You Only Believe the Official 9/11 Story Because You Don't Know the Official 9/11 Story

Sirius · September 12, 2011

Sirius,

Your just a $h++ disturber. All you others that buy into all these conspiracy theories have some sort of mental disorder or something. You all should really look for help. Life must be one long, exhausting struggle in the world's you occupy! You certainly aren't living in the real world!

Put your faith in God, love your families and friends, work hard and have a good life. It's way to short to play in the sandbox you've chosen!

You can call me anything you want, you see when one is awake it has zero effect on them and 100% effect on you.

I have worked a long life and my kids are grown and doing excellent, as for my faith, worry about your own, you need it.

We don't "buy" into these "conspiracies" as you call them, we have researched for a decade and interviewed many people

who were there or had family members lost there.

You are not awake, that is obvious so therefore you do not live in a real world, you are stuck living in a fable that has you brainwashed

beyond anything you can comprehend, from your schooling and textbooks to your TV habits and media lies being pounded into your feeble mind.

You think "our" world is a struggle? What a laugh I had from that, we know about many things that will happen now before they do...do you? No.

We have waken up countless people and now we seem to be left with people like you, which is fine as we don't need you, we can handle this

ourselves, just don't expect to jump on the bandwagon after our work is done. There will be no room.

You sit on your butt everyday while the rest of the world is standing up to the same tyranny that is hitting us, that is because they are all awake.

So stay asleep little sheeple, let the adults who have the knowledge fight our fight, we will let you know when it is ok to come out into the real world.

Here is a quote from Obama's senior advisor, who has stated that they are speeding up their plan for a world government because too many of US are awake to their plans.

"It Is Infinitely Easier to Kill a Million People than to Control a Million People." - Zbigniew Brzezinski

People like you TFK actually think we sit around and make this stuff up...I will tell you what I have told many others...if you do start to wake up,

and realize the truth of the "real world" you will crap yourself and that is putting it lightly. These Elites are beyond any evil you could imagine.

Maybe it is best you stay asleep and live out your life in ignorance. Good luck.

Edited September 12, 2011 by Sirius

sportfisher · September 12, 2011

what about the gold?

Sirius · September 12, 2011

What's really weird is the flight school in Florida had no jets to train with. It just had small aircraft. So the idea that anyone who wasn't good at that school could fly a jet is out of whack. Not based in reality.

This exactly compares with the idea that a jet airliner went through a hole 18 feet wide, and the tail produced no effect on the building. Totally whacko idea. And the jet totally disintegrated, too. It vaporized without a trace. A modern miracle!

All the FBI has to do is release just ONE of the dozens of recordings taken that day that they confiscated immediately after the "crash".

Just show us the truth and we will go away...but they won't and that's another smoking gun. They released a few frames with one missing...not good enough.

colt32 · September 12, 2011

All the FBI has to do is release just ONE of the dozens of recordings taken that day that they confiscated immediately after the "crash".

Just show us the truth and we will go away...but they won't and that's another smoking gun. They released a few frames with one missing...not good enough.

Well.. Not exactly true. If they showed us the truth, which the vast majority of the facts about that day are pounting to the entire country if not the world would be in shock. And, what would we do about it? But, in the history of the U.S. the government has not ever been open and honest with it's people. Stupid quote from the first bush a few years ago but it serves my point, and I voted for this clown. "read my lips. No. New taxes." What was the first thing that he did when he was in office? Yep, you guessed it. Passed bills that instated "new taxes". Politicians are very difficult to trust. The thing that concerns me is what's next? If the government can decieve it's people in a vast way like this then the next event is going to be even bigger! Our rights and freedom are at stake. What little we have left anyway.

Sirius · September 12, 2011

Well.. Not exactly true. If they showed us the truth, which the vast majority of the facts about that day are pounting to the entire country if not the world would be in shock. And, what would we do about it? But, in the history of the U.S. the government has not ever been open and honest with it's people. Stupid quote from the first bush a few years ago but it serves my point, and I voted for this clown. "read my lips. No. New taxes." What was the first thing that he did when he was in office? Yep, you guessed it. Passed bills that instated "new taxes". Politicians are very difficult to trust. The thing that concerns me is what's next? If the government can decieve it's people in a vast way like this then the next event is going to be even bigger! Our rights and freedom are at stake. What little we have left anyway.

