coolbeans Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Looks like the FBI and IRS did a raid on the very place where the "Dinar Guru Summit" was held last weekend! FBI agents raid downtown Toledo business TOLEDO, Ohio (WTVG) -- FBI agents raided a business in downtown near Fifth Third Field. The business isin the upper level of a building that borders Fifth Third Field above Frickers. Again, the place was upstairs from the restaurant, and not connected to the business. Around 12:30, we spotted FBI agents' vehicles. According to a source, they were inside the second-floor office of Commercial Energy Products. We're also told the raid may have been issued by the IRS. So far, we have nothing confirmed. As of 5:00pm Wednesday, we're still waiting to hear from the FBI. We'll bring you details as they become available. http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news%2Flocal&id=8274761 And here it says the B H G roup is in that building! IRS raids downtown Toledo business BLADE STAFF The IRS raided a downtown Toledo business Wednesday morning. Craig Casserly, spokesman for the IRS criminal investigation unit, could not comment on what businesses was raided in the 19 N. St. Clair St. building because legal documents were sealed in federal court. He expected the documents would be sealed for “quite awhile.” He said agents were there on “official business” and that he believed the IRS was the only agency at the building. A woman who works at Fricker’s Restaurant, which is in the same building where the raid took place, said the IRS came in about 10:30 a.m. but did not know which business was raided. The building is home to several businesses, including Fricker’s; Milewski, Smith, and Tschantz; Commercial Energy Products; The B. H. G roup, and Fracture Design. The door to the offices was locked Wednesday evening and a special code is needed to access the elevator. There is a buzzer next to the elevator to call the different agencies, but no one answered. The Lucas County Auditor’s Web site lists three different owners, including Right Field LLC, Lucas County Commissioners, and John M. Wilson and Arlene Singer. http://m2.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2011/07/27/IRS-raids-downtown-Toledo-business-2.html Edited July 27, 2011 by coolbeans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAME1 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 What the frick :lol: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyVegas Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Shut the front door!!!!!! Ruh Roh! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primalnick Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Not defending anyone, but the articles are vague and do not specifiy BHGroup. It could just as easily been the energy products company over selling shares in energy projects. Let's not get something started without more detail. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncs Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Ok so who is the BHG group? Sorry I don't have time to sit around and fight out the gurus and their affiliations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarThug Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Thx for the post coolbeans Let us know if u hear any follow up. I don't want to jump to any conclusions since the Article doesn't specify which Business it is. If it turns out not to be another site then perhaps Chuckster3 can make them Guilty by Association ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpsmit Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Ok so who is the BHG group? Sorry I don't have time to sit around and fight out the gurus and their affiliations. Broken Hearted Group (BHG)? found it on google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas1 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Maybe they got the other Frickers in the bldg.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longboarder81 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Broken Hearted Group (BHG)? found it on google A bunch of scammers, you don't want to know them. Edited July 28, 2011 by Adam Montana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
design interrupted Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Okay, I should probably do my research before posting but, off the top of my head, I thought the B H G roup was in Florida. Isn't that who Rudy is affiliated with? Thus, Dinar Thug's reference to chuck3ster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horns Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbeans Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Ok so who is the BHG group? Sorry I don't have time to sit around and fight out the gurus and their affiliations. They are the group that hosted the Dinar Guru Summit last weekend. The Dinar Guru Summit was attended by Din@r D@ddy, Frank of KTF, Scooter, Brietling, Rudy C and many others. That Frank of KTF said the meeting was secret and they were going to make an announcment today the 27th about what the summit was about. My guess is if there is no announcment by Frank of KTF this may have been these guys who were raided. Frank of KTF lives in Toledo and is part of that group or so he has told others. Nope we do not know it was these guys who were raided but we do know that there was a rumor going around last week that the FBI had them under investigation and there was one person on this forum in one thread who said that he himself had reported them to the FBI for fraud. So who knows? But what are the odds that the very location of a group that was rumored to be under FBI investigation and also reported to have been turned in by someone to the FBI was raided and it was NOT them? Edited July 28, 2011 by coolbeans 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas1 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 If the Dinar Guru Summit was held in that bldg, pumper sales must really be down. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietlearner Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Okay, I should probably do my research before posting but, off the top of my head, I thought the B H G roup was in Florida. Isn't that who Rudy is affiliated with? Thus, Dinar Thug's reference to chuck3ster. Yes the BH is for Brad Hubner, Rudy is from florida. Brad and Rudy are instrumental in putting together two Hedge funds involving Iraq futures. Quietlearner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamiflyer Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Stay grounded folks. If this were to be "Toilet paper," like some like to call it, then this effort would be in vain and at tax payers' cost. There is cause and effect here! If this turns out to be just a little bit like the article says, then we should be very close to monetary gain. AIMMHO, according to unfolding events. GLTA and Go RV. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye fan Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Although the article or the broadcast did not say who they raided, it is near The another site location for sure. I can't think of who else it would be either. The another site are good guys and gals. Uncle Sam shutting down the dealers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulTxn Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Not defending anyone, but the articles are vague and do not specifiy BHGroup. It could just as easily been the energy products company over selling shares in energy projects. Let's not get something started without more detail. It's funny that you picked that one as an alternative because the guy that started the B* Group is partnered in that company, according to another site's 'About Us' page on their website. Edited July 28, 2011 by HopefulTxn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
design interrupted Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yes the BH is for Brad Hubner, Rudy is from florida. Brad and Rudy are instrumental in putting together two Hedge funds involving Iraq futures. Quietlearner Thank you, Quiet Learner. I knew there was a connection there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Dude Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Okay, I should probably do my research before posting but, off the top of my head, I thought the B H G roup was in Florida. Isn't that who Rudy is affiliated with? Thus, Dinar Thug's reference to chuck3ster. NOPE, look on there website the above picture in the article is clearly posted on their website just at a different angle but easily identified: http://thebhgroup.org/about-us.html and their address is posted on their website: 17 N. St. Clair Sreet Second Floor Toledo, OH 43604 http://thebhgroup.org/contact-us.html So...all you breitling fans need to switch over to someone very reasonable, knowledgible, full of wisdom and honest PHOENIX 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Hey DT and wpsmit ?????? Weren't they at the infamous dinar summitt a couple of weeks ago ??? Didn't a couple of other guys like R from DD and I'm pretty sure Scooter also??? Let me know if I'm wrong about this Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishMan1969 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 "Birds of a feather flock together" Should this surprise us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Dude Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Not defending anyone, but the articles are vague and do not specifiy BHGroup. It could just as easily been the energy products company over selling shares in energy projects. Let's not get something started without more detail. no it has nothing to do with shares because if it was you would hear about the SEC in the news article, not the IRS duh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
design interrupted Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 NOPE, look on there website the above picture in the article is clearly posted on their website just at a different angle but easily identified: http://thebhgroup.org/about-us.html and their address is posted on their website: 17 N. St. Clair Sreet Second Floor Toledo, OH 43604 http://thebhgroup.org/contact-us.html So...all you breitling fans need to switch over to someone very reasonable, knowledgible, full of wisdom and honest PHOENIX Thank you, Aqua Dude, for the clarification. Quiet Learner corrected me that Brad is with the B H Group in Toledo and Rudy C. is in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankenSLI Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Perhaps they are getting the know on all who purchased dinar through the another site so they can make sure everyone pays their taxes after an RV,,, OK I'm reaching her I know... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua Dude Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 the RV is near guys....place your bets if yer not broke already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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