Popular Post babyorca Posted March 30, 2011 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 [Nighthk11] Fox News a few days ago had a blip indicating the Iraqi Gov’t would be bankrupt unless they produced an international currency by 8 April [Nighthk11] currently on the ground inside Iraq are diplomats from the EU and ambassadors placeing the EU-s laws concerning Trade agreements and such to Iraq [Nighthk11] The US gov’t is set to shut down on 9 April- Technically this means NO MONEY [Nighthk11] Iraq’s Dinar is backed by the US dollar currently at 53 billion in reserves [Nighthk11] Does it seem fair to believe that shoukld the US gov’t shut down that Iraq would be bankrupt if their currency is backed by the dollar? [Nighthk11] An inaugural is set for acceptance into the WTO on 8 April (Must have a fulkly tradeable currency to join that club) [Nighthk11] They are emplaceing Forex’s into all provinces in Iraq as of now [Nighthk11] The turkish ambassador is currently in Iraq seeking to INVEST [Nighthk11] Iraq has been invited to join the GCC as full members and this process has been fast tracked (Must have a tradeable currency) [Nighthk11] Inflation is rising now- all other options to contain this has been used except RV [Nighthk11] everything is now in plain sight and comming together for RV [Nighthk11] several US treasuary agents involved in the RV have departed Iraq yesterday for the US [Nighthk11] All Banks are now tied in electronically to the new banking system within CBI [Nighthk11] Visa cards have been distributed to first – parliment members- business owners- and now are set to be released to the people (who have jobs)- Must have a tradeable currency to be used globally [Nighthk11] IMF documents clearly state the plan and who is driving the train -IMF-WTO-WB- new SDR’s are on the horizon (Special Drawing Rights) [Nighthk11] The base rate of the dinar is as I have been informed currently at $3.20-$3.22 [Nighthk11] I am now of the opinion that 31 March thru 7 April is a window of opportunity for what we want to see with the dinar [Nighthk11] the final security minister issue is set to be done this week [Nighthk11] so all I can see at this moment is that issues are falling into place- I am joined in this opinion by Breitling and others- It is about to really happen [Nighthk11] That is all I have at the moment- all done folks- many thanks [Lady of the Lake] Nighthk11 when you say base rate? does that mean it can go more? or ? [Nighthk11] Yes lady- IMF has approved the base rate of the dinar at the insistance of Iraqi leaders at that rate- It can and IMO will come out higher [jlchlr] could you explain the ramifications if the US govt shuts down? Can Iraq peg to the Euro or what do you think would happen? [Nighthk11] It was related to me that Kuwait has no problems with the Iqd being higher than theirs because of demographics ie: 3 million vs 30 million people- geographically , Iraq is 5 times larger than Kuwait- therefore more resources to support their requested value which is now higher than $3.10-$3.22 [radar64] Is Maliki going to be allowed to mess anymore things up, or is he just being allowed to function as a smoke screen? [Nighthk11] Currently- each nation on this planet it tied to each other- does not matter how big or small- the United States has the largest economy in the world- technically what a “Shutdown” means is that they have not approved a budget for running the gov’t- it will still run as before- but there must be funding for government offices to provide services [Nighthk11] Maliki is not an issue here anymore- that is smoke and mirrors- yes he is taking the heat- but look- when is the final security position stated as going to be filled- wed- thurs this week- just in time for end of first quarter of 2011 [idahoshorty] can you tell us what other currancies would be good to get , you said to have more then US dollars [Nighthk11] Kuwaiti Dinar- Euro- Gold -Silver- Canadian Dollar- British Pound- Saudi Rial- Jordian Dollar- Baranian Dinar- US Dollars [FITTER 1] OK, QUESTION SIR IF I MAY. [radar64] Thanks for confirmation, kinda my thoughts, too, just always the question after so many shenanagans [Nighthk11] Yes Fitter? [FITTER 1] JUST BECUASE THE US GOVT SHUTS DOWN, THE GOI HAS 53 BILLION IN RESERVE [FITTER 1] OUR MONEY IS STILL A WORTHY NOTE [FITTER 1] THERE FORE OUR SHUT DOWN SHOULD NIT EFFECT THE GOI’S FUNCTIONABILITY [Nighthk11] The US dollar will not lose it’s standing as far as useability and value- the statement was technical by FOX NEWS- what they are saying in essence is that Iraq needs to stop strap hanging on our monet and put international value to their own [FITTER 1] OK TY MAKES SENSE NOW [Nighthk11] Fitter- What defines the value of a currency [FITTER 1] THE VALUE OF THE GOVT FULL FAITH