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BondLady] some 1 asked earlier but i was on the phone with our gh and couldnt respond

[bondLady] what i felt about the troop withdrawal

[bondLady] i look at it 2 ways and neither is bad

[bondLady] and its just my opinon but as u all know i read a ton every day

[bondLady] gm ss

[bondLady] the withdrawal

[bondLady] gm ladonna

[bondLady] that might just be some strategic thing to get them out of ch 7 quicker

[bondLady] they have to be able to protect themselves without us

[bondLady] yes

[bondLady] even tho

[bondLady] we started handing things back over to them to do on there own for the last 2 yrs

[bondLady] we are and were trainers and an advisory roll

[bondLady] so kuwait doesnt want them to come out of ch 7 yet as iraq still owes the 35% of the remainder balance of what iraq owed kuwait for sins of the father which was saddam

[bondLady] justifiably so iraq owed it

[bondLady] consequences happen an they have to pay for it even if it was saddam that did it

[bondLady] it was still iraq

[bondLady] iraq asked the un to take them out of ch 7 and let iraq an kuwait come to terms on the remainder 35%

[bondLady] kuwait said no

[bondLady] i dont blame them

[bondLady] iraq renigs on things every day

[bondLady] just look at the procrastination of emplimenting the agreements of erbril

[bondLady] sec brb

[bondLady] lemme read back lost my place

[bondLady] so kuwait said no they dont trust iraq to keep there word

[bondLady] kuwait might be a lil nicer also if they would stop threatning them over there new mubarek port also

[bondLady] there was a deal made

[bondLady] with the un and other countries weve read them in the news

[bondLady] if u leave kuwait alone about its mubarek port an concentrate on the new iraq port fao then we could get u outta ch 7

[bondLady] but will they shut up?

[bondLady] no that loud mouth ugly chick in the goi is non stop about it

[bondLady] even tho they know its for the best

[bondLady] they cant control themselves long enough to come out of ch 7

[bondLady] Maliki: survival instructors Vervaeke arming contracts ...And military bases will remain for training purposes only/expanded/ Date: Saturday 22-10-2011 03: 11 pm Baghdad (newsletter).Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki that the number of trainers and stay in Iraq arms contracts will be bought, declaring in time for the absence of any military base in Iraq after the withdrawal of the US Army after the end of the year. Maliki said at a press conference at the press center of the Presidency of the Council of Ministers was attended by a reporter (News News Agency) reported Saturday that the withdrawal will end: any US military presence in Iraq, and the number of trainers and stay in Iraq will determine within decades by armament will be purchased, noting: the presence of instructors is normal when buying weapons from the country of origin to train Iraqis on maintenance and use.

[bondLady] Al-Maliki said that Iraq had bought weapons and equipment from the United States, received arms and equipment as a gift worth $ 800 million, saying: that the rules will remain for training purposes only and the presence of military operations and the presence of us military bases in the future require new Convention ratified by the Sejm, and continued: many repercussions immunity, either emotional or intellectual, religious, political blocs expressed its refusal to grant immunity to the trainers. And said: that Iraq and Toya American relations page was governed by military presence, will begin a new relationship between the two countries by the end of this year, Iraq wants to play in all areas, and this is supported by extensive relations with the United States. However: there won't be any affected u.s. withdrawal from Iraq, Iraq will regain its full sovereignty and the security situation in Iraq is not affected by the withdrawal of US troops because the security file managed by Iraqi forces since the year 2008, predicting that some terrorist acts, maybe starting from now. Maliki said: that all arguments and justifications for terrorist groups from Al-Qaida to use weapons and bloodshed, was eliminated after Obama's decision to withdraw all US forces from Iraq by the end of the year.

[bondLady] But al-Maliki: Iraq exposed to any external aggression after genealogy, and we're not worried about these expectations, because Iraq is continuing to raise its military capabilities and arm his army, and this does not mean that Iraq not strong now, it is able to reply to any external aggression on its territory and in all means. And via Al-Maliki was astonished by some parties that have not specifically, feared this withdrawal, and said they don't want Iraq to restore its sovereignty, but on the Iraqi people respond appropriately. This was confirmed by Prime Minister Nouri Kamil al-Maliki on the need to operationalize the strategic framework agreement, which charted a course for the nature of relations between Iraq and the United States, after the withdrawal of US troops at the end of this year.

