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Great post. Thanks 11 Bravo. While people may get upset Sotheby's it's REALITY. And, this RV is a dream.

Everybody slammed another site last December when he said nothing until possibly June or July of 2011.

Atleast we can not think about this for awhile.

God bless you all

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Do us all a Favor and and jap slap yourself.........dry.gif

*smack* ouch it hurt! ;)

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http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/73319-chapter-7-lifted/page__fromsearch__1

it states that iraq is free from sanctions after 2 decades, i followed up and found out that they are still in wmd sanctions, but all financial and economic sanctions have been lifted

Really.

Your proof is a post off this site.

Come on.

I would expect a lot better from you.

I am looking for real proof.

If we want to go that route, I can prove that the RV has already occured. I can even site multiple sources.

How about documentation from a Known Organization. I will even take a news article from a reputable source.

If you follow up a bit more you will find that sanctions are still in effect.

Let me help a bit.

Try CNN, I am sure that this news would be of intrest to the world. CNN might cover it

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Really.

Your proof is a post off this site.

Come on.

I would expect a lot better from you.

I am looking for real proof.

If we want to go that route, I can prove that the RV has already occured. I can even site multiple sources.

How about documentation from a Known Organization. I will even take a news article from a reputable source.

your proof is someone telling you? now thats believable!! this is from an iraqi news agency. let me see, some guy saying it....... or a news agency........some guy...........news agency. thats what i thought. plus they couldnt get there dfi back under the current financial sanctions, for someone so knowledgeable as you should know that. hey im just trying to help you! plus you should click the link its an actual article. your welcome

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Okay I am newer than most and have read alot of info from this site and others including iraq papers I have learnt that you cannot believe everything you read or hear but I tend to believe more I read from news sources than someone telling me they have been told or their intel has told them I mean no disrespect to anyone but give me proof of what you say you know as fact if no proof then to me it is only an opinion and everyone seems to have one.Telling me you know something for fact with no proof ie a link to a reliable news source makes you no different than the guru's everyone bashes at least when i listen to sonny scooter or phoenix they give you links of articles that you can read from cnn, un, and other sites,which i know can be posted to appear as true and are not after all we are dealing with political things and I myself have never met an honest politician, so what if people believe it will happen this year or next I myself will keep on believing and hoping and dreaming that it will be this week or at least by month end unless someone gives me absolute proof that they know it will not.Again no disrespect to anyone.

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Well stick with Okie and you will be happy.

My news is not negative, just based in reality.

I do have a more consevative and realistic view of this investment than most.

Did not mean to bring you down.

Enjoy your little bubble, and Santa is coming soon

Kudos to all of you! It is refreshing to experience an intelligent discussion, conflicting intel that did not fly out of someone's derriere, and the differences are being handled with respect and maturity! This is what Adam would have wished for too, I'm guessing. My gawd, no whiners, dinarpimps, bashers, flailing newbies or Okiesmoke. How kewl is that!?

Go RV, tomorrow, next year, whenever, just GO RV!!

Thanks amigos, and especially for those of you out there in the sandbox.

Peace Out

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your proof is someone telling you? now thats believable!! this is from an iraqi news agency. let me see, some guy saying it....... or a news agency........some guy...........news agency. thats what i thought. plus they couldnt get there dfi back under the current financial sanctions, for someone so knowledgeable as you should know that. hey im just trying to help you! plus you should click the link its an actual article. your welcome

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There is your posted article.

Please point me in the right direction.

Which article will show me that all finacial sanctions are lifted.

And please dont be mistaken.

I never said anyone told me that these sanctions are not lifted.

I tend to do much research and have never found ANYTHING saying that all finacial sanctions are lifted.

I apreciate this education, so please do not get defensive.

Let me say this, If all financial sanctions had been lifted. That would open the door for other investments to move forward.

Again take this a debate not personal attack.

And are you saying that the release of the DFI fund is proof of the removal of sanctions.

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Would be HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY if wrong.

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biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif Well then, if it does happen earlier than you expect, and we do get to cross paths.. the first one will be on me... gotta help ya get over all that disappointment! tongue.gif GO RV Already!!! cool.gif

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What I think:

I am still holding to my timeline of an RV after Jan 2012 at the earliest.