Well you are correct on the next false flag...it will dwarf 9/11.

umbertino · September 12, 2011

tyron · September 12, 2011

Well you are correct on the next false flag...it will dwarf 9/11.

A dirty bomb in New York by Iranian terrorists. They've already had the drill for it.

colt32 · September 12, 2011

A dirty bomb in New York by Iranian terrorists. They've already had the drill for it.

Hmmm. That's what I was thinking. I just wish there was something I could do about it other than talk.

teddyruxbin · September 13, 2011

Well you are correct on the next false flag...it will dwarf 9/11.

I've even heard rumors of a faked alien invasion used as a false flag

Sirius · September 13, 2011

I've even heard rumors of a faked alien invasion used as a false flag

Yes, that would be Project Bluebeam.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/08/14/project-bluebeam-imminent-michio-kaku-hyping-alien-invasion/.

Edited September 13, 2011 by Sirius

teddyruxbin · September 15, 2011

Yes, that would be Project Bluebeam.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/08/14/project-bluebeam-imminent-michio-kaku-hyping-alien-invasion/.

Hoo boy...that hysteria truly would dwarf 9/11 considering all the conditioning we've had from birth in media about ET invasions.

The only way to scare the Sheeple any more that I can think of is to tell everyone the Aliens have converted to Islam

BTW Sirius..have you yet seen the new movie 'Contagion'.I saw it in theaters and it seems to have NWO Propaganda written all over it.

First it conditions people to fear biological and germ warfare,because the disease has a 40% mortality rate and kills Millions the world over.

World economies seem to crash as a result of the hysteria.And citizens are seen rioting worldwide,looting businesses and killing each other for food and other necessities.Martial law seems to have been declared as military personal are seen engaging citizens and a military curfew is even declared,

Further more they paint the high Govt officials as good people who really want to help the sick and dying.They portray the new 'vaccine' they come up with for the disease as being a good thing.While the famous 'Conspiracy theorist blogger' promoting natural cures in the movie is later revealed to be a cheating con artist that just wanted to get rich.

See how they have reversed roles there and made us out like we are just trying to use and deceive innocent people,when that is really what the govt is doing?Because as informed individuals we know that when these deadly new diseases suddenly appear they will have been created in a lab by the elite.and rest assured unlike in the movie,the 'vaccine' will be used to enslave rather than help you.

chas32 · September 15, 2011

I'm actually the most compassionate person in the world. Everyone in my family has fought and/or died for this country and for what little freedom we have left. I'm just sick of being called the crazy one because I don't believe Bush had anything to do with 9/11. I dislike the gov as much as the next guy but c'mon!

There are others too that have your belief, even liberal Noam Chosmky.

All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off...

-

The Bush Administration

, who failed at everything they ever did. Yet all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history...

Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil have come out for less.

-

The NYC Fire fighters

who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don't even know...

Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.

http://fe.pennnet.co...ay.cfm?Section=

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25&ARTICLE_ID=131225

http://fe.pennnet.co...OnlineArticles&

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Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

-

The courts

for imposing a gag order [sEE above]

-

The NYC Police department

who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

-

The NYC port Authority

who lost personnel. Motive?

-

All the people in the Pentagon

who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...

-

The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11

who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]

-

The media

(This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...

-

The photographers

from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

-

Popular Mechanics

who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

http://www.popularme...se/1227842.html

-

PBS Nova

since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/

-

Everyone in the NIST

who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

-

NY Governor Pataki

because he sold steel from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.

-

The NY city scrap yards

because they also sold steel to China before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the firefighters.

-

EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD

who doesn't write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context, then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is that the engineers don't know about Jones’ work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones' work to any structural engineer?