[bondLady] The Office said in a statement received by Al-Maliki (News Agency news) copy: confirm Al-Maliki came during a closed-circuit television with u.s. President Barack Obama took place Thursday evening, referring to the statement: that the views of both sides was identical with the need to initiate a new phase of strategic relations within the strategic framework agreement after withdrawal on schedule later this year. It said the two sides agreed on the need to convene a meeting of the Coordinating Committee of senior strategic framework Convention in two weeks. The statement said the two sides stressed the importance of implementing the strategic framework agreement vocabulary in scientific, cultural and developmental and other, in the interest of the two countries and people friendly. The statement pointed out: the US President has invited the Prime Minister to visit United States, Maliki promised to met soon http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ar&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2Fnews.php%3Faction%3Dview%26id%3D22979

[cybercat] what determines whether they are a sovereign nation?

[bondLady] id imagine when they can take care of themselves with out help

[bondLady] which is what troop withdrawl will do

[bondLady] is give them full sovreinity and not just the mouth but the whole body of it

[bondLady] so when we do go they better be able to back up what they say

[bondLady] and also to put other countries in check when they do stuff to them also

[bondLady] so this paragraph basically what i said about the trainers

[bondLady] Al-Maliki said that Iraq had bought weapons and equipment from the United States, received arms and equipment as a gift worth $ 800 million, saying: that the rules will remain for training purposes only and the presence of military operations and the presence of us military bases in the future require new Convention ratified by the Sejm, and continued: many repercussions immunity, either emotional or intellectual, religious, political blocs expressed its refusal to grant immunity to the trainers. And said: that Iraq and Toya American relations page was governed by military presence, will begin a new relationship between the two countries by the end of this year, Iraq wants to play in all areas, and this is supported by extensive relations with the United States. However: there won't be any affected u.s. withdrawal from Iraq, Iraq will regain its full sovereignty and the security situation in Iraq is not affected by the withdrawal of US troops because the security file managed by Iraqi forces since the year 2008, predicting that some terrorist acts, maybe starting from now. Maliki said: that all arguments and justifications for terrorist groups from Al-Qaida to use weapons and bloodshed, was eliminated after Obama's decision to withdraw all US forces from Iraq by the end of the year.

[bondLady] anyways hope that helped ya'll

[bondLady] and keep in mind please its just my opinon,

[bondLady] also because i believe this chat will make its way back to dv, id like to add a lil something here

[bondLady] theres some of u i miss very much, carrello, francie, elixr to name just a couple there were many many, my hat goes off to adam if i wore 1 lol for what he did per the negs and bashers on his forum

[bondLady] glad he did wished he would have done it sooner, i might have still came over for visits, i tried to do the right thing, and set a presidance for leaders and other fourms to show a respectful presance and go and visit with other forums as we are all in this investment together, that egos shouldnt exist in this

[bondLady] and by me going to visit different forums i tried to set an example of truth and respect for my fellow investors

[bondLady] some people just would not allow it, if it wasnt for non stop trying to make me say some thing i didnt believe in to flat out lieing or damning me for bad pennmanship or slang

[bondLady] i mean really lol

[bondLady] but things happened and i left from there, and wont be comming back to post, but plenty of people that are there let me know how much i was supported by many and i thank you all for that, very much

[bondLady] any way gonna stop and say hope our saturday morning chat helped ya'll

[bondLady] and it was just my opinons

[bondLady] nothing is set in stone

[bondLady] ty all vm

[bondLady] drops the mic an walks off

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Thanks Hamels for the post.

[bondLady] also because i believe this chat will make its way back to dv, id like to add a lil something here

[bondLady] theres some of u i miss very much, carrello, francie, elixr to name just a couple there were many many, my hat goes off to adam if i wore 1 lol for what he did per the negs and bashers on his forum

[bondLady] glad he did wished he would have done it sooner, i might have still came over for visits, i tried to do the right thing, and set a presidance for leaders and other fourms to show a respectful presance and go and visit with other forums as we are all in this investment together, that egos shouldnt exist in this

[bondLady] and by me going to visit different forums i tried to set an example of truth and respect for my fellow investors

[bondLady] some people just would not allow it, :confused:

BOND LADY ROCKS who could possibly have any problem with all the research and articles she brings?

