacked surveys, an end to the military’s moral code that has been in existence since the nation’s founding. He would brook no commander who held strong moral views, and would appoint spineless bureaucrats to facilitate the new sexually androgynous armed forces.

He would alienate European allies like Poland by yanking away a missile defense system after they had already committed to it and risked the wrath of neighboring Russia.

He would send his secretary of state around the world to promote abortion, homosexuality and anti-blasphemy dictums that stifle criticism of Sharia.

He would use the Justice Department to undermine the rule of law. Here are some ways he could do that:

--Attempt to close down the Guantanamo Bay military prison and bring terrorist suspects into U.S. civil courts where they can claim constitutional immunities.

--Reignite racial animosity by dropping voter intimidation charges against radicals such as the New Black Panther Party thugs outside a Philadelphia polling place.

--Order his attorney general to flout the Constitution’s requirement to “take care that the Laws be faithfully executed” by announcing that the administration will no longer defend the federal Defense of Marriage Act. While doing this, he would play coy with the media about his “evolving” views on same-sex “marriage” and facilitate homosexual activists’ other key goals, such as a federal hate crimes law.

--Have the civil rights enforcement staff ignore voter fraud allegations by citizens who happen to be white.

--Ignore blatant violations by “sanctuary cities” while suing Arizona and threatening other states that dare to enforce federal laws against illegal immigration.

--Threaten states that tighten laws against voter fraud, such as requiring a photo ID. Without evidence, accuse them of trying to “suppress” the minority vote.

-Ship hundreds of taxpayer-purchased firearms to Mexican drug gangs in order to frame law- abiding gun sellers in Texas. When the “Fast and Furious” weapons are used to kill U.S. and Mexican lawmen, the attorney general will pretend he didn’t know about the program until very recently and is shocked, shocked! The attorney general will claim that critics of this criminally insane policy are motivated by racial animus against him and the president. After all, this worked when anyone questioned why the president’s college and medical records were sealed, or why he attended a Marxist reverend’s church for 20 years and hung out with known terrorists.

He would appoint Supreme Court justices who believe in a “living Constitution,” which means they can ignore its plain meaning when it interferes with their ideological agenda.

He would stack the National Labor Relations Board with union hacks who will do unspeakable things such as order a major company (Boeing) not to open a new factory in a right-to-work state (South Carolina) in the middle of the worst recession since the Great Depression. If he got away with that, he would go ahead and strengthen a crony socialist system reminiscent of Mussolini’s fascist Italy or Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela that subsidizes “winners” such as Solyndra.

Finally, throughout his tenure, he would employ the Marxist rhetoric of class warfare, blame “the wealthy” and make more Americans dependent on government checks. He would sucker Republican leaders into secret meetings and emerge to accuse them of wanting to raise taxes on all but the rich.

As I began to flesh out this novel, I decided it was a waste of time. Good fiction has to ring true to life, and the hamster part just won’t wash.

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It sounds familiar. Change it to a bibliography and call it "America's Nightmare", "The Death of a Nation", "As the People Slept", "How to Kill a Constitution", "Shining City on a Hill Goes Dark", "End of the American Dream" or "How Obama Murdered America". No, really, I'm serious!

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Don't forget the footnotes Trusty......I'm sure I have read most of that stuff before. Many, many times actually. :lol:

GO RV, then BV

Naw personally I don't think you can read. :D

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Naw personally I don't think you can read. :D

rtrusty ... I don't personally think there is any problem with all this that has anything to do with not being able to read ... what I find objectionable are those who cannot reason ... for themselves.

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my fault ... should have looked to see who posted before thinking this might be something of interest

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I was thinking about writing a novel about what might happen if a man who hates America and wants to bring it down is somehow elected president. What would he do?

I sketched out a few plot elements, and you can decide whether this will fly.

First, the Trojan Horse president would initiate unprecedented spending, driving the national debt up by more than $4 trillion dollars just in the first three years.

