Two separate note sizes (physical) received from Dinar Trade!!!

[dgarvey981]

Hi All,

New to the forum (posting anyway). Last month I ordered 750,000 dinar in 25k notes from Dinar Trade. Everything went smooth. And then recently I ordered 1,000,000 more dinar, again in 25k notes, and again from Dinar Trade.

The 1,000,000 arrived today and I naturally stacked it up with my original order of 750,000 when I noticed something odd, and now scary... The physical size of the notes from the first order are about 1/16th of an inch taller than the more recent order!!

I've heard nothing but good things about Dinar Trade, but something seems fishy here. I've never seen a stack of crisp USD that weren't perfectly the same size. Take a look at the pics and let me know what you think, or if this has happened to anyone else... Thanks for your input on this!!!

Pics:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/7a5c0148.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/67f0fcb8.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/f12519d0.jpg

[PhillyDinar]

Hi All,

New to the forum (posting anyway). Last month I ordered 750,000 dinar in 25k notes from Dinar Trade. Everything went smooth. And then recently I ordered 1,000,000 more dinar, again in 25k notes, and again from Dinar Trade.

The 1,000,000 arrived today and I naturally stacked it up with my original order of 750,000 when I noticed something odd, and now scary... The physical size of the notes from the first order are about 1/16th of an inch taller than the more recent order!!

I've heard nothing but good things about Dinar Trade, but something seems fishy here. I've never seen a stack of crisp USD that weren't perfectly the same size. Take a look at the pics and let me know what you think, or if this has happened to anyone else... Thanks for your input on this!!!

Pics:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/7a5c0148.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/67f0fcb8.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/f12519d0.jpg

hmm that is odd! i would say just check all you notes for there security features. and if they all contain the features then you should be ok, i would contact dinar trade with an emil with the same pics and ask them what they have to say about it.

here is link for security features: http://www.wikihow.com/Verify-the-Authenticity-of-Iraqi-Dinars

[Capital stack]

Hi All,

New to the forum (posting anyway). Last month I ordered 750,000 dinar in 25k notes from Dinar Trade. Everything went smooth. And then recently I ordered 1,000,000 more dinar, again in 25k notes, and again from Dinar Trade.

The 1,000,000 arrived today and I naturally stacked it up with my original order of 750,000 when I noticed something odd, and now scary... The physical size of the notes from the first order are about 1/16th of an inch taller than the more recent order!!

I've heard nothing but good things about Dinar Trade, but something seems fishy here. I've never seen a stack of crisp USD that weren't perfectly the same size. Take a look at the pics and let me know what you think, or if this has happened to anyone else... Thanks for your input on this!!!

Pics:

http://i115.photobuc...81/7a5c0148.jpg

http://i115.photobuc...81/67f0fcb8.jpg

http://i115.photobuc...81/f12519d0.jpg

dgarvey981,

I appreciate your post, and thanks for sharing.

I also have acquired all my Dinars from Ali, and yet, I have not ordered it separately so I don't have a different shipment of stacks to compare it with.

Have you looked at the notes in detail?

Is there any difference in the images on the notes?

Have you notified Ali yet? Perhaps, you can simply inquire about the difference in physical stack size.

I would love to see what other fellow Dinar investors come up with.

Edited January 9, 2011 by Capital stack

[jwonder]

I have ordered three shipments and they have all been the same, However you could sell them back and purchase more.

[4aprofit]

I have ordered three shipments and they have all been the same, However you could sell them back and purchase more.

The notes could have been cut somewhat offset from DeLarue when printed....I have seen some notes that had some print errors as well, which are like things that happen with U.S. currency and any other currency...especially when it is made and cut...it was just mentioned on many media forums, that many of the new 100 dollar U.S. bills were stopped from being circulated due to errors on many or most of those bills...for what it's worth...

[stillwaters]

Interesting indeed! I noticed that the 5K notes are 3/4" shorter than the 25K but that HAS to be by design right?

[caleb08]

In the last picture it looks like the dinars aren't being held even. The back set is straigth and even and the front set is uneven. Same thing with the second picture.

[parmenio]

Call Ali and let him know about your delema. Perhaps he has a resonable explination. Curious to see what he says.

