( Bondlady chat article 140 9/7/2011 Today at 11:56 am

[trooper]

* bigpuller ( Bondlady chat article 140 9/7/2011 Today at 11:56 am): BLC 9/7/11

September 7th, 2011 01:12 pm · Posted in CHATS & POSTS (Iraqi Dinar Info)

Bondlady’s chat art 140 and troops 9/7/2011

[hogman]

[bondlady] what do you make of the troop reduction from Obama

[bondLady]

if they only give that many troops

[bondLady] then they cant protect

themselves or us

[bondLady] almost have to remove them from ch 7 so they

can own some big guns to protect there country

[bondLady] an iraq they

most all of them want us to protect them but they want to act like they do in

front of the people

[bondLady] they wanna act like there saying to us get

the heck out of our country u infidels

[bondLady] but in reality there

wishing we wouldn’t go an protect them

.

[tobyboy] BondLady Do you know if

still going through with F-16 I know one article talked about they not ready to

control their airspace yet

[bondLady] if nothing else since we gave them

back there military basically for them to do there security an stuff its showed

them all they cant take care of business like we did

[bondLady] an they

have failed big time an the terror attacks are getting worse

[player46]

BondLady ..they sure are ordering a lot of tanks and

aircraft..

[bondLady] almost to the point of civil war if they don,t get

there crap together and fast

[bondLady] don’t know if i answered you or

not hogman, hope so

[bondLady] toby yesterdays had some awesome news

too just switched to the other end of the things needed to be done an

discussed

[bondLady] hcl, art 140, goi ministers, and

erbil

[bondLady] all extremely important too not just cbi

arts

[Hogman] BondLady Thank you, it seems to me that it may be political

on O’s part. Can’t figure if we are wanted there or not?

[tobyboy]

BondLady I think kind of crazy that they don’t continue to have the US to stay

longer they def not ready support themselves military

[player46] BondLady

..I wonder if those 3000 might not be some special ops..I would think they would

be elite bunch!

[bondLady] i watched a documentary a couple months

back

[bondLady] actually it wasn’t a documentary

[bondLady] it was

big shots at a round table

[bondLady] they was talkin about how

manyneeded to stay in Iraq

.

[bondLady] and these were big generals an

stuff talking

[bondLady] and different people from different parts of our

gov an Britain’s

[bondLady] they said so they allow us to have say 5000

troops

[bondLady] that’s military

[bondLady] then your going to

have cia and there people

[bondLady] then you”ll have spec ops people all

different branches

[bondLady] keep in mind that’s not the original

5k

[bondLady] those are just the ones you see out in the

open

[bondLady] by the time all these different agencies set up house

there

[bondLady] there is going to be a heck of a lot more of us there

than any 1 would ever realize

[bondLady] u put say 200 of each agency in

there

[bondLady] some agencies we never even ever heard of before

[bondLady] but by the time all of them have been set up there will be a

huge amount of us there

[bondLady] anyhow

[bondlady] let me get

this art I wanted to talk about

[bondLady] Official:

according to compensate the victims of Article 140 requires years Posted

07/09/2011 08:49 AM BAGHDAD – Babinaoz says members of the Supreme Committee for

Article 140 that the financial allocations to compensate for the displaced and

residents covered by constitutional controls of this article are not

commensurate with the large numbers of citizens. The Chairman of the

Fact-Finding Commission in Article 140 to improve Khah that there are several

offices for the application of Article controls may be needed several years to

compensate citizens if things remain the same. According Arab member of the

Supreme Committee for Article 140, Mohamed Khalil Jubouri to the existence of

injustice against the Arabs arrived, they did not receive only a few of them

compensation checks, and carry the responsibility of the Office of Kirkuk

.

[bondLady] The attention of the Kurds to the existence of political reasons

impeding the implementation of first phase of Article 140, and said that parties

did not call it does not want to implement this article, and said a member of

the Kurdish group in the province of Kirkuk Azad Jabbari that the Kurds are the

most affected, as there are still over 750 villages destroyed expected

population of compensation. For their part, citizens complained of entrants and

deportees slow work in the promotion of their transactions, noting that they are

exposed to many problems because of this, in spite of the formal process of

administrative and legal, which it is based workers in the implementation of

Article 140, and say the policy is still to appear larger in this article

controversial between the various parties in Kirkuk and Baghdad. http://www.babnews.com/inp/view.asp?ID=44512

[bondLady]

see this article about art 140

[bondLady] this is huge and

telling

[bondLady] but i had already talked about it

before

[bondLady] this line right here

[bondLady] The Chairman of

the Fact-Finding Commission in Article 140 to improve Khah that there are

several offices for the application of Article controls may be needed several

years to compensate citizens if things remain the same

[bondLady] if

things remain the same

[bondLady] see art 140 is

settled

[bondLady] an its also part of erbil agreement

too

[bondLady] but the gov has to pay to have these people

move

[bondLady] art 140 mainly dealt with the borders

[bondLady]

an saddam just took what he wanted

[bondLady] so he wanted this part of

Kuwait

[bondLady] maybe even some of turkey

[bondLady] so when

they had to go back in an find the original borders

[bondLady] an give

the land back to its rightful owners

[bondLady] because of sins of the

father

[bondLady] saddam

[bondLady] iraq has to

pay

[bondLady] these people have to be relocated

[bondLady] give

them money for there loss of land property to move, money to find another

place

…………….