He would ram through an unreadable law allowing the federal government to seize the health care system, which would transform citizens into beholden subjects.

He would cut out private lenders and federalize student loans.

He would go on a world apology tour, letting America’s friends and foes know that he is doing whatever he can to make sure that America becomes a third-rate power and is brought to heel under a growing world government headed by the United Nations. While on the tour, he would praise Islam and denigrate America’s Christian heritage.

He would cripple America’s ability to be energy independent by halting new drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and off the coast of Alaska – even projects that had already undergone years of research and approval. While promoting oil drilling by Brazil and other foreign countries, he would halt a pipeline from Canada’s oil tar sands that could create 20,000 U.S. jobs and reduce dependence on Middle Eastern oil.

Good post, so many people that don't know what's going on won't undersatnd this!!! For those people I would have added that this is Mr. Obama 100%, If you don't think so you better wake up!!! Soon you won't have a country....enough said...God bless America!!!

He would waste billions on “new” sources of energy that don’t have a prayer of sustaining America’s vast industrial and service industries. This means windmills, solar farms and acres of cages full of hamsters on wheels that generate electricity.

He would appoint a totalitarian-minded director of the Environmental Protection Agency to use global warming hysteria to create carbon rules to shut down or bankrupt coal-burning electric plants and to shackle manufacturers with hundreds of new regulations.

He would essentially end the space program, a main driver of America’s computer and other high tech industries. He would first order NASA to “reach out” to Muslim nations.

He would hollow out the military by killing new weapons, reducing forces and letting our foes know exactly when America is leaving the field of battle, regardless of conditions.

To complete the job of destroying morale, he would orchestrate, with leaks and stacked surveys, an end to the military’s moral code that has been in existence since the nation’s founding. He would brook no commander who held strong moral views, and would appoint spineless bureaucrats to facilitate the new sexually androgynous armed forces.

He would alienate European allies like Poland by yanking away a missile defense system after they had already committed to it and risked the wrath of neighboring Russia.

He would send his secretary of state around the world to promote abortion, homosexuality and anti-blasphemy dictums that stifle criticism of Sharia.

He would use the Justice Department to undermine the rule of law. Here are some ways he could do that:

--Attempt to close down the Guantanamo Bay military prison and bring terrorist suspects into U.S. civil courts where they can claim constitutional immunities.

--Reignite racial animosity by dropping voter intimidation charges against radicals such as the New Black Panther Party thugs outside a Philadelphia polling place.

--Order his attorney general to flout the Constitution’s requirement to “take care that the Laws be faithfully executed” by announcing that the administration will no longer defend the federal Defense of Marriage Act. While doing this, he would play coy with the media about his “evolving” views on same-sex “marriage” and facilitate homosexual activists’ other key goals, such as a federal hate crimes law.

--Have the civil rights enforcement staff ignore voter fraud allegations by citizens who happen to be white.

--Ignore blatant violations by “sanctuary cities” while suing Arizona and threatening other states that dare to enforce federal laws against illegal immigration.

--Threaten states that tighten laws against voter fraud, such as requiring a photo ID. Without evidence, accuse them of trying to “suppress” the minority vote.

-Ship hundreds of taxpayer-purchased firearms to Mexican drug gangs in order to frame law- abiding gun sellers in Texas. When the “Fast and Furious” weapons are used to kill U.S. and Mexican lawmen, the attorney general will pretend he didn’t know about the program until very recently and is shocked, shocked! The attorney general will claim that critics of this criminally insane policy are motivated by racial animus against him and the president. After all, this worked when anyone questioned why the president’s college and medical records were sealed, or why he attended a Marxist reverend’s church for 20 years and hung out with known terrorists.

He would appoint Supreme Court justices who believe in a “living Constitution,” which means they can ignore its plain meaning when it interferes with their ideological agenda.

