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Networth, Im sorry it took so long to get back to you. You sound tired of the BS as do many of the folks that have been on this ride. I hope I have not offended you in any way. Where I differ from the others is that I am in no way affiliated with a vendor of dinar. I am not an investment broker, nor even a stock holder in any other areas. Im simply a hopeful man, that has made this investment decision base of what I have been able to find to as close to fact as I can prove. Yesterday when I posted this you will recall the elements that I believe had to be in place in order for the RV to take place.

Below are three links showing these things occuring today. I hope this gives you some sort of grounding. I dont believe that if we cant see it, it is not happening. No matter what there will always be a speculative element to investing. I am trying my darnest to narrow the speculation and increase the fact, based on the information at hand.

I hope you can find some peace in this prediction, if it occurs my best wishes go with you and yours. If it does not, I will work on the a tighter scale for the next plausable date. I hope as badly as the rest of the folks on this site that I have called this one right. Its much bigger than ego, or anything that personal. For me its about sharing another way to look at what is in front of each and everyone of us.

Implemented- here it is breaking news!

http://dinarvets.com...ext-and-spirit/

The HCL - here it is - Breaking news!

http://dinarvets.com...government-law/

GOI - here it is !!!! breaking news!!!

http://dinarvets.com...ithin-two-days/

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/78283-why-an-rv-will-be-done-by-sept-15/page__st__40#ixzz1UBfnlvzs

God bless you and yours with only the things he can provide.

Respectfully, always.

Quietlearner

"Buy on thee Rumor, Sell on the News

Quietlearner

Thank you for being so nice in your reply. We need alot more like you here! I think we are all frustrated at how long it is taking and all the predictions have exhausted us all. But instead of being mean or negative when someone states an opinion we should all realize just how fed up everyone is, and in this economic climate there are alot of people depending on this coming in. Our hopes have been crushed so manytimes.

So I sincerely thank you for realizing this and not blasting the replys! And I agree with the post I read that after this ride is over I would love to celebrate with you and yours!

PLUS 1!!!

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QL.... What's up buddy??? Glad to hear you keep on keepin' on. biggrin.gif How did that boy do in T-Ball? Should be time for some flag football now. I am coaching my son's 9yr old tackle team now. So fun. I coached his baseball team too. It took me awhile but I got my priorities straight in life. Hope the reading is coming along without breaking too many windows with that book. wink.gif

Erbil and HCL are important. It is also crucial that they amend the 2006 investment law though. Too many holes need filling in that law for Iraq to substantially RV without it IMO. I am hoping they address that before HCL actually. Hope you are right about the date though. D!

Good Morning Drox,

Likewise, I am pleased to see you too. I had hoped to hear from you again. Thanks for your wonderful words of wisdom and that insufferable, incredible, mind twisting, emotional, horribly wonderful, booK!!!! It sits next to the BEAT OF A DIFFERERENT DRUM and at any giving moment it may be found across the library on the floor next to HEALING THE CHILD WITHIN. I cant tell you how wonderful that book has been for me.

I have not been able to participate with my younger, as I have had to agree to a near lethal doses of Chemo to check this stuff again, It is however, hand in hand with some very serious natural curative attempts. I figure Im 4 and 1/2 years past the oppositions (modern medicines) D day prediction so I am taking each day at face value, along with a healty dose of appreciation for the simplest of things around us each and everyday. The sun feels better than I can remember. I have been out on what my kids have renamed the log, (my favorite old long board) every morning for the past two weeks. I hit the water around 4:30 am. For me its much more than the surfing but more now, the joining of the elements of life, you know? As I sit on my board and the incredible for power of the ocean run around my legs, I feel the energy pushing through the bottoms of my feet, it call me to emerse myself in the awsome healing it offers. No longer is this body of water a simple sports areana but rather a place of spiritual and physical healing that is so profound I have not words to describe it. I go from the reassuring hug of the mighty pacific safety up onto my board as the sun washes the rays of the life of all things over my face and down through my body lighting fires of healing and understanding that brings me to my knees. Holding my arm in the air, crisp and clean, carrying the scents of the might pacific mixed with the scents of the morning anew I cry, tears of understanding and hope, a tribute, a personal tribute, falls from my blackend eyes back to where so many have paid the same , this place where I feel most safe and well. I then speak to my creator, I humble myself and ask for more, always more, Yesterday I realized for me it was time to give thanks for what is here now, and yesteday and those days that have allowed the many times of joy in my life. Those times, so simple, yet more complex than we can understand, things like a star lit night, the birth of your child, a star lit night, a friendship filled with sharing and love unconditional, and a star lit night. The great energy of what we have named Sun then begins it work. The two greats then joining the third, our great mother, merge their perfect harmony and I only need listen to hear the beautiful music that occurs from the union on what we call the shoreline, Life happens and these things are truly magnificent. Im healing Drox, with each moment I am gifted with a new way to view what has become to many a thoughtless routine. Have you ever stopped and really watched a humming bird, a sunset and rise, your childs changes from one day to the next. So perfect, so sweet this life is. I am finally realizing how rich I am. Not a dollar left in the bank, A truck load of dinar, and the richest man I know. My family and friends are my assest's, the only assest's that truly matter, my dividends are now paid with each sweet breath I take in...... I am alive Drox, I am dying Drox and I love that damm book!

