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Well atleast I don't buy into every single conspiracy website and accept it as fact and waste my entire life thinking and posting stuff about it. I'm sure your the uncle that the kids aren't allowed to talk to. lol

Well atleast I don't buy into every single conspiracy website and accept it as fact and waste my entire life thinking and posting stuff about it. I'm sure your the uncle that the kids aren't allowed to talk to. lol

No but you sure buy into that Habitual liar Obama, don't you?

Not really my nieces and nephews come to me to ask about the US. Sorry, i am alot more important to the future of my family that your deceived mind is. See i have not been duked by the corporate government kronie capitalism like you have. I dont believe what they say, there is always a political agenda behind every word they say and every law they pass. The coffee is here and all you have to do is choose to wake up and smell it. Keep playing your life off of what Obama says. Oh he will give you change. hahaha :D

The only change these Obamabot clowns got was pocket change, and nothing but lies.

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Well atleast I don't buy into every single conspiracy website and accept it as fact and waste my entire life thinking and posting stuff about it. I'm sure your the uncle that the kids aren't allowed to talk to. lol

No but you sure buy into that Habitual liar Obama, don't you?

The only change these Obamabot clowns got was pocket change, and nothing but lies.

you are singing the some old tune. LOL, nothing changes at least i know you are always anti everything. what are you going to do when he is re-elected?

Well atleast I don't buy into every single conspiracy website and accept it as fact and waste my entire life thinking and posting stuff about it. I'm sure your the uncle that the kids aren't allowed to talk to. lol

No but you sure buy into that Habitual liar Obama, don't you?

The only change these Obamabot clowns got was pocket change, and nothing but lies.

So if i assume the new world order is going into effect, that i am suppose to buy up all the food and guns i can to protect my turf and survive is that correct anti? Correct me if i am wrong if i followed your scheme of things i should be ok for the future. I don't need to run to canada do i?

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Respecting the office

Not the man in it. He is an abysmal failure, not worthy of the office.

Jew got it, mang! O's a 0 (zero).

Git 'R(V) Done!!!! KNOWWHUTIMEAN?

The amount of "good christians" that just absolutely HATE this man on this forum is just incredible. Sorry conspiracy nuts and tea baggers but I'll say it again.... He WILL be reelected if you guys nominate Newt GinGRINCH or another hard right winger. I voted for Obama mostly because of my disdain for Sarah Palin. You guys have a chance to win back the White House but putting someone like Newt or Perry or Santorum or Bachmann or Cain is just not going to get independents like me to vote for them. Romney could possibly persuade me but otherwise it's Obama. I might just vote Obama for sure just to get you guys going for another 4 years. I can only pray that this thing RV's soon and I won't have to see any of the new conspiracies for the next 4 years.... :P

Welcome! It's great to see some more fair minded people on here. But you will find that the bigotry runs like wild in this forum. ALOT of these people are constantly watching out the window for black helicopters and hoarding things. :rolleyes:

Jesus never acted like some of these people. It amazes me what some of them say and then will talk about how much they live Christ in the same sentence.

How in the world would you know what Jesus acted like? And why to you sort of people ALWAYS try to play the "racist/bigotry" card. The man's a bumbling idiot and I wouldn't care if he were PAISLEY in color!

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you are singing the some old tune. LOL, nothing changes at least i know you are always anti everything. what are you going to do when he is re-elected?

So if i assume the new world order is going into effect, that i am suppose to buy up all the food and guns i can to protect my turf and survive is that correct anti? Correct me if i am wrong if i followed your scheme of things i should be ok for the future. I don't need to run to canada do i?

I bet you and you kind will be running because that is in your nature. You know why I know that? Because anybody who supports this liar, felon in the Whitehouse is a traitor, and we know what happens to traitors eventually, so my advice is to run anywhere but America, because America was founded a Republic for patriots, and you are far from that.

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I bet you and you kind will be running because that is in your nature. You know why I know that? Because anybody who supports this liar, felon in the Whitehouse is a traitor, and we know what happens to traitors eventually, so my advice is to run anywhere but America, because America was founded a Republic for patriots, and you are far from that.

