Sander post 01-08-11

[BANE]

Since this is the first Word for the Week of 2011, and we are studying how to know God’s voice and the prophetic gifts that He has given to His church, I want to begin by sharing what may be one of the most prolific messages God’s people have been receiving. The question I may be asked more than any other is what 11-11 means. Whether seeing it repeatedly on their clocks or in other ways, many people have been receiving this for years. New Year’s Day was 1/1/11 or 11-11. This usually speaks of a second chance, which is the message of Isaiah 11:11 because it is here that God promises to restore Israel to their land a second time.

When Isaiah received this message, Israel had not even been scattered from the land and re-gathered the first time. When Jesus was asked about the signs of the end of the age, one of the things He said was that we should consider the fig tree, which is a symbol for Israel. Israel is one of the bold prophetic messages that prophets watch and consider. Israel is a barometer of mankind. It is in a perpetual state of conflict, both within and without. This has lasted for so long and they have desired peace so much that they have even been willing to give up large parts of their tiny bit of land in the hope of achieving peace. However, instead of leading to peace, the land they surrendered has become a base for attacking them. Their peace will never come from man, but only from God. The good news is that it will come from God, which is the most basic message of Isaiah 11.

Peace will never come by giving away what God assigned to us, but rather by esteeming everything He has given to us even more than peace with men and by seeing His purpose as even more valuable than life. It is time for Israel to be grafted back into the Tree—God Himself. It is a beginning to be re-gathered to the land, but it is more important to be re-gathered to the Lord.

Israel is a sign of God’s faithfulness to His Word. In Jeremiah 31, the Lord states that the order of the sun, moon, and the roaring of the sea would cease before His promises for Israel would fail. Many believe that these are now fulfilled in the church, “spiritual Israel.” This is true of many of them, but this does not negate that they are also for “natural Israel.” The Lord makes it clear in His Word in a number of places that these are for the physical seed of Abraham. The Apostle Paul also asserted this in his most important Epistle on New Covenant theology, the Book of Romans, as we read in chapters nine through eleven. As we are warned in this text, it is a big mistake to “become arrogant toward the natural branches” (see Romans 11:18).

The main message of the re-gathered nation of Israel is that God is faithful to His Word. He remains faithful even if we are unfaithful, and in His faithfulness He will give us another chance. The whole chapter of Isaiah11 is about the restoration of the earth to the paradise it was originally created to be, a second chance for the whole earth—the re-gathering of Israel “the second time” is a sign that this is near. The kingdom of God that God’s people have been praying for since Jesus walked the earth is near.

This is a year for recovering what has been lost, for many promises to come to pass, and for the backsliders to be brought back. This begins with prayer, intercession, and often fasting. When Daniel read in the prophecy of Jeremiah that Israel was to be scattered from the land the first time for seventy years, he did not just start rejoicing that it was time to return, but he started fasting and praying for God’s Word to be fulfilled.

Why do the promises of God need intercession to be fulfilled? As we are told in Psalm 115:16, “The heavens are the heavens of the Lord, but the earth He has given to the sons of men.” The Lord delegated authority over the earth to men, which is why He will not do things on the earth until we ask Him to. This is also why Jesus became a Man to become the Mediator, and while on earth, He always referred to Himself as the Son of man. He was the Son of God too, but He came here to be a Man to recover what man had lost.

Therefore, when we know it is time for the promises of God to be fulfilled, we need to engage heaven with prayer and fasting, being intercessors in unity with Jesus who we are told “ever lives to intercede” (see Hebrews 7:25). He is a Priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek, and we are priests in the same order. For this reason, one of the primary messages and works among His people will be to restore the priesthood to which we are all called.

[erhouse]

Excuse me, but I thought this is a investment, not a church sermon.

