caddieman Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, coorslite21 said: The "expert witness" specifically stated this happened in the "Beast"... Gee.....if that wasn't his ride that day... I guess her credibility is shot! CL Come on CL. I bet just about every secretary on capital hill calls whatever vehicle the President is riding in The Beast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 I will also say this. If Trump is innocent why don’t his pals, his loyalists people go and testify. Stop taking the 5th. Not going to happen! Why, because they know they will go to jail! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted June 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, caddieman said: I will also say this. If Trump is innocent why don’t his pals, his loyalists people go and testify. Stop taking the 5th. Not going to happen! Why, because they know they will go to jail! Most everyone with any familiarity with DC knows only the Limo is the Beast....the ground shakes when it rolls by... Who would testify when you know your comments will be cherry picked and there is no rebuttal in the process. This is a complete sham.... CL 1 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, coorslite21 said: Most everyone with any familiarity with DC knows only the Limo is the Beast....the ground shakes when it rolls by... Who would testify when you know your comments will be cherry picked and there is no rebuttal in the process. This is a complete sham.... CL Complete sham is correct, he couldn’t even reach the steering wheel … of course they won’t question the two Security guys in the car that swear her testimony is a lie …. Can’t have that now can they !!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, coorslite21 said: Most everyone with any familiarity with DC knows only the Limo is the Beast....the ground shakes when it rolls by... Who would testify when you know your comments will be cherry picked and there is no rebuttal in the process. This is a complete sham.... CL So all these Republicans that are testifying under oath are committing perjury. Why would they? What do they have to gain. Absolutely nothing. Far from a sham CL. It’s people telling the truth. It’s people having the guts to tell the American people the truth no matter what lies are told about them on social media. Why would a 26 year old kid go lie to congress? A sense of duty as an American is what I see. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shelley said: Complete sham is correct, he couldn’t even reach the steering wheel … of course they won’t question the two Security guys in the car that swear her testimony is a lie …. Can’t have that now can they !!!! He wasn’t in the limo. And these two guys are going to testify. So they are going to question them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 The curtain is being opened on the wizard of Oz in this trial if you have enough courage to look. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, caddieman said: Why would a 26 year old kid go lie to congress? Let's see if she gets a "book deal" or to be a host commentary on MSNBC or CNN. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, caddieman said: The curtain is being opened on the wizard of Oz in this trial if you have enough courage to look. I’ve watched when I can, has nothing to do with courage… do I get disgusted at how left sided it is….YES 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted June 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, caddieman said: So all these Republicans that are testifying under oath are committing perjury. Why would they? What do they have to gain. Absolutely nothing. Far from a sham CL. It’s people telling the truth. It’s people having the guts to tell the American people the truth no matter what lies are told about them on social media. Why would a 26 year old kid go lie to congress? A sense of duty as an American is what I see. There is no Judicial aspect to this hearing.... The hearing is a one sided sham event with no opportunity for rebuttal. There is no opportunity to present factual evidence such as Trump signing off on 20,000 National Guardsmen and then Pelosi and the DC Mayor denying that help.... Of course that type of info won't be allowed in this sham..... and the new Star witness....perhaps she'll find, or has been promised, a job at the "Circle Back Girls" network.... CL 1 1 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, coorslite21 said: There is no Judicial aspect to this hearing.... The hearing is a one sided sham event with no opportunity for rebuttal. There is no opportunity to present factual evidence such as Trump signing off on 20,000 National Guardsmen and then Pelosi and the DC Mayor denying that help.... Of course that type of info won't be allowed in this sham..... and the new Star witness....perhaps she'll find, or has been promised, a job at the "Circle Back Girls" network.... CL Oh he wanted Guardsmen there all right to protect his rally people not the capital. The truth gets stretched and distorted to fit a narrative as time goes by. May 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump wanted National Guard troops in Washington to protect his supporters at a Jan. 6 rally that ended with them attacking the U.S. Capitol, leaving five dead, Trump's former Pentagon chief testified on Wednesday. Former Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller told a House of Representatives panel that he spoke with Trump on Jan. 3, three days before the now-former president's fiery speech that preceded the violence and led to his second impeachment. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congresswoman-says-trump-administration-botched-capitol-riot-preparations-2021-05-12/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 1 hour ago, coorslite21 said: There is no Judicial aspect to this hearing.... The hearing is a one sided sham event with no opportunity for rebuttal. There is no opportunity to present factual evidence such as Trump signing off on 20,000 National Guardsmen and then Pelosi and the DC Mayor denying that help.... Of course that type of info won't be allowed in this sham..... and the new Star witness....perhaps she'll find, or has been promised, a job at the "Circle Back Girls" network.... CL At any time one of Trumps cronies can stop pleading the 5th and defend Trump. They won’t because they will incriminate themselves. Why did they all beg for pardons after the attack on the capital? We all know. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, caddieman said: Trumps cronies How about these "cronies"? Five times witnesses were so knee-deep in scandal that the only choice they had in avoiding the appearance of illegality was by completely covering up the truth. VA official, John Sepulveda, spent large amounts of taxpayer money on a pair of extravagant conferences, resigned, and then spent the majority of a hearing looking into his actions saying “On the advice of my counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based on my fifth Amendment constitutional privilege.” Fast and Furious – remember the scandal that started it all? Patrick Cunningham, the chief of the criminal division of the U.S. attorney’s office in Arizona, invoked the fifth regarding his role in the operation that sent more than 2,000 guns across the border to dangerous drug cartels. Those guns were found at the scene of Brian Terry’s murder. While not technically administration officials, Solyndra executives were so intertwined in Obama’s stimulus boondoggle that it felt as such. Naturally, when Congress wanted answers on why the solar company was awarded a $535 million loan guarantee through the stimulus, they invoked the fifth Amendment. Greg Rosemen, a Deputy IRS Director, pleaded the fifth after awarding the largest contract in IRS history to a company owned by a close friend. And of course, probably the most famous effort at pleading the fifth, was Lois Lerner, who repeatedly asserted her right not to testify regarding the scandal that her agency, the IRS, targeted conservative groups and withheld or prolonged their applications for tax-exempt status. 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted June 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 hours ago, caddieman said: Oh he wanted Guardsmen there all right to protect his rally people not the capital. The truth gets stretched and distorted to fit a narrative as time goes by. May 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump wanted National Guard troops in Washington to protect his supporters at a Jan. 6 rally that ended with them attacking the U.S. Capitol, leaving five dead, Trump's former Pentagon chief testified on Wednesday. Former Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller told a House of Representatives panel that he spoke with Trump on Jan. 3, three days before the now-former president's fiery speech that preceded the violence and led to his second impeachment. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congresswoman-says-trump-administration-botched-capitol-riot-preparations-2021-05-12/ Grandma always said..... "You can't fix stupid" Chaney will not be reelected.....the other loser is quitting because he knows he will never be elected again.. Pelosi will no longer be the Speaker... Biden will be impeached and/or 25thed... Harris will be leading the free world......isn't that an interesting thought..... The Star witness of yesterday will get 20 years... I'll stop for now..... CL 4 2 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Liz Cheney's Jan. 6 Committee Witness Could Find Herself in Jail After Trump WH Attorney Drops Bomb By Jack Gist June 29, 2022 at 2:16pm Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a debilitating disease that disconnects the afflicted from reality. Although most are either born with or have developed a natural immunity to this sickness, there are still those who attempt to spread the infection. It now appears that Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows in the Trump administration, has come down with an acute case of TDS. The only cure might just be some time in jail. Rep. Liz Cheney displayed a handwritten note at Tuesday’s Jan. 6 committee hearing that Hutchinson testified she wrote after Mark Meadows handed her a note card and pen to take his dictation, according to ABC News. Eric Herschmann, a former Trump White House lawyer, claims the note was written by him. Hutchinson, testifying about the note, said, “That’s a note that I wrote at the direction of the chief of staff on Jan. 6, likely around 3 o’clock.” “And it’s written on the chief of staff note card, but that’s your handwriting, Ms. Hutchinson?” Rep. Liz Cheney then asked. “That’s my handwriting,” Hutchinson answered. A spokesperson for Herschmann told ABC News on Tuesday evening, “The handwritten note that Cassidy Hutchinson testified was written by her was in fact written by Eric Herschmann on Jan. 6, 2021. All sources with direct knowledge and law enforcement have and will confirm that it was written by Mr. Herschmann,” the representative said. Hmmm. Who to believe? Hutchinson also testified that Tony Ornato, former Trump Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, told her that former President Donald Trump repeatedly demanded that the Secret Service take him to the Capitol on Jan. 6, according to FOX News. Hutchinson also said that Ornato told her that Trump lunged at a Secret Service agent and tried to grab the wheel of the presidential SUV. Ornato, on the other hand, says he did not brief Hutchinson. A source close to Ornato told Fox News that Ornato watched the hearing and was distraught when Hutchinson made the allegation about the steering wheel. To top it off, Ornato wasn’t even in the presidential SUV when the alleged incident was supposed to have