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I have followed your posts and you have a pulse of the big picture. Thanks for putting your reputation on the line, making a call and sharing it, oh and putting up with all the skeptics. biggrin.gif

Dana, thank you as well for putting your reputation out there in support of EGK. I admire your presence and communications here.

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This just in:

Posting on this site is pointless. You are amazing, just the way you are. Have a coke and a smile...

Great song...Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjCoBTzrN9E

I'm glad you like it, Umbertino.

Thanks "back atcha"' :lol::D

I like your ways .. You're evidently an intelligent Individual and you passed that Intelligence on to your daughter. ( along with heart, soul and sensitivity)

Love that special touch,,,,,it's already rv'ed..........

Did you notice the color of that special touch (it's already rv'ed.)? I'll give you a hint... Looks like chocolate mousse.....

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No worries Carrello, you weren't the only one. :) Like I posted, I am still with Vic on this but I honestly hope that he is wrong.

Kathleen, I hope that you get your house too!

Dr. J

Dr. J,

I hope you are feeling better today! I wanted to thank you again for you and EGK bringing your info to us. As some of us remember from last year, bringing an opinion to this forum can be a brutal experience, as you found out. But that is history, and especially here, is unimportant to some. But in your instance, you told us us you did not think we would see an RV last year. Kaboom!

I just read on another site, that Mr. Rich, our old, highly respected commrade.put up a thread about this post, and he is very, very enthusiastic about your information. It has renewed his faith in the possibility of an RV this year. I hope Mr. Rich is not offended that I referenced his post, but this is important as Mr. Rich was a highly respected member here, and many looked for his inisight, and Mr. Rich respects Dr.J comments made here.

So, thank you gentlemen, all three of you. History does play a part in our relationships and information here at DV, and this time when history is applied, it benefits us all that were a part of it and/or remember itt.

But most of all, EGK and Dr.J came forward when they did not have to to share info with people they do not know, hoping to give us all a gift. Selfless. Thank you.

Let's see what happens in the next 2 weeks.

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Dr. J,

I hope you are feeling better today! I wanted to thank you again for you and EGK bringing your info to us. As some of us remember from last year, bringing an opinion to this forum can be a brutal experience, as you found out. But that is history, and especially here, is unimportant to some. But in your instance, you told us us you did not think we would see an RV last year. Kaboom!

I just read on another site, that Mr. Rich, our old, highly respected commrade.put up a thread about this post, and he is very, very enthusiastic about your information. It has renewed his faith in the possibility of an RV this year. I hope Mr. Rich is not offended that I referenced his post, but this is important as Mr. Rich was a highly respected member here, and many looked for his inisight, and Mr. Rich respects Dr.J comments made here.

So, thank you gentlemen, all three of you. History does play a part in our relationships and information here at DV, and this time when history is applied, it benefits us all that were a part of it and/or remember itt.

But most of all, EGK and Dr.J came forward when they did not have to to share info with people they do not know, hoping to give us all a gift. Selfless. Thank you.

Let's see what happens in the next 2 weeks.

Thanks Carrello,

I just shot you a private message with my email address. Please click on your name and check it.

Dr. J

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Dr. J,

I hope you are feeling better today! I wanted to thank you again for you and EGK bringing your info to us. As some of us remember from last year, bringing an opinion to this forum can be a brutal experience, as you found out. But that is history, and especially here, is unimportant to some. But in your instance, you told us us you did not think we would see an RV last year. Kaboom!

I just read on another site, that Mr. Rich, our old, highly respected commrade.put up a thread about this post, and he is very, very enthusiastic about your information. It has renewed his faith in the possibility of an RV this year. I hope Mr. Rich is not offended that I referenced his post, but this is important as Mr. Rich was a highly respected member here, and many looked for his inisight, and Mr. Rich respects Dr.J comments made here.

So, thank you gentlemen, all three of you. History does play a part in our relationships and information here at DV, and this time when history is applied, it benefits us all that were a part of it and/or remember itt.

But most of all, EGK and Dr.J came forward when they did not have to to share info with people they do not know, hoping to give us all a gift. Selfless. Thank you.