The country will not survive that long. By Jan of 2012 things will be worse. If there is no RV by Aug/Sept you can pretty well kiss the currency goodbye because it will become worth even less than it is now.

Would also assume they RV before they become part of WTO or that is going to cause some serious confusion after the fact.

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nothing personal, but nothing you mentioned in you last post has anything to do with there finances. they are economicly free to move forward, im not debating that they arent safe. people die here to do to violence , it doesnt mean we dont move forward economicly though

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nothing personal, but nothing you mentioned in you last post has anything to do with there finances. they are economicly free to move forward, im not debating that they arent safe. people die here to do to violence , it doesnt mean we dont move forward economicly though

Please stay with me Sonny.

I will say again that I have always respected your opinion, we just seem to have differing views.

Where in that posted article does it say all financial sanctions are lifted.

And I did check the link.

Also are you stating that the DFI fund could not be released with any financial sanctions in place.

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Please stay with me Sonny.

I will say again that I have always respected your opinion, we just seem to have differing views.

Where in that posted article does it say all financial sanctions are lifted.

And I did check the link.

Also are you stating that the DFI fund could not be released with any financial sanctions in place.

This arrangement has come to an end,” said Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who has orchestrated Iraq’s gradual fiscal liberation “to give Iraq its full freedom to manage its resources.”

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1RjY8dmye

Iraq is now in charge of its own finances. Its central bank has taken control of the DFI, which consists of an estimated $50 billion held at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and an Iraqi Committee of Financial Experts (COFE) will play the oversight and auditing role previously performed by IAMB.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1RjZCeTbK

As part of the deal removing the U.N. sanctions, Iraq has agreed to continue setting aside 5 percent of its oil revenues, most of which goes to Kuwaiti reparations. Although Iraqi officials have complained this percentage is too high, they can’t dismiss it altogether: if Iraq reneges on those installments, Kuwait could turn to the courts for an immediate payout.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1RjYy3fpW

this should do huh?

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This arrangement has come to an end,” said Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who has orchestrated Iraq’s gradual fiscal liberation “to give Iraq its full freedom to manage its resources.”

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1RjY8dmye

Iraq is now in charge of its own finances. Its central bank has taken control of the DFI, which consists of an estimated $50 billion held at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and an Iraqi Committee of Financial Experts (COFE) will play the oversight and auditing role previously performed by IAMB.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1RjZCeTbK

As part of the deal removing the U.N. sanctions, Iraq has agreed to continue setting aside 5 percent of its oil revenues, most of which goes to Kuwaiti reparations. Although Iraqi officials have complained this percentage is too high, they can’t dismiss it altogether: if Iraq reneges on those installments, Kuwait could turn to the courts for an immediate payout.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1RjYy3fpW

this should do huh?

wow, good job sonny, that was amazing work. you are right to the point, and i know you have been wrong in the past (i wish you werent) but you are the only one on the internet to ever be right.. thank you.

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This arrangement has come to an end,” said Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who has orchestrated Iraq’s gradual fiscal liberation “to give Iraq its full freedom to manage its resources.”

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1RjY8dmye

Iraq is now in charge of its own finances. Its central bank has taken control of the DFI, which consists of an estimated $50 billion held at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and an Iraqi Committee of Financial Experts (COFE) will play the oversight and auditing role previously performed by IAMB.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1RjZCeTbK

As part of the deal removing the U.N. sanctions, Iraq has agreed to continue setting aside 5 percent of its oil revenues, most of which goes to Kuwaiti reparations. Although Iraqi officials have complained this percentage is too high, they can’t dismiss it altogether: if Iraq reneges on those installments, Kuwait could turn to the courts for an immediate payout.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz1RjYy3fpW

this should do huh?

Well thanks anyway.

Now you give me three identicle posts from three DV members all with links to Iraq Oil Report.

Now I have searched the site you provided and can not find article about financial sanctions being lifted.

What search topic should I use.

Where can I find WTO sanctions lifted, or financial sanctions lifted, sanctions lifted.

Again if this was true it should be easy to find.

