Now Do You See What I was Talking About !

[imgesing]

My fellow investors. Internally they need to keep the value the same or they will make everyone millionares IN IRAQ over night. This wont be done! SO they have been picking up those bills for some time now.

Also introducing electronic means to regulate and control the monitary influence internally. This has been said for some time now. It isnt reflecting what happens to the dinar outside of IRAQ.

Its all good. Relax and wait. I guess we dont have much choice.... lol

Peace

[PD46]

Take a look at this video and check out 7minutes 40 secs, this is where he slips up with the word propaganda

I have listened to that 4 or 5 times, and I was always focused on the translator talking.

Wow! I have never heard that before, because the translator doesn't say that.

A person has to listen very closely, and Shabibi says "Propaganda".

So Saleh is running the propaganda campaign for the CBI more than likely?

Thank you Blonde_Minx for sharing something new with me!

Edited September 11, 2011 by PD46

[YourIntelSux]

For a propagandist to openly admit they are putting out propaganda is absurd.

Again, the word propaganda has a different meaning on the other side of the world from the US. This means, it DOES NOT MEAN there what many here are assuming it means.

Hey, I love getting NEGs for telling the truth!

Gi'me mo'!

What's the truth? How do you know it wasn't a slip up because behind close doors they what the heads of the CBI discuss? He may of meant educate, maybe not, but you don't know for sure either pal, just like the rest of us. Did shabbibi tell you after the interview he meant "educate"? You get on everyones asses posting info based on assumptions, yet you do it yourself regularly.

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Edited September 12, 2011 by YourIntelSux

[Installer36]

Whats with all the negs in this post? Estewart is not instigating crap . I very seldom agree with what he says and all it does for me is look into it and possibly see this investment with a little more opened mind. Its a shame some one cant say something that you disagree with and just move on or reply. The only time I give out negs. is if someone is being rude, arrogant, or condissending . Lets try to keep a bit more open minded to other beliefs or opinions. or should I say I will try that more. Thanks Chris

[YourIntelSux]

What's the truth? How do you know it wasn't a slip up because behind close doors they what the heads of the CBI discuss? He may of meant educate, maybe not, but you don't know for sure either pal, just like the rest of us. Did shabbibi tell you after the interview he meant "educate"? You get on everyones asses posting info based on assumptions, yet you do it yourself regularly.

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Sorry about that grammar, iPad Typing

[Heinzy444]

NO HE DIDN'T!

The word, "propaganda" occurred as a result of a computerized translation. Who knows just what he actually said?

But in any event, the word, propaganda has meanings on the other side of the world which are NOT the same meaning as used in the US. HERE, it has a negative connotation. On the other side of the world, propaganda does not. There, it has more to do with idea of getting information out, and made known. It's not a bad word, there, like it is, here, in the US.

Sorry. Propaganda is Propaganda ... in any culture:

A prime example of propaganda masquerading as fact can be found in the modern assertion by "Palestinian" Arab and other revisionist historians that, even before the dawn of Christianity, an ancient nation-state known as "Palestine", inhabited by "Palestinians", was in existence, and that it continued to exist, even under the yoke of successive conquering empires, until the creation of modern Israel brutally usurped it in 1948 -- the implication being that Today's "Palestinian" Arabs are the descendants of those ancient "Palestinians".

http://www.rosenblit.com/Palestine.htm

Google : "Arab meaning of Propaganda" - it's quite clear it's the same meaning.

[ashtray]

For a propagandist to openly admit they are putting out propaganda is absurd.

Again, the word propaganda has a different meaning on the other side of the world from the US. This means, it DOES NOT MEAN there what many here are assuming it means.

Hey, I love getting NEGs for telling the truth!

Gi'me mo'!

i wasnt a propagandist openly admitting he was using propaganda ...did you listen to it ? .. your analogy doesnt add up like mine does .. .

he slipped up .. he didnt even say the entire word before he catchs himself and covers it up ..thats how it sounded to me .. he actually only says ...>>>propagan<<< .. he doesnt say the entire word propaganda...then he realized he said the wrong thing and covered his tracks.. and explained how all levels would need to be involved .. . which would be true if a propaganda campaign would work .. you would need govt cooperation to have a successful propaganda campaign ..or it could eaisly be exposed ..

i hope you dont think what your reading in these press releases is the truth .... i personally believe theres a smoke screen here and we actually hear very little of the truth ... just my opinion here .. nothing more

remember the coin story .. they said they would have coins this week .... that was about a month ago ... smoke and mirrors creating uncertainty .. over and over .. uncertainty coming out of iraq about its curency.. show me any thing that is certain .. i can most likely show you an opposit article

[chara55]

Estewart..... Maybe you could tell us what propaganda MEANS in Iraq ? you sound so sure that it is different HERE than Iraq, I'm going out on a limb here and say it probably means the same regardless where you are JMO

God Bless

Goooo Rvvvvvv

[drox]

indicating at the same time reject the project if it has proven negative consequences on the economy of the country. ..

So what's plan B? I think this is their last way out to an RV - perfect scenario for an excuse to bounce the 3 zero plan out the door and bring in the new rate - a last minute kind of thing you know, and a great way to save face. This whole ride has been based on pure propaganda - so a perfect ending as I see it.