Let's see what happens in the next 2 weeks.

Off tops reply here (sorry) but I'd just like to say that :

Ms.Carello- you are the epitome of class :) your posts are always well thought out and enjoyable to read

A lot of people here should 'take a note out of your book'

On an IQD note:

Don't be surprised/upset if it doesn't happen this week. I truly believe we are nearing the end of our adventure here as news is correlating with rumor now.... but I have read at other sources a few people specifically say Happy Halloween.

On the military aspect of things...we've seen articles last month stating no more occupancy, then a few days later they're staying. Pretty sure we'll see this news cycle of events again ;) Just MO

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You know what's really funny? It's the fact that this is true and so many people just can't it won't believe it. Jaded spirits create jaded hope...and without hope it is too difficult to accept facts.

So sad, but I am so glad it is over. Sorry no link.

It's just that we've been told this so often that we are afraid to believe it. I can speak only for myself, but I don't want to go through this again, not unless it's true. So much is riding on it for some of us that the emotional cost is too high--unless it's offset by actually happening.

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It's just that we've been told this so often that we are afraid to believe it. I can speak only for myself, but I don't want to go through this again, not unless it's true. So much is riding on it for some of us that the emotional cost is too high--unless it's offset by actually happening.

Well said! :tiphat:

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You know what's really funny? It's the fact that this is true and so many people just can't it won't believe it. Jaded spirits create jaded hope...and without hope it is too difficult to accept facts.

So sad, but I am so glad it is over. Sorry no link.

And just when will we be cashing in then? Its not over til the moneys in the bank.......

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Before you negative, do some research. Go to Iraqi news. Shabibi even recently stated up to two years or longer. Iraq is not ready politically or financially. Don't put too much faith in pumpers & gurus. Put your trust in what is going on in this world. I'll say a prayer for you that you are right & will find untold wealth.

But remember that Shabibi is probably adding "fuel to the fire" of dinar news in order to give false information so investors will shy away until the RV is completed. We have heard several times that this will happen, and I am fairly sure I have read reports and news items written by his fellow-banker (I can't recall his name) that were either entirely false or included some false data.

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Imagine for a second you are pushing a train uphill with a team of guys and you know the train is full of some stuff that you don't need. But to stop pushing would result in the train rolling backwards. So though you may want to lighten the load of what may be unnecessary... like inaccurate information... and concepts and facts that are important-- you want to keep... ideas based in myth or folklore or propaganda... you would like to get rid of... But you can't at this second.

Letting go of what needs to be done will weaken the effort. Get it on even ground first and then take the time to really attack what isn't important and leave it behind.

Right now regarding the White Hats, we have information that Tman said himself in the 6 hour call in shows. And we have the information on the blog. What I can't include is my private conversations where I asked many many questions and they gave me more detail but not that much more detail. The blog has 5% of the evidence on it, the other 95% is being played as would any skilled poker player...reveal only what is necessary and save the rest if necessary for a trial.

In the real world almost nothing gets to trial...deals are made... That is why I said the world isn't governments or justice but instead syndicates and turf wars.

I grew up believing in our founding fathers quotes even if they were scripted, "Give me liberty or give me death" "I regret that I only have but one life to give to my country" "I have not yut begun to fight."

We now get historians saying some of that stuff was romanticized and yes it probably was but that doesn't take away the philosophy of the statements.... So one side of me wants this country to live up to the hype...

The other side of me has been coming to terms with reality...we have been lied to for so long and divided and conquered... It is closer to every man for himself and family than country...even though it would be wise to protect the fort...

I would like to reserve my full honest open opinion for the book I intend to write if we can get this train up the hill. I disagree with Tman on several subjects but I agree that we first need to create sound principles in the banking system. On one hand we have a corrupt banking system hiding behind our flag trying to make it an us against the world phony excuse to protect our syndicate at the FED, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley...

And in asking for help from other countries with our corrupt banksters we are risking losing America as a sovereign nation and getting globalism in return...

