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A sad dinar experience, not for everyone

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While I respect your experience. This information will only get to a handful of people that truly need to see it and even then it will only truly have a positive effect on a couple of them. Greed is a powerful weapon. I feel bad for people that are so stricken by debt or out of work that every dime they have is pouring into this on the chance that it will RV big and they can save themselves and their family members.

Not meant to bash, I just see the reality in things. This world is greedy and will attempt to save 5 seconds if they can or attempt to make that extra $10,000 by running a red light. Silliness.

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Unfortunately a sad situation, but it is no different then those who drink and drive thinking they are the ones who can handle it, or the drug users who think they are not hurting anyone. Until someone close to the family is hurt by their actions it will not hit home with them. My prayers go out to those who are dealing with this young mans life, and to the gurus and pumpers who believe they have the right to tell their lies.

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Moved to opinions and perspectives. Thanks for the post Gibbs. Sad story, hope the young man will be ok.

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Thanks for the post Gibbs. Very sobering. Thanks for sharing your experience Legolas. Gives us perspective. Shalom.

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I do hope you do not get bashed for sharing your opinion. I would be so discouraged by the lack of empathy and ethics. This scenario is very tragic and I'm sure with over 4 million invested and climbing..many more variations of the same.

There are people who have not only rushed to buy more dinar on the trash marketing techniques, but existing dinar holders who have been diverted from their business and personal activities via the lies. I know a group of seniors who some lost a lower interest loan and a buyer of a home having believed the results of an intel confirmed date and rate. With over 3 million US citizens owning dinar, I'm sure there are many more tragic stories. IMO, This investment was and still is still solicited to specifically target the average person citizen and not the professional. That is evident just by reading the dealers, hubs and boards. IMO hand-slapping due diligence disclaimers after the Gotcha, simply isn't sufficient.

What message or examples are further required to make the lies stop...Countries are attempting to fight corruption, SEC is expanding on fighting corruption. Laws are made against it, Government officials loosing their jobs over lies, Educational Institutions teach against it and Religion speaks against falsehoods. If one doesn't practice ethics or religion, there are certainly laws to address perjuries and boundaries of deliberate outright lies. To those who imply through subtle wordplay, are equally guilty of those who are blatantly cruel, lacking in ethics and coldly self serving.

Wishwell11

Go RV for the good guys

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Solid post. Remember, pumpers and cheerleaders aren't the problem, only those that think this is a lottery ticket are responsible. Investment versus lottery...there's a big difference. Thousands of percent appreciation...I hope so, but don't buy it......200-500% increase...more reasonable.

Caveat emptor.......

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Moved to opinions and perspectives. Thanks for the post Gibbs. Sad story, hope the young man will be ok.

Thank you DaveH, I really wasn't sure where to put this

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Based on the story above. Any time we get information we should discern what to do with it. Now saying that nobody told him to speed. With that foul mouth of his makes you wonder about his attitude and did he put himself in that position? I pray that he heals physically as well as spiritually.

Peace

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Thank you Gibbs for sharing and yes, it is very sad indeed. I pray the young man will recover. I have always been so dead set against a rumors section. It's utter nonsense and only serves a negative purpose. It's useless and I wish the entire section would be removed....along with most of the so called guru's.

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It is what it is....... You cant fix stupid !! I hope both you and the boy are well..

Moral of the story is.... Stop buying dinar!!! Period.. Unless you like throwing your rent money down the tubes, and if you do buy, purchase from a bank and do not make the pumpers or site owners any extra money, and lets see how greedy and stupid these "rumors"="LIES" come to pass!!

Good Luck on your endeavor!! :D

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Honestly that is what I love about this site. Adam and the mods allow everyone to share their views and it has brought a semblance of balance. Years ago many of these sites had little balanced perspective other than pumper gurus. Now there seems to be a much more grounded approach from everyone at least on this site and I am glad. IMO... It is always better to make financial investment decisions after viewing it from all sides. As Legolas so aptly pointed out... people in the past had such a rush to purchase and then, consequently, such a hard emotional let down that we saw bad things happen. People chose Dinar over rent or mortgage payments. People sat on the sidelines waiting for the RV instead of finding work. Divorces came from the obsession. Chat was full of foreclosure talk yet people had $10k worth of Dinar sitting at home.

