US holding dinar for profit??

[SonnyB]

You're a 20 year old IDIOT.

[/quote Well I have stayed off for a little while and come back to see the same old B.S. Nice job Jury. gezzzzzz

[Tootles]

Why the name calling? If you dont agree, state why or move along, seems simple.

The name calling is why I dislike this forum. Other forums seem to attract educated folks who can state a fact without name-calling. Who's the idiot here?!?

[caz1104]

Black Ops' bank accounts aren't on the books.

Open mind. Open mind. Open mind goes both ways.

1st thanks Keep & Ashtray for the info provided. Buuuuuuuuut if one thinks the books tell the whole story I must respectively disagree. Part of what our our Govnmnt does best is lie & decieve. I'm not sayin I have any proof as to mass amounts of Dinar but it would'nt surprize me. As for cookin the books comapnaies & Gov's do it all the time, I know cuz I do with mine. Best to all

Edited August 22, 2011 by caz1104

[sfredieu]

DALITE

I thought it was for weapons for mass destruction you mean they lied to us,I just can't believe that are gov would mislead us,But it's not possible they are not holding dinar somewhere without being truthful.I don't care what you think but you can't go to war because of the use of your currency.oh yea and the country just happen to be one of the most wealthiest country in the world.this whole war thing with Iraq has had a hidden agenda from the start so quit being ignorant about the wrong doing of this country. Yes we are a great country, that don't mean are gov tells us the truth about anything they are doing that is the whole reason for the word classified so they can do stuff that isn't completely right or honest.Wake up

[quantumleap]

A FAMOUS QUOTE COMES TO MIND

BY ONE OF THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION,

"BELIEVE HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE AND NONE OF

WHAT YOU HERE."

[qzee]

Keepm's comment was "Not to mention if the US is hiding all this dinar from prying eyes and then all of a sudden they pop out of no where and announce to the world that we have 4 trillion or so dinar that we have at a RVd rate and now we can pay off our debt and other things, how do you think that will look in the international community especially since we went in and invaded iraq for wmds but yet still no evidence was ever found LOL......it would be a total outrage in the international community and someones head will roll for it...."

Thanks for addressing my comment. But I really don't see how the US has ever given much of a crap about how we look to the international community. If the US cared, they would not have gone in in the first place under the premise that it said it did. The least they could have done is said the truth about why they did it. Instead little sound bytes from Bushy boy like "this war will pay for itself" are made. I really think we have to read between the lines. The US is more stupid than I thought if they don't have some dinars stashed away now.

Edited August 22, 2011 by qzee

[SomethinSeriouS]

Black Ops' bank accounts aren't on the books.

Open mind. Open mind. Open mind goes both ways.

I agree, I agree, I agree

[Alex38]

It would seem a bit odd to me if they WEREN'T holding dinar. Just MO... I truly believe that we DON'T know ALL of what goes down behind closed doors...

For instance... how many on here have kids? How many of you close the door to your room on a Sunday afternoon for a little "roll in the hay" with your better half while your kids are watching spongebob? HAHAHAH...

It's all the same...

[Dalite]

DALITE

I thought it was for weapons for mass destruction you mean they lied to us,I just can't believe that are gov would mislead us,But it's not possible they are not holding dinar somewhere without being truthful.I don't care what you think but you can't go to war because of the use of your currency.oh yea and the country just happen to be one of the most wealthiest country in the world.this whole war thing with Iraq has had a hidden agenda from the start so quit being ignorant about the wrong doing of this country. Yes we are a great country, that don't mean are gov tells us the truth about anything they are doing that is the whole reason for the word classified so they can do stuff that isn't completely right or honest.Wake up

I can just tell you what the driving force behind the operation was; I can't make you believe it.

You don't have to look further than Libya, which was posturing for a similar change in the petro payment structure to reinforce the point I was making.

