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Posted 17/09/2011 08:44 AM

BAGHDAD - Babinaoz: According to political sources said identical there was a move towards majority government Political-Maliki out of the presidency but the presidency of any such remains, however, the "Alliance National. " According to the newspaper, "long" Iraqi sources said that many of the political forces are "Narrow approach up with the President Minister Nuri al-Maliki to expand anti-even point with its partners in government, especially With the Islamic Supreme Council and leader of the "Iraqi National Congress' Ahmed Chalabi."

The sources confirmed that there are mounting calls within the National Alliance to Save Iraq's uniqueness, "referring to the rising influence of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, pointed out that" the coming days will see meetings Some of the leaders of the "Iraqi List" with the leaders of the National Alliance,

As well as joint meetings of the Kurdish political leaders and figures from the Iraqi National Alliance.

A source close to the leader of the Iraqi List, Iyad Allawi, said That most of the political blocs agreed to withdraw confidence from the government and call early elections if no coalition of state law in response to the demands that the paper called for by the Kurdish regional President Massoud Barzani.

This comes at a time of expected sources close to the source of the decision of the coalition of Kurdish blocs, the approval of a coalition of state law on paper Kurdish demands that would bring, the President of the Regional Government of Kurdistan, Barham Saleh, deputy prime minister, Rose Nuri Shaways, and the two hoped their arrival to Baghdad within days.

The paper involves a number of Kurdish demands on the region, such as Article 140 and the oil and gas law, as well as the remaining issues of the Convention of Erbil, a balance, especially in institutions of military and security ministries and the National Council of the Supreme policies And rules of procedure of the Council of Ministers and the knowledge of how the Centre's ability to discuss it then be sent to the negotiating team of Kurdistan or not.

A source close to Allawi's request for Not to be named, for "long" yesterday, "Both the Iraqi and the Sadrists and the Kurdistan Alliance bloc and the Islamic Supreme Council agreed to withdraw confidence from the government and call early elections in the event of continuing head of state law, Nuri al-Maliki exclusivity power and not paying any attention to the demands of the other blocks, and There are two lines going to them the blocks, the first pressure through the Kurdish blocs and the message will be sent out, and the other three conditions to the Sadrists, which some may deem impossible force for a coalition of state law.

State law, for its part, ridiculed the call to drop the al-Maliki, said Mohammed Saadoun Chihod Coalition MP told the "long" yesterday, "The overthrow of the government a form of imagination that need to be approved by some parties in the National Alliance," which he described Palmtmask and very strong on the contrary, which made by Faleh Surrey.

He Chihod "There is no ceiling to the demands of a coalition of Kurdish blocs and Iraqi Both are looking for a partisan interests narrow Valtferd power is not located on the grounds that government decisions issued a majority in the Council of Ministers as well as in the case of the resolution of security, al-Maliki to take decisions together with the officers in the Ministry of Defence and Interior on the basis of the Constitution , "noting" that in terms of talking about the Iraqi security ministries did not submit any name to the moment and all is still the President of the Republic, we did not hear the candidates, but through the media.

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Thanks Carrello! Wow... How fun would it be for all of us to go through an "early" election? I suspect an "early" election measured in Iraq years (similar to reverse dog years) would take approximately 2.5 years after his expulsion. Let the Arab Olympic games begin!

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Thanks for the post Carello......Howdy drox!!

If Allawi has forged an alliance with the Kurds then Maliki is in trouble and these little SOL post that rebuke these shifts in power are just whining because if the Kurds move to Allawi's bloc then Maliki and his party are truly SOL. Palimentarian government allows for the vote of no confidence and Maliki will be at risk as he is a lying no good cat beating dog whacking no good backstabbing green teeth beer drinking no good son of a gun and now he is gonna pay type headed right out the door...............and it's about darn time.

But yeah drox.......early elections..sigh.