What proof do you have that the president is a felon and who said you are a patriot? You preach violence and overthrow and who made you the person who decide who is what how they should live. You have your ranch in bama and you make the rules there. Let me guess you will be the first to head for the hills when the going gets tough. I think you may have mistaken for someone who will run. The way you are spouting off in some views you are a traitor. The people you thought supported you will be the first there to occupy your place. Keep spouting off.

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What proof do you have that the president is a felon and who said you are a patriot? You preach violence and overthrow and who made you the person who decide who is what how they should live. You have your ranch in bama and you make the rules there. Let me guess you will be the first to head for the hills when the going gets tough. I think you may have mistaken for someone who will run. The way you are spouting off in some views you are a traitor. The people you thought supported you will be the first there to occupy your place. Keep spouting off.

Obama has presented fake birth records that experts have taken and proved they were fake. Also Obama stated that his administration would be the most transparent administration in history. Obama has did more to cover up his crimes, and he has help from Eric Holder who stonewalls any Investigations made against him. There are a huge heap of dirt on Obama, and the corrupt justice Department, and corrupt courts keep it from coming to light. Every time Obama opens his mouth a lie comes out of it. He claimed to be a Christian, but everybody knows he's a muslim. He even admitted he was a muslim in a slip up, but quickly retracted it. What fool would want a man leading them that does knowing but lie, cheat, and deceive? Obama is not be back in the whitehouse come 2012 because patriots are not going to allow it, and there nothing the corrupt, and their jack boot thugs can do about it. Truth will win out, and truth is on the patriots side. Obama and the liberals backing him, and many republicans are the biblical tares that soon will be removed from the earth for punishment.

Look at this deceiver:

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Obama has presented fake birth records that experts have taken and proved they were fake.

You can't be trusted as a "front line" patriot. You're needed in lower ranks with the other recruiters, those who can't

think for themselves but just follow instructions. THINK!!! If Army, Navy, AF military intelligence, the CIA, SS, FBI, NSA,

even old USA enemies like the KGB haven't brought forth "conclusive" proof by now, then their is no such thing.

You are following shadows which are using you for something else.

UNLESS...unless you actually ARE on the front line of the patriot movement...recruiting the ignorant people who will

simply follow someone who is expousing political, racial, anti-intellectual hatred.

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Thats like saying to the judge, Your Honor I respect the bench but F you.

No, actually it's not. It's like saying...

The Judge is not worthy of the bench. He's a liar and a theif. Never should have been appointed.

....But when the subject of Obama comes up, you expell nothing but foul air.

It's called bigotry.

That's funny. If you call anyone's dissatisfaction with what our President does while he's in office or our disdain for him because of what he has done while he's in office, "bigotry" because he's black, then you are the racist bigot. Nobody here has talked about the problem being his race.

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No, actually it's not. It's like saying...

The Judge is not worthy of the bench. He's a liar and a theif. Never should have been appointed.

That's funny. If you call anyone's dissatisfaction with what our President does while he's in office or our disdain for him because of what he has done while he's in office, "bigotry" because he's black, then you are the racist bigot. Nobody here has talked about the problem being his race.

Calm down. The configuration of our society supports the point of view I gave, not your. If Obama was the 3rd or 4th black president, then you

would have a more reasonable argument.

But, he's not. He is the first. Therefore, he is being "dumped" on with still unresolved racial "stuff. Yes, believe it or not, the Civil War is still being fought!

So this isn't a "you vs me" debate. Just look around you. Our society is still highly segregated. We still have politicians and preachers who imagine themselves

defending and restoring the "faded glory" of the South and its long-discredited perceptions of white superiority,

There has never been a Congress with congressional members who, in concert, disagree with most every one of their president's agenda items just to remove him from office.

He has an excellent family life. His intellect is superior or at least equal to most every person in government. Yet, nothing he says or does can satisfy even

the dumbest among us.

Etc.

Our country's racial past still infects our minds and social orientations today. Each one of us, therefore, must do and say things to cleanse not only ourselves

but our society from it. That is, if we sincerely want to.

In other words, we have the responsibility to PROVE WE ARE NOT racist or bigots. This is done in our language and behavior...not just here but everywhere.

If you say, I don't have anything to prove to anybody, that's ok too. But, if you say this, then don't sound and act like a bigot. If you do, then that's who you truly are.

