Guest views are now limited to 12 pages. If you get an "Error" message, just sign in! If you need to create an account, click here.

Jump to content
  • CRYPTO REWARDS!

    Full endorsement on this opportunity - but it's limited, so get in while you can!

What will it take?


Recommended Posts

What will it take to have common sense gun control. 
 

An eighteen year old can’t buy alcohol. 
An eighteen year old can’t rent a car. 
An eighteen year old can’t buy a hand gun(in Texas)

But an eighteen year old CAN go out an buy an AR15 assault rifle! Really how f-ing stupid is that? 
And no, nobody is taking away your guns. If parents want to buy a gun for their kids, fine. Kids go hunting all the time with parents, or go to shooting ranges. But if that kid takes the gun and goes out a kills somebody with it, the parent should be liable for the actions. Just like if you supply alcohol to minors. You are responsible. 
And why in the hell can’t have background checks to make sure someone isn’t a wack job?
 

Simple common sense. Is that to damn much to ask of the idiots in congress. I guess so, sadly!

 

 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
  • Confused 1
  • Upvote 2
  • Pow! 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree with the back ground checks, cool off periods and other reforms that limit this from happening again. I say limit because it will never be stopped completely. 

 

The fact it was an AR15 really has nothing to do with what happened.  As close as this person was to the people, they could have completed the same carnage with a handgun or pump shot gun. You can drive into a crowd of people,  you can make pipe bombs or whatever comes to mind to harm or kill many people.  When a lone person is determined to take lives of those who are suspecting and unable to protect themselves, it is very hard to prevent it from happening.  But we should do everything we can to limit it. 

 

Although it is extremely  hard to do, emotions need to be shelved when making decisions. After all, it's the person acting that makes a rifle, shot gun, car or other devices dangerous.  The devices sitting idol are no threat.

 

My opinion

 

 

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
  • Upvote 4
  • Pow! 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, caddieman said:

But if that kid takes the gun and goes out a kills somebody with it, the parent should be liable for the actions

I agree caddieman, if that were the case, I am sure the parents would pay much more attention to where their guns happen to be and probably be more attentive to making sure they STAY locked up until they are needed.  Don't know what you are talking about with regard to background checks. Just purchased a pistol a few weeks ago and had to fill out all the required paperwork (all on a computer) for background check and it had to come back approved before the gun shop would even consider the sale. So perhaps the solution you seek comes from the authorities doing the job they are being paid to do. If we could surveil the social media of the Diaper Head terrorist to catch them before the committed a heinous crime after 9/11, then for DAMN sure we can find out what the nut job teens are doing and saying, especially on these dark demonic sites. BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, there are states that have the toughest gun laws in the country and they are the places with the highest incidences of gun violence. So pass ALL the laws you want, but if you are not going to enforce them then you are urinating into the wind. AAnd we all know that the whole objective of the Rats is to eventually get to the point the where YES they will come for our guns. And they will use ANY means that serves their end game. However, I don't think they will like the results, when the populace of our nation gets wind of the gun roundup. Just saying.

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Over 18 he is not a minor, parents aren't responsible. 

Maybe the LEOs should have flagged him after all the bb gun incidents shooting people. Maybe the doors to the school should have been locked.

Maybe the school cop should have been where he was supposed to be. 

  • Thanks 1
  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

46 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

Over 18 he is not a minor, parents aren't responsible. 

Maybe the LEOs should have flagged him after all the bb gun incidents shooting people. Maybe the doors to the school should have been locked.

Maybe the school cop should have been where he was supposed to be. 

An 18 year old should have no access to buy an assault rifle by himself. PERIOD!

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
  • Confused 1
  • Downvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, caddieman said:

An 18 year old should have no access to buy an assault rifle by himself. PERIOD!