Im going to hold you to that get together. Furture, I will invite you to the youngest college graduation, and will expect to be at yours. Those should be some of the best reasons I can come up with to continue to read that rotten wonderful book!

God Bless my friend,

Quietlearner

"learning to die so I can live"

Very good post, Well Done! I enjoyed the read.

I feel we are getting close!

Go RV!

Thanks Armydog, a pleasure to meet you. I appreciate your response. If you are across the water right now, thank you for your sacrifices so my childeren and I can continue to enjoy our liberties and freedoms. Come home safe and know God is blessing you for your bravery. If your not and you have allready served, then thank you for your sacrifices so that my children and I can continue to enjoy our liberities and freedoms.....

I want you to know that if there is anything we can do for you to make your time away or here in the States better, please feel free to call upon us as we sir, are at your service,

With the utmost respect,

Quietlearner

Quietlearner

Thank you for being so nice in your reply. We need alot more like you here! I think we are all frustrated at how long it is taking and all the predictions have exhausted us all. But instead of being mean or negative when someone states an opinion we should all realize just how fed up everyone is, and in this economic climate there are alot of people depending on this coming in. Our hopes have been crushed so manytimes.

So I sincerely thank you for realizing this and not blasting the replys! And I agree with the post I read that after this ride is over I would love to celebrate with you and yours!

PLUS 1!!!

Mzrebecca,

Thank you for your response. I must tell you I have tried the other way as Im sure, JMW can affirm. It left me feeling as if I had actually hurt someone I did not even get a chance to meet. I was fortunate enough to be given the opprotunity to catch a moment of clarity, realize how awful I sounded, and appoligize for my outragous behavior. Lesson learned I have come to not only like the person I had attacked, but more over I found out how much I RESPECT him. That little word right there can actually change a man. I had forgotten about giving it and surely did demand to get it. All in a lifetime for sure. A celebration with you and yours, absolution Mzrebecca, absolution.

Thanks again and God bless you and yours,

Respectfully,

Quietlearner

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QL,

Not sure if you have read this, but it may be worth a look...

http://articles.merc...10806_DNL_art_1

Fire and Rain,

Love that handle to start with. I want to thank you for the link. When I get my strength back I am going to begin a wreckoning of unimaginable magnitude to the folks in this link. I read an article last month involving a dairy farmer and the Foundation of Dead Animals. They actually arrested him for selling raw milk and have charged him with criminal negligence, this from the people that continue to posion our drinking water with floride after the many reports that have been delivered, outlining the unconjurable threat to human life and health it brings. I have found that these folks have finally lost their minds and I personally will see to it that they are all held accountable for the crimes they have each committed againt the citizens of this Country. There will be no place where they can hide, I will find them. There will be no immunity, I will see them prosecuted. The wreckoning is coming, hear my resolve, this group of offenders will be brought before the world to answer for their crimes. This I promise you.

I am currently involved in a natural and traditional approach to a cure, I am also working on cellular memory erasure, not the phone silly, my cellsbiggrin.gif , sorry but I need to lighten up a bit.

Please accept my thanks to you for your post.