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Well atleast I don't buy into every single conspiracy website and accept it as fact and waste my entire life thinking and posting stuff about it. I'm sure your the uncle that the kids aren't allowed to talk to. lol

No but you sure buy into that Habitual liar Obama, don't you?

The only change these Obamabot clowns got was pocket change, and nothing but lies.

Well they say people love to be lied to, now we have proof. Obama lies and they still love him. hahaha. :lol: :lol:

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Calm down. The configuration of our society supports the point of view I gave, not your. If Obama was the 3rd or 4th black president, then you

would have a more reasonable argument.

But, he's not. He is the first. Therefore, he is being "dumped" on with still unresolved racial "stuff. Yes, believe it or not, the Civil War is still being fought!

So this isn't a "you vs me" debate. Just look around you. Our society is still highly segregated. We still have politicians and preachers who imagine themselves

defending and restoring the "faded glory" of the South and its long-discredited perceptions of white superiority,

There has never been a Congress with congressional members who, in concert, disagree with most every one of their president's agenda items just to remove him from office.

He has an excellent family life. His intellect is superior or at least equal to most every person in government. Yet, nothing he says or does can satisfy even

the dumbest among us.

Etc.

Our country's racial past still infects our minds and social orientations today. Each one of us, therefore, must do and say things to cleanse not only ourselves

but our society from it. That is, if we sincerely want to.

In other words, we have the responsibility to PROVE WE ARE NOT racist or bigots. This is done in our language and behavior...not just here but everywhere.

If you say, I don't have anything to prove to anybody, that's ok too. But, if you say this, then don't sound and act like a bigot. If you do, then that's who you truly are.

I think it's bigoted to constantly bring up race at all.

What am I supposed to say?

'He sucks as a president, and I don't think that because he's half black?

' Puhleeze. I have no responsibility to prove I am not bigoted. I think it's pretty consistent that the bigots are the ones who bring it up at all. JMO.

Our local YWCA has a sign above the door more prominent than the name of the place that says something like "eliminating racism" and it offends me. Just freaking eliminate it. Talking about it is racist and preferential.

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I think it's bigoted to constantly bring up race at all.

What am I supposed to say?

'He sucks as a president, and I don't think that because he's half black?

' Puhleeze. I have no responsibility to prove I am not bigoted. I think it's pretty consistent that the bigots are the ones who bring it up at all. JMO.

Our local YWCA has a sign above the door more prominent than the name of the place that says something like "eliminating racism" and it offends me. Just freaking eliminate it. Talking about it is racist and preferential.

I gave you a "+" because for 2 reasons. One is your sincerity. The other is your honesty that enables you to openly express your inner thoughts.

But you see, not talking about racism is like not talking about a physical disease that has become a pandemic.

Not openly sharing any thoughts about it is like wishing it will simply go away.

Imagine children with an alcoholic father not speaking of this constant "elephant" in the room.

You get my point?

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I gave you a "+" because for 2 reasons. One is your sincerity. The other is your honesty that enables you to openly express your inner thoughts.

But you see, not talking about racism is like not talking about a physical disease that has become a pandemic.

Not openly sharing any thoughts about it is like wishing it will simply go away.

Imagine children with an alcoholic father not speaking of this constant "elephant" in the room.

You get my point?

I disagree.

Talking about it constantly is like the alcoholic father that is still in the room, drinking in front of everyone, and constantly shaming him openly for doing so.

Stop doing it, and there is nothing to talk about. Be the change you want to see, and stop talking about it. You can't change the behavior of others thru imposed shame. People who are bigoted don't care, and you can't change their bigotry by talking about it constantly.

At any point, this discussion has totally shifted off point. Someone was called bigoted because they don't like the President's leadership. That does not make them bigoted.

Someone saying that we shouldn't have an "N" in the white house is a bigoted attitude. Not liking what he does and what he stands for has nothing to do with being a bigot or not. Not liking him is not racist, nor bigoted.

I do not care what his race. IMO he is a lousy president, he's selling us out to socialism and communism, and I don't like it.

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I disagree.

Talking about it constantly is like the alcoholic father that is still in the room, drinking in front of everyone, and constantly shaming him openly for doing so.

