Should Health Care Law Be Suspended Until the Supreme Court Weighs In On It?

[Qman]

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/02/01/health-care-law-suspended-supreme-court-weighs/#

[Soldiering4U]

I voted on there little pole Yes... This law is going to make a down economy even worse... and hey if you have never tried out government ran healthcare go to a VA hospital some time... trust me not the best in the world for our troops who deserve it

[iamlizzyb]

It is not a matter of should it be suspended, it is a matter of it is legally required to be halted until heard by the Supreme Court. Because of the way the Judge ruled, there does not need to be an issuance of an injunction to halt Obamacare. The media is incorrect in reporting that the judge needed to issue an injuction. I wish these guys would do some fact checking before going ahead with their stories.

By the Obama Administration continuing on with implementing Obamacare, the Obama Administration is actually in contempt of court.

Link to Judge's Decision

Edited February 2, 2011 by iamlizzyb

[detroitjazzman]

I voted on there little pole Yes... This law is going to make a down economy even worse... and hey if you have never tried out government ran healthcare go to a VA hospital some time... trust me not the best in the world for our troops who deserve it

I am a 100% disabled Viet Nam Vet, I use the VA hospital here in Detroit (I also have BC/BS) and have found the personnel at this VA to be helpful, friendly and competent. I have never gone to the VA , and been met with anythng other courtesy and a helpful attitude. Im sure they would appreciate your reference to them as being ineffective

[NotReallyTex]

I wish you would have done a poll on this. I am curious about how others here feel about it. I would vote yes to suspend though.

[Dr Alan]

It is not a matter of should it be suspended, it is a matter of it is legally required to be halted until heard by the Supreme Court. Because of the way the Judge ruled, there does not need to be an issuance of an injunction to halt Obamacare. The media is incorrect in reporting that the judge needed to issue an injuction. I wish these guys would do some fact checking before going ahead with their stories.

By the Obama Administration continuing on with implementing Obamacare, the Obama Administration is actually in contempt of court.

Link to Judge's Decision

Amen. Well written. The O administration is more and more lawless every day.

[USMC_2674]

I am a 100% disabled Viet Nam Vet, I use the VA hospital here in Detroit (I also have BC/BS) and have found the personnel at this VA to be helpful, friendly and competent. I have never gone to the VA , and been met with anythng other courtesy and a helpful attitude. Im sure they would appreciate your reference to them as being ineffective

I have found the exact opposite to be true of every VA hospital I have been in. I too am a disabled Veteran, 50% disability rating with no use of my left shoulder.

The VA healthcare is abysmal. Incompetent, next to useless. It takes me MONTHS to get an appointment and then when I show up for my appointment at 7:00am, I'm seen around 4-5pm!

Semper Fidelis

[Slaydadea]

I signed on with the Military in the 70's and honestly I have little recollection in my life without some kind of conflict, campaign, or war. I was in Jr. High during Nam and never had the dis pleasure of participating in that one. My son is currently in Afghanistan as we speak and I hear all stuff folks don't like to hear. Whether you were drafted or volunteered, the issue is, you served. Some come home in not so great shape and some come home in body bags. It's the nature of the beast! My point is, those that come home wounded, now what? Do we kick them to side because they are no longer useful? Apparently, that's what's happening. Due to our Government's greed and inability to balance a checkbook and let the corporate world bankrupt the greatest nation in the free world, the military are the most vulnerable because they have very little say so, by design. There are so many more areas to cut first including foreign aid for every mishap. I'm not saying these folks don't need help, but are we the only country out there? I have to say, of all the attempts and attacks again the USA, I've never seen one more well orchestrated against our nation than the one being that is being performed by our own.

[detroitjazzman]

I have found the exact opposite to be true of every VA hospital I have been in. I too am a disabled Veteran, 50% disability rating with no use of my left shoulder.

The VA healthcare is abysmal. Incompetent, next to useless. It takes me MONTHS to get an appointment and then when I show up for my appointment at 7:00am, I'm seen around 4-5pm!

Semper Fidelis

I cannot comment on your experiences...What I did say of the John Dingle Facility here in michigan I give high grades to.....Thats my story...and Im sticking to it...As a side note, I guess if you look hard enough you can find something to support any position. Im just relating mine.

[Soldiering4U]

I am a 100% disabled Viet Nam Vet, I use the VA hospital here in Detroit (I also have BC/BS) and have found the personnel at this VA to be helpful, friendly and competent. I have never gone to the VA , and been met with anythng other courtesy and a helpful attitude. Im sure they would appreciate your reference to them as being ineffective

I have taken my dad who is a cancer survivor from Agent Orange and had his back broken while he was fighting for this country I love he had 100% disability... He fills out the surveys every time he goes and has never been "Satisfied" except for once, in the only place he was ever treated as more than a # in a book was in Oregon where he had his cancer surgery done... then the VA cut him from being 100% to 30% and told him to get back to work after being off for 5 years not to mention all of the side effects of the surgery and all of the appointments my dad has a hard time sweeping floors at home let alone being a janitor at Wal-Mart which is a job he just had to quit because he can hardly move in the morning... I am sure there are good VA's out there but I have only found one and I have been to 12 of them with my dad and his problems and I found 1 not a good record from my stand point... I stand by my first statement

