Nothings makes sense anymore

[joeintt]

IMHO if I was M or S and I was planning to RI/RV my currency so that my people would become financially "liberated" after so many years of suffering under one regime after another, then I would have made sure that it would be on the top of my agenda of things to do.

I know many will say (in answer to what I just stated) that there are a series of "steps" that need to be followed before that final big momentous event (RI/RV) happens. Since I invested in the IQD, like all/most of us, I accepted that these steps were required and so I followed all of the steps, one by one, with great expectation that once that "next step" was accomplished we would see the great event by Sunday (or Monday or Tuesday, etc) as predicted by the many self proclaimed experts, gurus and well sourced individuals that command these many IQD sites.

I consider myself to be a fairly clear thinking and not so easily swayed person. I still believe that my decision to invest in the IQD to be a reasonable risk to take as I accept that the fundamentals towards justifying an eventual RI/RV makes real commercial sense (and I invested in an amount that I can afford to lose).

But, NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANY MORE. If M or S (or whoever is responsible to pulling the RI/RV trigger) truly intended to do it then:

why would they allow its people to hit the streets to protest their dissatisfaction of what is NOT happening for them?

why would they allow their security forces to "kill" some of the protestors (BBC says 11) on Friday (it took only one death in Tunisia for that govt. to ultimately collapse)?

why would they see it necessary to block protestors in gaining access to the centre of Baghdad?

I am certain that everyone of the questions above can be reasonably answered but the reality of what is going on in other ME countries is very very real. The average blue collar Arab has finally awakened. They are finally seeing the power of their combined voices enmassed on the streets. They have become enpowered to demand real results from their leaders. A tsumani of people power has been unleashed in the ME that cannot now be reversed. Their voice will be heard or changes will be imposed.

M or S (or whoever is responsible to pulling the RI/RV trigger) know this!!! Yet they allowed their people to join the other ME countries in showing their dissatisfaction by protesting marches. Any reasonable man would have thought that this would have been the perfect opportuntiy to show its people (and indeed the rest of the ME) how Iraq is a model nation, how its people are being cared for, how its a beacon of democracy in the ME by enpowering its people, especially when its neighbors are fighting its own.

Yet, they allowed this perfect PR opportunity to slip through their hands?? Makes no sense!! If you really intended to bless your people with a RI/RV, which would be extremely well received, then why would you allow your people to protest, get beaten, shot at, water hosed, killed??? It just does not add up!! I am really beginning to doubt why I am here?

IMHO.....NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANY MORE!!

Be blessed all

Joe

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[umbertino]

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But, NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANY MORE.

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Did it ever?

[elv780]

We have no idea what their "plan" is or if there is one.

[Crow]

Just hold tight!! We have no control!!... Follow my daily morning routine

Get up..wake the 'puter up

Take a leak

Check dinartrade to see if he's still selling--if not u know something happened

Check forex and ex.com and cbi.iq

See nothing happened and say "sh@t gotta go to work today!"

Repeat as necessary!

I hope an RV will happen soon for us and the people of Iraq!!

I hope they get something close to being normal over there and enough of the

Madness.....and I hope it takes root and spreads across the land!!

Edited February 26, 2011 by Crow

[baydog]

To me it almost shows how little the ME care about people. It has been demonstrated many times and Iraq appears to be extended this lack of care instead of extinguishing it.

Thanks

[uncs]

This is an opinion and NOT A RUMOR. Moderators please move this post to the opinions page. I mean really mods don't you know when somebody starts a post off with. IMHO. The O stands for opinion and there is an opinion page

[blessedman]

I find myself getting delusional and getting out of touch with reality.

Shabby has stated that the most important criteria for the RV to happen is to have stability and security.

With all the corruption and rioting going on it would be like giving drugs to a drug addict.

Hope I'm wrong but the reality of the situation doesn't lend to an RV, maybe someday as it is sorely needed but the leadership is not their yet.

My son is in special ops (Green Beret) and has been there stated that they will never be a unified nation because of their tribe mentality.

Sorry should be in opinions.