IN BACKING AND INFLATION, GDP ETC [Astro Guy] The value of currency is determined by its selling and purchase price as a commodity. [FITTER 1] OURS FLUCUATES DUE TO UNEMPLOYMENT, OUR HOUSING CRISIS, LACK OF NEW CONSTRUCTION WHICH IS ALL PART OF THE GDP [Nighthk11] correct- our money is backed by our gov’t and the word of the people of the United States- so if a country is using our currency for reserves and our gov’t shuts down due to budget difficulties technically all that money is now worthless- until the gov’t reactivates- Iraq’s dinar is backed by the dollar- it would appear that FOX NEWS is tired of them hanging onto us too [FITTER 1] AGREED[FITTER 1] BUT JUST SO FOLKS KNOW THIS IS NOT A BANKRUPCTY ISSUE, ITS DUE TO LACK OF A NEW BUDGET, JUST SO NONE GETS CONFUSED Nighthk11] Basic point here is that everyone is sick and tired of Iraq’s BS- it is now time with all the help they have been given to stand on their own- their currency going international is a strong indicator that they have arrived at that point [FITTER 1] JUST LIKE IRAQ IS NOT QORKING OFF THERE NEW BUDGET [Nighthk11] Hello Astro- Hope you are well [Astro Guy] sorry my bad. didnt mean to interrupt two best minds. [jlchlr] thanks night and fitter, that is more of the explanation I was looking for. Just didn’t ask the right question. [Astro Guy] i m fine [FITTER 1] Nighthk11 ,Astro Guy CAN YOU GUYS TELL US WHY THE GOI IS NOT WORKING OFF THE NEW BUDGET THAT HAS BEEN PASSED? [radar64] Are you saying that because of the billions of USD invested in Iraqi and its currency that its effecting the value of our currency because it is worth nothing at this point? [Nighthk11] From what I have been able to see here- it looks like everything is comming together towards the target date they have set for the dinar [Nighthk11] Fitter- who says they are not? [FITTER 1] WELL NO SPENDING OF MAJOR PROJECTS ASUCH AS WATER AND ELECTRIC SO FAR, THATS A START RIGHT [FITTER 1] THE VISA THING THOUGH IS HUGE, POINTS TO A END, BELIEVE IT OR NOT GUYS IT DOES [Nighthk11] radar what I am saying is that the dinar is backed now at 53 billion in us dollar reserves- should the US gov’t not do something with our own budget such as extend the debt ceiling or get an influx of monies other than the dollar for reserve purposes to bolster the value without having to print more- then technically all monies used by other countries as far as reserve is null and voin until the us gov’t reactivates [FITTER 1] VERY GOOD EXPLANATION Nighthk11 [radar64] Maybe I asked a vague question, Night, but that answers my question. [Nighthk11] Fitter- You can have all the viable funds in the world- but if you do not have the skills and knowledge to use those funds- they sit dormant or are returned to the national treasuary [Nighthk11] This is why they had such a l;arge surplus of dinar in those banks left over- because it was NOT USED- mainly because they did not know how FITTER 1] DOUBLE SIDED QUESTION, I WOULD SAY THEY RETURN TO TREASURY EVENTALLY [Nighthk11] At current- they have direct UN involvement in all provinces aside from the PRT’s (Provential Reconstruction teams from UN) [FITTER 1] OK I SEE WHERE YOU WHERE GOING [Nighthk11] What has been happining of late is Iraq is flooded with professionals who know how to use the monies allocated emplace the laws required for international acceptance- and the ability to get this currency into the world stage- it is here now [FITTER 1] WORKS FOR ME THANKS MY FRIEND FOR THE EDUCATION OF SOME THINGS I DIDNT KNOW, AGAIN TY [Nighthk11] Given what has been stated about the US gov’t budget- the WTO inaugural- all the important people currently on the ground- Investment laws re-written to be more accepted to international investors- everything is in place- there will still be some minor issues but they will NOT IMPEDE the dinar showing up on the world stage [idahoshorty] Night I hear all traders have to send Dinar that hasn’t sold back to the US treasury is this true and why [Nighthk11] No one has a crystal ball to predict what has been done in secret- but given what we know of their actions- it gives us a somewhat clearer window as to just when we may expect this to happen- I believe we are looking at it [Nighthk11] If true shorty- it is because all monies inside the borders of this nation are regulated by the US Treasuary- all monies and financial instruments [idahoshorty] okay thank you [Nighthk11] Also shorty- the dinar is not international- since it is about to emerge- Treasuary had to produce laws to regulate it’s use inside the US- Hence all the “New Requirements ” for dinar [FITTER 1] JUST A NOTE SHORTY, DINAR TRADERICING IS VALID THRU TODAY ONLY, ACCORDING TO THERE WEB PAGE [idahoshorty] wow okay [FITTER 1] SAFE DINAR DIDNT HAVE A DATE OF VALIDATION ON IT [Nighthk11] Folks IMO-IMO- I believe we may see the dinar hit world stage either by 31 March or sometime before the inaugural into the WTO and most certainly before the GOVT has to shut down on 9 April [idahoshorty] Dinar banker is still selling [angel42b] night they will not able to go into WTO without tradable currency right? [Nighthk11] I have been told that on a number of instances- I believe it is true- why?