prohecy to the second coming RUSSIA TO INVADE UKRAINE. GOOD OR BAD?

[divemaster5734]

7 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

How do you know when the Satanic Lame Stream Media is manipulating you? By using critical thinking. In the article below we're being fed so much crap I swear just reading it left a bad taste in my mouth. 

Critical thinking suggests that the Iranians hit the Embassy and the government doesn't want to explain all the Dead soldiers. 

 

WW3 HAS BEGUN 

 

 

Missiles fired toward US consulate in Iraq came from Iran: officials

The missile strike did not result in any American casualties, officials said

 

 By Kyle Morris , Dom Calicchio | Fox News

 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/missile-strike-near-us-consulate-in-erbil-iraq-no-american-casualties-reported

 

 

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A series of missiles were fired Sunday from Iran in the direction of the U.S. consulate in Erbil, Iraq,

 

" the first clue of lying manipulation is this, (( 

a senior U.S. official told Fox News )) this tactic is used so that if the truth comes out they can blame the UN-NAMED official "

 

a senior U.S. official told Fox News.

The missiles numbered as many as 12, The Associated Press reported.

None of the missiles made contact with the consulate, the U.S. official told Fox News.

((again with the unnamed source))

 

All U.S. personnel were accounted for at the consulate complex and no casualties were reported near the unmanned consulate

 

((So how do you "ACCOUNT" for U.S. personnel in an "UNMANNED" facility?))

 

in Erbil, the capital of the autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq.

 

"There is no damage or casualties at any U.S. Government facility," a State Department spokesperson told Fox News. "The incident is being investigated by the government of Iraq and the Kurdish Regional Government and we refer you to them for comment. We condemn this outrageous attack and display of violence."

 

A national security official told Fox News

there was no indication the missiles were intended for U.S. facilities.

 

((Certainly not, just bad luck))

 

The strike represented an escalation in hostilities between Iran and the U.S., which have been played out mostly inside Iraq, the AP reported.

Soon after the attack, satellite broadcast channel Kurdistan24, whose headquarters is located near the consulate, aired images of shattered glass and scattered debris on the floor of its studio, the AP reported.

The missile strike came several days after Iran said it would respond to an Israeli strike near Damascus, Syria, that resulted in the deaths of two members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, according to the AP.

 

Iran's state-run IRNA news agency reported on Sunday's strike in Iraq but did not say where the missiles originated, the AP reported.

But one Iraqi official told the AP the missiles were fired from Iran and were Iranian-made Fateh-110s – and the strike likely represented a response to the Damascus attack.

 

(( BUT,  Didn't you say, "there was no indication the missiles were intended for U.S. facilities?)) Good grief 

 

 

Nuclear talks on ‘pause’

The Sunday strike also came as negotiations in Vienna, on the potential revival of the Obama-era Iran nuclear deal, hit a "pause" because of Russia's demands regarding economic sanctions it faces because of its invasion of Ukraine, according to the AP.

 

The U.S.military has shifted to a non-combat role in Iraq, but Iran and its allies still want the U.S. presence there to end, Marine Corps Gen. Frank McKenzie said in December, according to the AP.

U.S. troops remaining in Iraq provide air support system" rel="">support and other aid as the Iraqi military fights Islamic State forces, the report said.

 

The last time missiles were fired from inside Iran toward a U.S. site in Iraq was January 2020, after a U.S. drone strike near Baghdad's airport killed Iranian Lt. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, an official told Fox News.

 

Went and spent my "allowance" for the day, can't  up vote till tomorrow.

It's both liberating and frustrating when you reach a point that, through your personal research and aggregating various independent sources, you are suddenly able to gather far more truth and information from an article by reading what is not said between the lines than the garbage they are so desperately trying to promote.

 

I would invite you to read Tragedy and Hope, by Carrol Quigley, 1966

It's over 1300 pages, here's a link to a download

It's published on Ed Griffin's site Want To Know.

Ed is the guy who wrote The Creature from Jekyll Island, which exposed the five bankers who had a secret meeting at the resort hotel in the island off the Georgia coast, and plotted the creation of The Federal Reserve, which they then caused Woodrow Wilson and his Secretary of State Robert Lansing to send deceptive telegrams to various States, claiming other States had agreed to ratify the bill.

I had the distinct honor of a lunch with Ed in early 2002, which changed my perception of the world forever. 