Edited January 9, 2011 by parmenio

[smee2]

All bamknotes of a certain denomination leave the print shop identiacl in dimension and weighth per.

Nothing that is too short or messedup in some way is allowed to leave, it is destroyed.

what you have hear may be a packet of uncirculated notes being held up against a smaller packed of circulated notes. As notes are beinguses they crese, srinkle, become less rigit, tend to sag etc. that is the only physicla reason I can think of for the situaiton you hare.

First step is to send email with photos to the place purchased from asking for an explanation and offering to return the shorter notes for a new bath that measures up. That gives them an out right awy and not need to start haggling or pointing fingers or trying to cover anythng. Be reasonable, you don't care where these came from, you just want good ones in return, and where shall I ship these or will your courioer pick them jup when they delifery the new ones.

Period

They will take it. If they do not, you know for sure they are not all they say they are.

smee2

[dgarvey981]

In the last picture it looks like the dinars aren't being held even. The back set is straigth and even and the front set is uneven. Same thing with the second picture.

It does appear that way in the pic, but the other notes are clearly larger, even holding them in your hand you can tell. I'm a little worried. I'll email Ali and let you know his response.

[caleb08]

Good luck dgarvey981 and please let us know what Ali says.

[BadCobra]

Interesting indeed! I noticed that the 5K notes are 3/4" shorter than the 25K but that HAS to be by design right?

Yes, by design; the smaller the denomination the smaller the note is (in physical size).

[dgarvey981]

Good luck dgarvey981 and please let us know what Ali says.

Thanks guys, emailed Ali, awaiting response. Just a bit worried if nobody else has had the same problem.

[BlueOrchid919]

Just to reassure everyone about the difference is note size for the 25K dinar note. I just checked all my 25K notes and there 5 different sizes! There are different sizes for the 10K notes as well.

Every one of the safety features has been checked, including the ultra violet scan. Everything checks out just fine. Every serial number of every note I have for each denomination was entered into a spreadsheet and all numbers check out as well. No duplicate numbers.

It is possible the cutter machine might have been off a bit, or there may be more than one mint producing the IQD notes.

Pls let us know what Ali from DT says about this. I truly do not think it's anything to worry about as long as you have checked the multiple safety features of the notes you have.

[dgarvey981]

Just to reassure everyone about the difference is note size for the 25K dinar note. I just checked all my 25K notes and there 5 different sizes! There are different sizes for the 10K notes as well.

Every one of the safety features has been checked, including the ultra violet scan. Everything checks out just fine. Every serial number of every note I have for each denomination was entered into a spreadsheet and all numbers check out as well. No duplicate numbers.

It is possible the cutter machine might have been off a bit, or there may be more than one mint producing the IQD notes.

Pls let us know what Ali from DT says about this. I truly do not think it's anything to worry about as long as you have checked the multiple safety features of the notes you have.

thanks! I'll check ALL the security marks as you have. Just seems shady that IQDs can't be produced consistently?? You say you have 5 different sizes....all DT dinar are supposed to be uncirculated so it's not like theyve been beat up, they're crisp bills. I dare anyone to find two crisp USD bills that arent precisely the same size.

[BlueOrchid919]

thanks! I'll check ALL the security marks as you have. Just seems shady that IQDs can't be produced consistently?? You say you have 5 different sizes....all DT dinar are supposed to be uncirculated so it's not like theyve been beat up, they're crisp bills. I dare anyone to find two crisp USD bills that arent precisely the same size.

As far as I know, the IQD is printed in England and possibly one other country. I was pretty astonished that the notes could have such variance in their sizes... very small, but definitely some difference. All my notes are uncirculated and are certified by reputable sellers. I'll see what my next order looks like.

[dgarvey981]

Hi all, check out the email thread between me and Ali below...... Not much of an explanation.... :(

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De LA rue prints the notes for the CBI we have checked it on the De LA Ru machine they are 100% real dinar notes.

Thanks

Ali

Dinar Trade Inc

www.dinartrade.com

Tel:877 770 7660

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Order issue...

From: Darren Garvey <>

Date: Sun, January 09, 2011 11:16 am

To: Dinar Trade <sales@dinartrade.com>

Hi Ali,

I ordered two separate quantities of Dinar from you in two separate orders. The second order came in yesterday and notes are noticeably taller than the notes from the first order. Can you explain please? See the attached pictures.