When all countries have to build USD reserves to purchase oil, and do not have any other means of purchasing the necessary volume using their other reserves, a change to the Euro would have brought the entire world's economic systems to their knees. That much is a given, and cannot be denied by anyone that takes the time to consider the ramifications,

It's not just the money of the US, it is the reserve currency of the world. It would be the same if you made plenty of dollars, had plenty saved up, and it was decided that groceries and gas could only be paid for using Euros; in fact all of the world's groceries could only be paid for in Euros....

So, do I believe the government is transparent? No hardly. I don't think there are too many folks that would enjoy knowing some of what we face, and may or may not ever happen. I don't think there are really that many that really care, and I certainly don't believe that the majority of our citizens have any interest in keeping up with world events and how they may shape our lives.

As far as the US owning Dinar.... It is possible, but the cost of flying in large amounts of dinar to the US for future speculation is more than the dinar is worth; even at twice the price.

The way it is looking now, if they did, they would have to fly it all back to Iraq to exchange it for new currency, and continue holding that for a RV, of a magnitude that has never been experienced in the history of the world, by a country that can barely support it's people, give them electricity, water, food to eat, or security.

If you choose to believe we are holding large amounts of a third world currency that will be soon replaced, requiring the expense of exchanging it, as a vehicle to save our economy and pay our debt..... Then there is nothing I or anyone here can say to sway your beliefs...

But, you should really try to step back and try to view the complete picture.

One thing for sure, sometime in the next three to ten years, we will know for a fact how many of these pumper lies and guru tales were actually true.

Until then, we have to be aware of our surroundings, and what can be verified...

[UofIGuy]

You're a 20 year old IDIOT.

Why would you say that? That is SO uncalled for...

[fastarnie]

Black Ops' bank accounts aren't on the books.

Open mind. Open mind. Open mind goes both ways.

No doubt. We were one of the ones who printed the money in the first place, right? How hard would it be to hide? Our government would never try to hide anything from us, right? IMHO I believe our government to be crooked, so that makes me believe when they printed the money someone was there doin the ol one for you two for me trick with pallets. I don't know.

[Spud]

The name calling is why I dislike this forum. Other forums seem to attract educated folks who can state a fact without name-calling. Who's the idiot here?!?

At least it gets my heart rate up, I don't know how else to do that from the couch! There are plenty of educated people here. When you respond with "who's the idiot here?" it make you no better than the guy who said it in the first place. Free speech baby! I'll take it any day!

[keepmwlknfny]

I can just tell you what the driving force behind the operation was; I can't make you believe it.

You don't have to look further than Libya, which was posturing for a similar change in the petro payment structure to reinforce the point I was making.

When all countries have to build USD reserves to purchase oil, and do not have any other means of purchasing the necessary volume using their other reserves, a change to the Euro would have brought the entire world's economic systems to their knees. That much is a given, and cannot be denied by anyone that takes the time to consider the ramifications,

It's not just the money of the US, it is the reserve currency of the world. It would be the same if you made plenty of dollars, had plenty saved up, and it was decided that groceries and gas could only be paid for using Euros; in fact all of the world's groceries could only be paid for in Euros....

So, do I believe the government is transparent? No hardly. I don't think there are too many folks that would enjoy knowing some of what we face, and may or may not ever happen. I don't think there are really that many that really care, and I certainly don't believe that the majority of our citizens have any interest in keeping up with world events and how they may shape our lives.

As far as the US owning Dinar.... It is possible, but the cost of flying in large amounts of dinar to the US for future speculation is more than the dinar is worth; even at twice the price.

The way it is looking now, if they did, they would have to fly it all back to Iraq to exchange it for new currency, and continue holding that for a RV, of a magnitude that has never been experienced in the history of the world, by a country that can barely support it's people, give them electricity, water, food to eat, or security.

If you choose to believe we are holding large amounts of a third world currency that will be soon replaced, requiring the expense of exchanging it, as a vehicle to save our economy and pay our debt..... Then there is nothing I or anyone here can say to sway your beliefs...