"One big festering neon distraction I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied."...................Maynard....Tool.........Maliki!!! Learn to Swim. ;)

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Maliki will be at risk as he is a lying no good cat beating dog whacking no good backstabbing green teeth beer drinking no good son of a gun and now he is gonna pay type headed right out the door...............and it's about darn time.

"One big festering neon distraction I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied."...................Maynard....Tool.........Maliki!!! Learn to Swim. ;)

heh, how do you REALLY feel about him?

Go on, don't be shy...

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Carrello,

What are your thoughts here; do you think Maliki will rely on control of the Military to retain power?

Very interesting turn of the card, if this plays out.

I think that there is so much pressure at this time being put on Maliki from outside sources to either play or leave, that he is going to be happy to get a trunk full of dinar, one change of underwear, and a one-way ticket to Lake Como. He may stage a failed mini coup as part of the drama, and then have to flee for his life, all in the name of righteousness (and his ego), and then he can bcome a martyr.

If our troops were not there, this chapter would look for different, IMO. I would say there have been, or are scheduled shortly, a few sit-downs involving mucky mucks and Maliki, where Maliki is not the leader nor the communicator, but the listener. And he is about to be sent to the corner for a time out. He may be presented with a plan to save face, but he will be expelled, and soon.

We have too much invested for Maliki to become a dictator. And I hate to say it because I wish it were not the way things work, but, the BIG money people are not going to put up with this and get in the way of their astronomical profits. Maliki is a fly in the ointment, and that jar is about to be capped. Or snuffed.

With our troops still in country, I would think that the Arab Spring and the happenings in Libya would make the Iraq military a little uneasy in supporting another dictator at this time. I am not sure of the loyalty the military has to Maliki or Iran, do you know? It would be interesting to know what the man on the street and the military thought of the article yesterday stating Iran was questioning Maliki's position and suggesting he is out.

There is probably a lot of camel jumping going on right now.

I do think that Barzani and Shabibi will be the heros in all of this,and rightfully so.

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Gun toting gangstas.....

Thanks for the post Carello......Howdy drox!!

If Allawi has forged an alliance with the Kurds then Maliki is in trouble and these little SOL post that rebuke these shifts in power are just whining because if the Kurds move to Allawi's bloc then Maliki and his party are truly SOL. Palimentarian government allows for the vote of no confidence and Maliki will be at risk as he is a lying no good cat beating dog whacking no good backstabbing green teeth beer drinking no good son of a gun and now he is gonna pay type headed right out the door...............and it's about darn time.

But yeah drox.......early elections..sigh.

"One big festering neon distraction I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied."...................Maynard....Tool.........Maliki!!! Learn to Swim. ;)

Aenima.....

Gun toting hip gangsta wanna bees.....

Thanks for the post Carello......Howdy drox!!

If Allawi has forged an alliance with the Kurds then Maliki is in trouble and these little SOL post that rebuke these shifts in power are just whining because if the Kurds move to Allawi's bloc then Maliki and his party are truly SOL. Palimentarian government allows for the vote of no confidence and Maliki will be at risk as he is a lying no good cat beating dog whacking no good backstabbing green teeth beer drinking no good son of a gun and now he is gonna pay type headed right out the door...............and it's about darn time.

But yeah drox.......early elections..sigh.

"One big festering neon distraction I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied."...................Maynard....Tool.........Maliki!!! Learn to Swim. ;)

Aenima.....

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Awesome reply; exceptionally well thought out, and I believe it to be an accurate portrayal.

I have always liked the Movie "The Replacements" about the football strike.

One of my favorite parts is when you are watching the ducks serenely moving, gracefully on the top of the water, but underwater is a different story completely; they are paddling like crazy.

Like you, I think there is a lot of paddling going on, and it it isn't looking exactly smooth on the top of the water.

Like so many others, I feel the first part of the solution hinges on the complete removal of Maliki.

I have witnessed similar where a university professor was advocating sedition and revolt to his students. This was in Jamaica, shortly after their independence. The authorities met him the next day on campus, escorted him to the airport, and flew him off the island on the next plane to somewhere else.