-Structure Magazine

who published a report saying the collapse of WTC 7 may have been due to one column failing.

-

The liberals who don't believe the towers were brought down.

(Like me) They're helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why? No clue...

-

The CIA

-The FBI

-FEMA

-The American Society of Civil Engineers

who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorists say is impossible is possible

.

-NORAD

-The FAA

who saw planes which conspiracy theorists say never existed.

-The Silverstein Group

who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.

-

Silverstein's

Insurance Company

who didn't question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorists say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.

-American Airlines

(Pentagon)

-United Airlines

(Pentagon)

-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport

for losing the planes

-Scientists and engineers

who developed the remote control plane technology

-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes

(Pentagon)

-Remote controllers of the planes

(Pentagon)

-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology

and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.

-Installers of the demolitions devices

in the three buildings

-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover

-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers

(Pentagon)

-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones.

(Pentagon)

-People who detonated the buildings"

-

anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes

.

Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed. Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involve, the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It's absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long. Absurd...

Update:

A common excuse for no one coming out who was part of this so called 9/11 conspiracy is they fear death. If you analyze the argument carefully you realize they are debunking themselves. Why would even people in the military be more fearful of exposing this than the common conspiracy theorists behind a computer monitor? Either they don't believe what they're saying or they actually think they are more fearless than the thousands of others who would have had to be "in on it". As if people in the CIA or FBI couldn't figure out how to get the message out if they wanted to without exposing who they are. People, dates, places, memos and other evidence could easily be disseminated to the public without exposing who they are. The only reason they claim the people are paralyzed with fear is because they have too in order for the conspiracy story to work.

Noam Chomsky on 9/11 Conspiracy theories

Update:

More from Noam Chomsky

"...I am not persuaded by the assumption that much documentation and other evidence has been uncovered. To determine that, we'd have to investigate the alleged evidence.

Take, say, the physical evidence. There are ways to assess that: submit it to specialists -- of whom there are thousands -- who have the requisite background in civil-mechanical engineering, materials science, building construction, etc.

, for review and analysis; and

one cannot gain the required knowledge by surfing the internet.

In fact, that's been done, by the professional association of civil engineers. Or, take the course pursued by anyone who thinks they have made a genuine discovery: submit it to a serious journal for peer review and publication. To my knowledge, there isn't a single submission.

"

"I think this reaches the heart of the matter.

One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism

directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is,

I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work.

How do you personally set priorities? That's of course up to you. I've explained my priorities often, in print as well as elsewhere, but we have to make our own judgments.

"

"...

I don't see any reason to accept the presuppositions. As for the consequences, in one of my first interviews after 9/11 I pointed out the obvious:

every power system in the world was going to exploit it for its own interests: the Russians in Chechnya, China against the Uighurs, Israel in the occupied territories,... etc., and states would exploit the opportunity to control their own populations more fully through "prevention of terrorism acts" and the like. By the "who gains" argument, every power system in the world could be assigned responsibility for 9/11.

"

I think the Bush administration would have had to be utterly insane to try anything like what is alleged, for their own narrow interests,

and do not think that serious evidence has been provided to support claims about actions that would not only be outlandish, for their own interests, but that have no remote historical parallel. The effects, however, are all too clear, namely, what I just mentioned: diverting activism and commitment away from the very serious ongoing crimes of state.

"

http://blog.zmag.org/node/2779

chas32 · September 15, 2011

Who is Jesse Richard?

Well I guess you can become a journalist in 15 minutes: http://tvnewslies.or...commentary.html

Or this very enlightening thought by Jesse:

Note to the myth huggers:

I have no polite way to say this but after 10 years without real answers ithas to be said...I say this to the myth huggers...shut the hell up already.Nobody as asking you a damn thing. The answers should be coming from the people who originally provided the myth and to the people towards whom the evidence points...and sorry...but those people for the most part are Americans and they were running our country on September 11th 2001. If they gave us answers that made sense or matched the evidence, nobody would be asking for your two cents and in reality, nobody is. SO STOP ANSWERING, WE DON'T GIVE ADAMN WHAT YOU THINK!