O THATS RIGHT keepmwlknfny because she included her opinion.

And we all know what happens when your opinion is different than Keepmwlknfny

out comes his quick witted and knowledgeable attacks reguarding his pro-lop BS :angry:

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[bondLady] some people just would not allow it,

BOND LADY ROCKS who could possibly have any problem with all the research and articles she brings?

O THATS RIGHT keepmwlknfny because she includes her opinion.

And we all know what happens when your opinion is different than Keepmwlknfny

out comes his quick witted and knowledgeable attacks reguarding his pro-lop BS

No one attacked her.....dont start speaking about what you know nothing about....

Not my fault she got all bent out of shape because I asked her to explain why she thought the way she did....maybe if her reasons were solid, and she actually understood herself, then she would have shared her side instead of running off crying like she was ganged up on.....I never told her she was wrong, stupid, dumb or any of that....but if you actually knew what went on you would know that I thanked her for what she does and even explained to her that I enjoyed reading her posts.....but you already knew that huh?? Some people are just too sensitive to even belong to an online forum.....

But since you have no clue what your talking about, its probly best you just keep your mouth closed hows that?? Then you wont spread false assumptions as well....

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Thanks BL, I have always appreciated your posts. One thing I have learned, being here 2 years is that you have to have thick skin, and not let things bother you. I feel you have had, and still do have, plenty of support here.

You chose to walk away. Your choice. You are always welcome here, but we all need to drop the drama.

We are taking care of the negative people, but I feel that there are some people on these forums that are far to sensitive.

DaveH drops the drama and awaits the negs :D

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Thanks BL, I have always appreciated your posts. One thing I have learned, being here 2 years is that you have to have thick skin, and not let things bother you. I feel you have had, and still do have, plenty of support here.

You chose to walk away. Your choice. You are always welcome here, but we all need to drop the drama.

We are taking care of the negative people, but I feel that there are some people on these forums that are far to sensitive.

DaveH drops the drama and awaits the negs :D

Sometimes it takes a Great Moderator such as yourself DaveH to help someone notice there mistakes.

I resent my earlier post reguarding keepmwlknfny it only made me look as petty as those who do the same.

G RV/RI

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Sometimes it takes a Great Moderator such as yourself DaveH to help someone notice there mistakes.

I resent my earlier post reguarding keepmwlknfny it only made me look as petty as those who do the same.

G RV/RI

You dont know how much I appreciate that Brisco.

What I appreciate more is is your statement regarding Keepem'

Thank you sir

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Iraq 's sanctions will never be released, until they have tradeable currency period.

The tradeable currency cannot happen until they are controlled by the GOI. (not the usa)

The USA wont leave until they have their own Minister of Defence approved and seated.

Sounds like to me this game soon will be over.

The last missing pieces to the puzzle has been here all along.

I just hope they are ready (GOI) to give the protection they need to protect the people.

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The USA wont leave until they have their own Minister of Defence approved and seated.

I just hope they are ready (GOI) to give the protection they need to protect the people.

I kind of agree with you on that. I think that the US getting our troops out IS one of the things needed to be done for Iraq to be seen as a truly independent country and for the ball to start rolling on getting more faith in the dinar as a currency and being accepted internationally.

This is gonna be Iraqs biggest test so far and will show whether or not what we want as currency speculators, is gonna be possible or not! If they can hold themselves together we just might be ok!

This is where the faith you have in the dinar is strong enough to hold on and wait it out......

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I know I'm going to get 30 trillion negs for this, but I'm going to say it anyway. When BL said that the currency was devalued in 2003, that the 3 zero notes were added in 2003, and that an RD (bunny ears) devalues the currency, those things are flat out wrong. Those aren't opinions, they're just plain incorrect.

There are SO many people that trust everything that BL says, it is extremely damaging to the community to have her say things that are undeniably false.

Also (and I know I'm gonna get 30 trillion more for this), I'm not trying to be a jerk, just stating my honest opinion, but I think it calls into question the validity and value of her opinions when she makes statements that are false that are easily proven as such by a fairly minimal amount of research. Like the currency being devalued in 2003. A very quick perusal of the CBI website will tell you that this isn't true, and that in 1995 it took three thousand dinar to equal 1 USD:

+1 for you honest opinion

http://www.cbi.iq/in...php?pid=History

I'm sad that BL no longer feels comfortable posting on DV, as I do think she brings a lot of good information to the table, but Keep shouldn't be blamed for pointing out factual errors in her statements, he should be commended.