The only problem is getting the control of the authorities away from him.

I hope that can be quickly arranged..

I think that there is so much pressure at this time being put on Maliki from outside sources to either play or leave, that he is going to be happy to get a trunk full of dinar, one change of underwear, and a one-way ticket to Lake Como. He may stage a failed mini coup as part of the drama, and then have to flee for his life, all in the name of righteousness (and his ego), and then he can bcome a martyr.

If our troops were not there, this chapter would look for different, IMO. I would say there have been, or are scheduled shortly, a few sit-downs involving mucky mucks and Maliki, where Maliki is not the leader nor the communicator, but the listener. And he is about to be sent to the corner for a time out. He may be presented with a plan to save face, but he will be expelled, and soon.

We have too much invested for Maliki to become a dictator. And I hate to say it because I wish it were not the way things work, but, the BIG money people are not going to put up with this and get in the way of their astronomical profits. Maliki is a fly in the ointment, and that jar is about to be capped. Or snuffed.

With our troops still in country, I would think that the Arab Spring and the happenings in Libya would make the Iraq military a little uneasy in supporting another dictator at this time. I am not sure of the loyalty the military has to Maliki or Iran, do you know? It would be interesting to know what the man on the street and the military thought of the article yesterday stating Iran was questioning Maliki's position and suggesting he is out.

There is probably a lot of camel jumping going on right now.

I do think that Barzani and Shabibi will be the heros in all of this,and rightfully so.

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Either way I'm in for the long haul. I bought in with the lottery ticket frame of mind. Now that I've been in two years I'm trying to get set up to invest before the rv, so if this stalls great I have that much more time. If not then I get in when I can. Actually still waiting on my passport, so I hope it does stall this a little bit.

I honestly don't think Shabbs will wait for me though with inflation on the rise. He'll either rv the currency or come out with even bigger bills. Sooo, we wait.

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Thanks Carrello! Wow... How fun would it be for all of us to go through an "early" election? I suspect an "early" election measured in Iraq years (similar to reverse dog years) would take approximately 2.5 years after his expulsion. Let the Arab Olympic games begin!

Thanks for the post Carello......Howdy drox!!

If Allawi has forged an alliance with the Kurds then Maliki is in trouble and these little SOL post that rebuke these shifts in power are just whining because if the Kurds move to Allawi's bloc then Maliki and his party are truly SOL. Palimentarian government allows for the vote of no confidence and Maliki will be at risk as he is a lying no good cat beating dog whacking no good backstabbing green teeth beer drinking no good son of a gun and now he is gonna pay type headed right out the door...............and it's about darn time.

But yeah drox.......early elections..sigh.

"One big festering neon distraction I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied."...................Maynard....Tool.........Maliki!!! Learn to Swim. ;)

What am I going to do with you two? I take a day (or 3) off and you two ... well, good to see neither of you has lost a step ... lol!

Peace

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Awesome reply; exceptionally well thought out, and I believe it to be an accurate portrayal.

I have always liked the Movie "The Replacements" about the football strike.

One of my favorite parts is when you are watching the ducks serenely moving, gracefully on the top of the water, but underwater is a different story completely; they are paddling like crazy.

Yea cute movie, and nice scene.

Like you, I think there is a lot of paddling going on, and it it isn't looking exactly smooth on the top of the water.

Like so many others, I feel the first part of the solution hinges on the complete removal of Maliki.

I have witnessed similar where a university professor was advocating sedition and revolt to his students. This was in Jamaica, shortly after their independence. The authorities met him the next day on campus, escorted him to the airport, and flew him off the island on the next plane to somewhere else.

The only problem is getting the control of the authorities away from him.

I hope that can be quickly arranged..