Edited February 26, 2011 by blessedman

[NCTRIGUY]

This has been previously stated and there is truth to this. If the Iraqi Government was anywhere close to RV'ing, they would not be giving their Dinars away at auctions. All of the current currency would be hoarded.

When you see currency no longer sold at auctions, when it becomes scarce, that is when you know it will be close to RV.

Until then we are no closer to this RV'ing than we were 5 years ago.

My two cents, let the beat down begin from those in denial.

[jaykay]

You are right something does not make sense.They are planning something else

[freaky frank]

I suggest you negative people go and listen to DD radio show with guest speaker Rudy Coehen, it will put your mind at ease and make sence too everything you are questioning, I think this guy is right on with this investment speculation, of all the rumors out there and BS speculation this guy make complete sense and has the knowledge to back every one of his accusations......................

[NCTRIGUY]

I suggest you negative people go and listen to DD radio show with guest speaker Rudy Coehen, it will put your mind at ease and make sence too everything you are questioning, I think this guy is right on with this investment speculation, of all the rumors out there and BS speculation this guy make complete sense and has the knowledge to back every one of his accusations......................

FF you really should learn the difference between being negative, and being a realist and not a minion following the disillusioned. If you don’t like what I or anyone else wrote you can choose to ignore it. But what I said is my opinion based on factual knowledge and common sense. If that doesn’t fit into your warped sense of reality so be it. But I have simple Economics 101 on my side.

[gallinipper]

i don't believe the goi has much more control over the date and rate than i do.

[wingsofhope]

I feel that as long as people keep buying dinar at the CBI action, Iraq has no reason to RV. All their USD requirements are met and the oil business is great right now. They still need to become a member in the WTO which was backed by the US yesterday.

[EagleEye]

Though I have said it several times, it bears repeating: Most of the discussion in this thread ignores one VERY important thing--- the Middle Eastern mindset is TOTALLY foreign to OUR thinking and way of life. In that mindest SAVING FACE is CENTRAL...when you understand that much of that which makes no sense to us is suddenly more comprehensible...

By the way this post did IMO belong in opinion ....so I moved it here...

Hurry RV !!!

[joeintt]

This is an opinion and NOT A RUMOR. Moderators please move this post to the opinions page. I mean really mods don't you know when somebody starts a post off with. IMHO. The O stands for opinion and there is an opinion page

real sorry to upset your day....YES I AGREE......THIS POST SHOULD BE IN OPINIONS AND NOT RUMORS.

Please forgive me

Joe

[jphillips]

Yet, they allowed this perfect PR opportunity to slip through their hands?? Makes no sense!! If you really intended to bless your people with a RI/RV, which would be extremely well received, then why would you allow your people to protest, get beaten, shot at, water hosed, killed??? It just does not add up!! I am really beginning to doubt why I am here?

IMHO.....NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANY MORE!!

Logical line of questioning and I could not agree more that they let a PERFECT opportunity to slip through their fingers if they were going to RV. I am invested and don't want to be negative either so I continue to draw what I consider to be logical conclusions to try to understand the mechanics of current politics and the other 'steps' that need to be taken before a revaluation occurs.

Then I had an epiphany. I look at the US gov't who is giving advice to the Iraqi gov't on how to proceed fundamentally and economically and then, like a lightning bolt, it hit me. We are expecting a GOVERNMENT to act rationally and reasonably in light of some of the most troubling times our world has seen. I look at the US gov't reaction to our own financial crisis and have to ask whether or not the underlying philosophy (White House and Treasury) is to hold up the value of the dollar, but their response to this fiscal crisis is to print more money and drive the dollar down. Devalued currency sound familiar? At the expense of the populace? Hmmmm.

On top of that, our current administration, including Treasury, has an entirely warped view of the proper function and role of the government in society. Rather than minimize bureaucracy and let free market reign, we have taken huge leaps and bounds to becoming a Socialist country. Being a small business owner, I don't think I can take much more of this 'recovery'. Two words, employment and housing. It is all smoke and mirrors and the truth eventually always comes to the surface. So if we can't run our own economy, how on earth do we think we can help guide the Iraqi government as they grow from infancy?

