Criminal Complaint filed against Obama

[InNoViSiOn]

You are the crack head, not me. You believe those fools you will believe the devil.

Oh geez you boys are already arguing over politics, let's not make this a religious debate now eh?

[rtrusty]

I suggest all of you that hate this president find a candidate that can win in November......if you can't you will continue the next four years to keep throwing the kitchen sink against the wall while President Obama serves his second term.....as it stands now their is much more baggage found among the GOP contenders......it will be interesting the following months of all the martial affairs, corruption, etc. that will be brought out while some of you worry about birth certifcates.....hopefully I will be sipping an adult beverage on some island after the RV while these political battles carry on.......

Well sorry to say but as bad as this man is doing my own dog could beat him if the elections were held today.lol

[Weapon X]

So, here we go again? As I said before you keep bringing cases that have to do with "CITIZENSHIP" there is a difference than "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN".

I also have brought up the point that if the Democratic party is so sure of Obama being a "Natural Born Citizen, then, WHY did they try to change the Constitution's Eligibility clause four times just prior to Obama becoming a candidate? And WHY did Nancy Pelosi send the first state, I think it was New Hampshire, not sure, a letter of confirmation with the Constitutional Eligibility language of Obama and Biden, but yet changed it before sending it to the other 49 states? Seems to me they KNOW different.

Former U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson, a conservative Republican, and Harvard Law professor Laurence H. Tribe, a liberal Democrat, were assigned the task of researching the issue. In a March 19, 2008 memorandum, Olson and Tribe concluded that, “based on original meaning of the Constitution, the Framers’ intentions, and subsequent legal and historical precedent, Sen. McCain’s birth, to parents [plural] who were U.S. citizens serving on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936, makes him a ‘natural born Citizen’ within the meaning of the Constitution.”

Weeks later, in an April 10, 2008 statement, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said, “Based on the understanding of the pertinent sources of constitutional meaning, it is widely believed that if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens. Because he was born to American citizens [plural], there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen"

This was followed by an April 30, 2008 Senate resolution, approved by a vote of 99-0 (Senator John McCain abstaining). The resolution declared: “Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a ‘natural born citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.”

It is important to note that all four references… the 1866 Bingham statement, the Olson-Tribe Memorandum, the Leahy statement, and the U.S. Senate Resolution… all utilize the plural terms “parents” or “American citizens,” strongly suggesting that the “natural born” question rests, in large part, on the necessity of both parents being U.S. citizens.

While the Constitution itself does not define the term “natural born Citizen,” the legal precedent referred to in the Olson-Tribe memorandum cited above is taken from , the only defining precedent established by the U.S. Supreme Court. The Court concluded in Minor that, “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

This is why the democrats have been trying to amend Article 2 Section 1 at least 8 times, the latest in 2008.

Why come to this conclusion for McCain, but hold a different standard for Obama?

very nice, but you forget Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162(1875) was a case about women’s right to vote, not natural born citizenship.

23 years later in United States v. Wong Kim Ark the Court set the binding interpretation of natural born citizenship that is in effect to this day: any person born in the United States, as long as the parents aren’t enemy soldiers during invasion or foreign diplomats, is a natural born citizen.

[DinarMillionaire]

very nice, but you forget Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162(1875) was a case about women’s right to vote, not natural born citizenship.

23 years later in United States v. Wong Kim Ark the Court set the binding interpretation of natural born citizenship that is in effect to this day: any person born in the United States, as long as the parents aren’t enemy soldiers during invasion or foreign diplomats, is a natural born citizen.

PRECEDENT WAS ESTABLISHED BY MINOR V. HAPPERSETT 23 years earlier...

Black’s Law Dictionary defines “precedent” as a “rule of law established for the first time by a court for a particular type of case and thereafter referred to in deciding similar cases“.

The “citizenship” of those born to non-citizen parents was a question that the Minor Court avoided. But they avoided that question by directly construing Article 2 Section 1. In doing so, the Supreme Court in Minor defined the class of persons who were born in the US to citizen parents [plural] as “natural-born citizens”.

Since Minor, no Amendment has been adopted which changes that definition, and no other Supreme Court case has directly construed Article 2 Section 1.

The Supreme Court in Wong Kim Ark only construed the question of who was a “citizen” under the 14th Amendment, it did not construe Article 2 Section 1. Therefore, Minor and Wong Kim Ark do not compete with each other at all. Minor is the standing precedent for construction of the natural-born citizen clause in Article 2 Section 1, and Wong Kim Ark is the standing precedent as to “citizenship” under the 14th Amendment.

WONG KIM ARK SPECIFICALLY DEFERRED TO PRIOR PRECEDENT REGARDING THE DEFINITION OF NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Therefore, the holding in Minor is in no way superseded by Wong Kim Ark.

[TPSprayduster]

Are we still on this birth certificate deal? Are the GOP contenders talking about this? Are they? Is Ron Paul, Mit, Rick, Newt, Michelle and the rest? No they are not because they are addressing issue that are facing Americans today. But we have groups that are not interested in those issues only e rumors and fairy tales spun up by those who will stop at nothing to fan fires of deceit and fear. Some refer to the president as the Devil, Hugo chavez even said former president bush was the Devil. See we all get caught up in the same BS, in which results to name calling, preaching and anything else that is negative. Just this post went from a criminal compliant to the birth certificate saga. The GOP will not touch this because if they do then it is an automatic re-election win because people will related this to the T party and they will punish them for it. Those T party candidates promised slash and burn well all the got was kindling. Now in the upcoming elections they will vote them out and find more candidates that will promise more. With all of these side shows they will forget about the Presidential election and vote for who is going to help them not who is going to cut the budget by 1 trillion dollars and de-fang the Defense department. So when he wins re-election you can pat yourselves on the back from it those haters out here in Dinar world. You message is getting out there but it is the wrong message. One more thing, does the GOP know about these so call prison camps?

[rtrusty]

Are we still on this birth certificate deal? Are the GOP contenders talking about this? Are they? Is Ron Paul, Mit, Rick, Newt, Michelle and the rest? No they are not because they are addressing issue that are facing Americans today. But we have groups that are not interested in those issues only e rumors and fairy tales spun up by those who will stop at nothing to fan fires of deceit and fear. Some refer to the president as the Devil, Hugo chavez even said former president bush was the Devil. See we all get caught up in the same BS, in which results to name calling, preaching and anything else that is negative. Just this post went from a criminal compliant to the birth certificate saga. The GOP will not touch this because if they do then it is an automatic re-election win because people will related this to the T party and they will punish them for it. Those T party candidates promised slash and burn well all the got was kindling. Now in the upcoming elections they will vote them out and find more candidates that will promise more. With all of these side shows they will forget about the Presidential election and vote for who is going to help them not who is going to cut the budget by 1 trillion dollars and de-fang the Defense department. So when he wins re-election you can pat yourselves on the back from it those haters out here in Dinar world. You message is getting out there but it is the wrong message. One more thing, does the GOP know about these so call prison camps?

TP just because you're a sheep doesn't make everybody else a sheep.

[Usaok]

Now he says he is the 4th best pres ever..... Wow he is delirious . He is a communist , period... How can anyone with a reasonable brain think that this Arab wants anything positive for our country ... Better start looking alot closer. An old marine ...

[TPSprayduster]

TP just because you're a sheep doesn't make everybody else a sheep.

Is that the best you can do Trusty?