happened. Both Bobby Engel, the top agent on Trump’s Secret Service detail — who was in the SUV — and Ornato testified to the Jan. 6 Committee in private over the past year, according to Fox. Neither Engel nor Ornato brought up anything about a steering wheel. Both are willing to testify that Trump did not grab or try to grab the wheel. The unnamed driver of the SUV will also cooperate with the committee if asked. Judging by the Jan. 6 Committee’s refusal to have witnesses cross-examined by reputable Republicans like Jim Jordan and Jim Banks — who were not allowed on the committee — it’s doubtful that Ornato and others who dispute Hutchinson’s claims will be called by the committee. It wouldn’t suit their tendentious tactics. It’s also doubtful that Hutchinson will be charged with lying to Congress under oath. Her testimony is, at best, hearsay. She claims that she was relating what she had heard from someone else. In other words, she didn’t actually witness anything at all. Nevertheless, U.S. Code sections 1621 of Title 18 stipulate that anyone who “willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true” is guilty of perjury and shall be fined or imprisoned up to five years, or both. Section 1001 stipulated that “whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the government of the United States, knowingly and willfully” falsifies or conceals information before a congressional committee may be fined or imprisoned up to five years. Why would Hutchinson lie and in doing so risk jail time? Who knows? TDS comes with strange symptoms. Take Liz Cheney for example. She recently reached out to Democratic voters in Wyoming asking them to register as Republicans to vote for her in the upcoming primary election. Surely some Dems in Wyoming have TDS, but not enough to stop Republican Harriet Hageman from handily winning the election. Why would Cheney bother with such a futile move? It’s embarrassing. Why would the Jan. 6 Committee commit to humiliating itself time and again on national television? Due process has been blatantly thrown out the door. Propping up young witnesses like Cassidy Hutchinson to be chopped down by the facts and witnesses waiting just outside the committee doors disintegrates any inkling of legitimacy the committee crazily believes they possess. TDS can’t run its course soon enough. Some, like Liz Cheney and Adam Schiff, will probably never recover from it. But they, too, must pass. It’s actually sad to watch. It’s almost as if the Jan. 6 Committee is chock-full of masochists. https://www.westernjournal.com/liz-cheneys-jan-6-committee-witness-find-jail-trump-wh-attorney-drops-bomb/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=rightalertsbreaking&utm_campaign=wj-breaking&utm_content=ttp&ats_es=6693722765e9561a48cba8986380260c 1 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 7:36 PM, nstoolman1 said: Liz Cheney's Jan. 6 Committee Witness Could Find Herself in Jail After Trump WH Attorney Drops Bomb By Jack Gist June 29, 2022 at 2:16pm Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a debilitating disease that disconnects the afflicted from reality. Although most are either born with or have developed a natural immunity to this sickness, there are still those who attempt to spread the infection. It now appears that Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows in the Trump administration, has come down with an acute case of TDS. The only cure might just be some time in jail. Rep. Liz Cheney displayed a handwritten note at Tuesday’s Jan. 6 committee hearing that Hutchinson testified she wrote after Mark Meadows handed her a note card and pen to take his dictation, according to ABC News. Eric Herschmann, a former Trump White House lawyer, claims the note was written by him. Hutchinson, testifying about the note, said, “That’s a note that I wrote at the direction of the chief of staff on Jan. 6, likely around 3 o’clock.” “And it’s written on the chief of staff note card, but that’s your handwriting, Ms. Hutchinson?” Rep. Liz Cheney then asked. “That’s my handwriting,” Hutchinson answered. A spokesperson for Herschmann told ABC News on Tuesday evening, “The handwritten note that Cassidy Hutchinson testified was written by her was in fact written by Eric Herschmann on Jan. 6, 2021. All sources with direct knowledge and law enforcement have and will confirm that it was written by Mr. Herschmann,” the representative said. Hmmm. Who to believe? Hutchinson also testified that Tony Ornato, former Trump Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, told her that former President Donald Trump repeatedly demanded that the Secret Service take him to the Capitol on Jan. 6, according to FOX News. Hutchinson also said that Ornato told her that Trump lunged at a Secret Service agent and tried to grab the wheel of the presidential SUV. Ornato, on the other hand, says he did not brief Hutchinson. A source close to Ornato told Fox News that Ornato watched the hearing and was distraught when Hutchinson made the allegation about the steering wheel. To top it off, Ornato wasn’t even in the presidential SUV when the alleged incident was supposed to have happened. Both Bobby Engel, the top agent on Trump’s Secret Service detail — who was in the SUV — and Ornato testified to the Jan. 6 Committee in private over the past year, according to Fox. Neither Engel nor Ornato brought up anything about a steering wheel. Both are willing to testify that Trump did not grab or try to grab the wheel. The unnamed driver of the SUV will also cooperate with the committee if asked. Judging by the Jan. 6 Committee’s refusal to have witnesses cross-examined by reputable Republicans like Jim Jordan and Jim Banks — who were not allowed on the committee — it’s doubtful that Ornato and others who dispute Hutchinson’s claims will be called by the committee. It wouldn’t suit their tendentious tactics. It’s also doubtful that Hutchinson will be charged with