I agree that (at least from this distant and perhaps distorted view) Maliki is a problem for doing much of anything. It will be a real test to see if they can resolve something as contentious as his removal without the need to put him on a plane etc. Being able to do so would in itself be a very positive sign.
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What we must see is that Maliki has stones. Alawi is a wuss. Think the Arab Spring will soon come into play. The Iraqi people can not take much more, unless they know that something good is coming and soon.

Sorry sir , but you are incorrect , just because malaki has conflict with alot of goverment sections does not mean he has stones , i think you could call him trying to run his post as a dictarship.

A true douchebag, synonomous with corruption..the iraqis do not want saddam 2.0

As far as alawi goes,he appeals to sunni and shia , has a great relationship with the north with the kurds,can not stand Iran and thinks al sadr is a piece of ..well you know ..

And the best part he plays ball with the U.S. He does not pump the population of iraq with anti american sediment and give them delusions of Iraq is ready to secure their own country .

Guarantee you this , If Alawi runs the show again , you can forget 3k troops staying , try more more like 15k to 20k ....

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Carrello,

What are your thoughts here; do you think Maliki will rely on control of the Military to retain power?

Very interesting turn of the card, if this plays out.

The U.N and U,S would never allow that. When he made that threat a year ago the commander of the U.S forces told him "it would take 15 minutes and he would be taken care of. <_< .

If we had a strong leader, instead of a wuss, we could help put pressure on. All this talk of removing most of our troops, even against military advice, cannot help the situation any.

Your giving him to much credit. :lol::lol::lol:

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If we had a strong leader, instead of a wuss, we could help put pressure on. All this talk of removing most of our troops, even against military advice, cannot help the situation any.

Who got Bin Laden?

Who got the Somali pirates?

How many top Al Qaeda bosses have been taken out in the past 18 months?

Not every action gets a marching band and news coverage, or the landing on an aircraft carrier when the mission is complete......

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Who got Bin Laden?

Who got the Somali pirates?

How many top Al Qaeda bosses have been taken out in the past 18 months?

Not every action gets a marching band and news coverage, or the landing on an aircraft carrier when the mission is complete......

Sorry, I got interrupted. To finish, not eveyone needs to land on an aircraft carrier to receive accollades of a mission complete (reminder: 7 years later and the mission is not yet complete).

If you notice in the News, there was a meeting today with Allawi and US Ambassador Jeffrey, along with Talabani. I did not see Maliki's name included in that meeting, nor have I seen his name in any meetings with United States representatives as of late (please correct me if I am wrong, somehow I know someone will). How do you think US representatives get to these meetings? There was another meeting involving the US regarding the United Nations Chapter 7 sanctions. How do you think these people get direction? From France?

And lastly, you nor I, or anyone we know or will know, have an inkling as to what involvement our President and the United States has on any of this.

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Sorry, I got interrupted. To finish, not eveyone needs to land on an aircraft carrier to receive accollades of a mission complete (reminder: 7 years later and the mission is not yet complete).

If you notice in the News, there was a meeting today with Allawi and US Ambassador Jeffrey, along with Talabani. I did not see Maliki's name included in that meeting, nor have I seen his name in any meetings with United States representatives as of late (please correct me if I am wrong, somehow I know someone will). How do you think US representatives get to these meetings? There was another meeting involving the US regarding the United Nations Chapter 7 sanctions. How do you think these people get direction? From France?

And lastly, you nor I, or anyone we know or will know, have an inkling as to what involvement our President and the United States has on any of this.

These meetings are very important. They are insight or as good as we will get from Iraq papers. There definitely is political play in the air. This is my opinion but Mr. Jeffery has been very busy this past week. He has had many meetings, and correct me if I am wrong I thought there was an article in the last few days with Maliki as well. This is my take on it. I think the US is trying to keep the dramatics down, keep things stable.

I can't help but think the meeting with Allawi and Talabani is making Maliki very nervous. If I were him I would be. I might just decide to pull back and play nice. JMO.

The only person Mr. Jeffery has not had a meeting with is the good doctor, but then maybe that is none of his business. Just saying.....

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