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Hmmm...

This afternoon, I was considering some of the threads I've read on this site concerning the Iraqi Dinar and supposed distribution of related currency counting machines. (...some even in armored vehicles to banks )

I figured the company that makes the machines should know all about the NID and what is going on. Well, I emailed them and asked if they were indeed selling the machine to banks, for the purpose of counting the new Iraqi Dinar.

After just a few hours, a very courteous gentleman responded to the email and called on my cell.

I asked him if the Iraqi dinar is one of the currencies the Delarue machine counted and he replied "no". However the Delarue machine he said "is used by banks around the world to count over 80 different currencies"

This Delarue salesman knew nothing about the Iraqi dinar and he sounded very believable. Why would he lie?

So, her I sit confounded as to how the Delarue machine was somehow linked to the Iraqi dinar. And I wonder why so many people make-up things and post information that is not based on fact.

http://www.delarue.com/

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The way I understand it is the machine is used to count and to detect counterfeit money printed by the dalarue company. You put different plates in the machine for the different currencies. Depending on which bank you go to they may not know a darn thing about the dinar, I know everyone i talked to has know clue what I am talking about, it doesn't mean it will not happen and the fact this guy knows nothing about it doesn't surprise me at all, not every branch does foreign currency exchanges something of this magnitude will probably be left to the larger branches.

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My son used to work for a bank and he said that banks use de la rue machines everyday doing normal banking functions like counting money and such. But not all the machines are programed to do foreign currency. He also said that if there were to be a large amount of foreign currency exchanged, it would usually be sent to the main branch and that branch would have the type of machine needed.

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I have been reading the information on here for a long time but this is my first time to post. Frankly, I don't understand this because Ali will have to have these machines to exchange currencies. To me, to debunk the machines is to say that Ali is dishonest yet he is a member of Better Business Bureau and has had no complaints against his company. Is he just selling the Dinars with no intention of buying them back. If so, he really good at his con game. He talks to most everyone who calls him. He is talking about opening additional offices. This can only be to cash in. He does not need several offices to sell Dinars. He is doing that via the net. No one walks into his office to buy Dinars. But they will be walking into his office to exchange currencies. But here again, maybe that particular person that he talked to just was not well informed. Maybe he was told not to acknowledge the delivery, etc. who knows?

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Here's another link and a pull quote: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/currency-reform.htm

"Bremer announced that the Coalition would print and distribute new banknotes for Iraq. In response to this press announcement in Baghdad, De La Rue confirmed that it was in discussions to assist in the production of banknotes for Iraq. The Company led a consortium of global currency specialists to manufacture the banknotes. De La Rue is the world 's largest commercial security printer and papermaker, involved in the production of over 150 national currencies and a wide range of security documents such as travellers cheques and vouchers. Thomas de la Rue began printing British postage stamps in 1855, and obtained the contract for all Indian postal requirements."

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Any kind of banking information is privileged, they are not going to tell strangers who has their machines or what they are capable of. They print the Iraqi dinar, making the adapters to count and verify it is not a big deal.

De La Rue offers hardware training in the US

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De La Rue North America, Inc. provides in-depth, customised training courses to clients worldwide. Our in-house training strengthens the mechanical and technical knowledge base of clients to ensure they are able to maximise De La Rue hardware products to their fullest potential.

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Hmmm...

This afternoon, I was considering some of the threads I've read on this site concerning the Iraqi Dinar and supposed distribution of related currency counting machines. (...some even in armored vehicles to banks )

I figured the company that makes the machines should know all about the NID and what is going on. Well, I emailed them and asked if they were indeed selling the machine to banks, for the purpose of counting the new Iraqi Dinar.

After just a few hours, a very courteous gentleman responded to the email and called on my cell.

I asked him if the Iraqi dinar is one of the currencies the Delarue machine counted and he replied "no". However the Delarue machine he said "is used by banks around the world to count over 80 different currencies"

This Delarue salesman knew nothing about the Iraqi dinar and he sounded very believable. Why would he lie?