He would stack the National Labor Relations Board with union hacks who will do unspeakable things such as order a major company (Boeing) not to open a new factory in a right-to-work state (South Carolina) in the middle of the worst recession since the Great Depression. If he got away with that, he would go ahead and strengthen a crony socialist system reminiscent of Mussolini’s fascist Italy or Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela that subsidizes “winners” such as Solyndra.

Finally, throughout his tenure, he would employ the Marxist rhetoric of class warfare, blame “the wealthy” and make more Americans dependent on government checks. He would sucker Republican leaders into secret meetings and emerge to accuse them of wanting to raise taxes on all but the rich.

As I began to flesh out this novel, I decided it was a waste of time. Good fiction has to ring true to life, and the hamster part just won’t wash.

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It sounds familiar. Change it to a bibliography and call it "America's Nightmare", "The Death of a Nation", "As the People Slept", "How to Kill a Constitution", "Shining City on a Hill Goes Dark", "End of the American Dream" or "How Obama Murdered America". No, really, I'm serious!

He can call it whatever he wants, but when it gets published you'll have to look for it in the "Fiction" and/or "Comedy" section.

Surely won't be factual enough to be in the "Reference" area and won't be relevant enough to be in the "Current Events"

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In the end, he would be.......our president. And the truly pathetic thing is that much of this nation applauds as he tears down our institutions, our constitution, and our freedoms. Morons.

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In the end, he would be.......our president. And the truly pathetic thing is that much of this nation applauds as he tears down our institutions, our constitution, and our freedoms. Morons.

Yes he is our President! And the worst part is.... there is about 20% of our population that feel its acceptable to tell any lie, make up any post, create any misinformation they think will help their cause. That is what is truly PATHETIC! And I'll end here without the name calling!

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my fault ... should have looked to see who posted before thinking this might be something of interest

Like your somebody?

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Yes he is our President! And the worst part is.... there is about 20% of our population that feel its acceptable to tell any lie, make up any post, create any misinformation they think will help their cause. That is what is truly PATHETIC! And I'll end here without the name calling!

Please feel free to disprove anything in the OP. As I read it, everything in it is undeniable FACTS, unless you can truly prove otherwise. I really am interested in what you think is made up.

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Please feel free to disprove anything in the OP. As I read it, everything in it is undeniable FACTS, unless you can truly prove otherwise. I really am interested in what you think is made up.

Number 1:

He would cripple America’s ability to be energy independent by halting new drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and off the coast of Alaska – even projects that had already undergone years of research and approval.

Obama never stopped drilling in the gulf, and as a matter of fact, has approved more permits allowing drilling in the gulf. There was a temporary moritorium on ‘deepwater drilling’ which has been lifted and permitting continues.

http://www.bsee.gov/...ll-Permits.aspx

Look at the counts of New Wells approved over to the far right, and then tell me he’s stopped drilling in the gulf!

Number 2:

While promoting oil drilling by Brazil and other foreign countries,

Ummmm.... here’s the website for the Brazilian loan from the US Import Export Bank that shows this loan was approved by the board of directors that were appointed by George W. Bush and that this loan creates AMERICAN jobs. So that one has been killed numerous times!

http://www.exim.gov/...trobasfacts.cfm

Number 3:

Order his attorney general to flout the Constitution’s requirement to “take care that the Laws be faithfully executed” by announcing that the administration will no longer defend the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

Seems President Obama isn’t the first, and won’t be the last, to have his Justice Department not support a law passed by Congress. Hmmmm.... some of the names on the list: George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Ronald Regan! Wow, those Communists!!!!

http://volokh.com/20...constitutional/

Ok there are three in about 15 - 20 minutes of google! How much of this complete crap would you like me to prove wrong!?

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He would cut out private lenders and federalize student loans.

Ummmmm.... the changes to the federal student loan program only take the private banks out of the mix as the "middleman". All student loans have been backed by the Federal Government. By taking out the private banks as the middleman, the Federal Government is expected to save $68 Billion over the next decade! $6.8 Billion a year saved from your tax dollars being wasted. Seems to be much larger than the $35 million to be saved by House Speaker John Boehner's cuts to Congressional staff passed in 2011. Even I can handle that math!