But, you should really try to step back and try to view the complete picture.

One thing for sure, sometime in the next three to ten years, we will know for a fact how many of these pumper lies and guru tales were actually true.

Until then, we have to be aware of our surroundings, and what can be verified...

Very well put!!! While it is possible for them to have some dinar, I just feel with a lot of the evidence brought forward it seems like a stretch to make it fit the situation being that the US is holding onto this dinar for a RV so they can cash out.....

As far as I'm concerned it looks like our main motive for the invasion was oil.....we just tacked on the WMDs for good measure....

People can continue to believe that we are holding mass quantities of dinar if it makes them feel better about buying dinar but as it stands there is no factual information supporting that theory.....it just sounds nice and I think a lot of people hold on to that thought because it solidifies the investment for them.....

[sheik]

WalkinFunny- I must say, you hit the nail on the head every time.Nice post.

[sfredieu]

Dalite and keeps

I am not saying they will wait for a rv and then cash it back in rite away or fly it over in planes,they could always turn it into electronic funds and destroy it.Even if they did put it back on a plane they would not advertise it on your daily news you would never know about it.you and keeps can't be this nieve to believe that the gov has to report everything they do to us.You would never know like right now you really believe they are not holding dinar even if it is in a different Corp name trust me if this thing rv at .86 like the article says the gov will have their hands in the pot.

[Dogmatic1]

So even if it was some kind of secret, NO ONE would have heard about it or know about it so to think that some of these people actually try and give figures for what the US holds is just rediculous and funny to be honest......

That's because their super~duper, high~up the chain of command and their oh so secret contacts (they would have to kill you, if they told you) told them our government had $30 trillion dinar ~ they also tell them to expect an rv, everyday! I personally, think their contacts are 13 year-old wannabe terrorists, just messin' with them!

But, also think it's very possible, our government is holding dinar ~ just not sayin'

[4aprofit]

Besides the weapons of mass destruction that were'nt found in Iraq....find out where all of the gold went...that was said to have dissapeared from Iraq at the beginning of the war...and then you might find out if any extra dinars might by chance...have slipped away, on one cold rainy night...lol.....You probably won't get the answers to ANY of the above...with that said...ALL else about this is a lost cause....for what it's worth?.....

[keepmwlknfny]

WalkinFunny- I must say, you hit the nail on the head every time.Nice post.

Thank you sir! I try.....lol....

Dalite and keeps

I am not saying they will wait for a rv and then cash it back in rite away or fly it over in planes,they could always turn it into electronic funds and destroy it.Even if they did put it back on a plane they would not advertise it on your daily news you would never know about it.you and keeps can't be this nieve to believe that the gov has to report everything they do to us.You would never know like right now you really believe they are not holding dinar even if it is in a different Corp name trust me if this thing rv at .86 like the article says the gov will have their hands in the pot.

Of course I don't believe that they are upfront about everything cause I know they aren't.....I just find it funny that the idea is almost taken as fact around these boards with no supporting evidence ya know? I just wonder now if a currency is deemed non convertible do they have to change the currency all together to change the status and for it to be considered a convertible currency.....I will have to look into that but if that's the case then it wouldn't make sense for any country to be holding dinar because of the restrictions on it.....

[imgesing]

But you will believe the statements made by the gurus that we do hold trillions of dinar and that it will save our economy? LOL

If the fed reserve is holding it, what makes you think its for the govt? They are their own entity and really are not related to our govt. At all.....

I'm really not sure how you came to this conclusion from me stating there is nothing proving that the US holds massive amounts of dinar.....I'm not sure what ur getting at, could you explain your statement please?

We in South FLA are getting ready for a HURRICANE...

Keep, as always you make a good point. But like you stated it isnt proof positive.

GURUs must be making some profit to spend the time they do. Or those who dont are just great people who have nothing better to do. LOL

I myself am tired of this site and the false intel etc. I dont know why you keep on keeping on. But hey more power to you. I have learned a lot myself in the last year.

