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Matt was politely escorted to the door, along with his many alias's. There wasn't a sniffle among us. Sorry no matt to wipe your feet, but hey he will come back as wideeyes55 or something like that. :D

Look for : abusedbutright, jealousbecauseimcute, misunderstoodagain, imbrillianturnot, allawisbff, carrellostartedit, itsherfault B)

Ni night Matt (Chuckie13, is that you?)

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de·gen·er·ate

   [v. dih-jen-uh-reyt; adj., n. dih-jen-er-it] Show IPA verb, -at·ed, -at·ing, adjective, noun

verb (used without object)

1.

to fall below a normal or desirable level in physical, mental, or moral qualities; deteriorate: The morale of the soldiers degenerated, and they were unable to fight.

2.

to diminish in quality, especially from a former state of coherence, balance, integrity, etc.: The debate degenerated into an exchange of insults. .... Censorship, what does it do. Does it take away someones right to say disagreeable things, or does it remove our right to read and appraise an opposite/legitimate view. Aqua. in his view states "worthless currency" to whom? Personally time after time I sit here and click the Fast Reply button and put down my opposing views to what i read in someones post, re-read it, spell check it and look at that blue box with Post in it and delete the whole thing because it might not only cause offence to someone but I sincerely believe that the other person has as much right as me to air their opinions no matter how obnoxious, and if required I might just might neg the offending post. That to me is censorship, and my right. Believe me when I say that there are those that are well overdue the attentions of Bump but until then I read it and either file it as feasible or bin it as rubbish. 85 pluses for a three day old article, I should be so lucky. This is not directed at Aqua. but is a generalisation on the recent posts and to the responses they bring about.

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Bumper-you are a class act! What a wise choice Adam made when he appointed you as a Mod. You have my highest respect as do all the moderators.

You are most welcome smile.gif and TY for the kind words!

The Mods appreciate the love we get from the members here at DV so Thank You Very Much!! tip_hat.gif

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It is clear that Matt330 is only here to cause heartache and try to steal everyone's dreams!

Just as he claims that guru's and educated members are pushing their agenda on everyone that we will have a RV, he is trying to pushing his agenda on everyone that there will not be a RV! (increase in value)

My guess is that Matt330 either was banned from this site before or has been banned from EVERY site and is just making it to ours! laugh.gif

I have been watching his post and when a member has just signed up to DV in the last month and already has a Negative rating of -200+ I can't find reason to leave this person on this site just to cause members heartache.

Matt330, I wish you well and I think if you even have dinar you should just sell it!

Thanks smile.gif

Bump

Job well done Bump. Long over do on Matt330. I had him pegged in the first week.

With this latest bump, does this mean we now call you Bumper65?

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What does this have to do with an RV? Iraq has been controlling the rate of its currency for a long time. I don't see where Chapter 7, Article 140, or Erbil has anything to do with an RV. Iraq can RV or RD or RI anytime they want to.

F. Y. I. Part of the Chapter 7 exit requires a country to have a transparent "accountable" World Traded Currency and with Iraq's main objective to get out of Chapter 7 it is very relevant !

For any type of Monetary Change to take place Iraq must gain peoples trust in the Dinar. By RVing the Dinar with no accountability is like putting perfume on a pig "it doesn't help"

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F. Y. I. Part of the Chapter 7 exit requires a country to have a transparent "accountable" World Traded Currency and with Iraq's main objective to get out of Chapter 7 it is very relevant !

For any type of Monetary Change to take place Iraq must gain peoples trust in the Dinar. By RVing the Dinar with no accountability is like putting perfume on a pig "it doesn't help"

DinarDon2, I would really like to read this about what you stated here, could you post it for all of us to read please. You must have something from the UN that covers these areas you talk about or are they your opinion?

Thanks in advance..

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F. Y. I. Part of the Chapter 7 exit requires a country to have a transparent "accountable" World Traded Currency and with Iraq's main objective to get out of Chapter 7 it is very relevant !

For any type of Monetary Change to take place Iraq must gain peoples trust in the Dinar. By RVing the Dinar with no accountability is like putting perfume on a pig "it doesn't help"

I know that the sanctions required Iraq to be transparent financially anyways, which would be why there are so many audits availible from the CBI and from outside agencies, but I have never read anything that stated this was a requirement to have a world traded currency before they could get out of CH7....the only issues I know of holding up CH7 is the land/border disputes with Kuwait, and also the debt that is owed to Kuwait which will take years to pay off. I have yet to read about any relation between the value of the dinar and getting out of CH7 or even the dinar having to be internationally accepted to be released.....

