I Know I Am Going To Be Banned: That's Just Fine

[RichNick123]

This will probably be my last post so I might as well go out in flames!!

Let me start by saying this is not about DinarVets or Adam, both of whom I am greatly appreciative. I believe DinarVets is the absolute best site for following anything Dinar on the web, and Adam is a man with character and integrity.

I believe those with true insider information have received intel to the absolute rate, and a quasi secure date, for the RV of the Iraqi Dinar. I believe we are within a target range of end of the Muslim and Iraqi holiday on the 21st of this month, or a maximum of 90 days from today.

For months I have been a proponent of a rate of .86, at a minimum, and 1.50 at a maximum. this has been based upon my personal research and quantification of all possible scenarios from a fiscal standpoint. I have reason to believe it may possibly come in lower than this at around the regional Mideastern level of surrounding nations at .27.

My reasoning behind this is as follows:

1. One of the popular sites, which I will not name, has added a text service at $9.95 per month to be alerted when the RV occurs. If this site owner who has claimed to have many connections thought the actual RV was at the rate claimed by close friends and associates there would be no actual reason to charge for this service. You do realize that there is a "split" of the commission to the service and the client? Why the need to make more money if you know you are going to be realizing a huge windfall in the near future?

2. The recent absence of those that are usually reliable sources for Dinar information. No slam on any individual, but it has been like a funeral home in all of the chats and posts for the last several days. I know without a doubt that anyone who has true intel will know several days, if not weeks, before the RV will actually occur. People talk and that is a fact of life. I think we are closer than we know and those who have supported large RV totals are keeping their head down. Now, anyone should be practically orgasmic for a RV of .27, considering your initial investment on 1 million Dinar will see a quarter of million dollar return, but this is not your regular 401K, insurance investment or once in a lifetime stock market tip. This is a once in a millenium, real life, war torn country miracle in the making.

3. Everything that we know needed to happen is occuring as you read this:

A. Government is formed. It has been for several day's and we are receiving information as much as 72-96 hours behind. do you really think President Obama just called Maliki today to congradulate him on his reelection?Tthe actual reports lead us to understand this call was several day's ago. The conversation about lifting chapter 7 is not today's news it is already happening, why else was Shabibi in New York over the weekend while we were biting our nails about the seating of the government?

B. There are too many people in the IMF, UN, US GOV, Iraqi GOI, Treasury Dept and the banking industry who would have to be alerted of a RV for it to not be talked about on some level. The word is out! It has already been decided and is just playing itself out. Rumors abound as word leaks out. Granted we do not have all the truth but we have enough to know that it is on the way!

C. Adam, whom I respect and hold in high esteem, would not have put his books on a 80% discount unless he knew the timeframe to make a increased profit was not drawing to a close. I would have done the same thing if I had a chance. Let's be honest and understand that this is like someone being drafted into the NFL, I have the opportunity to be close to over a dozen former and current NFL players, they know the average career is 3.5 years and you need to make as much as you can to sustain you and your family for several decades. This is what I see happening at most, if not all the sites that promote Dinar, Adam is not included as he is wise enough to be working on post RV opportunities! Kudos to you Mr. Montana as you are again steps ahead of the competition and I will be following you with many other loyal compatriots.

D. President Obama is now on record as congratulating Maliki as the PM, absolutely no way this would happen if it were not already official, so we know the GOI is set.. Obama is also now on record discussing the release of Chapter 7 for Iraq.

E. The request by Iraq for a continued 12 month period under the IMF gives Iraq enough time to recover the multiple billion's of dollars of money, investments, gold and items of intrinsic value that will add to their nations wealth.

F. The delayed payments of Government workers is a key element. If they were not assured they would be compensated properly there would be rioting instead of celebrating in the streets of Iraq.

G. The installment of ATM's across Iraq would and could not be possible unless there were a lowering of denominations and an increase of value. Remember ATM;s can only hold a limited amount of currency and would be cost negative if the Dinar retaind it's current value.

I could continue for a fortnight with reasons why the RV is done and we have just not been alerted yet. Forex will not show a change until all of the pieces are lined up. when it does I am now claiming and declaring a new valuation:

THE IRAQI DINAR WILL REVALUE AT .27 WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE TIMEFRAME OR NO LONGER THAN THE NEXT 90 DAYS.

