Kill them before the rumor can be disproven

[thechosenone]

All anybody has to do around here to find out how bad the bashing is on this site is to post something positive. My gosh I just read a post where someone was talking about a phone call they got and the negs ate him alive!! they acted like he stole something from them. God man all this guy did was relay a story. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED FOR SURE EITHER! So it makes you just as bad for responding with hate! If you dont believe it, then move on and read something else. I get just as tired of the BS stories as anyone else but you need to be bashing johnnywg and bear and bulldog and those people who have proven to be false intel givers. Not the people who are just part of the regular folks without the GURU title. Im as tired of the neg people as I as i am the supposed gurus who constantly give false information.

[MrDinarman]

I don't like drive-byers either

[Rogue Knight]

Funny thing is Adam had a good idea at cleaning up this site, but a lot of the negative people on here follow each other. They always root for their cynical, condescending group of naysayers. They will continue to troll and drive by here, for the most part unchecked and unchallenged. When they are confronted, they only come back with more filth to spew from their computer. I'd love to meet some of these "keyboard nazi's" in person, I bet the conversation would be short...

Edited November 19, 2011 by Rogue Knight

[Choppermike]

All anybody has to do around here to find out how bad the bashing is on this site is to post something positive. My gosh I just read a post where someone was talking about a phone call they got and the negs ate him alive!! they acted like he stole something from them. God man all this guy did was relay a story. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED FOR SURE EITHER! So it makes you just as bad for responding with hate! If you dont believe it, then move on and read something else. I get just as tired of the BS stories as anyone else but you need to be bashing johnnywg and bear and bulldog and those people who have proven to be false intel givers. Not the people who are just part of the regular folks without the GURU title. Im as tired of the neg people as I as i am the supposed gurus who constantly give false information.

Dude, you just nailed it. My wife and I were just talking about how it is so easy to hide behind a screen name and bash someone for an innocent gesture or statement. This is typical passive/aggressive behavior that is so prevalent on this site and others. The mods should be held responsible for shutting down a thread the moment it becomes even the slightest bit ugly.

[bright]

All anybody has to do around here to find out how bad the bashing is on this site is to post something positive. My gosh I just read a post where someone was talking about a phone call they got and the negs ate him alive!! they acted like he stole something from them. God man all this guy did was relay a story. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED FOR SURE EITHER! So it makes you just as bad for responding with hate! If you dont believe it, then move on and read something else. I get just as tired of the BS stories as anyone else but you need to be bashing johnnywg and bear and bulldog and those people who have proven to be false intel givers. Not the people who are just part of the regular folks without the GURU title. Im as tired of the neg people as I as i am the supposed gurus who constantly give false information.

most of the time no big deal but when you hear the Okie/ Ali fiasco it makes you stop and think......there are many people that can be taken advantage of.......heck my 86 yr old uncle is one.....if he sees something on TV or a bargain at the store he will load up......and some of those ads are not scams but the great Okie/Ali thing was premeditated......

[Captjohn]

All anybody has to do around here to find out how bad the bashing is on this site is to post something positive. My gosh I just read a post where someone was talking about a phone call they got and the negs ate him alive!! they acted like he stole something from them. God man all this guy did was relay a story. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED FOR SURE EITHER! So it makes you just as bad for responding with hate! If you dont believe it, then move on and read something else. I get just as tired of the BS stories as anyone else but you need to be bashing johnnywg and bear and bulldog and those people who have proven to be false intel givers. Not the people who are just part of the regular folks without the GURU title. Im as tired of the neg people as I as i am the supposed gurus who constantly give false information.

It's the likes of johnnywg, bear, bulldog, okie, and debtarheelgirl, with their outrageous claims and unsubstantiated hype, that reflects and rubs off on the few that come here to post something in good faith that they feel people will want to hear. It's regrettable that they get painted with the same brush as the disingenous gurus, but, IMO, that's the way it goes. Too many people on this site have heard too much B.S. over the years....and the fact of the matter is....that no one, absolutely no one....has been right up 'til now.