Respectully,

Quietlearner

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OK, looking back you news hounds will remember a quoute by Maliki in regards to government employee pay? "Your pay rates will be increased, within 72 hours of the Currency Adjustments." Remember this satement?

Allrightly then, yesterday what did PM Maliki say? "Government, your pay increases will be no later than the 15th of Sept." Can you see the window folks?

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1U7Rx4LwS

You are basing everything on this being a true translation. Immediately after the statement on pay an article stated it would take 45 days to implement and I think this is where the mid Sept date comes from, not related to the RV.

sandyf,

Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you. First let me thank you for your post. I realize that it would appear that what you state is correct. I have read the piece I posted several times and I am unclear as to how to edit it to include the three elements that I believe needed to be done in order to strengthen the window of opprotunity for an RV. I spent the last several day trying to get a different or somehow more clear translation. Fortunately I have an Iraq friend that owns a gas station very near where I am living, I actually did not know he was Iraqi until last night when I was getting fuel and actually heard him say Shab's name. That lead to asking about these translations, and then a get together at my place, barbeque, beers and finally the computer. Lucky, left about two hours ago, he had never played quarter before, my oldest introduced him to binge drinking, What a proud father I am this morning. huh.gif I will take great pleasure in waking him this morning though, I will be preparing possibly the greasyest eggs one has ever seen for breakfast at 6:00am as he will need a good breakfast before he begins digging out our old septic system and vacating it as we have join the ranks of the local mucky muck and connected to sewer. biggrin.gif Parenting does on occasion have its benefical moments. deepending on how the eggs go, I may serve some really thick half warm hot cocoa as well. One must stay hydrated you knowohmy.gif .

Anyway enough of that, I did get what I believe to be a solid translation and contrary to the belief that it may mean forty five days, it has be determined by Lucky the champion of quarters, that the translation does state 72 hours.

Let me thank you for your objective thinking, this has caused me to reach out and low and behold if we did not gain and Iraqi national gone all the way American loving, nike wearing , gotta have levi 501's, really nice guy, imigrant. He is not only excited about the Dinar but assured me that our investment was the best thing I have ever done. He disclosed to me that he had many, many million and plans to bring his entire linage over when it RV this month? Lest remebering that this talked occured half way through the first of 3ea 18 packs of coorlights finest in a bottle no less. I will follow up after our new founds friend recovers from his DT/s, which after drink with my oldest, is a sure bet. Ill let you know what I can as soon as possible. In the meantime I need to head to the kitchen and ready myself to wake my little bundle of joy for his days workangry.gif ! Always so kind and loving in the morning too........laugh.giflaugh.gif

With my utmost respect,

Quietlearner

"no Lucky it really easy, just rolls off your nose and right in the cup"

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Good Morning Drox,

Likewise, I am pleased to see you too. I had hoped to hear from you again. Thanks for your wonderful words of wisdom and that insufferable, incredible, mind twisting, emotional, horribly wonderful, booK!!!! It sits next to the BEAT OF A DIFFERERENT DRUM and at any giving moment it may be found across the library on the floor next to HEALING THE CHILD WITHIN. I cant tell you how wonderful that book has been for me.