My reasoning behind this is that Iraq will claim they have several trillion dollars of Dinar that they are exposed to at this time. The IMF, UN and others will agree. Iraq will re-purchase the outstanding Dinar from foreign investors like ourselves who will gladly rid ourselves of the agony we have been through for the last several years and rejoice in our new found blessing. Weeks later Iraq will announce it has it's currency under control with a limited float of around 25 billion Dinar and the price will increase to that equal to either the Euro or the USD.

Argue with my thesis if you will. I pray I am wrong. I however see the handwriting on the wall. People talk, word is out, it is all coming down the pike. Many of us will settle for much less than we deserve. We will get our RV and it will be a blessing although not nearly as much as it could have been if world leaders and politicians had not had their hand in the till. Count it all joy and thank God for our blessing.

Once again I would like to thank Adam Montana and the entire DinarVets community for their dilligence, honesty and dedication to this investment we have chosen to be a part of. May God be with us all as the future unfolds.

RichNick123

[BANE]

Nah....I ain't cashin in at no .27 cents! Believe me. I got a great career! I'll wait till I get my three dollars. The rest of you can cash out but I won't. I have too little to be satisfied with twenty seven cents.

Also, I don't think you'd be banned for this. You didn't do anything wrong.

[RVDinar4MyFamily]

I may not agree with your rate, but I liked the rest of your post and makes alot of sense. I too do not see any reason why you would get banned for this post. +1

[Pexring]

Not sure why you think you'd be banned for simply sharing your thesis. Since the RV didn't happen before Nov 2, I believe it'll be a year or two or more, IF it ever happens. All I know is that I don't spend near the time on dinar sites that I use too. A simple 5-minute scan every other day will tell a person all they need to know to stay on top of things.

[icutiewatcher]

Nick, you have such a great mind, but there's no way you really can figure this out... It's a moving target. You may be right and .27 is cool... I'd take it with a smile. You won't be banned.... You're just speculating like most of us here. You just put way more time and energy into it than most of us here and I, for one, greatly appreciate it. Right or wrong, thanks for the post. Really well thought out as usual.

[fatbob]

Why would you get banned for giving your opinion? I hope it's a little higher than 27 cents though.

[Rhinestone Cowboy]

That is an ABOSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE thesis and makes 100% perfect sense to me. I'll be blessed and ecstatic at .27 if that is what it comes out at. Your points are very well thought out and I commend you for your time and effort in expressing your opinion.

[Tinker_Bell]

Thanks for the post! Hoping for a higher rate, but will be thankful for any return on our investment!

[Joe P]

My goodness Rich...

Why would you think you would get banned? I for one have many complaints about our fearless leader being oddily absent at this very important time. Believe me when I say that is an issue we all should scream about, especially as paid VIP members. We aren't waiting for 'after' the RV to learn about what deals were made for "us". I have to make plans NOW. As for post RV investment opportunities, I look forward to evaluating those.

As for your comments, they were very respectful and didn't slam anyone in particular. So you're good buddy.

Here are two reasons why I disagree with your declaration of rate.

1. The reason the rate is low with United Arab Emerits (sp...sorry), Saudi Arabia, and Qatar is because they pay their citizens a very healthy annual payment for their national GDP asset. Bahrain, Kuwait, Omar and others do not. Those countries' wealth is defined by their international trade value. The lowered valued countries perfer to recoup their wealth by sharing their income so to elevate each citizen's independent wealth.

So comparing any of their rates in the basket is unfair. You have to have mini groups inside that basket to determine why their currencies differ.

2. One of their clearly stated goals of Iraq is to de-dollarize Iraq. If their Dinar is of lower value than the dollar, there is no way the citizens will use the Dinar. They will use the currency of higher value. Period. Hence, in order to achieve the internal use and increased pride of the Dinar, it must be at least a penny higher than the dollar. Otherwise, they will use the Kuwaiti Dinar, Bahrain Dinar, US Dollar, or any other currency available that is worth more than theirs.