FOX News CNN etc.

Maybe if you post the same post a fouth time I will be able to find it.

I recomend that anybody following this string do the same.

Read the post that Sonny has given me.

Just one, they are all the same.

Them go to the link HE provided and search for articles that support his statement.

Then double check with another reputable source.

Post findings.

Sorry Sonny but I

just got called into work.

I would love to continue later.

Check back in a couple hours.

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i gave you links to the article. i do like and will always read your work, but the negative act is getting stale...... be safe.

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i gave you links to the article. i do like and will always read your work, but the negative act is getting stale...... be safe.

I have read the article quoted "Iraq oil money retains US protection'

In that article it does state that financial sanctions have been lifted.

Just because it states that in an article does not make it true.

What proof backs that statement.

That should make this clearer.

Be back in about 1-2 hours

Not a negative act.

Everyone here thinks I dont want a RV.

That is Fn Crazy

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(CNN) -- Iraq took control Friday of billions of dollars in oil revenues set aside by the United Nations following the 2003 U.S.-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein, money intended to be used build up the country's economy.

The U.N. Security Council hand over of the Development Fund for Iraq is considered a milestone for Iraqi autonomy, which comes as the United States prepares to withdraw its roughly 47,000 troops from the country by the end of the year.

"The members of the Security Council welcomed the Government of Iraq's establishment of a successor arrangement for the transition of the Development Fund for Iraq," the United Nations said in a statement released Thursday.

The fund will be turned over to an Iraqi committee of financial experts that will operate under terms approved by Iraq's Council of Ministers, it said.

In the statement, the Security Council reiterated the commitment by Iraq to "ensure that oil revenue is used in the interests of the Iraqi people, and to ensure that transition arrangements remain consistent with the constitution and with international best practices in respect of transparency, accountability and integrity."

A 2003 Security Council resolution that created the development fund requires 5% of Iraq's oil revenue be used to pay reparations, primarily Kuwaiti claims that arose from the 1991 Gulf War.

In December, the Security Council lifted all but a few sanctions put in place prior to the invasion. Among the issues to still be resolved: war reparations to Kuwait, the demarcation of the Iraqi-Kuwait border and efforts to locate missing Kuwaitis and third-party nationals

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/07/01/iraq.oil.revenue/index.html?iref=allsearch

does this help?

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11 Bravo-well said and thank you for your service to our great country. I appreciate what you and others have done and do that allow us to do what we do!

P.S. I know this will be hard to belive, but I am beginning to doubt Okie....... tongue.giftongue.giftongue.giftongue.giftongue.gif

You mean you actually had faith in what Okie was saying?? LOL The same okie that said last year that the RV had happened in Dubai and was just waiting for it to reach us? LOL

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I find it interesting (read: amusing) that people who hear it in the news or from their own source see a thing as "FACT" or "REALITY". It has been seen over and over how the news media can slant a story for whatever reason and people as close as a married couple who have been together for DECADES can lie to one another for their own reasons. There are times when "stating the facts" is counter-productive and just plain irrelevant.

just sayin'.....

So what would you suggest the alternative could be?

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Maybe you should open up a psychic line with your 4 for 4 streak. No rv this week huh? What? You want a cookie? That is some amazing stuff. Maybe you and another site should get together. You have a lot in common.

My question for you is why after jan of 2012? What superb reality based intel can you pull out of the cystal ball in your belly button to prove your theory. Because if you have no articles to back it up then yes, you are just like okie, only his opposite.

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Quote

Again take this a debate not personal attack.

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Bravo, my Friend.... JMVHO....But....I think you don't really need to keep repeating that it's not a personal attack but just a debate......I'm sure it's very clear to everybody... If somebody really wants to take all this that you're writing as an attack, it's their problem ....

Thanks for your posts.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/15/end-iraq-sanctions-reflects-progress-saddam-era-analysts-say/

End of Iraq Sanctions Reflects Progress Since Saddam Era, Analysts Say

By Stephen Clark

Published December 15, 2010

| FoxNews.com

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/15/end-iraq-sanctions-reflects-progress-saddam-era-analysts-say/#ixzz1Rk12fjAJ

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