lying to Congress under oath. Her testimony is, at best, hearsay. She claims that she was relating what she had heard from someone else. In other words, she didn’t actually witness anything at all. Nevertheless, U.S. Code sections 1621 of Title 18 stipulate that anyone who “willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true” is guilty of perjury and shall be fined or imprisoned up to five years, or both. Section 1001 stipulated that “whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the government of the United States, knowingly and willfully” falsifies or conceals information before a congressional committee may be fined or imprisoned up to five years. Why would Hutchinson lie and in doing so risk jail time? Who knows? TDS comes with strange symptoms. Take Liz Cheney for example. She recently reached out to Democratic voters in Wyoming asking them to register as Republicans to vote for her in the upcoming primary election. Surely some Dems in Wyoming have TDS, but not enough to stop Republican Harriet Hageman from handily winning the election. Why would Cheney bother with such a futile move? It’s embarrassing. Why would the Jan. 6 Committee commit to humiliating itself time and again on national television? Due process has been blatantly thrown out the door. Propping up young witnesses like Cassidy Hutchinson to be chopped down by the facts and witnesses waiting just outside the committee doors disintegrates any inkling of legitimacy the committee crazily believes they possess. TDS can’t run its course soon enough. Some, like Liz Cheney and Adam Schiff, will probably never recover from it. But they, too, must pass. It’s actually sad to watch. It’s almost as if the Jan. 6 Committee is chock-full of masochists. https://www.westernjournal.com/liz-cheneys-jan-6-committee-witness-find-jail-trump-wh-attorney-drops-bomb/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=rightalertsbreaking&utm_campaign=wj-breaking&utm_content=ttp&ats_es=6693722765e9561a48cba8986380260c Anybody that says she is lying is free to go in front of congress and say so. They can give proof. There is an open invitation by the chairman of the committee to come forth…….You think that’s going to happen?……….yeah right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, caddieman said: Anybody that says she is lying is free to go in front of congress and say so. They can give proof. There is an open invitation by the chairman of the committee to come forth…….You think that’s going to happen?……….yeah right! First of all if this was a real court trial , her statement wouldn’t even be allowed , hearsay from someone who heard from someone else …. Please … 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Shelley said: First of all if this was a real court trial , her statement wouldn’t even be allowed , hearsay from someone who heard from someone else …. Please … Did you hear the rest of her hour and a half of her first hand testimony? ……….please! Anybody that says she is lying can come forth……….don’t count on it! Edited July 1, 2022 by caddieman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, caddieman said: Did you hear the rest of her hour and a half of her first hand testimony? ……….please! Anybody that says she is lying can come forth……….don’t count on it! Oh you can count on people coming forth…. You can also count on this committee not letting them be heard !!! Edited July 1, 2022 by Shelley 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 50 minutes ago, caddieman said: Did you hear the rest of her hour and a half of her first hand testimony? I wonder why there is never any cross examine. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, caddieman said: Did you hear the rest of her hour and a half of her first hand testimony? ……….please! Anybody that says she is lying can come forth……….don’t count on it! Secret Service already came forth and said she lied. She lied about the note that was written. 19 minutes ago, bigwave said: I wonder why there is never any cross examine. Because cross examination exposes lies. Dem commitee doesn't want that to happen. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, caddieman said: Did you hear the rest of her hour and a half of her first hand testimony? ……….please! Anybody that says she is lying can come forth……….don’t count on it! I call on this comment 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Shelley said: I call on this comment You can call bs all you want……it’s the truth. Like it or not. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, caddieman said: You can call bs all you want……it’s the truth. Like it or not. It’s not the truth !!! They will never allow anyone to rebut her hearsay statement !!! So you go on thinking they’re going to play fair , they never will I bet you believe Biden … the gas prices are so high because of Putin Edited July 1, 2022 by Shelley 1 1 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 WATCH: Trump reacts to Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony | Wake Up America 173,058 views Jun 30, 2022 Miss Jones 2 days ago I feel so bad for the president. The non-stop attacks are so disgusting. Thank you, Prezzy Trump, for all you’ve done for America! You are my president 🇺🇸 Diana Ortiz 3 days ago You are a Strong President and God's got your back!+...🇺🇸💪☝️🙏💚 J. Pederson 2 days ago God bless president Trump, the best president ever!!!✝️✝️✝️ The Black Cock 3 days ago We need more Trump interviews we miss him swissmaid 3 days ago Loving Trump from Australia! Go Trump, the world needs YOU!! ❤❤❤ niel williams 2 days ago It is time for all good Americans to get more positive about this great man. Without Trump, America is lost. Lee Peebles 1 day ago "Hear-say"cannot stand up in a court of law. You actually have to witness the alleged happening. She wasn't there. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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