Rich...hang with us friend. We are at the end of the bumpy road. We will celebrate with a cold one in Atlantis. All will be very good.

[BOOBOODOG]

Adam has been saying .10 so I guess we should ban him too.

[tampa1000]

Who knows??? You could be right!!! But i think it will be much higher, GO RV!!!!!!!!!

[rwharnden]

Thanks Rich! Your thoughts are shared; after all many of Iraq's neighbors share a similar currency value that you brought up!

[jks9779]

RIch, this is seriously some ingenious thinking and makes a lot of sense. Of course, I hope this isn't the case, but again, it makes a lot of sense.

I'm with you, Bane. I'm not giving up my dinar for .27 cents. Not gonna happen. I'm in this for the long haul.

[Roscoboy007]

When I started this I hoped for .50 which wold return $500,000 for my $1000 investment....not too shabby.....the .27 is a bit light but to cash in 1m for $270,000 is still not bad for the $1000 initial investment...and hold the rest....Too many people have been pumped up on this $2 ,$3, and $4 RV and the greed has taken them over....One person said I will wait for my $3 - well $3 may never come....don;t let the hope's of millions cloud your judgement.....if the RV comes in low and you do nothing and the country goes back into a civil war you may end up with monopoly money......think wisely....

[Joe P]

RIch, this is seriously some ingenious thinking and makes a lot of sense. Of course, I hope this isn't the case, but again, it makes a lot of sense.

I'm with you, Bane. I'm not giving up my dinar for .27 cents. Not gonna happen. I'm in this for the long haul.

You guys just don't get it. It's not something you can wait out. However, you can still accomplish your stated goal by being smart.

Your strategy should be to sell all and rebuy on Forex because there will be a time frame to turn in all large bills. And, if you think for a moment that they can't simply state all large bills are void, you'll be in trouble.

So, cash in at 27 cents...buy back on Forex and sit on it for at least 3 more years.

However, it won't come out at 27 cents. It will be over a dollar, maybe not by much, but it will be over a dollar.

[VET.E.M.T.]

Either way tis all a scam, even when it does RV, and we get our momentary reward there are underlying factors to screw the American people over one way or another N.W.O in the house! just sayin. Good post though

[thompson25]

I'm just a noob so I don't pretend to know a whole lot but I can say with 100% certainty that this was nice post. Very clear and well presented, with a nice mix of opinion and fact. People will disagree on your rate because 0.27 isn't what they want to hear. Truth be told people can make reasons for the rate to be in the 2-3.50 range and people such as yourself can present reasons for a lower rate. Nobody really knows what the rate will be but one thing the majority of us can agree on is that this WILL happen.

Just a question. Why would you think you'll be banned for this post?

[VET.E.M.T.]

Really youre givin me negatives!

[RichNick123]

Thanks guy's. I guess I am a little nervous about rocking the boat that everyone seems to be on about a higher rate.

Reading the tea leaves and watching responses of those who have "sources" has left me a little skiddish. I am also factoring into my opinion the current world economy, geopolitical situations as well as the recent push for a basket approach to regional and global valuation.

I have no doubt Iraq can sustain a $3.00 RV. My question is will the rest of the world allow it?

I also do not get the "warm fuzzies" about Adam's responses, or lack thereof, to current rate options. I have agreed with him for over 2 years, although I did not join here until a couple of month's ago, that the rate would be around .86. I have to believe with the research he has done and the contacts he has that he is light years ahead of us mere mortals. When he cut the rate of his book by 80% I felt that was a road sign that he had been alerted to the RV happening soon. DD may be out there a bit but who in their right mind would have members sign up for an RV alert at $9.95 a month if they did not have some info it was happening within the next 90-120 days? You can't keep people hanging but so long before they drop off completely.

My last reason is I do not trust Iraq, the CBI, IMF, UN or the world marketmakers. Like it or not they know they are going to have to pay something to the current Dinar holders but we will never see the rate the insiders will enjoy. I have re-evaluated my former position and think they will try to get off cheap and open the RV at a rate equal to that of the 6 surrounding nations, Kuwait excluded. they know very well that 90% of investors will cash out and celebrate. Those not in a rush or in a position of need will exchange to smaller denominations and hold on. From personal experience I know that more than 90% of current investors will take the easy money and run.