Think about it.

Jesse Richard - Founder, TvNewsLIES.org

The above is an old trick that does match,“True ideas are those we can assimilate, validate,corroborate and verify. False ideas are those we cannot” William James. Jesseis not a trained structural engineer, but I guess we should believe him and his no peer reviewed papers.

Or you can donate to his sight

http://tvnewslies.or...ate/offLine.php

You have reached the TvNewsLIES donations page. If you are looking for DVDs, books,etc. you have reached the correct place.

PLEASE CHECK BACK SHORTLY!

Sirius · September 15, 2011

There are others too that have your belief, even liberal Noam Chosmky.

All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off...

Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil have come out for less.
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The NYC Fire fighters
who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don't even know...

Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.

http://fe.pennnet.co...ay.cfm?Section=

OnlineArticles&SubSe%20ction=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=

25&ARTICLE_ID=131225

http://fe.pennnet.co...OnlineArticles&

SubSection=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=25&ARTICLE_ID=130026

Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

-
The courts
for imposing a gag order [sEE above]

-
The NYC Police department
who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

-
The NYC port Authority
who lost personnel. Motive?

-
All the people in the Pentagon
who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...

-
The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11

who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]

-
The media
(This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...

-
The photographers
from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

-
Popular Mechanics
who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

http://www.popularme...se/1227842.html

-
PBS Nova
since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/

-
Everyone in the NIST

who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

-
NY Governor Pataki
because he sold steel from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.

-
The NY city scrap yards
because they also sold steel to China before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the firefighters.

-
EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD

who doesn't write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context, then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is that the engineers don't know about Jones’ work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones' work to any structural engineer?

-Structure Magazine
who published a report saying the collapse of WTC 7 may have been due to one column failing.

-
The liberals who don't believe the towers were brought down.
(Like me) They're helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why? No clue...

-
The CIA

-The FBI

-FEMA

-The American Society of Civil Engineers
who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorists say is impossible is possible
.

-NORAD

-The FAA
who saw planes which conspiracy theorists say never existed.

-The Silverstein Group
who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.

-
Silverstein's
Insurance Company
who didn't question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorists say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.

-American Airlines
(Pentagon)

-United Airlines
(Pentagon)

-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport
for losing the planes

-Scientists and engineers
who developed the remote control plane technology

-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes
(Pentagon)

-Remote controllers of the planes
(Pentagon)

-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology
and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.

-Installers of the demolitions devices
in the three buildings

-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover

-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers
(Pentagon)

-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones.
(Pentagon)

-People who detonated the buildings"

-
anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes
.

Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed. Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involve, the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It's absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long. Absurd...

Update:

A common excuse for no one coming out who was part of this so called 9/11 conspiracy is they fear death. If you analyze the argument carefully you realize they are debunking themselves. Why would even people in the military be more fearful of exposing this than the common conspiracy theorists behind a computer monitor? Either they don't believe what they're saying or they actually think they are more fearless than the thousands of others who would have had to be "in on it". As if people in the CIA or FBI couldn't figure out how to get the message out if they wanted to without exposing who they are. People, dates, places, memos and other evidence could easily be disseminated to the public without exposing who they are. The only reason they claim the people are paralyzed with fear is because they have too in order for the conspiracy story to work.

Noam Chomsky on 9/11 Conspiracy theories

Update:

More from Noam Chomsky

"...I am not persuaded by the assumption that much documentation and other evidence has been uncovered. To determine that, we'd have to investigate the alleged evidence.
Take, say, the physical evidence. There are ways to assess that: submit it to specialists -- of whom there are thousands -- who have the requisite background in civil-mechanical engineering, materials science, building construction, etc.
, for review and analysis; and
one cannot gain the required knowledge by surfing the internet.
In fact, that's been done, by the professional association of civil engineers. Or, take the course pursued by anyone who thinks they have made a genuine discovery: submit it to a serious journal for peer review and publication. To my knowledge, there isn't a single submission.
"