.BondLady] an give the land back to its rightful

owners

[bondLady] so when iraq says

[bondLady] [bondLady] The

Chairman of the Fact-Finding Commission in Article 140 to improve Khah that

there are several offices for the application of Article controls may be needed

several years to compensate citizens if things remain the same

[bondLady]

its because this is gonna cost them a lot of money to move all these

people

.

[bondLady] think the kurds said like 750

villages

[bondLady] or something to that affect

[bondLady] lots of

cash there

[bondLady] an they haven’t compensated these people because of

the cash flow

[bondLady] how many dinars at 1170 rate it would be

trillions

[bondLady] so they don’t want to let go of that kind of

money

[bondLady] especially when there an rv on the

rise

[bondLady] so they say

[bondLady] [bondLady] The Chairman of

the Fact-Finding Commission in Article 140 to improve Khah that there are

several offices for the application of Article controls may be needed several

years to compensate citizens if things remain the same

[bondLady] the

application of Article controls may be needed several years to compensate

citizens if things remain the same

[bondLady] if things remain the

same

[bondLady] now if they dont remain the same

[bondLady] an

they rv then pay them

[bondLady] they have to spend a whole lot less an

with a new rate

[bondLady] which is prolly what they are waiting

on

[bondLady] things will settle down on the borders

then

[bondlady] drops the mic and walks off

[frankc]

Thanks Bondlady.

What did we build 9 bases there for if we're taking all our troops out?

[Papster]

BL thanks for the chat........what do you make of this........appreciate your insight.......GO DINAR

US Denies Report on Troop Cut in Iraq ...

September 7, 2011

US denies report on troop cut in Iraq

Washington - The White House on Tuesday denied a report that the Obama administration has decided to slash the number of US troops in Iraq to 3,000 at the end of the year.

Quoting "multiple sources familiar with the inner workings and decisions on US troop movements in Iraq," Fox News reported Tuesday that the number of US troops in Iraq will be reduced to 3,000 at the end of the year, a proposal that has been approved by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.

Press Secretary Jay Carney responded with a flat "no" when the accuracy of the report was questioned at the White House's daily press briefing.

The administration is "in negotiations, consultations with the Iraqi government about what our relationship with Iraq will look like going forward," Carney said.

"We want a normal, productive, healthy relationship with Iraq," he said. "If the Iraqi government makes a request of us, we will certainly consider it."

More than 40,000 US service members are now stationed in Iraq, and they are to pull out completely by the end of 2011, according to a security agreement signed in 2008 between Baghdad and Washington.

http://www.chinadail...nt_13636142.htm

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Thanks Bondlady.

What did we build 9 bases there for if we're taking all our troops out?

trooper thanks for the post.......appreciate your efforts........frankc according to this article we have 43 bases in Iraq......so who knows........GO DINAR

Kurdish leader says Iraq needs US beyond 2011

By REUTERS

Published: Sep 6, 2011 21:34 Updated: Sep 7, 2011 00:34

ARBIL, Iraq: Iraq needs a USmilitary presence beyond this year and the withdrawal of American forces will increase the possibility of civil war, the president of Iraq’s semi-autonomous Kurdish region said on Tuesday.

With less than four months to go before a 2008 security pact between Washington and Baghdad expires, Iraq’s government is having trouble deciding if it wants some US troops to remain beyond a year-end deadline for their withdrawal.

Kurdish officials are widely known to want US forces to stay, particularly as a buffer in the oil-rich city of Kirkuk and other disputed territories claimed by both the central government in Baghdad and the Kurdish government in Arbil.

But Kurdish president Masoud Barzani’s comments in a speech to Kurdish diplomats in Arbil on Tuesday was one of the most forthright statements on the issue by any Iraqi leader to date.

“In our opinion the need for the US forces in Iraq is still on ... the absence of US forces in Iraq means the possibility of civil war will prevail,” Barzani said.

More than eight years after the US-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein, the United States still has about 43,000 troops and 43 bases in Iraq.

Any decision to extend their presence is risky. Many political groups are hesitant to take a clear position.

Anti-US Shiite cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr, a key member of Prime Minister Nuri Al-Maliki’s coalition government who openly opposes any continued US presence, has threatened to escalate protests and military resistance if American troops stay.

Maliki has said Iraq may need only trainers rather than troops, which would allow him to bypass parliament and sign deals between Washington and individual ministries.

“A US presence in Iraq, under whatever title, is important for Iraq,” Barzani said. “Iraqi security forces have not reached a level that can provide security inside Iraq. Neither can the Iraqi military forces protect Iraqi borders.

“(In) a country that has no qualified military to defend its soil, airspace and shores, its security forces cannot protect its citizens,” he added.

US forces officially halted combat operations on Aug. 31, 2010 and took up an advisory role to the Iraqi police and army as they struggle to battle a still lethal Sunni insurgency and Shiite militias that carry out dozens of attacks every month.

Some Iraqi politicians and top military officials have said that Iraq’s security forces cannot contain the threats alone.

Washington has repeatedly pressed Iraq to decide soon whether it wants any US troops to stay.

Barzani criticized Iraqi politicians for what he called a double standard. He said they want US forces to stay but refuse to say so publicly.

“All the political parties say one thing when they speak directly. But they say something else before cameras,” he said.

they keep saying, they need us thier. I like the last line: they say one thing on camera and do something else

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[R2d2dc]

Thanks BondLady!

[THINK.....]

[bondlady] drops the mic and walks off

Now you went and broke it.......you know you're going to have to pay for that now.

[wpsmit]

Lots of good information in this thread!

Thanks, all