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Job well done Bump. Long over do on Matt330. I had him pegged in the first week.

With this latest bump, does this mean we now call you Bumper65?

laugh.gif NO, it is still 64 (year I was Born)

If it was based off of members I have HAD TO BAN over the years it would be more like Bumper9476laugh.giflaugh.gif Just Kidding!!

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I know that the sanctions required Iraq to be transparent financially anyways, which would be why there are so many audits availible from the CBI and from outside agencies, but I have never read anything that stated this was a requirement to have a world traded currency before they could get out of CH7....the only issues I know of holding up CH7 is the land/border disputes with Kuwait, and also the debt that is owed to Kuwait which will take years to pay off. I have yet to read about any relation between the value of the dinar and getting out of CH7 or even the dinar having to be internationally accepted to be released.....

Keep,

Even Breitling has long asserted this stand about Chapt 7 santions requiring an internationally traded & accepted "accountable transparent currency" before 7 can be lifted. So I also would like to see the page & paragraph specifying this. I don't know where to begin to look.....

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Keep,

Even Breitling has long asserted this stand about Chapt 7 santions requiring an internationally traded & accepted "accountable transparent currency" before 7 can be lifted. So I also would like to see the page & paragraph specifying this. I don't know where to begin to look.....

unirod, I've been looking but can't find anything, not to say its not there, I just haven't found anything...if anyone finds something it would be most helpful.

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I know that the sanctions required Iraq to be transparent financially anyways, which would be why there are so many audits availible from the CBI and from outside agencies, but I have never read anything that stated this was a requirement to have a world traded currency before they could get out of CH7....the only issues I know of holding up CH7 is the land/border disputes with Kuwait, and also the debt that is owed to Kuwait which will take years to pay off. I have yet to read about any relation between the value of the dinar and getting out of CH7 or even the dinar having to be internationally accepted to be released.....

Can you find it in wording/text or an online source that include the details of them being required to be financially transparent while under sanctions.

It is one thing to be transparent to 3 letter agencies or other foreign governments, but, do you really think they're required to be transparent to the average everyday person?

This may be two separate things... If everyone has the ability to watch your every move, wouldn't that cause problems to some extent? The value of their currencly alone would be hard to maintain as everyone would have direct knowledge of all details on how it is valued.

No.. i think they have the ability to keep some things (maybe even a lot of things) confidential from us.

Oh and to Bump, nice move.

Can't understand why people come on here & contiously be negative. You can discuss a potential negative outcome, but don't be brash about it. Its all about delivery, and if you come off as your almost proud that the negative event will occur, you'll likely be looked down upon.

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Can you find it in wording/text or an online source that include the details of them being required to be financially transparent while under sanctions.

It is one thing to be transparent to 3 letter agencies or other foreign governments, but, do you really think they're required to be transparent to the average everyday person?

This may be two separate things... If everyone has the ability to watch your every move, wouldn't that cause problems to some extent? The value of their currencly alone would be hard to maintain as everyone would have direct knowledge of all details on how it is valued.

No.. i think they have the ability to keep some things (maybe even a lot of things) confidential from us.

Oh and to Bump, nice move.

Can't understand why people come on here & contiously be negative. You can discuss a potential negative outcome, but don't be brash about it. Its all about delivery, and if you come off as your almost proud that the negative event will occur, you'll likely be looked down upon.

I will try and dig up that information as it has been over a year since going over it....Scooter actually presented it to me and we talked about it a lot....it surely will have to wait till i get home cause i might actually have a bookmark saved...MAYBE lol....

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Tell that to the people that spent the mortgage money on dinar. I bet they'd rather live in their house than their dreams.

For what it's worth, my 401K came up empty within a short time, and because I had no other source of income, I had to sell my lovely little house, one that was absolutely perfect for me, along with all the beautiful furniture and household items I had lovingly gathered over a lifetime, and move in with my daughter. So I guess you could say I lost my home, and with the last few dollars I had after settling my bills, I bought dinar. It was a last ditch effort to keep alive my dream of someday owning another home. I am loved here with my daughter and her family, and much wanted, and I am enormously grateful for my beloved family, but I still want my own home, not to live in someone else's. So maybe this makes me different than those who spent their last money on dinar instead of their house payment. I spent my last money on dinar, too, but only after already losing my house. However, this difference appears to put me on the other side from those who spent their money on dinar instead of making their house payment, because I still want the dream--I already lost the reality.

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