Edited November 19, 2011 by Captjohn

[vastdream]

That's a great subject line... love it... hahaha...

[coldwarvet]

Kudos to the people who have the courage to post something factual and interesting, even in the face of the naysayers. To the latter, I refer you to the words of US President Teddy Roosevelt, from his 1910 sppech at the Sorboone:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Bottom line: you can be "the man in the arena," or you can be the critic who tosses spitballs from the sidelines. Your choice.

[DAME1]

Let me say it one more time.........time to take out the trash..............

[Shick]

I ASSUME WE ARE ALL HERE TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING GREAT AND THE CLOSER WE GET TO OUR ACCOMPLISHMENT THE FURTHER WE SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM EACH OTHER. I GUESS THE OLD SAYING IS TRUE. SAME OLD SOUP WARMED OVER. LET LOVE ABIDE, AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I WROTE PLEASE, JUST DO IT BETTER. GO RV!!

[nlp1]

There is no sense in bashing someone on what they say ake it with a grain of salt. The RV will happen when it happens ( sooner the better) .most of the people bashing are just doing it to make up for there own problems . So if you have nothing good to say about someone dont say anything .BE NICE we all are here waiting for the same thing . GO RV

[MrDinarman]

Why are newbies so arrogant? We like DV how it is. Its the only place we can actually voice our opinion and have a debate and not get banned for it. If you like being happy and "positive" all day everyday then go to any of the numerous Dinar related cult sites. I'm so sick of new people coming in here and acting like they own the place and pretending like they know everything. I think we should all be respectful (except to okie and the like) and able to ask basic questions about any info or intel that comes in. We don't all have to agree, just respect others opinions and leave it at that.

[DAME1]

Really you gave me a neg....I've been researching reading asking questions from the get go.....I pay no attention to the garbage that comes up on this site every single day....so when I say take out the trash it has to do with the bashers and the scammers aka you for giving me a negative...so what your saying is love one another my way or I will give you a neg.......as day trader said earlier there are a bunch of punks on the site now and it's not helping our goal.......

Dame

[storm1]

All anybody has to do around here to find out how bad the bashing is on this site is to post something positive. My gosh I just read a post where someone was talking about a phone call they got and the negs ate him alive!! they acted like he stole something from them. God man all this guy did was relay a story. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED FOR SURE EITHER! So it makes you just as bad for responding with hate! If you dont believe it, then move on and read something else. I get just as tired of the BS stories as anyone else but you need to be bashing johnnywg and bear and bulldog and those people who have proven to be false intel givers. Not the people who are just part of the regular folks without the GURU title. Im as tired of the neg people as I as i am the supposed gurus who constantly give false information.

do you have a rumor to post?(please note this is rumor forum) or are you just going to complain about the complainers?

most of the time no big deal but when you hear the Okie/ Ali fiasco it makes you stop and think......there are many people that can be taken advantage of.......heck my 86 yr old uncle is one.....if he sees something on TV or a bargain at the store he will load up......and some of those ads are not scams but the great Okie/Ali thing was premeditated......

what oakie / ali fiasco?

[tombstone]

I don't like drive-byers either

Can you explain why? Seems like someone could bring some info that we don't hear. Is this just a few club members little tree fort in the backyard like when we were kids?

Edited November 20, 2011 by tombstone

[brbrlocke]

Really you gave me a neg....I've been researching reading asking questions from the get go.....I pay no attention to the garbage that comes up on this site every single day....so when I say take out the trash it has to do with the bashers and the scammers aka you for giving me a negative...so what your saying is love one another my way or I will give you a neg.......as day trader said earlier there are a bunch of punks on the site now and it's not helping our goal.......

Dame

I got rid of one of them for you. I don't like the neg button. Wish we didn't have it.

[Skybear]

It's the likes of johnnywg, bear, bulldog, okie, and debtarheelgirl, with their outrageous claims and unsubstantiated hype, that reflects and rubs off on the few that come here to post something in good faith that they feel people will want to hear. It's regrettable that they get painted with the same brush as the disingenous gurus, but, IMO, that's the way it goes. Too many people on this site have heard too much B.S. over the years....and the fact of the matter is....that no one, absolutely no one....has been right up 'til now.