This is a far reach to Iraq and the RV, but I can't help but wonder if the US is helping to hold back an RV. After all, if they did RV it would make Iraq a far less dependent state on our resources and our guidance. JMHO.

[harleyharryfl]

IMHO if I was M or S and I was planning to RI/RV my currency so that my people would become financially "liberated" after so many years of suffering under one regime after another, then I would have made sure that it would be on the top of my agenda of things to do.

I know many will say (in answer to what I just stated) that there are a series of "steps" that need to be followed before that final big momentous event (RI/RV) happens. Since I invested in the IQD, like all/most of us, I accepted that these steps were required and so I followed all of the steps, one by one, with great expectation that once that "next step" was accomplished we would see the great event by Sunday (or Monday or Tuesday, etc) as predicted by the many self proclaimed experts, gurus and well sourced individuals that command these many IQD sites.

I consider myself to be a fairly clear thinking and not so easily swayed person. I still believe that my decision to invest in the IQD to be a reasonable risk to take as I accept that the fundamentals towards justifying an eventual RI/RV makes real commercial sense (and I invested in an amount that I can afford to lose).

But, NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANY MORE. If M or S (or whoever is responsible to pulling the RI/RV trigger) truly intended to do it then:

why would they allow its people to hit the streets to protest their dissatisfaction of what is NOT happening for them?

why would they allow their security forces to "kill" some of the protestors (BBC says 11) on Friday (it took only one death in Tunisia for that govt. to ultimately collapse)?

why would they see it necessary to block protestors in gaining access to the centre of Baghdad?

I am certain that everyone of the questions above can be reasonably answered but the reality of what is going on in other ME countries is very very real. The average blue collar Arab has finally awakened. They are finally seeing the power of their combined voices enmassed on the streets. They have become enpowered to demand real results from their leaders. A tsumani of people power has been unleashed in the ME that cannot now be reversed. Their voice will be heard or changes will be imposed.

M or S (or whoever is responsible to pulling the RI/RV trigger) know this!!! Yet they allowed their people to join the other ME countries in showing their dissatisfaction by protesting marches. Any reasonable man would have thought that this would have been the perfect opportuntiy to show its people (and indeed the rest of the ME) how Iraq is a model nation, how its people are being cared for, how its a beacon of democracy in the ME by enpowering its people, especially when its neighbors are fighting its own.

Yet, they allowed this perfect PR opportunity to slip through their hands?? Makes no sense!! If you really intended to bless your people with a RI/RV, which would be extremely well received, then why would you allow your people to protest, get beaten, shot at, water hosed, killed??? It just does not add up!! I am really beginning to doubt why I am here?

IMHO.....NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANY MORE!!

Be blessed all

Joe

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I too think that they missed an opportunity but I will say this I do believe that M did tell the people of Iraq that the RV/RI is on the very near horizon . I feel that he would have faced a full on linch mob had he not have said something to that affect. he was right down in with the protesters talking about things. I don't have a link but saw on France 24 tv last night . I do believe that Sadar was let in on it too and that's why he told his crew not to protest as well. If not i believe it would have been a much larger protest than it was remember 30 million people that are not happy ....We need to keep positive and know its coming it will happen don't have rate or date but know it will soon .........

[joeintt]

Though I have said it several times, it bears repeating: Most of the discussion in this thread ignores one VERY important thing--- the Middle Eastern mindset is TOTALLY foreign to OUR thinking and way of life. In that mindest SAVING FACE is CENTRAL...when you understand that much of that which makes no sense to us is suddenly more comprehensible...

By the way this post did IMO belong in opinion ....so I moved it here...

Hurry RV !!!

Thanks for moving it....my bad

But it is for xactly the saving face scenario that makes me question why they did not RV if they could... They have lost more face by having their people scream and march against them. Now, if they were to RV/RI it will now appear as if the people had to force them to do it.

This is more of a slap in the face. This is what leads me to wonder if they have any control on this matter ...or worse if they plan to ever do it.

Joe