That was back when Google had just started, eBay had commercials on TV with a guy in Dockers singing in a warehouse to promote the revolutionary idea of making purchases online, and Amazon was just a tiny little bookstore that started adding a couple accessory items to the library for sale.

Want To Know is an excellent source for investigative journalism from a constitutionally correct perspective.

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

How do you know when the Satanic Lame Stream Media is manipulating you? By using critical thinking. In the article below we're being fed so much crap I swear just reading it left a bad taste in my mouth. 

Critical thinking suggests that the Iranians hit the Embassy and the government doesn't want to explain all the Dead soldiers. 

 

WW3 HAS BEGUN 

 

 

Missiles fired toward US consulate in Iraq came from Iran: officials

The missile strike did not result in any American casualties, officials said

 

 By Kyle Morris , Dom Calicchio | Fox News

 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/missile-strike-near-us-consulate-in-erbil-iraq-no-american-casualties-reported

 

 

You can now listen to Fox News articles!

Listen to this article

 

 

0:00 / 1:17

1X

BeyondWords

A series of missiles were fired Sunday from Iran in the direction of the U.S. consulate in Erbil, Iraq,

 

" the first clue of lying manipulation is this, (( 

a senior U.S. official told Fox News )) this tactic is used so that if the truth comes out they can blame the UN-NAMED official "

 

a senior U.S. official told Fox News.

The missiles numbered as many as 12, The Associated Press reported.

None of the missiles made contact with the consulate, the U.S. official told Fox News.

((again with the unnamed source))

 

All U.S. personnel were accounted for at the consulate complex and no casualties were reported near the unmanned consulate

 

((So how do you "ACCOUNT" for U.S. personnel in an "UNMANNED" facility?))

 

in Erbil, the capital of the autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq.

 

"There is no damage or casualties at any U.S. Government facility," a State Department spokesperson told Fox News. "The incident is being investigated by the government of Iraq and the Kurdish Regional Government and we refer you to them for comment. We condemn this outrageous attack and display of violence."

 

A national security official told Fox News

there was no indication the missiles were intended for U.S. facilities.

 

((Certainly not, just bad luck))

 

The strike represented an escalation in hostilities between Iran and the U.S., which have been played out mostly inside Iraq, the AP reported.

Soon after the attack, satellite broadcast channel Kurdistan24, whose headquarters is located near the consulate, aired images of shattered glass and scattered debris on the floor of its studio, the AP reported.

The missile strike came several days after Iran said it would respond to an Israeli strike near Damascus, Syria, that resulted in the deaths of two members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, according to the AP.

 

Iran's state-run IRNA news agency reported on Sunday's strike in Iraq but did not say where the missiles originated, the AP reported.

But one Iraqi official told the AP the missiles were fired from Iran and were Iranian-made Fateh-110s – and the strike likely represented a response to the Damascus attack.

 

(( BUT,  Didn't you say, "there was no indication the missiles were intended for U.S. facilities?)) Good grief 

 

 

Nuclear talks on ‘pause’

The Sunday strike also came as negotiations in Vienna, on the potential revival of the Obama-era Iran nuclear deal, hit a "pause" because of Russia's demands regarding economic sanctions it faces because of its invasion of Ukraine, according to the AP.

 

The U.S.military has shifted to a non-combat role in Iraq, but Iran and its allies still want the U.S. presence there to end, Marine Corps Gen. Frank McKenzie said in December, according to the AP.

U.S. troops remaining in Iraq provide air support system" rel="">support and other aid as the Iraqi military fights Islamic State forces, the report said.

 

The last time missiles were fired from inside Iran toward a U.S. site in Iraq was January 2020, after a U.S. drone strike near Baghdad's airport killed Iranian Lt. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, an official told Fox News.

 

 

If you recall....the last time this happened.....the original stance was.... "nothing to see here"....but as usual, there was more to the story....

 

("The last time ballistic missiles were directed at US forces was in January 2020 – an Iranian retaliation for the US killing earlier that month of its military commander Qassem Soleimani at Baghdad airport.

No US personnel were killed in the 2020 attack but many suffered head injuries.")

 

And it was more serious than stated above.....CL 

 

All of these cowards that are on the move right now don't respect much, other than strength....