Captjohn - - -3 +'s to you. You have EXACTLY and SUCCINCTLY pointed to the problem, and it cannot be ignored any longer. TOO MANY TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS and totally UNSUBSTANTIATED HYPE! Same people ALWAYS hype to add CONSISTANLY WRONG and FALSE INPUT. Inout they ALWAYS CLAIM comes from "SECRET" and always "HIGHLY-PLACED" and always UNNAMED sources, sources which have to THIS DATE been ALWAYS 100% wrong!

After SO many FALSE CRIES OF "WOLF" (or in our case, "THE DINAR HAS RV'd LAST NIGHT AND WE HAVE IT ON THE highest AUTHORITY BY SOURCES SO HIGH WE CANNOT TELL YOU!"), people get MORE than angry!

PARTICULARLY when the ALWAYS WRONG self-acclaimed GURU's like OKIE and johnnywg REPEATEDLY say STUPID, SELFISH and HURTFUL THINGS like, "QUIT YOUR JOB. . .IT RV'D LAST NIGHT" do people become enraged.

This absolute TRIPE is bad enough when it is on their own sites. . .but then when naive, DESPERATE-FOR-HOPE people (mostly newbies) read that tripe and they become EXCITED thinking these "people" might actually have a CLUE about ONE TIME out of 10,000 actually be CORRECT but are ALWAYS 1005 WRONG WRONG, these newbies. . .acutally BELIEVE the garbage because they haven't yet experienced for themselves the months and in some instances the YEARS of them ALWAYS being 100% WRONG and always report FALSE and incorrect claims of RV and rates. Everybody who has been in this investmentment for more than 6-months -and ESPECIALLY those of us who have been for more than 5,6 or even 7 years KNOW who the "hypsters" are. Captjohn has clearly identified a few of the WORST. From these SAME self-professed GURU's pure and worthless GARBAGE is vomited over-and-over for MONTHS and in some cases for YEARS!

Many of these "hypsters" used to be on the same forums, but were either "KICKED-OFF" or wanted to start their own. many actually CHARGE the innocent listener/reader a FEE to hear their tripe (Is "Frank-Let-Me-Sing-To-You-Villa" both still CHARGING for his listeners and ALSO still selling dinars after he has PUMPED?).

One result of all this GARBAGE FALSE reporting is the Dinar "feeding frenzy" and example which took place late last week through Wednesday of this week when ALL SALES RECORDS for dinasales were exceeded on the massive HYPE of these Gurus. For Example, look what was posted on THIS FORUM just this past Monday:

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possum

Posted 14 November 2011 - 09:57 PM

It's done believers the RV has happened! Party Time!!!

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Perhaps THIS is why when new folks post, some people react so violently. Both old heads AS WELL as newbies to Dinar Investments can acquire their own intel and share it. In some cases it would prove to be incorrect. . .but unlike the "professionals GURUs" among which are those named by Captjohn.

Again. . .a MULTITUDE of +++++ for saying the TRUTH here.

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[Markinsa]

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[paulp67]

I found this thread strange and quite funny fro 2 reasons. Firstly this thread is in the "Dinar Rumor" part of the forum but there is no rumor, bear with me and I will rectify that, and secondly it is a thread started to "Bash the Bashers" lol

Here is my take on what a forum is for. A forum is setup so individuals can express there views on a variety of subjects and these views can be the subject of great debate people agree with the views and people disagree. We are in a unique situation where we are debating on wether an investment is going to come to fruition and how much will we gain from this investment. I like this forum because it's balanced and you can express your views, as long as you don't overstep the line, the way you want to without fear of being banned because the owner or guru doesn't agree with your views. There are individuals from all walks of life, and nationalities, in this forum who express their views on a daily basis, others wont agree but there is nothing wrong with that everybody is different. " Dinar Rumor" does create alot of debates which is good not bad, some might be over zealous in there comments, in the main it is balanced and keeps everybodys feet on the ground. I mean everybody who has disagreed a "the dinar is about to RV anyday" rumor in the last 8 years can say they have been 100% correct. Rumors keep the debates going and I welcome the rumors from individuals on this forum. Would you like this forum into turn to the crazy forums were all the gurus intel is gospel and should not be questioned? That's just a dinar pumping forum setup to sell dinars plain and simple of which there are 4 or 5 of and I will give you an example:

This is a rumor I just read from a certain individual who will remain nameless but when you read this you will probably guess it. "they are cashing in in KUWAITE" (his spelling not mine lol).