Heinzy... I totally agree with you. I believe this will be voted down for lots of reasons. They may surprise us and agree to it but I have my doubts. It is very clear to me that they are starting to send Shabibi the message that the currency problem is that it is UNDERVALUED more than the issues with ease of use due to too much in circulation. Either way this kind of dialogue from the Parliamentarians is good for us. I believe that 1170 is simply an arbitrary rate that was designed to benefit the CBI to rein in inflation and build reserves at a greater rate (faster) then a normal situation would have called for. I believe they did this at the expense of the Iraqi people thinking that a few more years of living without will reward them in the future. We shall see.

I think that everyone should be rooting against this Re-denomination and not applauding or thinking those numerous articles mean something else. It has nothing to do with with removing zeros from just the currency notes and bringing in smaller denominations while keeping the same circulation numbers as some suggest. It is a flat out RD and nothing but one. That will hurt us investors big time when it comes to exchanging our notes if the currency doesn't go international before a trade-in window closes or another exchange opportunity emerges. This frightens the Heck out of me since mine are tangible and not in a Warka.

I think its funny you used the word Plan B because I wrote a thread on this very subject back in June and coined it "Plan B". It's long but there are some great responses to it. Good post and article find here Heinzy! Thanks! http://dinarvets.com..._1entry539996

[Blessed4ever]

What doesnt make sense to me... is that Iraqi news articles can be putting out purposeful "propoganda" or misinformation to mess with the rest of the world... BUT... wouldnt they want THEIR OWN PEOPLE to be clear on what is going on??

I can see Iraq trying to keep us off guard (if they truly knew they were going to RV their currrency).. but how does that help their own citizens?

How would the Iraqi people know what in the world is actually going on, and what to expect? How can they keep their own citizens in a state of confusion??

[machcobra]

Very nice find. If you look at this, it does make perfect sense as we all know they need to keep negative until they drop the RV BOMB. Just like we saw the Chinese do.

09.09.2011

Samira Ali Mandi

With the arrival of a bill deleting zeros from Iraqi dinar to the Iraqi Council of Representatives, began the debate in the media representative on the feasibility of adoption of this project at the moment, and raised questions about the assurances of the Central Bank about the economic benefits of the move. The Rapporteur of the Committee of Finance in the Iraqi Council of Representatives Rep. Najiba Najib, said that the Finance Committee discussed with the governor of the central bank and general managers in the bank bill deleting zeros from the dinar and asked to prepare a study on the reasons for its adoption and its advantages on the Iraqi economy, and drew Najiba to fears of rising inflation. Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Dr. Mohamed Saleh He told Radio Free Iraq that the draft law which was submitted to both the government and the parliament, includes all the details of the legislative and executive for the subject of deleting zeros from the dinar and the positive economic effects which would leave if passed, and attributed the fears of some parliamentarians to ignorance of the House of Representatives the subject or the presence of personal motives that lie behind These fears of the politicians or citizens. Chancellor appearance of Mohammed Saleh stressed the importance that has the law to delete the zeros with the consent of the government and the Iraqi Council of Representatives as it relates to the national economy, pointing out that many developed countries have resorted to this decision to reduce inflation and reduce the liquidity excess in Iraq suffers from sagging mass of cash. Congress considered the application of the law to delete the zeros of the Iraqi dinar as negative at the present time in the absence of security and economic stability in Iraq. Which is confirmed by the Rapporteur of the Committee of Finance of the House of Representatives Rep. Najiba which called for the need for economic reforms to increase the value of the Iraqi currency, instead of deleting the zeros. economist Hilal Taan agreed with the opinion of the Iraqi Central Bank's view of the importance of deletion of zeros from the dinar, calling on MPs who worry about the adoption of this law to reduce their salaries instead of blocking a law that serves the Iraqi economy. ruled out Rep. Najiba Najib to be the law was passed during the year due to preoccupation with the financial budget of the Federal 2012, and pointed to the fears of parliamentarians from the exploitation of the law to delete the zeros by Alsemsarh and currency dealers and counterfeiters. expert Economic Hilal Taan see that the concerns of parliamentarians unfounded ruled out for fraud for the new currency or the exploitation of the switch the old currency new currency by the counterfeiters. On his part, adviser to the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh lamented the existence of currents hinder and impede the continued implementation of any project that aims to Iraq's progress. The citizens expressed their concerns on the morning of the deletion of zeros currency they are dealing with for decades. However, 'Abdul Hakim Jassim considered a positive step to delete the zeros in the event of currency maintained in monetary terms with the ease of handling. appearance of the central bank adviser Mohammed Saleh assured the citizens that the Iraqi currency will retain its value and that the Iraqi per capita income will not be affected by deleting the zeros, indicating that the process of switching the currency in the currency new may take a year or more according to the law to be approved by the House of Representatives.

http://www.iraqhurr....e/24323702.html

From an earlier post of mine:

indicating at the same time reject the project if it has proven negative consequences on the economy of the country. ..

So what's plan B? I think this is their last way out to an RV - perfect scenario for an excuse to bounce the 3 zero plan out the door and bring in the new rate - a last minute kind of thing you know, and a great way to save face. This whole ride has been based on pure propaganda - so a perfect ending as I see it.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com...0#ixzz1XfS1dRpW