These sort of choices aren't generally accidental... The roads have been leading to Rome and Globalism a long time now but so many died fighting for the very lies that were in actuality not giving us freedom but more bondage...

Right now the world faces chaos....which may be a better ending down the road after a ton of blood... Or certain parts of this totalitarian Goliath throwing some of their more ruthless offenders under the bus to maintain a more peaceful status quo....

Frankly the chaos would probably ultimately serve the masses better in a decade or two but one thing I have seen in the last 10 years is an unreal cluelessness by the masses and have really come to understand how the elite have controlled us so effectively....

People are dumb and selfish and the second they have a deal they can live with, to hell with future generations...Regarding the RV that is exactly what this will be...

we put faith that this line was the one that led to the bread disbursement and so many people told us this line leads nowhere... but we are standing here anyway. We could be wrong or foolish but the other lines seem to be leading nowhere also...

So we have faith in this line.

We want the fresh bread and to save our homes and family.

But it will come with a price.

That price is globalism. The dollar and Americas power will weaken. The UN or some other institution will dominate.

This is the reality.

So who is grown up enough to understand this trade off?

We cannot allow the FED to back up cash with future debt and solidify its strength by bombing countries... Russia and China and the rest of the world will not allow that to continue.

So understand what is really happening here.

We have a world dictatorship of Might Makes Right...and the Godfathers need to divide up the world to maintain their control...otherwise chaos ensues...

We the 99% are so full of misinformation that there is little chance we will form ourselves into our own syndicate... one with plans and purpose and startegy that helps us be part of the power...

Each individual has a head full of lies that they repeat on command...

Only when people understand this will we have our starting point but at this point I think our best hope is a benevolent dictatorship that understands that the control grid can just as easily be managed by mathematical opportunity...

If people have jobs that matter, aren't merely McJobs but something they like and believe in, and if opportunity is so widespread we don't have starving or homelessness... we have a world where every country manages their resources and brains for a better commonality...

We have a world run by a math equation that creates a floor no one slips under but allows for the skys the limit possibilities of intellectual and creative discovery....

THAT'S COMMUNISM!!!

Well, if that is your reaction that is because you see the world in fragments and not as a whole... Yes in part it is communism or socialism... But with education, jobs, careers and free enterprise and intellectual freedom attached it is still liberty... It is the type of liberty any single mother would try and achieve in her home with a budget...how can she feed everyone and facilitate her children becoming the best they can be...

We already have this system but the difference right now is way too many sociopaths and psychopaths see the world as a finite item to hoard and control... and they aren't logical they are just vicious, cold and calculating.

How do we identify the psychopaths and take their claws off the levers of control?

I don't have all the answers but I have the first one...

Understanding history past and present...

I always urge people to google and watch the money masters to begin the understanding of the big picture.

Other than that, I want this RV to be real so I have the freedom to help myself and family.

This huge overwhelming bigger picture is something that can only be tackled by leaders who are gracious and decent... And I have no idea who that is but a pretty good idea who it shouldn't be.

One day my book will try to go further but for now...

GO RV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I just read on another site, that Mr. Rich, our old, highly respected commrade.put up a thread about this post, and he is very, very enthusiastic about your information. It has renewed his faith in the possibility of an RV this year. I hope Mr. Rich is not offended that I referenced his post, but this is important as Mr. Rich was a highly respected member here, and many looked for his inisight, and Mr. Rich respects Dr.J comments made here.

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Yep. He's the one I'm personally still missing among those Folks who chose to leave the site some months ago....But I respect his decision even though I didn't share it then and I keep not sharing it now...

Again.. I respect his free choice... Too bad...He's indeed a bright and analytical Individual.

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I grew up believing in our founding fathers quotes even if they were scripted, "Give me liberty or give me death" "I regret that I only have but one life to give to my country" "I have not yut begun to fight."

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"Live free or die" as quoted on New Hampshire license plates ( If I recall that correctly.....It's been a few decades since I have seen that in the 70's.. Quote might have even been changed since then for all I know )

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It's just that we've been told this so often that we are afraid to believe it. I can speak only for myself, but I don't want to go through this again, not unless it's true. So much is riding on it for some of us that the emotional cost is too high--unless it's offset by actually happening.