So my first question is if they are cashing in in Kuwait why are we not seeing the rate worldwide because Kuwait is not a part of Iraq so it can no longer be an in-country RV as was protrayed this weekend. The problem I have individuals like this is there is no "common sense" applied when intel is given out which makes me think they are lying to imbelish a small portion of truth. This particular individual was not even heard of a few months ago he was an ordinary joe who used to visit a particular site and talk about his daily morning ritual of having coffee somewhere in Toronto. Now all of a sudden this person is on his way to Texas to become a fully fledged guru sets up another dinar site with other dubious individuals. My first comment would be GET A JOB then I thought about it and he has "selling dinar".

Then at the opposite end of the spectrum you have what I call "the poacher turned gamekeeper" syndrome. Oldtimers who were once the biggest dinar pumpers in the land now spend their time shooting down others intel. Again I wont name them but can I have a stretcher and a blue couch. Theres no debating theres just taking aim and firing now that the past glories are behind them.

I know I have rambled on but I just wanted to get my point across that it is good to have balance agree/disgree, good or bad, as long as a certain line isn't crossed. As I said previously this is a good balanced forum don't kill it because you don't like SOME of the things posted. Take heed of the original poster if you don't like don't read it. Simple.

Edited November 20, 2011 by paulp67

[MovieMaker]

I just jump over reading anything that starts to feel negative and move to the next read, or post. Luckily, there are more GOOD people & posters on DV than BAD. So it's easy... my ears and eyes aren't trash cans so I watch what goes in them. tee hee GO RV and Congrats to all my DV family members that are getting ready to have a little more weight in the old pocket!

Edited November 20, 2011 by MovieMaker

[armondtoth]

most of the time no big deal but when you hear the Okie/ Ali fiasco it makes you stop and think......there are many people that can be taken advantage of.......heck my 86 yr old uncle is one.....if he sees something on TV or a bargain at the store he will load up......and some of those ads are not scams but the great Okie/Ali thing was premeditated......

Heres my opinion, you see a lot of new people on this site. Some that have only been here maybe 5 or 6 months and you see some of these folks have over 1000 postings. This tells me that there is a whole lot of BS being said.

[Hawaii 50]

Why are newbies so arrogant? We like DV how it is. Its the only place we can actually voice our opinion and have a debate and not get banned for it. If you like being happy and "positive" all day everyday then go to any of the numerous Dinar related cult sites. I'm so sick of new people coming in here and acting like they own the place and pretending like they know everything. I think we should all be respectful (except to okie and the like) and able to ask basic questions about any info or intel that comes in. We don't all have to agree, just respect others opinions and leave it at that.

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[Danan]

Kudos to the people who have the courage to post something factual and interesting, even in the face of the naysayers. To the latter, I refer you to the words of US President Teddy Roosevelt, from his 1910 sppech at the Sorboone:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Bottom line: you can be "the man in the arena," or you can be the critic who tosses spitballs from the sidelines. Your choice.

What a beautiful quote. Thank you. And a +1

[thechosenone]

Why are newbies so arrogant? We like DV how it is. Its the only place we can actually voice our opinion and have a debate and not get banned for it. If you like being happy and "positive" all day everyday then go to any of the numerous Dinar related cult sites. I'm so sick of new people coming in here and acting like they own the place and pretending like they know everything. I think we should all be respectful (except to okie and the like) and able to ask basic questions about any info or intel that comes in. We don't all have to agree, just respect others opinions and leave it at that.

I rest my case