From the link:

he Office of Management and Budget (OMB) under both Presidents Bush and Obama, the Government Accountability Office, and CBO have all concluded that the DL program is more efficient from the perspective of taxpayers because it provides essentially the same loans at lower taxpayer cost. The legislation would end FFEL and rely on the DL program to provide all taxpayer-subsidized student loans. This would save $68 billion in mandatory spending over the 2010-2020 period, according to CBO.

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I thought you guys were all for reducing spending! What happened, choke on your Tea Bags?

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Kiteman, I asked a simple question. You have provided a bit of information I am willing to look through as it is new info for me to look at and decipher. The problem I'm having is your freaking attitude. Lose the attitude and feel comfortable in your contribution to someone willing to have an open mind to look at all info from different angles. I really can do without the sarcastic remarks.(ex: "What happened, choke on your Tea Bags?") It really does take away from any legitimacy you bring to the discussion. I can bring counter links to yours and just as much sarcasm, but what would that bring us? I am only trying to find real information. That's why I ask you to prove what I saw as facts from what I've seen. Until shown something different, I can only go from what I have seen. Let's try to have an adult dialogue. Are you game?

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Kiteman, I asked a simple question. You have provided a bit of information I am willing to look through as it is new info for me to look at and decipher. The problem I'm having is your freaking attitude. Lose the attitude and feel comfortable in your contribution to someone willing to have an open mind to look at all info from different angles. I really can do without the sarcastic remarks.(ex: "What happened, choke on your Tea Bags?") It really does take away from any legitimacy you bring to the discussion. I can bring counter links to yours and just as much sarcasm, but what would that bring us? I am only trying to find real information. That's why I ask you to prove what I saw as facts from what I've seen. Until shown something different, I can only go from what I have seen. Let's try to have an adult dialogue. Are you game?

Understood and admonishment taken! (If they had a "humbled" face on here, I'd insert it here!)

Please review the links and let me know what you think. I'll try to keep the sarcasm and the mockery to a lower level.

Just get frustrated sometimes with all the BS posted and a lot of the attitude from the so called "Tea Party".

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I was thinking about writing a novel about what might happen if a man who hates America and wants to bring it down is somehow elected president. What would he do?

I sketched out a few plot elements, and you can decide whether this will fly.

First, the Trojan Horse president would initiate unprecedented spending, driving the national debt up by more than $4 trillion dollars just in the first three years.

He would ram through an unreadable law allowing the federal government to seize the health care system, which would transform citizens into beholden subjects.

He would cut out private lenders and federalize student loans.

He would go on a world apology tour, letting America’s friends and foes know that he is doing whatever he can to make sure that America becomes a third-rate power and is brought to heel under a growing world government headed by the United Nations. While on the tour, he would praise Islam and denigrate America’s Christian heritage.

He would cripple America’s ability to be energy independent by halting new drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and off the coast of Alaska – even projects that had already undergone years of research and approval. While promoting oil drilling by Brazil and other foreign countries, he would halt a pipeline from Canada’s oil tar sands that could create 20,000 U.S. jobs and reduce dependence on Middle Eastern oil.

He would waste billions on “new” sources of energy that don’t have a prayer of sustaining America’s vast industrial and service industries. This means windmills, solar farms and acres of cages full of hamsters on wheels that generate electricity.

He would appoint a totalitarian-minded director of the Environmental Protection Agency to use global warming hysteria to create carbon rules to shut down or bankrupt coal-burning electric plants and to shackle manufacturers with hundreds of new regulations.

He would essentially end the space program, a main driver of America’s computer and other high tech industries. He would first order NASA to “reach out” to Muslim nations.

He would hollow out the military by killing new weapons, reducing forces and letting our foes know exactly when America is leaving the field of battle, regardless of conditions.

