ishihara Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 OK, we have all been reading the postings over the last few days. The newest posts as of 11:30 am EST 12/13/10 say M will form his government later this week (Thursday or Saturday). Well, that is great, but, with the UN meeting to approve Chapter 7 removal, DFI, etc. I thought the GOI had to be at least seated for a positive outcome of these votes. Not to mention a RV. Please, tell me why I am wrong to now assume that the UN votes will be put off until a later date when Iraq can comply with what they are to do, to uphold their end of the UN stipulations for removal from Chapter 7, DFI etc. Otherwise, why have the UN meeting? Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldiering4U Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Do you have a LINK PLEASE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishihara Posted December 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Link for what? this is just a question to the membership that I am trying to understand the answer too. Unless you mean spy's post: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http://www.ikhnews.com/news.php%3Faction%3Dview%26id%3D5504&prev=/language_tools&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behaviorkat Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 I agree this is not making any sense........ so we may have to look for more information comming out, to fit the puzzle together or maybe a better news source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost one Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 OK, we have all been reading the postings over the last few days. The newest posts as of 11:30 am EST 12/13/10 say M will form his government later this week (Thursday or Saturday). Well, that is great, but, with the UN meeting to approve Chapter 7 removal, DFI, etc. I thought the GOI had to be at least seated for a positive outcome of these votes. Not to mention a RV. Please, tell me why I am wrong to now assume that the UN votes will be put off until a later date when Iraq can comply with what they are to do, to uphold their end of the UN stipulations for removal from Chapter 7, DFI etc. Otherwise, why have the UN meeting? Thanks for your help. I said the same thing, nothing makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heli Pilot Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 I've been wondering the same thing. I am just hopeful that there is more going on behind the scenes that will allow this to work out in our favor and soon. I thought for sure the GOI would be seated prior to the UNSC meeting on the 15th. Now I just hope that the UNSC realizes the seating of the GOI is close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drez Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Great question, I think that we are all just hoping that everything is set to go for Wednesday. If they have everything in place and just don't announce it to the world before Wednesday I think that we'll be okay. If they are still fighting over positions then we may be waiting a while for them to meet again to release them out of Chapter 7. I personally just don't see Biden setting up this vote without the strong possibility of them being released. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upgradable Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 But if the official announcement hasn't been made, wouldn't there be concern that Iraq would "pull a fast one" and change things? After all, removal of Chapter 7 is pivotal, and I can't see the UN just saying, "Okay. We trust that they'll fulfill the terms." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctoddy Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Some are saying that in order to be released from Chap 7 they HAVE to RV. They also say that they have to have a GOI before they can RV. Others say that in the release of Chap 7 is just a formality at this point. It's basically decided they will be released, Biden would haul his hinney to Iraq and not get this done. So let's think this through. Unless they announce a GOI tomorrow and then RV tomorrow the meeting on the 15th is a waste? If those things have to happen then why wouldn't you have it done before they have the meeting in your freaking country. I know the vote for release is like the 18th, but still. I'm expecting BIG things tomorrow or no things. I'm with Adam that it won't happen until sometime in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoRgiVeN OnE Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 I can't help but think they are sitting on this. I have this nagging in the back of my head telling me that they have everything lined up and ready to go, but they are just taking their time exposing it. I really feel that something will be done before this meeting and until this meeting gets postponed or canceled, I think we are right on track. Something has to give sooner or later. This is starting to llok like a great cover up for what is really happening. Time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upgradable Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 I can't help but think they are sitting on this. I have this nagging in the back of my head telling me that they have everything lined up and ready to go, but they are just taking their time exposing it. I really feel that something will be done before this meeting and until this meeting gets postponed or canceled, I think we are right on track. Something has to give sooner or later. This is starting to llok like a great cover up for what is really happening. Time will tell. From your lips......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo9678 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Well, we've got roughly 40 hours between now and the time that the UNSC is scheduled to meet in NYC. So let's look at all the possible things that could happen between now and then... 1. IQD RVs and the UNSC approves the removal of Chap VII and life is good. 2. IQD does NOT RV and the USNC approves the removal of Chap VII from Iraq. I think this would be bad considering that the value of the dinar is one of the last big carrots that we have to motivate Iraq with. 3. IQD does NOT RV and the USNC does NOT lift the Chap VII. I think this would put the most pressure on the GOI as it shows that the UN, IMF, WTO, and everyone else is not playing with Iraq anymore and will do what they must. 4. IQD does RV and the UNSC does NOT lift the Chap VII. Personally, I think this would be entirely too damned funny and a bit of poetic justice. I suppose that's just the bastard in me being frustrated with Iraq's incompetence and apparent lack of concern by the GOI for it's citizens. IMHO but the reality of the matter is that none of us really know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upgradable Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Well, we've got roughly 40 hours between now and the time that the UNSC is scheduled to meet in NYC. So let's look at all the possible things that could happen between now and then... 1. IQD RVs and the UNSC approves the removal of Chap VII and life is good. 2. IQD does NOT RV and the USNC approves the removal of Chap VII from Iraq. I think this would be bad considering that the value of the dinar is one of the last big carrots that we have to motivate Iraq with. 3. IQD does NOT RV and the USNC does NOT lift the Chap VII. I think this would put the most pressure on the GOI as it shows that the UN, IMF, WTO, and everyone else is not playing with Iraq anymore and will do what they must. 4. IQD does RV and the UNSC does NOT lift the Chap VII. Personally, I think this would be entirely too damned funny and a bit of poetic justice. I suppose that's just the bastard in me being frustrated with Iraq's incompetence and apparent lack of concern by the GOI for it's citizens. IMHO but the reality of the matter is that none of us really know... Well, I vote for #1, but #3 gets Miss Congeniality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jte70 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Well, we've got roughly 40 hours between now and the time that the UNSC is scheduled to meet in NYC. So let's look at all the possible things that could happen between now and then... 1. IQD RVs and the UNSC approves the removal of Chap VII and life is good. 2. IQD does NOT RV and the USNC approves the removal of Chap VII from Iraq. I think this would be bad considering that the value of the dinar is one of the last big carrots that we have to motivate Iraq with. 3. IQD does NOT RV and the USNC does NOT lift the Chap VII. I think this would put the most pressure on the GOI as it shows that the UN, IMF, WTO, and everyone else is not playing with Iraq anymore and will do what they must. 4. IQD does RV and the UNSC does NOT lift the Chap VII. Personally, I think this would be entirely too damned funny and a bit of poetic justice. I suppose that's just the bastard in me being frustrated with Iraq's incompetence and apparent lack of concern by the GOI for it's citizens. IMHO but the reality of the matter is that none of us really know... I'd hate to see #3 happen but it sounds feasible. My question is, how is Iraq going to back up an RV at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upgradable Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2010/11/29/big-increase-in-iraqs-foreign-currency-reserves/ Would this address the problem? I'm just wondering because this whole thing is new to me, and I'm trying to orient it all in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnfagan Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 So..let's take Wed. the 15th for what it will be. A formality with palm pressing and dealings for the future. No release of Chap VII and no RV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jte70 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2010/11/29/big-increase-in-iraqs-foreign-currency-reserves/ Would this address the problem? I'm just wondering because this whole thing is new to me, and I'm trying to orient it all in my mind. Looks that way. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-In-4-RV Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Hey 'Forgiven' ... I also think the whole lot of them (everyone involved in this RV plan), are sitting on the truth and it'll all be 'out of the bag' by Thursday!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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