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Close on that one Tommyboy and it still works your way - However When Ben was asked what had been created he replied "A Democracy - If you can keep it" The if "you can keep it" is a little more telling and sounds like the founders knew that forces would try to take it away. Hmmmmmm smart guys them founders!

Thanks Tommyboy for reminding us.

BTW everybody tool tip - six inch PVC pipe and end caps. Dont forget X marks the spot!

Don't want to start an argument, But I'm pretty doggone sure he said "Republic". This was covered under other posts (with a thread) about the primary differences between a democracy and a republic. Let me look for it and I'll get back. Remember in the Pledge of allegience ...."and to the 'Republic' for which it stands"....

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This is why this is posted in rumors. The responses by some to things of this nature are absolutely amazing but not surprising. I know, stash everything under your mattress or in an old coffee can in your backyard and don't forget to stock up on spam and water for your shelter. Better yet if things suck so bad here as it appears it is because of our current administration then move.

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Close on that one Tommyboy and it still works your way - However When Ben was asked what had been created he replied "A Democracy - If you can keep it" The if "you can keep it" is a little more telling and sounds like the founders knew that forces would try to take it away. Hmmmmmm smart guys them founders!

Thanks Tommyboy for reminding us.

BTW everybody tool tip - six inch PVC pipe and end caps. Dont forget X marks the spot!

LOL Levye... I remember in the 80's when we thought the powers that be were going to take our guns, we were putting then in PVC and burying them in the yard strait up to thwart detection... the more things change.. the more they stay the same. Yup smart men those founders. Too bad their predecessors are more about self importance and self wealth than for God and Country. And yes we are a REPUBLIC not a democracy.

"A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government."

Thomas Jefferson

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Don't want to start an argument, But I'm pretty doggone sure he said "Republic". This was covered under other posts (with a thread) about the primary differences between a democracy and a republic. Let me look for it and I'll get back. Remember in the Pledge of allegience ...."and to the 'Republic' for which it stands"....

Here's the link www.lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIdeal/aspects/demrep.html

This is about the difference btw a democracy and a republic.

Don't know why, but it doesn't seem to be showing as a link. Maybe I just don't know how. Guess you'll have to cut and paste.

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Don't want to start an argument, But I'm pretty doggone sure he said "Republic". This was covered under other posts (with a thread) about the primary differences between a democracy and a republic. Let me look for it and I'll get back. Remember in the Pledge of allegience ...."and to the 'Republic' for which it stands"....

OOOHHH you might be right - I was just focusing on the "keeping it" part. either way its all good! :):):) I wasnt trying to argue I was just focusing on the wisdom. Sorry if it came across nedative in any way :)

LOL Levye... I remember in the 80's when we thought the powers that be were going to take our guns, we were putting then in PVC and burying them in the yard strait up to thwart detection... the more things change.. the more they stay the same. Yup smart men those founders. Too bad their predecessors are more about self importance and self wealth than for God and Country. And yes we are a REPUBLIC not a democracy.

"A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government."

Thomas Jefferson

still missing some stuff from then - I think I forgot to X the spot. I was younger and things were much foggier back then. :unsure:

Thanks for the quote from TJ!

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This is a true story.

Almost 2 years ago a friend of mine had been receiving letter from the government about a paperweight she had been given by her father. It was nothing to her just a gift but according the the government it has uranium in it. (I think that's what it was) She had said her father was one of the higher ups in a company that mined it and when he passed away she received it. That was many years ago too. But with all that has changed in our government now they tracker her and that paperweight.

So she was silly and didn't respond to the letters, yes her bad. She didn't think it was a big deal she actually didn't even know where it was in her home.

So last summer her house was attacked. I say attacked because of the way they did it. Swat teams and FBI invade her home. They literally tore her home in half. (I saw her home after wards.) Her, her husband and her daughter were all in handcuffs while the neighbors watched the show. It was a terrible ordeal for her and by the time it was all done she had over $20k in legal fees and a ruined home.

They got their silly paperweight though. I guess they thought a 55 year old white woman who trains horses was some secret terrorist. I don't know if she will ever recover from what happened to her.