Upon re-thinking what I wrote above, I want to add: This isn't to say, however, that if the RV doesn't happen this time, I'll just give up and stop reading new messages of hope. lol I wouldn't do that at all, just not my style. And if those don't work out, I'll keep the faith and keep watching for the time when it does happen. Because it is going to happen. But I sure hope this is the time!! :lol::D:rolleyes::P

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THAT'S COMMUNISM!!!

Well, if that is your reaction that is because you see the world in fragments and not as a whole... Yes in part it is communism or socialism... But with education, jobs, careers and free enterprise and intellectual freedom attached it is still liberty... It is the type of liberty any single mother would try and achieve in her home with a budget...how can she feed everyone and facilitate her children becoming the best they can be...

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We know that some Individuals ( for whatever motive some obvious and some not so obvious) will always deem ANY attempt at Social Justice as Communism or Socialism.

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Upon re-thinking what I wrote above, I want to add: This isn't to say, however, that if the RV doesn't happen this time, I'll just give up and stop reading new messages of hope. lol I wouldn't do that at all, just not my style. And if those don't work out, I'll keep the faith and keep watching for the time when it does happen. Because it is going to happen. But I sure hope this is the time!! :lol::D:rolleyes::P

It'll happen Fran. The PTB understand that you HAVE to HAVE your Bellini on a hot tropical beach! B)

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someone put a prediction post last week and I said October 29 and the rate 4.41...

Of course I hope it is sooner but I think this is a logical guess.

When Tman said, "It has already RV'd... and that it would happen when the Global Settlements were finalized he said he was on his way to sign certain documents pertaining to... so if that went well it would be days after....

My point in sharing was cheering people up figuring they were as bummed out as I was, and with the added info of something significant that happened 3 weeks ago, I was confident it was happening.

Everyone talking about the back screens and the numbers indicating a sudden influx of cash worldwide substantiated what I had been told.

Things like the VND climbing a bit on FOREX seemed very hopeful.... So given the collective information and Jesus folks...it has been 8 years... it is only logical that this is close.

Don't give up now.

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Off tops reply here (sorry) but I'd just like to say that :

Ms.Carello- you are the epitome of class :) your posts are always well thought out and enjoyable to read

A lot of people here should 'take a note out of your book'

On an IQD note:

Don't be surprised/upset if it doesn't happen this week. I truly believe we are nearing the end of our adventure here as news is correlating with rumor now.... but I have read at other sources a few people specifically say Happy Halloween.

On the military aspect of things...we've seen articles last month stating no more occupancy, then a few days later they're staying. Pretty sure we'll see this news cycle of events again ;) Just MO

Freckled, thank you. As a woman, that was the epitome of a compliment.

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Too late.......in catching up on reading some of the posts this weekend, I realized that many of us have lost our sense of humanity. No amount of money can bring that back.

All the more reason for those of us that understand empathy and compassion is more important to humanity than anything else... but know when a rabid dog needs to be put down.

The sane toe that line for the insane.

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LOL...I stopped reading comments on page 3 on Friday night and read some on page 11 today...From what I gather it was probably wise.

Rather than get angry or defensive it is easier to assume what is being said and just stay on point... Restate why and what I believe. For those in support, thank you even if I didn't read your support.

For those against, never stop fighting for your right to be heard.

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LOL...I stopped reading comments on page 3 on Friday night and read some on page 11 today...From what I gather it was probably wise.

Rather than get angry or defensive it is easier to assume what is being said and just stay on point... Restate why and what I believe. For those in support, thank you even if I didn't read your support.

For those against, never stop fighting for your right to be heard.

First I want to say thanks, I believe your intentions are honorable. However, I have been down this road before as have many others who comment here. I am now jaded to this type of information. It's no reflection on you, more of a reflection of the road many have been led down on this investment. I hope your info and contacts are correct, I really want this to happen. Thanks for having the courage to share and to respond to those with questions.

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