Thanks,

Darren

[prettybaby]

Hi All,

New to the forum (posting anyway). Last month I ordered 750,000 dinar in 25k notes from Dinar Trade. Everything went smooth. And then recently I ordered 1,000,000 more dinar, again in 25k notes, and again from Dinar Trade.

The 1,000,000 arrived today and I naturally stacked it up with my original order of 750,000 when I noticed something odd, and now scary... The physical size of the notes from the first order are about 1/16th of an inch taller than the more recent order!!

I've heard nothing but good things about Dinar Trade, but something seems fishy here. I've never seen a stack of crisp USD that weren't perfectly the same size. Take a look at the pics and let me know what you think, or if this has happened to anyone else... Thanks for your input on this!!!

Pics:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/7a5c0148.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/67f0fcb8.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/f12519d0.jpg

Uh oh! Please keep us posted as to what Dinar Trade says.

[82Corp.]

Hi All,

New to the forum (posting anyway). Last month I ordered 750,000 dinar in 25k notes from Dinar Trade. Everything went smooth. And then recently I ordered 1,000,000 more dinar, again in 25k notes, and again from Dinar Trade.

The 1,000,000 arrived today and I naturally stacked it up with my original order of 750,000 when I noticed something odd, and now scary... The physical size of the notes from the first order are about 1/16th of an inch taller than the more recent order!!

I've heard nothing but good things about Dinar Trade, but something seems fishy here. I've never seen a stack of crisp USD that weren't perfectly the same size. Take a look at the pics and let me know what you think, or if this has happened to anyone else... Thanks for your input on this!!!

Pics:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/7a5c0148.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/67f0fcb8.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/dgarvey981/f12519d0.jpg

This is very strange I helped a friend purchase his dinar and I noticed the same thing. The edges of the bills looked like they were cut with a dull paper cutter. At first the serial number looked the same until we used a magnifying glass, you could see the difference between the Arabic numbers 2 a 3. Not sure if this helps.

[Jim1cor13]

This is very strange I helped a friend purchase his dinar and I noticed the same thing. The edges of the bills looked like they were cut with a dull paper cutter. At first the serial number looked the same until we used a magnifying glass, you could see the difference between the Arabic numbers 2 a 3. Not sure if this helps.

Please be very cautious about all of these matters. I worry that

something is going wrong, and dinartrade or any other dealer is not

immune from facing more problems as demand continues to grow.

If the feeding frenzy does not soon stabilize, expect more problems that

Ali or others just may not be able to explain. This is not saying something

deceptive is going on, but clearly there are problems showing up as demand

becomes almost intolerable.

So keep a close eye on what you receive. There is a chance that 'some' dealers

may try and deceive as they get desperate. and my hope is that Ali is not one of them.

Each note is different size, but it is no answer to say "De La Rue" makes the bills for CBI

(true) and they are genuine. I am not doubting this, but oddities in the bills do not offer

comfort in these matters, as this deficiency has not been seen until recently, and yet it may be

nothing more than a "bad" batch? One must ask themselves, would this have ANY chance of

causing a problem during cash in? Only guys like Ali can say and I hope it does not happen like that.

Just be cautious and careful. I am certian we will soon see more "oddities" occurring and this may not

be a good thing.

All my best!

Jim

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[RealTime]

I just rec'd dinar with Alfred E Neuman's likeness. Is this normal?

[Metrious]

Hi all, check out the email thread between me and Ali below...... Not much of an explanation.... :(

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De LA rue prints the notes for the CBI we have checked it on the De LA Ru machine they are 100% real dinar notes.

Thanks

Ali

Dinar Trade Inc

www.dinartrade.com

Tel:877 770 7660

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Order issue...

From: Darren Garvey <>

Date: Sun, January 09, 2011 11:16 am

To: Dinar Trade <sales@dinartrade.com>

Hi Ali,

I ordered two separate quantities of Dinar from you in two separate orders. The second order came in yesterday and notes are noticeably taller than the notes from the first order. Can you explain please? See the attached pictures.

Thanks,

Darren

At least you have this email from Ali so if you do have any issues with trade in you can produce this email trail and they should at that point, still cash you in. That is my just my unqualified opinion. Thanks fof the Heads up Darren.