k98nights Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Ashour: Iraq government must bind US to annul Chapter VII sanctions before withdrawal Monday, December 05, 2011 14:18 GMT Iraqiya List advisor Hany Ashour urged Iraqi government on Monday to abstain from concluding any agreement with the United States before receiving a commitment that ends UN Charter chapter VII sanctions on Iraq. Chapter VII prevents the recuperation of Iraq’s sovereignty following the expected US withdrawal by the end of the current month, Ashour declared. “According to Iraqi government, the security agreement concluded with Washington in 2008 which set the timeline of US troops’ withdrawal from Iraq at the end of 2011 was intended to release Iraq from Chapter VII clause,” Ashour told a statement issued on Monday which Alsumarianews received a copy of. “Nothing changed and security agreement’s clauses as well as the strategic framework agreement were not fully executed,” he added, a source told Alsumaria. “US troops’ withdrawal does not imply the recuperation of Iraq’s full sovereignty as long as the country is still subject to UN Charter Chapter VII,” Ashour indicated calling Iraqi government to “abstain from concluding any agreement during upcoming negotiations with the US without prior commitment to end chapter VII sanctions within a determined timeline.” “Iraqi government should expose all facts to the Iraqi people before engaging in any new agreement with the US Administration regarding US trainers, military cooperation and Iraqi forces’ state after the withdrawal of US military,” Ashour revealed. “The government should also bind the US party to end Chapter VII sanctions over Iraq,” he stressed. Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki-Moon incited Iraq, on November 16, 2010, to fulfill its commitments towards Kuwait especially regarding UN’s resolution number 833 concerning borders’ demarcation in order to annul provisions of UN’s chapter VII. The International Security Council for its part decided, on December 2010, to maintain immunity over Iraqi money and extend Oil revenues’ deposit in UN’s development fund for Iraq until the end of 2011. This situation implicates that the execution of sanctions on Iraq is carried on by virtue of Chapter VII. UN Charter Chapter VII includes 13 articles. Resolution number 678 of the year 1990 which calls Iraq to withdraw from Kuwait is one of the chapter’s clauses. Iraq is still facing chapter VII sanctions because of the issue of Kuwaiti prisoners and missing citizens’ remains in Iraq as well as Kuwaiti properties. http://www.alsumaria.tv/en/Iraq-News/1-71385-Ashour%3A-Iraq-government-must-bind-US-to-annul-Chapter-VII-sanctions-before-withdrawal.html 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqdheadlines Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 So this means that likely we will see chapter VII removed before the end of this year........YES!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82Corp. Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 If Iraq agrees to RV at a set amount US will remove them from Chapter VII. IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
precious1 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Let's end the chapVII and get on with the RV! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker365 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) I find this very interesting; The International Security Council for its part decided, on December 2010, to maintain immunity over Iraqi money and extend Oil revenues’ deposit in UN’s development fund for Iraq until the end of 2011. This situation implicates that the execution of sanctions on Iraq is carried on by virtue of Chapter VII This to me seems to tell us that this is all that is needed to exit from Chapter Vii, Iraq is still facing chapter VII sanctions because of the issue of Kuwaiti prisoners and missing citizens’ remains in Iraq as well as Kuwaiti properties. Edited December 5, 2011 by Stryker365 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubberband King Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Just a matter of time now. We are almost there GO RV!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAME1 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I find it very interesting that Kuwait is having it's own turmoil now with the resignation of many top officials.....is it just me, or is it, when someone is not on board with the plan, we see protests, scandals, and resignations????? Sex crimes and embezzlement or fraud seem to be the top two...they seem to hang that hat on anyone who challenges authority or does not comply.....IMO Dame 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUNKANOO Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 If Iraq agrees to RV at a set amount US will remove them from Chapter VII. IMO. So let's removed them from CH VII and see the RV take place...GO RV!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onerighthand Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I don't think the us has full power to remove them from ch7, does it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsand Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I don't think the us has full power to remove them from ch7, does it? Nope, but the US are heavy players and can influence easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncirculd Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Wow, go Iraq! There are acting like a sovereign nation and even able to negotiate like the pros. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onerighthand Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Nope, but the US are heavy players and can influence easily. influence maybe, but influence easily, I wonder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I don't think the us has full power to remove them from ch7, does it? Have you ever been watching the tee vee, and see a guy that has four arms? You know there is somebody behind him, but you can't see him, except for his two arms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysmemaw Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 If Iraq agrees to RV at a set amount US will remove them from Chapter VII. IMO. Man I hope You're Right....Go RV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpsmit Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 RV,RV,RV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Come on US and Iraq get this done !!! Mommy needs a new pair of shoes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 It is AWESOME that this is being discussed - IMO one of the best articles out right now. They've been skirting around Chapter 7 lately, the Iraqi gov't keeps saying things to make people think Chapter 7 is released, but this article clearly brings it to our attention and puts the matter on the table. Front and center, baby! ADDRESS IT. Lift Chapter 7, restore value to the Dinar, and let's have a party! 