I have not been able to participate with my younger, as I have had to agree to a near lethal doses of Chemo to check this stuff again, It is however, hand in hand with some very serious natural curative attempts. I figure Im 4 and 1/2 years past the oppositions (modern medicines) D day prediction so I am taking each day at face value, along with a healty dose of appreciation for the simplest of things around us each and everyday. The sun feels better than I can remember. I have been out on what my kids have renamed the log, (my favorite old long board) every morning for the past two weeks. I hit the water around 4:30 am. For me its much more than the surfing but more now, the joining of the elements of life, you know? As I sit on my board and the incredible for power of the ocean run around my legs, I feel the energy pushing through the bottoms of my feet, it call me to emerse myself in the awsome healing it offers. No longer is this body of water a simple sports areana but rather a place of spiritual and physical healing that is so profound I have not words to describe it. I go from the reassuring hug of the mighty pacific safety up onto my board as the sun washes the rays of the life of all things over my face and down through my body lighting fires of healing and understanding that brings me to my knees. Holding my arm in the air, crisp and clean, carrying the scents of the might pacific mixed with the scents of the morning anew I cry, tears of understanding and hope, a tribute, a personal tribute, falls from my blackend eyes back to where so many have paid the same , this place where I feel most safe and well. I then speak to my creator, I humble myself and ask for more, always more, Yesterday I realized for me it was time to give thanks for what is here now, and yesteday and those days that have allowed the many times of joy in my life. Those times, so simple, yet more complex than we can understand, things like a star lit night, the birth of your child, a star lit night, a friendship filled with sharing and love unconditional, and a star lit night. The great energy of what we have named Sun then begins it work. The two greats then joining the third, our great mother, merge their perfect harmony and I only need listen to hear the beautiful music that occurs from the union on what we call the shoreline, Life happens and these things are truly magnificent. Im healing Drox, with each moment I am gifted with a new way to view what has become to many a thoughtless routine. Have you ever stopped and really watched a humming bird, a sunset and rise, your childs changes from one day to the next. So perfect, so sweet this life is. I am finally realizing how rich I am. Not a dollar left in the bank, A truck load of dinar, and the richest man I know. My family and friends are my assest's, the only assest's that truly matter, my dividends are now paid with each sweet breath I take in...... I am alive Drox, I am dying Drox and I love that damm book!

Im going to hold you to that get together. Furture, I will invite you to the youngest college graduation, and will expect to be at yours. Those should be some of the best reasons I can come up with to continue to read that rotten wonderful book!

God Bless my friend,

Quietlearner

"learning to die so I can live"

Hello my friend! So glad to hear your beautiful words. You certainly may have acquired cancer but you are no longer suffering from the greatest human condition that we all suffer from... unconsciousness. To be at the mercy of the other voice always chatting in our heads called the ego. That voice that thrives on both positivity and negativity but absolutely consumed with thinking and thoughts. You have found the gift of presence. There is no greater wealth than that. You are living in the foreground and taking in all that beauty for what it is and doing it without judgment. You are a very lucky man. Let those electromagnetic waves fill you and heal you from both the sun and the ocean as you said. It stimulates the blood and gets those white blood cells bumping around in there. I hope to meet you too, especially if you have an extra longboard "log" nearby. Although, I think I will stop watching Shark week if I decide to get on one of those things.

Ask this question but do not try to answer it okay? Just let it go to the universe. What would it take to be vibrationally compatible with health, wealth, love and happiness? Feel free to insert your own version but you get the picture. Be well!!!

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OK, looking back you news hounds will remember a quoute by Maliki in regards to government employee pay? "Your pay rates will be increased, within 72 hours of the Currency Adjustments." Remember this satement?

Allrightly then, yesterday what did PM Maliki say? "Government, your pay increases will be no later than the 15th of Sept." Can you see the window folks?

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1U7Rx4LwS

You are basing everything on this being a true translation. Immediately after the statement on pay an article stated it would take 45 days to implement and I think this is where the mid Sept date comes from, not related to the RV.