So although we do live in a great country it is not without its flaws and this might be a rumor or not. But as for me I totally believe it could be 100% true.

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If this ever RV's I have plans to take a (fairly large) amount out of the bank a little at a time so that no report of a large transaction is made and this amount will be kept somewhere very secure without being in a bank. You have to be careful how much you take out at one time. It's just like depositing too much at one time. A report of it goes straight to the government and they will know who has been removing large amounts. Then all they have to do is come up with some outragious reason for you to be holding it or say that you have it for illegal reasons and then they can confiscate it. My trust of the banks these days is very limited.

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U.S DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS TOLD BANKS - IN WRITING - IT MAY INSPECT SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES WITHOUT WARRANT AND SIEZE ANY GOLD, SILVER, GUNS OR OTHER VALUABLES IT FINDS INSIDE THOSE BOXES!

According to in-house memos now circulating, the DHS has issued orders to banks across America which announce to them that "under the Patriot Act" the DHS has the absolute right to seize, without any warrant whatsoever, any and all customer bank accounts, to make "periodic and unannounced" visits to any bank to open and inspect the contents of "selected safe deposit boxes."

Further, the DHS "shall, at the discretion of the agent supervising the search, remove, photograph or seize as evidence" any of the following items "bar gold, gold coins, firearms of any kind unless manufactured prior to 1878, documents such as passports or foreign bank account records, pornography or any material that, in the opinion of the agent, shall be deemed of to be of a contraband nature."

DHS memos also state that banks are informed that any bank employee, on any level, that releases "improper" "classified DHS Security information" to any member of the public, to include the customers whose boxes have been clandestinely opened and inspected and "any other party, to include members of the media" and further "that the posting of any such information on the internet will be grounds for the immediate termination of the said employee or employees and their prosecution under the Patriot Act." Safety deposit box holders and depositors are not given advanced notice when failed banks shut their doors.

If people have their emergency money in a safe deposit box or an account in a bank that closes, they will not be allowed into the bank to get it out. They can knock on the door and beg to get in but the sheriff’s department or whoever is handling the closure will simply say “no” because they are just following orders.

Deposit box and account holders are not warned of the hazards of banking when they sign up. It is not until they need to get their cash or valuables out in a hurry that they find themselves in trouble.

Rules governing access to safe deposit boxes and money held in accounts are written into the charter of each bank. The charter is the statement of policy under which the bank is allowed by the government to do business. These rules are subject to change at any time by faceless bureaucrats who are answerable to no one. They can be changed without notice, without the agreement of the people, and against their will. People can complain but no one will care because this is small potatoes compared to the complaints that will be voiced when the executive order that governs national emergencies is enforced.

That order allows the suspension of habeas corpus and all rights guaranteed under the Bill of Rights.

A look at the fine print of the contract signed when a safety deposit box is opened reveals that in essence the signer has given to the bank whatever property he has put into that deposit box. When times are good people will be allowed open access to their safe deposit box and the property that is in it. This also applies to their bank accounts.

But when times get really bad, many may find that the funds they have placed on deposit and the property they thought was secured in the safe deposit box now belong to the bank, not to them. Although this was probably not explained to them when they signed their signature card, this is what they were agreeing to.

During the Great Depression in the early 1930’s people thought that many banks were going to fail. They were afraid they would lose their money so they went in mass to take it out, in what is known as a run on the banks. The government closed the banks to protect them from angry depositors who wanted their money back. Throughout history, governments have acted to protect the interests of banks and the wealthy people who own them, not the interests of depositors or box holders.

In a time of emergency, people will have no recourse if access to their safe deposit box and bank accounts is denied. If they are keeping money in a bank that would be needed in an emergency or in a time when credit is no longer free flowing, they may not be able to get it out of the bank. The emergency may occur at night or on a weekend or holiday when the bank is closed.

The solution is to take emergency cash or valuables out of the safe deposit box or bank account and secure them somewhere else, like in a home safe. An even better idea may be to close the safe deposit box account completely, letting someone else entertain the illusion of safety.

Americans have learned a few things since the Great Depression. They now have the FDIC to liquidate any failed banks.