[jerry]

erhouse-ur not excused

[keepmwlknfny]

Why the heck do people wanna bring religion into this?? This investment has NOTHING to do with religion.......but these people will sit down and write paragraph after paragraph about Jesus and scriptures just because they know so many people who heard about the dinar, did through church or something so they feel its the best way to get people just to listen to them and follow them....its really getting annoying.....

[NotReallyTex]

Excuse me, but I thought this is a investment, not a church sermon.

Good thing I lost my voice

Why the heck do people wanna bring religion into this?? This investment has NOTHING to do with religion.......but these people will sit down and write paragraph after paragraph about Jesus and scriptures just because they know so many people who heard about the dinar, did through church or something so they feel its the best way to get people just to listen to them and follow them....its really getting annoying.....

U 2 young man

[beefcake]

Dinar Vets has a sister site specifically for the religious

[NotReallyTex]

Why do some feel the need to preach? Probably why some of you feel the need to lecture the preachers and sermon givers. It's just free expression, a right our soldiers are fighting for.

Nope, preaching Christianity isn't something I do or really like to see but then I don't like to read the same ole false predictions and lies I see posted here all the time too. I really feel bad for the newbies who come here and read the pumpers shat.

If it came down to it, I would really much rather have a newbie reach a preachy post then some outright lie that might make them buy more than dinar than they can afford.

I see some post that are outright lies but I don't go blasting the poster and telling them to hush, it's not my job or right to rule others and their rights to free speech.

OK done ranting... I''l go

[cenlalsufan]

Dinar Vets has a sister site specifically for the religious

what is it...or link??

[joe liberst]

what is it...or link??

Try googling keep the faith missions, it is where the wack job Frank posts......

[keepmwlknfny]

I DONT THINK HE WANTS YOU TO FOLLOW HIM, BUT THE ONE WHO MADE YOU, DIED FOR YOU, AND LOVES YOU, JESUS THAT IS WHO

blah blah blah blah blah....please save it....this is why there is a site dedicated for those who want to talk about religion in dinar all day.....because all your doing is offending people.....

[splicer09]

Any word of love,peace,and prosperity is all welcome in my book. No this isn't a religous site but many of us are sure to prosper soon and where does this prosperity come from? Hmmmm. God bless you all in this venture...especially those that don't realize the magnitude and are surely going to be broke in just a few years. Thank you Bane for sharing this post and This I would like to add sinse it has the same directive. THE EARTH IS FULL OF THE GOODNESS OF THE LORD. .... PSALMS 33:5. Sharing goodness should not be worthy of bashing but instead should be praised. AMEN BANE!!

[Soldiering4U]

I don't know but this is a thought, just like if you don't like TK or the GET team DON'T FREAKING READ THEM!!! If you are "offended" by God... you guessed it DON'T FREAKING READ ABOUT HIM!!! in the first couple of lines I could tell that this was going to be a religious post... not knocking the poster... I then had a "CHOICE" I could read or I could click What's New... I didn't have to read it...

And now on to you keepmwlknfny, nobody cares about your feelings we just care that we have to read you crying every time you read anything that even resembles having to do with something you don't agree with... guess what nobody cares...

[trishberg]

what is it...or link??

http://newdinarchat.com/

[keepmwlknfny]

And now on to you keepmwlknfny, nobody cares about your feelings we just care that we have to read you crying every time you read anything that even resembles having to do with something you don't agree with... guess what nobody cares...

Its not just me turdburglar.....many people dont wanna see or hear that crap in these forums.....thats why another site was set up.......its like making posts about sports in a homecooking forum......it doesnt belong.....there is so many other things flooding the forums that is relevant to this investment.....this isent.......people come here to read about the dinar.....not scriptures from the bible....thats what people go to church for......dont get mad because I voice my opinion on the matter which this gets hashed out over and over......it will be ok I promise.....you can go back into the shadows now......this issue bothers many people on this site......

[beefcake]

what is it...or link??