I have really high hopes for this investment but way different than what I consider the crazy numbers thrown out. Doesn't mean I am right but that my research has revealed an entirely different outcome. So, I try to help folks understand things from a different light and from more grounded perspective to aid in their research. Sometimes that means going toe to toe with a guru to expose something I know is painting a false picture. There are many on here that share that same philosophy. We are not negative at all but concerned for others that overly invest or think it is a can't miss investment. We are just rooted and have removed the guru goggles to see the truth. By exposing the truth or other perspective... you will have the ability to figure out the most logical outcome. Remember...Guru's are not motivated by monetary interests in 90% of the cases. They are motivated by the audience. The fact that you hang on their every word and hold them in such high regard. The motivation is that they can become someone/something very different than what exists in their normal life. That is the power of the ego and sometimes it has devastating results. That is why Blodgets and Madoffs exist in this world.

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Thank you Gibbs for sharing and yes, it is very sad indeed. I pray the young man will recover. I have always been so dead set against a rumors section. It's utter nonsense and only serves a negative purpose. It's useless and I wish the entire section would be removed....along with most of the so called guru's.

Hi wookie :)

Thank you. Many of us have tried to discourage people running

to the rumors section, but it is futile to do so. They are lies, always lies,

and the fruit of those lies I have spoken of often. But, just look and see

where the most traffic filters to on this site, and it will be rumors.

Those that warn about them, get the game of red marks, those that hang on

their every word often do not realize how they are the target of manipulation. Many

here are still running out and buying almost weekly, why? because we have yet

another "date" bouncing around and they want all they can get before the end

of the month. This will have to come to a stop at some point.

Is it truly that difficult to understand why there are constant rumors and lies being posted?

Is it truly that difficult to understand the reason for those lies? Look at the fruit, nothing good,

other than the dealers are laughing all the way to the bank, and do not think for one moment

that those same dealers who made a world of promises to you their customer, would not drop

you in a heart beat if it were to their advantage, or after they make that last million on a few who

got suckered in via rumors, lies and outright fabrication.

So we continue to say "rumors are for entertainment". This is a lie, and those that spread them,

also assist those that scam and pump, the after affects is self evident...entertainment huh? So far

for how many years, it has worked like a charm...and I suspect it will continue to do so out of sheer

greed and desperation. Once the liars KNOW the desperation, then it becomes a frenzy, and we are about

to embark on another frenzy coming up in about another week, it is Dec. 2010 all over again, and it will

have the same results.

But just think...all those sales once again, all those referrals, it must be shaping up to be quite a banner

year once again for all those involved. What a shame and although it is easy to shrug this off and blame

those who have no control, the bigger shame is that each day, the same folks behind the scene get away

with yet another round of drive by lying, and they know for certain they have a wiling audience, no matter

what site it is...rumors are the main traffic generator...generating traffic also increases dealer exposure,

the rest is evident.

I personally have never understood the need for them, if this speculation needs that kind of support, than I

suggest we all step back awhile and think why this would be. Facts of the situation DO NOT generate

enough sales, it does not get the frenzy effect that is desired. Yes, we are watching another Dec. 2010 event

right before our eyes...and I doubt the results will be any different...already one can read how "backed up"

the dealers are....why is this? it all works like clock work doesn't it?

It is very sad indeed, each must take responsibility for their actions, but I fear we need to begin to also

understand what is feeding this beast will only get worse, *if* we allow it to. It has become a circus. But that

circus has sure been great for business and will continue to be so at far too much expense, in more ways

then one.

Thank you Gibbs for sharing that account. I do not think it would be stretching the truth to say this goes on

almost daily, not the car wreck part, but the greed, the fruit of the lies that feed it, and the pain this has caused

many people who have spent just about all they had thinking they would be 'millionaires' over night. It is simply

turning into a very sad situation and a bitter game.

Thanks also to all the comments regarding this, and the voice of support. Legolas, appreciate your thoughts

always my friend. :D I do hope we wake up, but the longer it goes, the worse it is likely to get, and few really care

about anyone but themselves, sadly. This also is the result and fruit of greed.