The FDIC promises to set up a series of dates and times when safe deposit box renters can access their boxes by appointment to remove their property and surrender their keys. The FDIC also promises to mail bank customers an announcement of the dates for such events and include a question and answer page that addresses safe deposit box access.

The people have the FDIC to give them back the money they had on deposit that they were unable to get out of any failed bank that carries FDIC insurance. Sheila Bair, head of the FDIC, promises that depositor`s money will be available in 24 hours or less. But people should remember that the FDIC is just another bureaucracy, and it`s probably best not to rely on a bureaucracy in an emergency.

THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR STORAGE FACILITIES

DON'T PUT ANYTHING VALUABLE AND/OR NON-REPLACEABLE IN ANY BANK OR STORAGE FACILITY

Yah, Pretty soon they'll take away my frosted flakes too..,,,, If you don't trust the fdic,, why would you keep dinar at home?? gov't can search your house any time they please, and since they're monitoring your posts to this site-- I suspect they will be there any day now as they know you're a holder and can back track any on line communication... just have cookies and coffee ready and maybe they'll let you keep a few for yourself...anyways you don't trust the fdic and banking system and gov't ,,, but you're comfy with the iraqi ......whoa!!!

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Well I don't know for sure, I have searched the net and havent found this information on any credible sites. Only conspiracy sites like democratic underground and Bellaciao. They basically state the same you have stated in different language but the articles are dated 2006. I think if this were true there would be a whole lot more coverage of it by the media both above and below the board, maybe you or someone else has a real link to this information.

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Media Coverage? are you serious? the media is bought and paid for and they are not gonna highlight these kinds of atrocious things. Get real !! They are the ones spreading the whole "you can trust the Federal Govt" propaganda.

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That's nice "Big Money". I was going to take a picture of my matress and post but the one I have here in Iraq sucks!! B)B)

Totally laughing here... bet you are not the only one using that for a bank either :D When you get back home here you may want to look into the company that actually makes a safe as part of your bed frame (box springs).... its pretty incredible, high end, well made and price tag to match... the only downfall is having to completely rip apart the bed to get to it....

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Remember this is posted in the RUMOR section. If true...it has NOTHING to do with this Administration. Stop trying to place blame on our President for every negative thing that get's posted!

I am sure you're the type who thinks it's ok to blame the past president for everything the current president fails to do.

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Yah, Pretty soon they'll take away my frosted flakes too..,,,, If you don't trust the fdic,, why would you keep dinar at home?? gov't can search your house any time they please, and since they're monitoring your posts to this site-- I suspect they will be there any day now as they know you're a holder and can back track any on line communication... just have cookies and coffee ready and maybe they'll let you keep a few for yourself...anyways you don't trust the fdic and banking system and gov't ,,, but you're comfy with the iraqi ......whoa!!!

Thank You!! Finally Someone with a good sense of reality!! Nothing more to add except:

Ever think that people that rob houses for a living might not be finding enough gold and other precious items like your Dinar! So yeah take it home so Anyone can have access to it! :lol:

6 years ago when i was getting into Dinar I had a bank person where I worked tell me Dinar was not Allowed Anywhere in the US! And that it was Terrorist Money!!! :o

And you would go to jail and have everything you own seized!!! They worked in the main vault in the foreign exchange department!

So, I called the FBI and HLS and my local Police department and tolled them I was planing on investing or buying some Iraq Dinar, They all tolled me that it was now OK! (Or ever since Bush passed a bill allowing US Citizens to purchase, own, and or invest in Iraq Dinar!) I've been invested ever since and I have talked to my branch manager at B of A and he is ready and willing to exchange my Dinar yo US Dollars as soon as it RVs B of A in AZ was Selling Dinars until last year when they quit sending it out from Iraq. They are more then willing to buy dinar from anyone that wants to bail out? Heck so am I!!! :P:lol:

The bank got a memo a few weeks later and called me to explain they where sorry for the scare and that they had been informed that the new Iraq Dinar (With out Saddam's Picture on it) was perfectly legal to own and or triad!

Wolf! Wolf! the Wolf is coming Run Run!!!! :lol::blink:

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