I don't remember ask a mod

[commonsence]

Dinar Vets has a sister site specifically for the religious

Guess I'll go there, the mood here has always been full of self and Greed....oh and thank you for being PC......that is tolarant of other peoples views unless you disagree so now give me a minus and go on with your loving of all men.

Its not just me turdburglar.....many people dont wanna see or hear that crap in these forums.....thats why another site was set up.......its like making posts about sports in a homecooking forum......it doesnt belong.....there is so many other things flooding the forums that is relevant to this investment.....this isent.......people come here to read about the dinar.....not scriptures from the bible....thats what people go to church for......dont get mad because I voice my opinion on the matter which this gets hashed out over and over......it will be ok I promise.....you can go back into the shadows now......this issue bothers many people on this site......

You get your view but others do not???????????? Must be your right and they are not.......thought we lived in a tolarant country, maybe Iraq is better based on what I see on this site.

[NotReallyTex]

http://newdinarchat.com/

Thanks. I just went there to check it out. Honestly it's not my thing but I was curious. I can see why no one really wants to post there though. It is very slow compared to this site and IMO not as easy to navigate. or maybe too easy since there isn't near as much information. But I can totally see why everyone comes here. This is the happening place to be.

Keepmwlknfny I know this sort of stuff bothers a lot of people but then a lot of people like it too. I don't see any real solutions happening anytime too either.

I still think if they had a religious section HERE it might help things for all. I know I am busy enough with life that I don't have time for 2 totally separate forums. JMHO

[commonsence]

blah blah blah blah blah....please save it....this is why there is a site dedicated for those who want to talk about religion in dinar all day.....because all your doing is offending people.....

And if I am offended by your opinions does that make me as mean spirited as you or just plane intolarant and aggorant

[NotReallyTex]

Actually just had a thought about this whole post. Some complain that rumors and news should be for dinar talk. I guess I can understand that up to a point but this IS the " Opinions, Perspectives, and Your Two Cents on the Iraqi Dinar " section.

I really think if someone wants to base their investment on their religious beliefs then who is anyone to deny them that right?

THAT is their OPINION

[keepmwlknfny]

You get your view but others do not???????????? Must be your right and they are not.......thought we lived in a tolarant country, maybe Iraq is better based on what I see on this site.

yep! thats EXACTLY what I said......

[Soldiering4U]

You get your view but others do not???????????? Must be your right and they are not.......thought we lived in a tolarant country, maybe Iraq is better based on what I see on this site.

There is no tolerance just unspoken thoughts filled in with political correctness.

[DrDinar]

Every time some posts a religious comment, it just sets off others. Perhaps we should keep the preaching to Sunday in church. If you believe God found this, fantastic...go write your point of view somewhere else. People on this forum want some insight and information on the dinar, not enlightenment by a wannabe. If you believe God brought you into this, then perhaps you should be praying to him rather than writing a sermon on this board.

[keepmwlknfny]

And if I am offended by your opinions does that make me as mean spirited as you or just plane intolarant and aggorant

No, if your offended then your offended and you can voice your opinion....which is what this forum is for!! YAY!!! The point is that religion doesnt belong in THIS forum....there is another site made especially for it because this has been such a big issue in the past...if you wanna base everything off religion then thats great and there is a place especially for you!

[Bumper64]

Ok, lets stop or this will go on all night!!!

To me everyone has the right to voice their believes in God and just because it might not match what some believe does not make it right or wrong to post.

This is one reason why Adam started a sister site were people can talk about God and this Dinar investment without having to argue about it.

For those that were asking for the sister site: http://newdinarchat.com/

Lets all try to get along!!

Thanks

Bump

[TechOps]

No, if your offended then your offended and you can voice your opinion....which is what this forum is for!! YAY!!! The point is that religion doesnt belong in THIS forum....there is another site made especially for it because this has been such a big issue in the past...if you wanna base everything off religion then thats great and there is a place especially for you!

Can you prove that religion doesn't belong in this forum..... Do you own this forum....