To complete the job of destroying morale, he would orchestrate, with leaks and stacked surveys, an end to the military’s moral code that has been in existence since the nation’s founding. He would brook no commander who held strong moral views, and would appoint spineless bureaucrats to facilitate the new sexually androgynous armed forces.

He would alienate European allies like Poland by yanking away a missile defense system after they had already committed to it and risked the wrath of neighboring Russia.

He would send his secretary of state around the world to promote abortion, homosexuality and anti-blasphemy dictums that stifle criticism of Sharia.

He would use the Justice Department to undermine the rule of law. Here are some ways he could do that:

--Attempt to close down the Guantanamo Bay military prison and bring terrorist suspects into U.S. civil courts where they can claim constitutional immunities.

--Reignite racial animosity by dropping voter intimidation charges against radicals such as the New Black Panther Party thugs outside a Philadelphia polling place.

--Order his attorney general to flout the Constitution’s requirement to “take care that the Laws be faithfully executed” by announcing that the administration will no longer defend the federal Defense of Marriage Act. While doing this, he would play coy with the media about his “evolving” views on same-sex “marriage” and facilitate homosexual activists’ other key goals, such as a federal hate crimes law.

--Have the civil rights enforcement staff ignore voter fraud allegations by citizens who happen to be white.

--Ignore blatant violations by “sanctuary cities” while suing Arizona and threatening other states that dare to enforce federal laws against illegal immigration.

--Threaten states that tighten laws against voter fraud, such as requiring a photo ID. Without evidence, accuse them of trying to “suppress” the minority vote.

-Ship hundreds of taxpayer-purchased firearms to Mexican drug gangs in order to frame law- abiding gun sellers in Texas. When the “Fast and Furious” weapons are used to kill U.S. and Mexican lawmen, the attorney general will pretend he didn’t know about the program until very recently and is shocked, shocked! The attorney general will claim that critics of this criminally insane policy are motivated by racial animus against him and the president. After all, this worked when anyone questioned why the president’s college and medical records were sealed, or why he attended a Marxist reverend’s church for 20 years and hung out with known terrorists.

He would appoint Supreme Court justices who believe in a “living Constitution,” which means they can ignore its plain meaning when it interferes with their ideological agenda.

He would stack the National Labor Relations Board with union hacks who will do unspeakable things such as order a major company (Boeing) not to open a new factory in a right-to-work state (South Carolina) in the middle of the worst recession since the Great Depression. If he got away with that, he would go ahead and strengthen a crony socialist system reminiscent of Mussolini’s fascist Italy or Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela that subsidizes “winners” such as Solyndra.

Finally, throughout his tenure, he would employ the Marxist rhetoric of class warfare, blame “the wealthy” and make more Americans dependent on government checks. He would sucker Republican leaders into secret meetings and emerge to accuse them of wanting to raise taxes on all but the rich.

As I began to flesh out this novel, I decided it was a waste of time. Good fiction has to ring true to life, and the hamster part just won’t wash.

I pray that he is a one term president. He is unintelligent, spineless, a socialist, a Muslim, unpatriotic. He is taking the country down. He need to simply step aside and let Biden run everything then the obstacle will be removed. We are not really upset because of his policies, we are furious because of the man, because of what we see. I, for one, would like to join you in your rant but I refuse to blame the president for policies that could not be fully implemented because of my party's intransigence. No matter what we do, we will elect someone so we can criticize. Take a Valium you do not understand political cycles. It is the season for this, there will be a season for what you like. The man in the white house means NOTHING. Do you think George Bush is capable of master minding the whole currency manipulation which is about to save the world financial affairs? The answer is NO. He was just following orders to complete a task (part of a puzzle).

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Like your somebody?

Well, yeah, I am ... but I admit ... not up to your standard ... you ... somebody you!

You DO realize the only thing that makes you anybody is that you stooped low enough to make a comment on my comment, don't you? huh?

:)

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