[Kenneth]

The Obama administration pushed back forcefully on Monday afternoon against a Florida judge's ruling that its signature health care law is invalid, calling the judgment a legally "dubious" reading of the law. In an interview with The Huffington Post, outgoing senior adviser David Axelrod accused Judge Roger Vinson of judicial overreach for concluding that the health care law's individual mandate was both unconstitutional and not severable from the rest of the legislation -- meaning the entire law had to be tossed. "I'm not a lawyer," said Axelrod, from a makeshift office in the West Wing. "But I will tell you that I think that many lawyers are very dubious about that. The role of the courts is not to look for expansive opportunities to invalidate an act of Congress -- it is to rule narrowly as possible and leave the intent of the legislation.

http://content.usatoday.com/topics/quote/People/Politicians,+Government+Officials,+Strategists/David+Axelrod/09iuapF8mOdqM/0dXa29q64Y2SP/3

[Jac]

The Obama administration pushed back forcefully on Monday afternoon against a Florida judge's ruling that its signature health care law is invalid, calling the judgment a legally "dubious" reading of the law. In an interview with The Huffington Post, outgoing senior adviser David Axelrod accused Judge Roger Vinson of judicial overreach for concluding that the health care law's individual mandate was both unconstitutional and not severable from the rest of the legislation -- meaning the entire law had to be tossed. "I'm not a lawyer," said Axelrod, from a makeshift office in the West Wing. "But I will tell you that I think that many lawyers are very dubious about that. The role of the courts is not to look for expansive opportunities to invalidate an act of Congress -- it is to rule narrowly as possible and leave the intent of the legislation.

http://content.usato...ple/Politicians,+Government+Officials,+Strategists/David+Axelrod/09iuapF8mOdqM/0dXa29q64Y2SP/3

It would seem the American thing to do would be suspend it until the Supreme Court rules on the Constitutionality of the Healthcare Law. This Act of Congress is likely to be ruled an illegal.

God Bless America!

Edited February 3, 2011 by Jac

[SailorDave]

This is not a voting issue at this time. It has been remanded to the courts.

The President of the United States of America, Mr. Obama is responsible for his actions and the actions of his administration.

Mr. Obama allowed his adminstration to issue, if not directed them to put forth. statements that the ruling by a Senior Federal Judge is as follows: "The White House says a ruling by a federal judge against the new health care law is an example of judicial "overreaching" and "activism."

"This ruling is well out of the mainstream of judicial opinion," Stephanie Cutter, an assistant to President Obama, wrote on the White House's blog after Judge Roger Vinson in Florida ruled that the entire law is unconstitutional."

"A White House official also warned that people “should not view this as the government shutting down its implementation efforts.”

"Cutter, on the blog, accused the judge of putting "all of the new benefits, cost savings and patient protections that were included in the law at risk." She added, "We don’t believe this kind of judicial activism will be upheld and we are confident that the Affordable Care Act will ultimately be declared constitutional by the courts."

The law is unconstitutional until declared otherwise by a higher court or amended by the issuing authority (congressional law).

Mr. Obama is in contempt of federal court as long as he, or any member of his administration continues to pursue implementation the health reform law otherwise know as the Afforable Health Care law, or any portion of that bill as rammed through congress on Christmas eve 2009.

Mr. Obama and his administration seemed to be very content to continue implementation of this law when it was not struck down by Judge Hudson. Where is the same adherence to judical law and principal when it is struck down by Judge Vincent?

Feel free to refute if you have the information to do so and conversely, bash if you don't have any factual information or constructive comments to add to my opinion.

[len]

I am a physician and have many vets that come to see me because they can not get an appointment for urgent care. They go there for their chronic ailments. They do not complain about the care they receive it is how long it takes to get anything done.

Expect a 3-6 month wait to see a specialist and then another month or two to get an MRI or any type of testing done.

My patients complain if it takes a few days to get a test scheduled and expect the results in a day or two. The average American would howl if the Government was in total control of healthcare. I am 55 years old and had to have a hip replacement. I could schedule it at my convenience. I have heard from patients from Canada and England that I would be placed on a waiting list and it could take up to a year to have it done.

This makes total sense as the surgeon has no incentive to work. He makes a flat salary and has to preform a minimum amount of work; and that's all he does. In the American system the surgeon is paid for performance and he/she, (trying to be PC), is paid for the surgeries done. The incentive is to work as opposed to the one payer Government systems.

I don't know if anyone has read the 2000 page, snuck through on a Sunday night bill, in its entirety There a more non medical things in it than we know of. Have you heard of the sales tax on Real Estate, that goes into effect next year? Large employers say it is cheaper to pay the fine than to give employees healthcare; and why should private citizens be fined if they don't buy the offered healthcare. What if it's too expensive?

From what I've read there is way more bad than good.

Sorry for the rambling it's a hot spot subject with me.

L

[Jac]

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Edited February 3, 2011 by Jac