I always feel badly for the NEWBIE. Having rushed out to buy more from BS here.

I hope this thing doesnt take more YEARS as it already has. It is extreemly frustrating!

Be Well...

PEACE

(ohhh and sorry for the last post going duplicates of 4... DAM HANG UP of computer or something)...

[WILLB]

is there any credibility to this??? would confirm the US had Iraqi money at least..may have to scroll to the top of the thread to read it

Will

My link

Edited August 22, 2011 by WILLB

[Dalite]

You guys try to stay dry and keep out of the wind.

Up here in SE Ga, the phone has been ringing and email flying about activating the Emergency Operations Center, and activities within a few federal entities that I do emergency communications for on a volunteer basis.

It is looking like it is headed more towards Charleston, SC now, but it was bore sighting Brunswick earlier today.

Keep us informed on how things are as it passes by.

We can get back to arguing about Dinar after this one is over.

This will be our first Atlantic Hurricane of the season.

We in South FLA are getting ready for a HURRICANE...

Keep, as always you make a good point. But like you stated it isnt proof positive.

GURUs must be making some profit to spend the time they do. Or those who dont are just great people who have nothing better to do. LOL

I myself am tired of this site and the false intel etc. I dont know why you keep on keeping on. But hey more power to you. I have learned a lot myself in the last year.

I always feel badly for the NEWBIE. Having rushed out to buy more from BS here.

I hope this thing doesnt take more YEARS as it already has. It is extreemly frustrating!

Be Well...

PEACE

(ohhh and sorry for the last post going duplicates of 4... DAM HANG UP of computer or something)...

[Dalite]

is there any credibility to this??? would confirm the US had Iraqi money at least..may have to scroll to the top of the thread to read it

Will

My link

Will,

I believe this was a part of the Frozen Assets. They fell under EO 13315; which was encapsulated in EO 13303.

It had been rumored that large quantities of US Dollars were paid to various War Lords, on a regular basis, to keep them from breaking things and shooting people.

If this is the case, you can bet they didn't get receipts to turn in to the accounting department.

It has also been rumored that the frozen assets totaled up to 250 billion, when recently added to what used to be the DFI fund.

These are things we may never know for sure, as money was flowing in and out of the country, but our part seem to be in moving Dollars in and out; as well as restoration of frozen assets in dollars.

Again, the Dinar was worth half as much then, as it is now, so I don't know what the attraction would have been to stockpile it.

Someday, everyone will know the progression a bit better.

[WILLB]

it also seems to indicate that these were indeed iraqi funds and or currency does it not?

Will

[zigmeister]

It had been rumored that large quantities of US Dollars were paid to various War Lords, on a regular basis, to keep them from breaking things and shooting people.

Read more: Something about the way you put that just cracks me up!

[Dalite]

it also seems to indicate that these were indeed iraqi funds and or currency does it not?

Will

.( (.. He said the central bank in case of that period if all the institutions of the state was subject to the Coalition Provisional Authority ((CPA and Bremer is the civilian administrator of Iraq in that period, stressing that the Central Bank of Iraq did not have money of its own base of this size. .. Zkrnaúb and Central Bank Governor that the funds in that period belongs to the Iraqi government, which was run by the then civil governor Paul Bremer.

I can only guess from the above statement that this was dollars, as the CBI governor said the CBI did not have money of it's own base (dinars) of this size.

.130. She said, "The Guardian" The United States sent a year after the invasion of Iraq, about 281 million notes of one hundred dollars weighs 336 tons of Iraqi money frozen from New York to Baghdad to cover the expenses of Iraqi ministries and U.S. contractors on the back of transport aircraft giant C-130. .. Details have emerged relating to the shipments of huge funds under a memorandum of specially prepared to meet with a committee of the Congress shall scrutinize the reconstruction in Iraq.

I'm not saying there was or wasn't wrong doing, but this appears to be dollars, not dinar.