<BR>OK, looking back you news hounds will remember a quoute by Maliki in regards to government employee pay? "<FONT color=#ff0000>Your pay rates will be increased, within 72 hours of the Currency Adjustments</FONT>." Remember this satement?<BR><BR>Allrightly then, yesterday what did PM Maliki say? "Government, your pay increases will be no later than the 15th of Sept." Can you see the window folks? <BR><BR><BR>Read more: <A class=bbc_url title="External link" href="http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/78283-why-an-rv-will-be-done-by-sept-15/#ixzz1U7Rx4LwS" rel="nofollow external">http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1U7Rx4LwS</A><BR><BR>You are basing everything on this being a true translation. Immediately after the statement on pay an article stated it would take 45 days to implement and I think this is where the mid Sept date comes from, not related to the RV.<BR>
<BR><BR><BR>sandyf, <BR>Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you.  First let me thank you for your post.  I realize that it would appear that what you state is correct. I have read the piece I posted several times and I am unclear as to how to edit it to include the three elements that I believe needed to be done in order to strengthen the window of opprotunity for an RV.  I spent the last several days trying to get a different or somehow more clear translation.  Fortunately I have an Iraq friend that owns a gas station very near where I am living,  I actually did not know he was Iraqi until last night when I was getting fuel and actually heard him say Shab's name.  That lead to asking about these translations, and then a get together at my place, barbeque, beers and finally the computer.  Lucky, left about two hours ago,  he had never played quarter before, my oldest introduced him to binge drinking, What a proud father I am this morning.  <IMG src="http://dinarvets.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif">  ; I will take great pleasure in waking him this morning though, I will be preparing possibly the greasiest eggs one has ever seen for breakfast at 6:00am as he will need a good breakfast before he begins digging out our old septic system and vacating it as we have join the ranks of the local mucky muck and connected to sewer.  <IMG src="http://dinarvets.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif">  ; Parenting does on occasion have its benefical moments. deepending on how the eggs go, I may serve some really thick half warm hot cocoa as well.  One must stay hydrated you know<IMG src="http://dinarvets.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif"> .  <BR><BR>Anyway enough of that, I did get what I believe to be a solid translation and contrary to the belief that it may mean forty five days, it has been determined by Lucky the champion of quarters, that the translation does state 72 hours.  <BR><BR>Let me thank you for your objective thinking,  this has caused me to reach out and low and behold if we did not gain and Iraqi national gone all the way American loving, nike wearing , gotta have levi 501's, really nice guy, imigrant.  He is not only excited about the Dinar but assured me that our investment was the best thing I have ever done.  He disclosed to me that he had many, many million and plans to bring his entire linage over when it RV's this month? and reminding me and I qoute " America is the greastest place on earth, we just need more peace between us diferent colored Americans, and we will be unstopable"  Lest remebering that this talk occured half way through the first of 3ea 18 packs of coorlights finest, in a bottle no less. I will follow up after our new found friend recovers from his DT/s, which after drinking with my oldest, is a sure bet.   Ill let you know what I can as soon as possible.  In the meantime I  need to head to the kitchen and ready myself to wake my little bundle of joy for his days work<IMG src="http://dinarvets.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/angry.gif"> ! Always so kind and loving in the morning too........<IMG src="http://dinarvets.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif"> <IMG src="http://dinarvets.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif"> <BR><BR>With my utmost respect,<BR>Quietlearner<BR>"no Lucky its really easy, just rolls off your nose and right in the cup"
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Quietlerner,

There was a post that was started on August 16th that went along (somewhat) with what your post is referring to. I had replied to that post in hopes that you would have responded by now, which you have not. Here is the post >>>

Although I think you got ahead of yourself on the conclusion/outcome of that specific article, I am still thinking your timeline is at the least, more plausible than many others. That is if your statement of this is accurate..... "OK, looking back you news hounds will remember a quoute by Maliki in regards to government employee pay? "Your pay rates will be increased, within 72 hours of the Currency Adjustments." Remember this statement?

Once again, the article you were referencing was mentioning pay rates increased, within 72 hours of the currency adjustments. This says to me that their pay will be increased post post rv.

Then you you have your other statement from this article >> Allrightly then, yesterday what did PM Maliki say? "Government, your pay increases will be no later than the 15th of Sept." Can you see the window folks?

So if the article is correct, we should see the rv by September 15th & then Government pay increased within 72 hours.

Have you been able to locate the referenced article? I would love to see this.

Thanks

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While it would be obviously wonderful if Quietlearner was right and it'd RV by Sept. 15.... I hope everybody stays grounded and doesn't get delusional in order to avoid further disappointments....

Maybe it will occur by that date and maybe it won't... The sad brutal real truth of the matter once again is that nobody knows....Good Luck to us.

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I see you joined DV in March of 2011. I've been here for almost two years and have seen this kind of post so many times I can't count them. The RV won't happen until:

December 2009

March 2010

June 2010

October 2010

and then, who could forget, SURELY by the end of 2010.....according to the CBI

and none of them happened.

There have been at least one or two dates each month this year that the RV wouldn't happen until.....they have all passed.

The bottom line is that no one except the CBI knows for sure....and they ain't talking.

IMO, when it happens it will happen without fanfare, in the dark of night, and very quietly. And not until.