Stop doing it, and there is nothing to talk about. Be the change you want to see, and stop talking about it. You can't change the behavior of others thru imposed shame. People who are bigoted don't care, and you can't change their bigotry by talking about it constantly.

At any point, this discussion has totally shifted off point. Someone was called bigoted because they don't like the President's leadership. That does not make them bigoted.

Someone saying that we shouldn't have an "N" in the white house is a bigoted attitude. Not liking what he does and what he stands for has nothing to do with being a bigot or not. Not liking him is not racist, nor bigoted.

I do not care what his race. IMO he is a lousy president, he's selling us out to socialism and communism, and I don't like it.

Yeah, you're right. We are just about ready to become communist and socialist and marxist and whatever else you want to fear. It is going to happen on Friday so be prepared. :rolleyes:

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Yeah, you're right. We are just about ready to become communist and socialist and marxist and whatever else you want to fear. It is going to happen on Friday so be prepared. :rolleyes:

Well...you know what they say about the prevalance of opinions.

But, if you were a wisened scientist, mathematician, etc., your thinking would be shaped differently. Emotions are discounted,

as are everything running counter to facts and proven evidence.

So, logically, the question must be asked: "Why are only the white people of a nation attacking their president"?

Is it because the nation's black and other minority people are blind...or illiterate...or can't formulate facts based upon concrete evidence?

Or is an historical social phenomenon that operates along racial lines distorting the political process?

Your answer, please?

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I disagree.

Talking about it constantly is like the alcoholic father that is still in the room, drinking in front of everyone, and constantly shaming him openly for doing so.

Stop doing it, and there is nothing to talk about. Be the change you want to see, and stop talking about it. You can't change the behavior of others thru imposed shame. People who are bigoted don't care, and you can't change their bigotry by talking about it constantly.

At any point, this discussion has totally shifted off point. Someone was called bigoted because they don't like the President's leadership. That does not make them bigoted.

Someone saying that we shouldn't have an "N" in the white house is a bigoted attitude. Not liking what he does and what he stands for has nothing to do with being a bigot or not. Not liking him is not racist, nor bigoted.

I do not care what his race. IMO he is a lousy president, he's selling us out to socialism and communism, and I don't like it.

"Someone was called bigoted because they don't like the President's leadership. That does not make them bigoted."

I TOTALLY AGREE!!!

"Not liking him is not racist, nor bigoted."

I TOTALLY AGREE!!!

As I stated earlier, you are a sincere and honest person. We all were generally that way when young and innocent. Then we were sent to school to learn "facts",

to navigate through this thing called life "properly".

Prejudice is an emotion. Its most unjust and illogical expressions -- racism and bigotry -- have become so entrenched in this country's past that we presume that

prejudice is normal. That's why people who are attempting to rise above social "nonsense" shape their language with factual information when speaking

of another person...any person...especially one socially elevated above everyone in the land.

Most everything that has been posted against this president has come from a place of emotion...not facts. He's called names, etc.

However, simply saying, "I don't like Obama", falls completely within your rights...not just constitutional but as a human being.

But denying that you are untouched by human history that still surrounds you, influences your choices and shapes your life, where you live, your church (if you attend),

your circle of friends, etc., is ludicrous. Ask those professionals who know these things.

So just bring the facts about Obama, not hearsay, not rumor. I want to join you in a factual discussion. Until then, I can't.

Just facts!!!

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I don't need to read more of the bible, I think you do. I know more about the bible than most biblical scholars know, so I do not think you can debate me on that and win.

The spirit of much of your discourse at this site seems to contradict your biblical expertise. So many "believers" seem to need to shout to the world how devout and righteous they are but their words and/or actions belie the pronouncements. Hypocritical or more cases of deception by minions?

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The spirit of much of your discourse at this site seems to contradict your biblical expertise. So many "believers" seem to need to shout to the world how devout and righteous they are but their words and/or actions belie the pronouncements. Hypocritical or more cases of deception by minions?