- Of what value is it for you to join an organization of over 200 tradeing partners with a basically worthless currency that is only good inside your country? [Nighthk11] Who is going to ship millions of dollars of their goods to you when your money cannot be converted or spent anywhere else? NO ONE [shedco] Is there not someting from WTO that states that? [Nighthk11] Yes there is- many have looked and NOT found it- this is an issue that if not found in print it is because it has been omitted- to telling a sign [shedco] Is there any other country in WTO that has a currencey that is not traded on the E Change Market? [Nighthk11] If we were told that Iraq was about to be inducted as full members into the WTO on 8 April- it was written that their currency would be international to join- today is 29 March- what do you think investors with money to spare would do? [shedco] Is there any other country that does not have a currencey that is exchanged on the market? [shedco] In the WTO [Nighthk11] Shedco- I am aware of none at this moment- all are free tradeing partners with international currency- that is why Biden went to Russia several weeks ago to help russia get into the WTO [shedco] Ok than if they are in we are in [Nighthk11] The vote was taken on 25 March and they were accepted- why because the inceptance of the dinar to worrld stage is imminant- the official ceremony will be on 8 April by that date they must have money out [Nighthk11] It is my understanding that they were specifically told to have this done by 31 march 2011 and they would not be allowed to begin the second quarter of this year without their currency not being recognised [Nighthk11] I think Shibibi is waiting for the very last piece to the GOI- to act- so far he has gotten everything he has asked for- [Nighthk11] Does it not seem rather strange to everyone that they selected wed-thurs as the final date for the sec ministers?- it will be end of month march [shedco] Well you have always seemed to make since to me. thanks [Nighthk11] TY- I have always said watch what they are doing- IMO they have followed a roadmap which spells success for them- they have moved from “Observer Status” in both the GCC and WTO to full members- must have a tradeable currency for both [idahoshorty] yes thank you again Night Great Chat [Nighthk11] folks- I sincerely hope some of this helps because I can see in chat where some are worn out from “:Predictions” and worrying- things are tight for all of us but I admonish you all to hang tough- we are closer than at anytime before- thanks as always to all of you BBL [angel42b] yes thank you Nighthk11 we love to hear from you [tea] thank you so much for your time, nighthk11. you never fail to bring fresh insight to this investment. [fritzidinar] Nighthk11 THANK YOU SIR [dmitch] Thank you Nighthk11 for the chat!!! 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanG Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Great Read! +1, Night always brings the rational back into perspective in his chats, he leaves the reader with thoughts and considerations that we may have overlooked. Very good resource IMO. Peace. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT2SHABI Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 No doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaborniake Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 As always a great post. Keeping my fingers crossed for this window of opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyque Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 GREAT CHAT! THANKS BABYORCA FOR BRINGING THIS OVER..NIGHT SEEMS TO HAVE A GREATER UNDERSTANDING AND EXPLAINATION THAN ANYONE ELSE..AGAIN THANK YOU FOR POSTING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paj1985 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Good news,thanks for post. (+1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblevine Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks babyorca! Great post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YukonJohn Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Most excellant chat...Thanks Night11 (+1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splicer09 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks Babyorca for the post. Praying night is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRERUMPH Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all of thiws makes a lot of since to me and with all thats said we can expect this train to cum to a halt and move on.. lets not forget forget people all the people that we said we would help when this thing come together so im in it to win it ..... Thank you Mr Nightk11 for your post i hope this is the last stop...