It's all good. My reason for stating I might be banned is my stating that site owners who have either by work or default have gained reliable sources know more than us on the outside. Watching their moves and positioning tells me they know it is on the doorstep and might not be as much as many of the rumors floating around on their forums. This is not a negative but in my experience you never know how someone is going to react.

I hope I am totally wrong and have to come back and apoligize a million times over!!

Praying for us all to have everything we have been believing for and more!

[prosperityclub]

RichNick123, that's a very well thought out post!! You're not going to be banned for your opinion, and this is not your last post, because you're too valuable an asset to DV!!

[J.C.]

I think the biggest single reason it will NOT come in anywhere near that low, is because once the RV happens, and word gets out to the speculators who know true value, they will jump in with the big dollars and buy up all the available Dinars, causing an over-inflation of the Dinar. Forget about the oil, natural gas and gold that Iraq has. They have signed hundreds of billions of dollars in pending contracts that will be nearly worthless with an RV that low. Great points, solid detail but in the end, it's just not nearly high enough.

[Dinar Team]

Hmmm... 0.27too low but I'll take it.

Edited November 16, 2010 by Dinar Team

[Bumper64]

Rich

Not sure why you thought you would get banned for this post!

I thought it was pretty good myself!!

I might not agree 100% with everything but it was still a good post!!

Bump

[jopy]

My goodness Rich...

Why would you think you would get banned? I for one have many complaints about our fearless leader being oddily absent at this very important time. Believe me when I say that is an issue we all should scream about, especially as paid VIP members. We aren't waiting for 'after' the RV to learn about what deals were made for "us". I have to make plans NOW. As for post RV investment opportunities, I look forward to evaluating those.

As for your comments, they were very respectful and didn't slam anyone in particular. So you're good buddy.

Here are two reasons why I disagree with your declaration of rate.

1. The reason the rate is low with United Arab Emerits (sp...sorry), Saudi Arabia, and Qatar is because they pay their citizens a very healthy annual payment for their national GDP asset. Bahrain, Kuwait, Omar and others do not. Those countries' wealth is defined by their international trade value. The lowered valued countries perfer to recoup their wealth by sharing their income so to elevate each citizen's independent wealth.

So comparing any of their rates in the basket is unfair. You have to have mini groups inside that basket to determine why their currencies differ.

2. One of their clearly stated goals of Iraq is to de-dollarize Iraq. If their Dinar is of lower value than the dollar, there is no way the citizens will use the Dinar. They will use the currency of higher value. Period. Hence, in order to achieve the internal use and increased pride of the Dinar, it must be at least a penny higher than the dollar. Otherwise, they will use the Kuwaiti Dinar, Bahrain Dinar, US Dollar, or any other currency available that is worth more than theirs.

Rich...hang with us friend. We are at the end of the bumpy road. We will celebrate with a cold one in Atlantis. All will be very good.

Excellent Joe P -the voice of reason.

I agree and the ".27 rate" will be a back-breaker for Iraq. Yes, they will destroy all the higher denoms coming in, but many investors including us will just turn around and buy more of the new lower denominations and stock up waiting for them to increase the value higher and cash in again.

Iraq will have to start the auctions, buying/selling etc. as well. This is worse than starting at a higher rate maintaining stability and currency fluctuations.

[BANE]

You guys just don't get it. It's not something you can wait out. However, you can still accomplish your stated goal by being smart.

Your strategy should be to sell all and rebuy on Forex because there will be a time frame to turn in all large bills. And, if you think for a moment that they can't simply state all large bills are void, you'll be in trouble.

So, cash in at 27 cents...buy back on Forex and sit on it for at least 3 more years.

However, it won't come out at 27 cents. It will be over a dollar, maybe not by much, but it will be over a dollar.

I don't believe that either. They can't tell me my currency is worthless. When the U.S. took all the thousand dollar bills out of circulation they didn't decree the 1,000 bill was worthless. It is NOW even more valuable if you hung onto it. It will be the same with Dinar. I can hold onto it for 2 years and it will be still the same amount if not more if say it rv's this week. There won't be a time limit.