I 100% agree with you. My belief is that it will happen to little fan fare. We are all waiting/expecting Fox News to cover this, etc. Not gonna happen. This thing will be big for the Iraqi people, but little will be said/reported on when it happens. IMO>

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sandyf,

Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you. First let me thank you for your post. I realize that it would appear that what you state is correct. I have read the piece I posted several times and I am unclear as to how to edit it to include the three elements that I believe needed to be done in order to strengthen the window of opprotunity for an RV. I spent the last several day trying to get a different or somehow more clear translation. Fortunately I have an Iraq friend that owns a gas station very near where I am living, I actually did not know he was Iraqi until last night when I was getting fuel and actually heard him say Shab's name. That lead to asking about these translations, and then a get together at my place, barbeque, beers and finally the computer. Lucky, left about two hours ago, he had never played quarter before, my oldest introduced him to binge drinking, What a proud father I am this morning. huh.gif I will take great pleasure in waking him this morning though, I will be preparing possibly the greasyest eggs one has ever seen for breakfast at 6:00am as he will need a good breakfast before he begins digging out our old septic system and vacating it as we have join the ranks of the local mucky muck and connected to sewer. biggrin.gif Parenting does on occasion have its benefical moments. deepending on how the eggs go, I may serve some really thick half warm hot cocoa as well. One must stay hydrated you knowohmy.gif .

Anyway enough of that, I did get what I believe to be a solid translation and contrary to the belief that it may mean forty five days, it has be determined by Lucky the champion of quarters, that the translation does state 72 hours.

Let me thank you for your objective thinking, this has caused me to reach out and low and behold if we did not gain and Iraqi national gone all the way American loving, nike wearing , gotta have levi 501's, really nice guy, imigrant. He is not only excited about the Dinar but assured me that our investment was the best thing I have ever done. He disclosed to me that he had many, many million and plans to bring his entire linage over when it RV this month? Lest remebering that this talked occured half way through the first of 3ea 18 packs of coorlights finest in a bottle no less. I will follow up after our new founds friend recovers from his DT/s, which after drink with my oldest, is a sure bet. Ill let you know what I can as soon as possible. In the meantime I need to head to the kitchen and ready myself to wake my little bundle of joy for his days workangry.gif ! Always so kind and loving in the morning too........laugh.giflaugh.gif

With my utmost respect,

Quietlearner

"no Lucky it really easy, just rolls off your nose and right in the cup"

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Your post has me ROFL. Love it! Yes....parenting does have it's 'benefits' on occasion! :lol::lol::lol::eyebrows:

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I guess being brand new to the Dinar speculation keeps me on the edge. Yes, I've been reading everything I can, when I can. Some of it I understand. That of which I don't, I do my own research. Being on the edge has been titillating. I feel for those who have been waiting for 7 years. Like anything else, I guess it gets old after a while. Hardly fair for a newbie like me to experience an RV after only a couple months ... wouldn't that be nice. On the other hand, I'm prepared to hold on as long as necessary. Fortunately I'm not in the group that must see an RV soon to make ends meet. It's especially nice to know that even a modest RV will pose a generous return. This keeps me smiling everyday. I've read all about the RV days gone by, and likewise, the predictions down the road. I truly believe that for every 'no' (No RV day), we are closer to a 'yes' (RV day). I immensly enjoy the thought of being on the receiving end. A shot for the American lower middle class to pull themselves from years of working in the trenches, to a life that many of us could have only dreamed of, conservatively speaking of course. You have to be in it to win it. Although I would like to be 'in it' deeper than what I am, I am in it as much as I can safely be. I recently listened to a streaming radio spot about the Dinar and its RV. They began the show by saying "you won't hear us talk about a date for the revaluation." By the end I was amused because before it was all over, one of the so-called 'educated guests' clearly said that they were expecting an RV "before" the last quarter of this year. And although they didn't mention an exact date, we were left to believe that an RV would occurr before September 01st....lol. This, coupled with your date of September 15, is a good proximity. I'm a believer of 'everything in moderation'. But I have a good feeling that this holiday season will be one of our best ever........don't you? :D

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Who are these nagative people that keep stating there will never be an RV until the global settlements are done? What are they taking about? Also these people are stating that the US banks, and treasury said they would not be cashing in dinars, and if it was to take place we would hav eto get a bank from Britian to do it, or go to Iraq. What?

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