"I think this reaches the heart of the matter.
One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism
directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is,
I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work.
How do you personally set priorities? That's of course up to you. I've explained my priorities often, in print as well as elsewhere, but we have to make our own judgments.
"

"...
I don't see any reason to accept the presuppositions. As for the consequences, in one of my first interviews after 9/11 I pointed out the obvious:
every power system in the world was going to exploit it for its own interests: the Russians in Chechnya, China against the Uighurs, Israel in the occupied territories,... etc., and states would exploit the opportunity to control their own populations more fully through "prevention of terrorism acts" and the like. By the "who gains" argument, every power system in the world could be assigned responsibility for 9/11.
"

"
I think the Bush administration would have had to be utterly insane to try anything like what is alleged, for their own narrow interests,
and do not think that serious evidence has been provided to support claims about actions that would not only be outlandish, for their own interests, but that have no remote historical parallel. The effects, however, are all too clear, namely, what I just mentioned: diverting activism and commitment away from the very serious ongoing crimes of state.
"

http://blog.zmag.org/node/2779

You never quit eh? Popular Mechanics? NIST? they were debunked long ago. You are 8 years behind most of us. Did you just start researching? Give up.

Fire Fighters For 9-11 Truth - http://firefightersfor911truth.org/

Architects and Engineers - http://www.ae911truth.org/

Veterans for 9/11 Truth - http://v911t.org/

Scientists for 9/11 Truth - http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/

Pilots for 9/11 Truth - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

Medical Professionals for 9/11 Truth - http://mp911truth.org/

Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth - http://pl911truth.com/

Religious Leaders for 9/11 Truth - http://rl911truth.org/

Scholars for 9/11 Truth - http://www.911scholars.org/

Actors and Artists for 911 Truth - http://actorsandartistsfor911truth.com/

9/11 Survivors and Family Members Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html

James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division, called for an independent review of the World Trade Center Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable."

Seven CIA veterans denounce the official account of 9/11 as: "a joke", "a coverup", "a monstrous series of lies", "a pretext for war", "not a serious piece of analysis", riddled with "serious shortcomings," "omissions," and "major flaws."

These individuals played significant roles in our national security apparatus from the 1960's through the 1990's. In particular, Raymond McGovern, William Christison, and Melvin Goodman, served at the highest levels of the CIA and each for more than 25 years. We relied on them for decades to collect information and provide analysis that were critically important to America's national security, during a time that America faced far more real and much more serious external threats than anything we face today. We must not now ignore their stunning condemnation of the official account of 9/11.

Eight U.S. State Department veterans denounce the official account of 9/11 as "flawed", "absurd", "totally inadequate", "a cover-up", "a failure" filled with "numerous inconsistencies" and call for a new 9/11 investigation.

These State Department veterans served in the Federal government for decades. They were responsible for formulating and implementing U.S. foreign policy. Their statements demonstrate that the desire for a new, thorough, and independent investigation of 9/11 is not a matter of partisan politics, nor the demand of irresponsible, deranged, or disloyal Americans. It is instead a matter of the utmost importance for America’s security and the future of the entire world. We must not now ignore their stunning condemnation of the official account of 9/11.

41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11 – Official Account of 9/11: “Terribly Flawed,” “Laced with Contradictions,” “a Joke,” “a Cover-up”

More than 40 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency veterans have severely criticized the official account of 9/11 and most have called for a new investigation. Veterans from the U.S. State Department, the National Security Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Federal Aviation Administration, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and the branches of the U.S. Military are quoted.

There are pages and pages of more links and I'm outta here now, you can start some real research on your own or stay where you are with the other sheep.

Edited September 15, 2011 by Sirius

Weapon X · September 15, 2011

chas32 · September 15, 2011

You never quit eh? Popular Mechanics? NIST? they were debunked long ago. You are 8 years behind most of us. Did you just start researching? Give up.

There are pages and pages of more links and I'm outta here now, you can start some real research on your own or stay where you are with the other sheep.

