"CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL unauthorized civilian firearms..."

[InNoViSiOn]

It's nice to have a lot and variety of weapons, but it's only practical to carry no more then 3. The wielder of the weapon is the dangerous one. I've seen so many men with nice rifles that can't hit a 100m target if their life depended on it. It only takes one round of ANY caliber in the right place to kill a person.

[Shabibilicious]

Edited December 22, 2011 by Shabibilicious

[64jaguar]

They'll chip away little by little, if we aren't vigilant. They'll start with reasons and excuses to register all guns, like the failed "Fast and Furious" gun running SCHEME they tried to pull off. Then, when they think they have them registered, they'll say we know what you got, now turn them in. Don't think so? Research how other countries were duped into this.

------- below is an excerpt from an article about Australia... If it happens elsewhere they'll think they can make it happen here.

American hunters, especially those who hunt on western public lands-- take notice! Someday soon we will face the same problem on federal and state lands.

The anti-gun movement is the creature of the most radical leftist elements of the world wide socialist movement. The tactics are the same, with only slight propaganda alterations to fit each country. It's not surprising that the internationalist nose of the United Nations poked its way into the gun issue. The Sport Shooters Association of Australia stated that they had been "aware of a connection between the United Nations {UN} and Australia's new so-called 'national' gun laws." Look no further than the UN Security Council's pronouncements; they endorsed sweeping gun control measures, including a ban on private ownership of assault rifles.

Secretary-General Kofi Annan called for ways to reduce the global stockpile of some 500 million handguns, rifles, shotguns and assault weapons.

We gun owners are not just fighting for our gun rights; we are fighting for all our freedoms. The Second Amendment just happens to be the linch-pin.

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I might sound like a one note Charlie in most of my posts DinarMillionaire, but you are correct. The United Nations is the political arm of the International Monetary Fund (IMF). They are hell bent on controlling the population, they already control the money and our Government otherwise it wouldn't even be an issue, unfortunately they have worthy accomplices in Hillarious and Barry who work for the United States Corporation which is another boondoggle. I pray that the people in this country wake up, but when I look around at the current crop it doesn't look good, although only 15% of the people fought the Revolution. Maybe there is hope!

[AoK]

This whole thread reminded me of this post by Delta22:

The Gun is CivilizationHuman beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either persuading me, or forcing me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1hYoJZryV

"The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americanspossess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." James Madison

”The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” ~Thomas Jefferson

‘‘Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.’’ - Mahatma Ghandi,

”This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” ~Adolph Hitler, 1935, on The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany

‘‘In a polity, each citizen is to possess his own arms, which are not supplied or owned by the state.’’ — Aristotle

"‘‘We cannot be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.’’ Bill Clinton, USA Today, 3/11/93 page 2A

‘‘When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans ...... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.’’ Bill Clinton, 3-22-94

"”If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” ~The Dalai Lama

[Rdy_Stdy_GO]

This whole thread reminded me of this post by Delta22:

The Gun is CivilizationHuman beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either persuading me, or forcing me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1hYoJZryV

"The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americanspossess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." James Madison

”The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” ~Thomas Jefferson

‘‘Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.’’ - Mahatma Ghandi,

”This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” ~Adolph Hitler, 1935, on The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany

‘‘In a polity, each citizen is to possess his own arms, which are not supplied or owned by the state.’’ — Aristotle

"‘‘We cannot be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.’’ Bill Clinton, USA Today, 3/11/93 page 2A

‘‘When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans ...... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.’’ Bill Clinton, 3-22-94

"”If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” ~The Dalai Lama

Oustanding!!!!

[AoK]

Thanks Rdy!

“Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.” Edmund Burke, 1729-97

[desimo]

AoK....I am afraid we are destined to repeat it because people do not want to either learn from it or even admit that there was something to learn.

[ag man]

Yes . Exactly +1 for your commen sense. But if it were to happen I am prepared to bury all My good stuff and create a cache on my property for later use. Then let the cat and mouse game begin.

Our current administration has little regard for the constitution. All the czars are proof of that.

[Usaok]

Mojack and Obama suck ........get your heads out of your pencil neck asses . Obama is distroying this country . Do you folks get it yettttttttttttttttttttt .

[R2D2]

Well you can do what you want.

I personally joined a fireteam. I understand more the merrier concept. Every one in the USA might want to think about doing the same. Ever heard of "divide and conquer." Your government has that concept down to A fine science. Some of you might not what a fire team is. I really feel for those that find themselves in that position. The brainless robot said that.

Mojack and Obama suck ........get your heads out of your pencil neck asses . Obama is distroying this country . Do you folks get it yettttttttttttttttttttt .

I could not AGREE more ! Both are little more than Sheeple.