Hey bud, I can tell your upset  ( why shouldn't anyone be)  but I don't think age , at least 19, is the issue. Our military is made up of young men and women who are 18 and 19 and are very responsible and stable. The issue is and always will be that people on ang age that are mentally ill, unstable or angry  that get there hands on weapons with dangerous intentions. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, cranman said:

Hey bud, I can tell your upset  ( why shouldn't anyone be)  but I don't think age , at least 19, is the issue. Our military is made up of young men and women who are 18 and 19 and are very responsible and stable. The issue is and always will be that people on ang age that are mentally ill, unstable or angry  that get there hands on weapons with dangerous intentions. 

Young military men and women are totally different. They have been schooled, trained and mentored on all sorts of advanced weapons. The run of the mill 18 to 20 year olds have no business having an assault rifle. The majority are not mature enough to handle it. And yes mentally is a major issue.

  • Thanks 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

An 18 year old should have no access to buy an assault rifle by himself. PERIOD!

This is as simple as it gets:

 

 

Second Amendment

Second Amendment Explained

 

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

Law enforcement should do its job and if not there are some very fine men and women that can take care of bad men and women via the 2nd.

 

  • Confused 1
  • Upvote 1
  • Pow! 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

"Background checks" are in place at this moment.

Regardless of what the MSM is saying.

The gun, ammo and or body armor is not the issue/problem.

If you buy on "the street", then no "background check" is needed. To buy legitimately, an AFT "background check" is required.

It "appears" that these AR-15's were purchased legally.

Example; Recently, I purchased a .22 caliber level action rifle that was manufactured in 1925 (almost 100 years old) and had to go thru the procedure of an ATF "background check" because, I like old guns and history.

In addition, I have an ATF issued license allowing me to purchase such a firearm, however, I still had to go thru the procedure of the "background check" at the local gun shop (FFL).

 

Just sayin' ...................

 

Semper Fi :salute:

 

 

  • Pow! 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Good thread....

 

The left has been looking for something that might give them some traction for the midterms...

This might be the issue....

 

There are currently 15 million  AR 15's in the US...

These are military grade weapons....and most every case of a mass shooting has involved an AR... 

 

I believe we will see legislation banning the future sales, and construction of these weapons for the general public... with the exception of those with a built in limited magazine load of approximately 7 rounds...

Given the current political climate.....a bill like this could pass.....

Thoughts?     CL 

 

 

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bigwave has a good point that nobody wants to talk about. He didn't buy any of this someone got these for him. I too would like to know how a 18 year old that's broke living with his grandmother who has no money, his parents are broke, how did he get all this 

  • Pow! 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

These are not assault rifles. They do not have the three shot / autofire select on them. 

I can kill more people with a car than a gun. 

Did they ban airplanes when they flew into the towers?

Did they ban cars and trucks when people have driven into crowds?

Did they ban knives after stabbings?

No, this is attack on the Second A.

You cannot control a population that has access to self protection.

When you think you have to bury or hide your guns to keep them that is the time you need them. 

18 year olds are considered adults under the law. Don't like it, change the law don’t regulate the object.

 

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
  • Confused 1
  • Pow! 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry caddie man, but you comment on 18 year olds and weapons is :bs:!!  My dad gave me a shotgun when I was 12, sent me into the woods to hunt alone. After I proved I could handle that task we then started hunting together along with my brother and cousins. My point?  Perhaps parental responsibility is the answer (not only in this case but in many societal problems we face today). We have become a nation of soft p---ies, lazy and apathetic to the world around us. We have stood by and allowed social media to warp our brains and the brains of our kids to the point no one wants to do squat to help themselves. We have become dependent on our corrupt government to solve problems that they themselves created. Most of our younger generation no NOTHING of our history and so could give 2 shiites about the one document that insures their freedom. Our Constitution. Make no mistake, the Rats are gonna use some tragedy like this every time it happens to try to confiscate our guns. You CANNOT build a One World Order/Government and allow citizens to retain ANY freedoms or powers of self determination. Biden's agenda is the acceleration of the demise of our great nation, in order to reach the globalist's goals that they stated this past week in Davos. They must go balls to the wall, because Nov is fast approaching and unless they can lock our nation down again with some pandemic/crisis so we have more mail-in ballots and the Rats can steal another election, they are toast. But perhaps you like the future a One World globalist control order brings to the table caddieman. And how do you feel about $10+ gasoline? It's coming. How about food shortages caddieman? It's coming and I predict probably by the end of the year. And again, as horrible as that shooting in TX was, as the facts come out we will find that many balls were dropped in this tragedy, and many that were responsible for the safety and protection of our kids failed in the mission. So stop the "it was the AR's fault let's take them away from EVERYONE" BS, and stop politicizing this tragedy and get down to some non-political common sense solutions, that make actually help and solve problems such as this one.