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I kind of agree with you on that. I think that the US getting our troops out IS one of the things needed to be done for Iraq to be seen as a truly independent country and for the ball to start rolling on getting more faith in the dinar as a currency and being accepted internationally.

This is gonna be Iraqs biggest test so far and will show whether or not what we want as currency speculators, is gonna be possible or not! If they can hold themselves together we just might be ok!

This is where the faith you have in the dinar is strong enough to hold on and wait it out......

"ball to start rolling on getting more faith in the dinar as a currency and being accepted international"

IMHO When the sanctions are lifted then the WTO or the UNSC. will release and ALLOW their currnecy to be used world wide.

Now the currency is not allowed to be used world wide.

Just wanted to draw the distinction.

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I know I'm going to get 30 trillion negs for this, but I'm going to say it anyway. When BL said that the currency was devalued in 2003, that the 3 zero notes were added in 2003, and that an RD (bunny ears) devalues the currency, those things are flat out wrong. Those aren't opinions, they're just plain incorrect.

There are SO many people that trust everything that BL says, it is extremely damaging to the community to have her say things that are undeniably false.

Also (and I know I'm gonna get 30 trillion more for this), I'm not trying to be a jerk, just stating my honest opinion, but I think it calls into question the validity and value of her opinions when she makes statements that are false that are easily proven as such by a fairly minimal amount of research. Like the currency being devalued in 2003. A very quick perusal of the CBI website will tell you that this isn't true, and that in 1995 it took three thousand dinar to equal 1 USD:

http://www.cbi.iq/index.php?pid=History

I'm sad that BL no longer feels comfortable posting on DV, as I do think she brings a lot of good information to the table, but Keep shouldn't be blamed for pointing out factual errors in her statements, he should be commended.

I happen to agree with your assessment of BL. She reads a great deal; and she does bring all of that info to the table. But, the truth is that she wants to be the "dinar queen", and can't stand it if someone disagrees with her. Silly, but true. Ego, Ego, Ego. Dinar drama at its finest. Keepm just doesn't buy any B.S. Not from anyone. He has studied much of this as well; and he is open to discussion. But, is someone wants to debate keepm, better have facts. Not going to win him over with "dinar stories". And regarding the lop theory, even Adam has said that the lop is "not" out of the question. It's still in the cards, even though he doesn't anticipate it.

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"ball to start rolling on getting more faith in the dinar as a currency and being accepted international"

IMHO When the sanctions are lifted then the WTO or the UNSC. will release and ALLOW their currnecy to be used world wide.

Now the currency is not allowed to be used world wide.

Just wanted to draw the distinction.

I dont believe it is the UNSC that allows or controls whether or not a currency can be used in certain places. Im pretty sure that the control over a currency being tradeable lies in the hands of the CB...or maybe that could be just the CBI but I thought I remember reading that....but as far as deciding who can accept what as a currency, I think that relies in the hands of each individual country.....different countries will have different currencies they deem as being a convertible currency. There are countries that you cant even get dinar in, but yet some like the US it is being exchanged/sold all over...

My reasoning in making the above statement was just simply that I think the global community would/will take Iraq and the dinar a little more seriously once the US is "completely" out (which we never will be) and they can see that Iraqs govt can actually control and run the country like it should....it will add faith to any value they set...

I happen to agree with your assessment of BL. She reads a great deal; and she does bring all of that info to the table. But, the truth is that she wants to be the "dinar queen", and can't stand it if someone disagrees with her. Silly, but true. Ego, Ego, Ego. Dinar drama at its finest. Keepm just doesn't buy any B.S. Not from anyone. He has studied much of this as well; and he is open to discussion. But, is someone wants to debate keepm, better have facts. Not going to win him over with "dinar stories". And regarding the lop theory, even Adam has said that the lop is "not" out of the question. It's still in the cards, even though he doesn't anticipate it.

As one of the vets here from when I first was around, you know me better then most! laugh.gif

Thank you sir Robo! Hows things going on your end? Havent seen you around in a bit!

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