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthful1 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) An article from yesterday said there are still 10 shared oil fields awaiting demarcation. how ignorant to ask for removal from ch 7 when they still havent met the.requirements of the un Edited December 5, 2011 by truthful1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsand Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 It is AWESOME that this is being discussed - IMO one of the best articles out right now. They've been skirting around Chapter 7 lately, the Iraqi gov't keeps saying things to make people think Chapter 7 is released, but this article clearly brings it to our attention and puts the matter on the table. Front and center, baby! ADDRESS IT. Lift Chapter 7, restore value to the Dinar, and let's have a party! Well K98 finds the good stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelg Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 This is a great Monday A.M.!! Let's get this taken care of, RV at a large amount, say $3 to 1D , cashin, and then let the entire area alone. It is a power keg and the civil disputes, wars among the tribes and nations will continue. Islamic peace is "do what I say!" and every leader wants to be his words that are being obeyed. I just want the RV to happen, to get off this ride, and to enjoy my retirement. Selfish? Maybe. But the battle in the ME has been going on for four thousand years. Our presence (U.S.) will not change things. The GREAT investments in Iraq may be the best in the world for the next four years, but the turmoil will continue. Why? They do not understand peace. Just my opinion. Getter' dun. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed4ever Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 YES! It seems to me after reading this article, that Iraq and the US are playing a negotiations game regarding the RV. US is saying, "RV (on our terms) and we'll get you out of Chapter 7", and Iraq is saying, "Get us out of Chapter 7, and we'll RV!!" HHHMMMM!! LETS DO IT ALREADY!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker365 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) It is AWESOME that this is being discussed - IMO one of the best articles out right now. They've been skirting around Chapter 7 lately, the Iraqi gov't keeps saying things to make people think Chapter 7 is released, but this article clearly brings it to our attention and puts the matter on the table. Front and center, baby! ADDRESS IT. Lift Chapter 7, restore value to the Dinar, and let's have a party! Adam, Maliki should be in Kuwait any day now, sign an agreement that has already been agreed on, off to see our Congress next week to be announced, IMO what ever that's worth. Now where does the RV announcement fit in is anyone's guess but Adam I'm ready to go shopping for the party favors, Viva Los Vegas. Edited December 5, 2011 by Stryker365 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storehouse Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Ashour: Iraq government must bind US to annul Chapter VII sanctions before withdrawal Monday, December 05, 2011 14:18 GMT Iraqiya List advisor Hany Ashour urged Iraqi government on Monday to abstain from concluding any agreement with the United States before receiving a commitment that ends UN Charter chapter VII sanctions on Iraq. Chapter VII prevents the recuperation of Iraq’s sovereignty following the expected US withdrawal by the end of the current month, Ashour declared. “According to Iraqi government, the security agreement concluded with Washington in 2008 which set the timeline of US troops’ withdrawal from Iraq at the end of 2011 was intended to release Iraq from Chapter VII clause,” Ashour told a statement issued on Monday which Alsumarianews received a copy of. “Nothing changed and security agreement’s clauses as well as the strategic framework agreement were not fully executed,” he added, a source told Alsumaria. “US troops’ withdrawal does not imply the recuperation of Iraq’s full sovereignty as long as the country is still subject to UN Charter Chapter VII,” Ashour indicated calling Iraqi government to “abstain from concluding any agreement during upcoming negotiations with the US without prior commitment to end chapter VII sanctions within a determined timeline.” “Iraqi government should expose all facts to the Iraqi people before engaging in any new agreement with the US Administration regarding US trainers, military cooperation and Iraqi forces’ state after the withdrawal of US military,” Ashour revealed. “The government should also bind the US party to end Chapter VII sanctions over Iraq,” he stressed. Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki-Moon incited Iraq, on November 16, 2010, to fulfill its commitments towards Kuwait especially regarding UN’s resolution number 833 concerning borders’ demarcation in order to annul provisions of UN’s chapter VII. The International Security Council for its part decided, on December 2010, to maintain immunity over Iraqi money and extend Oil revenues’ deposit in UN’s development fund for Iraq until the end of 2011. This situation implicates that the execution of sanctions on Iraq is carried on by virtue of Chapter VII. UN Charter Chapter VII includes 13 articles. Resolution number 678 of the year 1990 which calls Iraq to withdraw from Kuwait is one of the chapter’s clauses. Iraq is still facing chapter VII sanctions because of the issue of Kuwaiti prisoners and missing citizens’ remains in Iraq as well as Kuwaiti properties. http://www.alsumaria...withdrawal.html That is music to my ears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okane Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Sounds like the "HEAT" just got turned up on this situation! Maybe they will get with it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajunrescuemedic Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Time for it to RV, I'm in need of a new truck.....GO RV !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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