Please Take NoticeThat:

On Behalf of thePeople of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects &Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, atruly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover thefull truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 – specifically the collapse of theWorld Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe there is sufficient doubtabout the official story to justify re-opening the 9/11 investigation. The newinvestigation must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosivesthat might have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World TradeCenter Twin Towers and Building 7.

We, the undersigned, demand the following:

1) A truly independent investigation with Subpoenaand Contempt Powers to uncover the complete truth of the events related to9/11/2001 - specifically the collapse of WTC Tower 7 and the possibility ofexplosive demolition.

2) The investigation to follow the National Standards so clearly outlined inthe National Fire Protection Association guidelines, specifically, NFPA 921 toinclude thorough analysis of the steel for the presence of "exoticaccelerants."

3) Congress to honor the promises made to the rescue workers of 9/11 by passingthe James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2008.

4) Prosecution of all individuals willfully involved in the planning, andexecution of the murders committed on September 11, 2001.

5) Prosecution of all individuals willfully involved in the Obstruction ofJustice and Destruction of Evidence surrounding the events of September 11,2001.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

Again the word possible is used but this petitionasked for the, “We, the undersigned, demand the following: Congress to honorthe promises made to the rescue workers of 9/11 by passing the James Zadroga9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2008. Lines 4 and 5 are asking for prosecution ofall or willing participants or individuals…no mention what individual orwilling participant’s means. Still no proof of your theory, and we should notforget and help the fireman, police or any other 1^st responders of9-11.

It seems most links are about 4 years old or areasking “reinvestigation of theterrorist acts of 9/11." Architectsand Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for9/11 Truth, Firefightersfor 9/11 Truth, and Lawyers for9/11 Truth, and millions of individualcitizens in demanding a thorough, impartial, open and transparentreinvestigation of the terrorist acts of 9/11."

Or

“Actors and Artists for 911 Truth is comprisedof creative professionals working in a variety of mediums, who endorse apetition in support of an open and independent investigation into the events ofSeptember 11, 2001. While we cannot claim to understand the full truth behindthe complex and carefully orchestrated 9/11 attacks, we are certain that theofficial 9/11 Commission Report failed to honestly answer or adequately addressmany significant questions. We created AA911 with the aim of inspiringconscientious citizens worldwide to carefully reconsider the events of 9/11with fresh eyes and open minds.”

They claim not to understand the events of 9-11,but want “fresh eyes and open minds”, and are certain, “that the official 9-11 CommissionReport failed to honestly answer…”

Your point with all the links is what? Citizensin America want to re-open the investigation of the events of 9-11? That is a reasonablerequest. But again that is not proving what you believe is a truth or evencorrect. It just proves that there are Americans who want a better explanationof the events of 9-11 which they call “terrorist acts” and for the governmentto keep their promises torescue workers. And or there couldhave been use of “thermite” and “accelerant”. Do you understand that sulfur isin sheetrock and matches closely to thermite that has been burnt?

Your arrogance is blinding by saying I should domore research. When in fact anyone can cut and paste; stand on their soap boxand spill nothing out of their mouth and then have gull to call it facts. You cannotanswer what level of licensure the terrorist pilots had, you do not understandanything Chomsky said or for that matter the math on the towers falling. Yousir make my day, that anyone would believe your tripe; it makes me laugh. “Sheep”that was funny…

Thanks good post.

Sirius · September 15, 2011

Again, this guy was debunked long ago...disinfo.

"The only building IN HISTORY to burn for 7 hous uncontrolled" ...is that so? Debunked again.

A fire broke out on in the early morning hours of Sunday in Venezuela’s highest skyscraper,

an important government building in downtown Caracas, destroying the top twenty of its fifty floors,

including those which housed the Ministry of Infrastructure (MINFRA), the Motor Vehicle Department, and the Civil Aviation Administration.

During the early morning hours, explosions could be heard as flammable material ignited as well as

the explosion of windows that were reached by the fire.

The fire roared out of control for 17 hours, by which time all floors from the 34th to the top had been burned.