:tiphat:

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I have read through this and am amazed. Obviously history is thrown out the window in this argument. Religion has caused more wars than anything else on the face of the earth. Peoples beliefs were a cause of God commanding Israel to overthrow and kill whole populations of People in OT times. God has never changed His mind about Idol worship or Idol worshippers. God speaking of Himself said I change not. Jesus said My kingdom is not of this world or me and my servants would fight. In the return of Christ to this earth it is absolutely prophecied that he will return with a shout with ten thousands of His saints and blood will flow as high as the horses mane. When the Bible speaks of forgiveness it is speaking to us to forgive so we can have forgiveness because when your heart is full of hatred and vengeance you are carrying a weight never meant for you to carry. The Bible also says Jesus speaking that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief was coming he would not have suffered him to enter his home. Jesus asked His disciples how many swords they had and they said two and Jesus said that is enough. Jesus never taught that we should not defend ourselves or our homes or our loved ones.

The Bible also says God sets rulers up and takes them down. Obama is in place because of God and that is just how it is. I do not like the man and cannot stand what is happening to our country. I have listened to Obama and have heard the things he says and then what he does. I have seen how prejudiced he is against white men (who helped elect him into office) and have heard some of the racist comments he has spewed out. He is anti-American if you knew how Muslims feel about Americans you would be amazed that this man is our president. To remain in office and have such a strong hatred for America is living a lie. I believe there is such a thing as a presidential oath. This man is living a lie every day he is the epitomy of a life of lies and deceipt. My Bible says the devil is the father of all liars. I dont know what Bible you others adhere to.

That being said I believe America is receiving just compensation for her sinful ways. When you do not want God in your schools or courtrooms and you dont want anyone praying to Jesus. When you advocate abortion of the babies who do not know their right hand from their left and you say homosexuals can marry and you lift your voice and say God accepts that behaviour. God plainly says in scripture that that is abomination to Him. When you want In God we Trust taken off of the dollar and go against the teachings of the Bible concerning Child rearing and marital relationships and more things than time would ever allow me to write on this forum, you are ignoring the fact that God has always dealt harshly with nations that do these things. We are not just allowing these things to happen we are putting people in office and sticking up for them as they do them and then defending them!

I have some very special friends in my life and the person who is my dearest and best friend is a black man. I can tell all of you this. The black man was done wrong. He was taken from his country and brought here and enslaved. He was subjected to the whim and desire of the white men who brought him here. Those wrongs have been addressed and an overbalance to correct these wrongs have been advocated. There will always be prejudice however. I have heard it from both sides of the issue from both races. I never enslaved a black person and never would. At the same time as I am not guilty of harboring ill will or wishing any race to be under me I am very frustrated by people who want things from me for a crime I never committed. A crime never committed against them in most cases. To say to me that I have to pay for a crime that my forefathers committed is completely fraudulent and without rhyme or reason.

I believe if America wants back her former glory she needs to humble herself and clothe herself in sackloth and ashes and pray and fast unto the Lord and repent and turn from these evils that she has done and is allowing. That has always been throughout history the way to turn Gods anger from a people. If God allows Obama and this administration to have another tenure in office we may never be the United States of America again. Those who want to return to God will be seperated from those who do not. Then all of the people that want an unGodly wicked administration to continue to rum them will reap the full taste of what they want and I for one do not want to be a part of that crowd. If this is the end of time and the beast and his kingdom is being established then what has been written shall come to pass. When God returns and does war witht he beast and the false prophet you will truly know how God feels about this wicked generation.

There needs to be some repenting and turning back to God IMOHO

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I gave you a "+" because for 2 reasons. One is your sincerity. The other is your honesty that enables you to openly express your inner thoughts.

But you see, not talking about racism is like not talking about a physical disease that has become a pandemic.

Not openly sharing any thoughts about it is like wishing it will simply go away.

Imagine children with an alcoholic father not speaking of this constant "elephant" in the room.

You get my point?

Well, my point is that, if there is no elephant, and yet, everyone keeps mentioning the invisible elephant, all while claiming to see it while still trying to spot it, even though it isn't there, then everyone becomes paranoid by thinking they have to agree that there is an elephant, even when there is none. And everyone keeps surreptitiously looking for one, while trying to pretend they already see one, even though none is there. This thing has become a vicious circle that will never end until people get their heads out of the sand and stop trying to focus on something that is usually not even there any longer.

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