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mich266 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Appreciate the posting, Babyorca, interesting and insightful chat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk 1962 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Great post! What a way to start my work day, Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammaw Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I like it. Very reasonable and very time lined. Great read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattevan Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Ok ok ok....I guess after reading all the comments I will have to go up and read babyorcas message.. Hope it's good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumb Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 , Viet Nam is a member of the WTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUHRST32 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks for the post. Excellent read with a lot of facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhammies Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Can someone show me documented proof (links) that Iraq has been accepted into the GCC and WTO? I must have missed those articles. The post has some good reasoning in it but we must verify the statements that are being issued as fact. I sure hope and pray this Nighthk11 doesn't have egg on his face come April 10th. Thanks babyorca for all your posts and research work over the last couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftruck7 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 , Viet Nam is a member of the WTO Do they have a tradable currency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preston Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 GOOD POST ! I SURE HOPE THAT THIS COMES TO AN END HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. GO RV!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KramerDinar Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I do agree with a few points: Has to have a tradable currency - though I do not believe this is required, it does make sense from a couple different standpoints. How would you be able to purchase goods if your currency cannot be traded and aside from that if you are using USD to pay for it, that would be a lot of dinar conversion going on. Having things done by the end of Q1 makes perfect sense from a bank perspective. It is the same as companies, most like to have the books closed for quarters by the start of next quarter, not in the middle of the next one. I do think though a lot of this post was facts and information, which is a switch from your basic cash in tomorrow crap, the rate I still believe is unknown. I think unless someone inside the CBI leaks it, and that would depend on who truly knew, the true rate is not going to be known until announced. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army03 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Great post make sense to me. Thanks night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do they have a tradable currency? Yes, the Dong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer22 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Show me the small denominations and the RV might be close. Just saying, IMO, there are more pieces to the puzzle left to be placed. Thx for the post babyo. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks once again Night for a wonderful chat. You bring insight and encouragement as always. God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off-the-grid Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Lancer, to my knowledge there is no proof of the lower (<50) denoms being in country, but lots of "intel" says they are. I do not expect them to be on the street until RV. Banks are supposed to already have them, ATMs are supposed to have already been programmed for them. They are useless until RV, so no reason for the populace to have them yet. Not surprised have only intel: anything official would be proof of RV coming, and they are all trying to avoid providing that! WTO - no official word on acceptance or denial. GCC - there are articles here stating that Iraq has been invited to join, but nothing on accepting the invitation. Peace and Prosperity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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