Now is this special "super steel" they used in this building? Why did it not fall in 1 HOUR like the WTC 1? Or in 7 HOURS like WTC 7?

If building 7 fell from infrastructure damage, it wouldn't have fallen straight down,

it would have toppled over in the direction of the damage which was on one side.

There are many other examples of buildings burning for hours out of control, none ever fell.

One actually had the top floors collapse, but the building withstood the upper collapse.

Follow the money, research who the tenants were and who profited from the collapse.

Edited September 15, 2011 by Sirius

flatdawg · September 15, 2011

A dirty bomb in New York by Iranian terrorists. They've already had the drill for it.

Pretty sure it will be Chicago this time.

jmw · September 15, 2011

There are others too that have your belief, even liberal Noam Chosmky.

All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off...

Thanks Chas!...great post....it isn't nearly as sexy and won't sell any books...but it would simply be impossible to pull off. Not to mention the required lack of morals by ALL of these people.

Sirius · September 15, 2011

Please Take NoticeThat:

“Actors and Artists for 911 Truth is comprisedof creative professionals working in a variety of mediums, who endorse apetition in support of an open and independent investigation into the events ofSeptember 11, 2001. While we cannot claim to understand the full truth behindthe complex and carefully orchestrated 9/11 attacks, we are certain that theofficial 9/11 Commission Report failed to honestly answer or adequately addressmany significant questions. We created AA911 with the aim of inspiringconscientious citizens worldwide to carefully reconsider the events of 9/11with fresh eyes and open minds.”

No kidding, that is the goal of anyone seeking the truth...NOBODY I know claims to know "the full truth" behind 9/11, so what is your point?

They claim not to understand the events of 9-11,but want “fresh eyes and open minds”, and are certain, “that the official 9-11 CommissionReport failed to honestly answer…”

Your point with all the links is what? You listed all of them claiming they know the truth is the "official story" So I just listed the same people that are seeking the real truth..period.

Citizensin America want to re-open the investigation of the events of 9-11? That is a reasonablerequest. But again that is not proving what you believe is a truth or evencorrect. It just proves that there are Americans who want a better explanationof the events of 9-11 which they call “terrorist acts” and for the governmentto keep their promises torescue workers. And or there couldhave been use of “thermite” and “accelerant”. Then you would think it would have been treated as a crime scene..it wasn't

Do you understand that sulfur isin sheetrock and matches closely to thermite that has been burnt? Sorry, again debunked long ago...see video below.

Your arrogance is blinding by saying I should domore research. Sorry, but it's not arrogance, like I said before, this is 9/11 101, we are way past all this old news that has been debunked. So more research wouldn't hurt you.

When in fact anyone can cut and paste; stand on their soap boxand spill nothing out of their mouth and then have gull to call it facts. You cannotanswer what level of licensure the terrorist pilots had, you do not understandanything Chomsky said or for that matter the math on the towers falling. Yousir make my day, that anyone would believe your tripe; it makes me laugh. “Sheep”that was funny…You keep referring to people who have been discredited, especially Chomsky (NWO patsy). (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM) - How do you explain his statement on 9/11-“even if was true, who cares?” Nice. Or his other one “Anybody who knows anything about the sciences can discount that evidence?” So all the thousands of Scientists and Architects and Engineers know nothing and this guy does? You are too gullible and provide a load of "tripe" yourself. "Cut and paste", what do you want, me to make an appearance and do a lecture? Get real. I would just provide links but I doubt you would read any of it.

On the video "9/11 Experiments: Eliminate the Impossible"....I look forward to your research results debunking the presented facts.

You sir don't make me laugh, you just sound like the thousands of other sheep that we have woken up over the years, but some like yourself may be beyond comprehending reality and truth.

Pretty sure it will be Chicago this time.

Yes Chicago or San Fran has been rumored, but always watch where and what they are having drills for,

...like the drills about 9/11 and the 7/7 drills on the same day about the same attack.

They might just take out Obama and have another JFK, the Elites are not happy with him.

Edited September 15, 2011 by Sirius

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