  • Like 4
  • Confused 1
  • Upvote 1
  • Pow! 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 5/27/2022 at 4:32 PM, caddieman said:

An 18 year old should have no access to buy an assault rifle by himself. PERIOD!

Hmmm, he can vote, join the military, die for his country…but according to you, can’t buy a rifle??? Is that how it works?!?!

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
  • Pow! 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 5/29/2022 at 9:55 PM, CSM (R) Thack said:

Hmmm, he can vote, join the military, die for his country…but according to you, can’t buy a rifle??? Is that how it works?!?!

Hmmm, He can’t drink He can’t rent a car. So yeah thats the way it works.

  • Upvote 2
  • Downvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

How about figuring out why he's at this point when there were red flags about him? What's wrong with him to shoot his grandmother in the face? This is beyond a blanket statement that he's crazy or a nut case. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry caddie, it's not an assault rifle. Had to neg you there. There will be a lot more info coming out but no, it is not an assault rifle. Start with the cowardly cops wetting their fat panties outside while kids are screaming AND most importantly the person who let him in with the door open, who remains unnamed at the moment. There's your devil in a dress who made the whole damn thang go down.  

  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 hours ago, caddieman said:

Hmmm, He can’t drink He can’t rent a car. So yeah thats the way it works.

He can’t drink…because that’s the law!!! And so is buying a rifle, at age 18, in Texas!!! So … Yeah, that’s how it works!!!

  • Upvote 1
  • Pow! 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, wildeman said:

Sorry caddie, it's not an assault rifle. Had to neg you there. There will be a lot more info coming out but no, it is not an assault rifle. Start with the cowardly cops wetting their fat panties outside while kids are screaming AND most importantly the person who let him in with the door open, who remains unnamed at the moment. There's your devil in a dress who made the whole damn thang go down.  

Kind of goes along the same theme of the unnamed leaker from the SC on the Roe/Wade info...

American Justice is a joke....with the exception of the Military!   CL

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

Yes CL.

 

Durham = 0

Bad guys = 1

 

It could very well take Military intervention to regain control of this country. The plans for this have been on the table for some time.

Those crazy conspiracy people might not be so crazy....where there's smoke there's fire....    CL 

  • Like 4
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

These so called "out of control gun violence events" are ALL orchestrated.

 

Lookie HERE:

 

 

THEE LSM are puppets like all the bought off. Sure, people were harmed in these events while the story line is ENTIRELY FABRICATED!!!

 

The target is to remove the capability of individuals to organize and instill/reinstitute their God Given means of self governance.

 

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

 

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript

 

So, who cares about what the Snowflake And Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteers Forces under the guise of Communism, Socialism, Nazism, Fascism, Progressivism, and Liberalism "think" with THEIR "cognition" "self" "buried' IN THEIR "respective" "safe" "spaces"???!!!

 

NOT I!!!

 

Keep Yer Powder Dry!!!

 

image.png.524827b86da7a07d4c8aa6ddf4fc2f32.png

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 2
  • Downvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.


  • Testing the Rocker Badge!

  • Live Exchange Rate

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.