Have a peaceful weekend everyone, take time to step away from the computer and enjoy your loved ones. No need to

allow this circus to consume you.

All my best! :)

Jim

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I hope for a speedy recovery for that young man, before they throw his ass in jail. That's what's going to happen and I hope he stays the hell away from our streets. What kind of excuse would "i read about bad Intel" be if the accident had killed somebody?

Don't trust the pumpers, take responsibly for your own actions.

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Gibbs,

Gave you a +. If this story makes one person stop and think about their actions, then it worked.

Remember people....this is an investment...there is a risk involved. This could end up with all of us losing our investment ( I sure hope not and firmly believe in the RV!) With that in mind, you should only invest what you can afford to lose...just like when you go to the casino....

I made my investment three years ago and have not purchased any since. I made the decision on how much I was willing to invest and left it at that...regardless of how much "Pumping" I hear.

That was my decision. If you want to continue to invest in this and can afford to....good for you.

Putting this investment in front of your family or obligations is reckless and just plain dumb.

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Gibbs427 --- I've been worried about you since the other night in chat! Now I know where you went to --- but are YOU ok????

I too am saddened to hear of your overheard conversation --- and while I hate that people are sometimes so gullible they swallow any and all rumors as if they were the truth --- I have to wonder if the young man you described doesn't drive the way he did on other occasions as well ... we've all experienced the other car that seems to be in far to big of a hurry for the conditions (traffic).

I humbly submit that imo most of the experiences we have in life are meant to teach us something --- often the lesson goes unheeded --- as often even if we seek for the lesson it remains somewhat elusive.

Perhaps there are a myriad of lessons we can glean from this experience. I do NOT believe you have to live the experience to learn from it ;)

Blessings and good health to you Gibbs427 --- and to the young man as well.

pvS

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Very Sad indeed, on two counts

that this person ended up in hospital, prayers go out to him and his family

second, that some misguided people would lay the responsibility of this accident

in the lap of the Guru's and pumpers. this is the same mentality that wants to ban guns(guns don't kill people,people

kill people) ACCOUNTABILITY is a word people want to forget.

who caused this person to wreck? ........he did, not the guru's

who is responsible for your actions?........................you are

WHAT"S THIS COUNTRY COMING TOOsad.gif

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It sounds legit, and I think it's safe to assume that thousands of people (if not more) have rushed to the bank, or to their keyboards to order more Dinars based solely on the so-called "intel" of the pumpers and liars. Cases like the one described by Gibbs are likely rare, but not difficult to believe. When I first boarded this ride several years ago, like many others, I spent way too much time in the chat rooms. I can tell you first hand of several members who were said to have died of heart attacks during that time, when the RV was also "imminent," as it has been hundreds of times since. Claiming that the deaths were caused by the stress of the RV circus might be a stretch, but many believed that they were. Many members left the sites as their homes were foreclosed upon, cars repossessed, jobs lost, etc. as they waited desperately for the RV which was to occur "at any moment." You can't help but wonder what ultimately happened to them. Undoubtedly many people purchased more than they could afford to lose and never expected conditions to deteriorate to that degree. Others bought only small amounts, hoping to make enough on the "imminent" RV to get them out of a hole. Needless to say, it was painful to watch. More than once many of us sent money thru PayPal to members in bad situations, hoping that in a matter of days or weeks things would improve. Obviously it hasn't happened, and it's been more than 3 years for me......much longer for others.

I haven't watched the carnage of the chat rooms for a long time now, but I'm certain that the drama continues. Make no mistake, the pumpers/liars have done a lot of damage over the years, and will undoubtedly continue to do so. Best advice......don't be a victim, and do what you can to protect others from mistakes you might have made yourselves.

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I totally agree with these comments! I, too, spent way tooooo much time in the chat room, watching, waiting, hoping. Haven't done

that in about a year and a half now....no time to reinforce those pumpers! Now, I check in for a minute or two just to see what's what,

and as usual, nothing of importance. Its time for all to go back to living real lives............when it happens, it happens.

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