So, her I sit confounded as to how the Delarue machine was somehow linked to the Iraqi dinar. And I wonder why so many people make-up things and post information that is not based on fact.

http://www.delarue.com/

82ndAirborne, you have just contributed to the rumor mill by this post..not true IMO (see below)

Ali at Dinar Trade certifies that all of the IQD's he sells have been checked by a De La Rue counting and authentication machine! I do not think that he is lying .. why would he? As far as the info from the guy who called you, ask him if he would want an education from someone who uses the machine (probably at least weekly) in his business selling the IQD, Ali. IMO the guy is not a lier, he just has no experience with the IQD. How many people are dealing in buying and selling IQD as a business? Not many. When Ali starts buying back some day, you can bet your house that he will make sure what he buys back is authentic and counted correctly and use the DLR machines to do that. So here is the link to the IQD and the DLR machine from one source..the biggest source in the USA..Dinar Trade. Go figure! Not made up, just fact and not so sure why such a big deal. I have bought a lot from Ali at Dinar Trade and every shipment has the certificate of authenticity with them stating the DLR machine use. DinarTrade.com lol

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So, all these self-explanatory facts about IQD flooding the whole world are simply all lies and fictions. The CBI is always aware of how much genuine IQD are printed with limits strictly under government's restrictions and monetary controls and Iraq' economic accounts are audited in each and every fiscal year of theirs. Unless some illegal syndicates are printing fake IQD and selling them to unknown sources in certain countries, we are safe. We believe the revaluation of IQD at a good rate should not be badly affected. Every investor of money matters should know that flooding the whole world with excessive currency can expedite depreciating its value. IQD won't be the case, we hope! It is not surprising to us most employees working in banks don't know what is IQD at all.

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Well, I know who the De La Rue company is...but I don't know a thing about Ali, other than what you say he said.

Who to believe?

Someone who has nothing to gain by lying (De La Rue) or someone who is selling something (Ali).

I would ask this Ali guy why the Delarue company representative didn't know anything about the NID, yet he named off a couple dozen other countries currencies before I interrupted him and made him stop.

I think someone should take a picture of a Delarue machine with dinars in it, being counted. This would be great advertising for Ali and his company. So, whoever know this guy, please ask him for this evidence. If he is legitimate, this will not be a problem. If he get gets angry, I think he has something to hide. Truth doesn't run and hide.

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Ali gives a copy of his certificate with his machines serial number on it. Dinarbanker has this youtube movie (Dinar Banker - De La Rue Machine) demostrating their machine using dinar. There are too many other sites that talk about this new currency being created by this company. Not sure why they would tell you what they did, does not make any sense what-so-ever. The machine does work to count and find counterfiet dinar. Rest Assured.

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I bank at a credit union,. during a transaction I was talking to a teller about the iraqi dinar. he told me that he also had bought some iraqi dinars and that that credit union has been using a de la rue machine for some time now. this machine has nothing to do specifically with the iraqi dinar except that it might count that currency. I don't get how this machine ever got credit for the dinar rv-ing, its just a currency counting tool.

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I think that people that read things without any fact checking are just gulible and will believe anything. I think that TRUST, but VERIFY is in order when dealing with financial matters.
Sure, in certain matters when you have the AUTHORITY to get the info to verify their statement.. In this case you have ZERO authority to confirm any of the info. They have no obligation to be truthful or not. maybe they are just as ill informed as 90% of your fellow Americans... you can form your own opinions just by lurking and reading info off of the AP Wire service... as far as fact checking is concerned, you spend more time trying to get to someone that MIGHT have info.. and when you reach them, they 1) Might have been sworn to secrecy 2) Peter Principle applies- and are just ignorant of what
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FROM WIKIPEDIA.....

Banknotes

De La Rue sells High-security paper and printing technology for over 150 national currencies. They claim to be the largest such corporation in the world.

De la Rue makes paper and prints banknotes for many banks worldwide, including:

Central Bank of Bahrain

Central Bank of Barbados

Central Bank of Belize

Bank of England

Reserve Bank of Fiji

Banco de Guatemala

Banco Central de Honduras

Central Bank of Iraq

Isle of Man Government

Bank of Jamaica

Central Bank of Kenya

Central Bank of Kuwait

National Bank of the Republic of Macedonia

Bank of Scotland

The Royal Bank of Scotland

Monetary Authority of Singapore

Central Bank of Sri Lanka

Bank of Tanzania

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