Unfortunately there isn't much strength or common sense to be found in western world government today...    CL 

[divemaster5734]

An in accurate report of the actors and agendas concerning  the USA, Ukraine and Russia, which helps make sense of the conflicting reports and explains Putin's motives.

As I've said before, Putin is a murdering butcher who has sent assassins to eliminate his political opponents. 

I don't believe he considers that an evil as much as a political necessity.

That said, he has a deep love of his country, and while he is still upset over the loss of the USSR, he was pushed into this invasion by actions against Russia initiated by the ocrap administration in 2014, under the direction of his handlers.. DM 

 

 

Why did Vladimir Putin (Probably) Save Volodymyr Zelensky’s Life?

By Eric Zuesse

Global Research, March 13, 2022

Region: Russia and FSU

Theme: US NATO War Agenda

In-depth Report: UKRAINE REPORT

Today, the dangers of military escalation are beyond description.

What is now happening in Ukraine has serious geopolitical implications. It could lead us into a World War III Scenario.

It is important that a peace process be initiated with a view to preventing escalation. 

Global Research condemns Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The history of this war must be understood.

The bombing and shelling led by Ukraine’s Armed Forces directed against the people of Donbass started eight years ago, resulting in the destruction of residential areas and more than 10,000 civilian casualties.

A  bilateral Peace Agreement is required.

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According to Ukrainian Government officials, a Chechen team led by Chechnya’s leader, an ardent supporter of Vladimir Putin, was about to assassinate Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky, but Russia’s Government passed along to Ukraine’s Government the information that this team were in Ukraine and were intending to assassinate him; and, so, that team were killed by Ukraine’s Government forces.

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On February 26th, Reuters headlined “Chechen leader, a close Putin ally, says his forces have deployed to Ukraine” and reported that,

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“Ramzan Kadyrov, the leader of Russia’s Chechnya region and an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, said on Saturday that Chechen fighters had been deployed to Ukraine and urged Ukrainians to overthrow their government.”

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On 1 March, Axios headlined “Zelensky assassination plot foiled, Ukrainian authorities say”, and reported that:

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Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council chief Oleksiy Danilov announced during a briefing Tuesday that Ukrainian forces had foiled an assassination plot against President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to a Telegram post from Ukrainian authorities. …

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According to the Telegram message, Danilov said that a unit of elite Chechen special forces, known as Kadyrovites, had been behind the plot and had subsequently been “eliminated.”

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• “We are well aware of the special operation that was to take place directly by the Kadyrovites to eliminate our president,” Danilov said, per the post.
• Ukrainian authorities had been tipped off about the plot by members of Russia’s Federal Security Service who do not support the war, he added.

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On 2 March, the Washington Post headlined an extremely brief (150-word) news-report “Assassination plot against Zelensky foiled and unit sent to kill him ‘destroyed,’ Ukraine says”, and reported that,

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“A recent alleged assassination plot against Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was foiled over the weekend and the Chechen servicemen sent from Russia were ‘destroyed,’ a Ukrainian security leader said.”

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Danilov is quoted there as having asserted that he could reveal only “that we have received information from the FSB, who today do not want to take part in this bloody war.”

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The Washington Post’s modifying the source Ukrainian news-account by referring to it as having been about an “alleged assassination plot” (i.e., expressing doubt regarding the truthfulness of what this Ukrainian official had said) was quite striking for a newspaper (such as the WP) that had previously accepted unquestioningly the statements that the Ukrainian Government has been making about the Russian Government ever since February 2014.

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On March 7th, the London Times bannered “This war will be a total failure, FSB whistleblower says”, and reported:

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Spies in Russia’s infamous security apparatus were kept in the dark about President Putin’s plan to invade Ukraine, according to a whistleblower who described the war as a “total failure” that could be compared only to the collapse of Nazi Germany. … The report said the FSB was being blamed for the failure of the invasion but had been given no warning of it and was unprepared to deal with the effects of crippling sanctions.

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There are two very different plausible ways to interpret (or explain) all of this. Neither way fits the standard press-accounts about Russia’s Government, and about Vladimir Putin in particular. (And that might be the reason why the WP was reluctant to believe this Ukrainian official’s statement there.)

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One such possibility is that what has been quoted from the official is entirely true, and that Russia’s FSB (Federal Security Bureau), which is the successor to the Soviet Union’s KGB, was actually violating Putin’s command.

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Putin had “spent 16 years in the Soviet security service, rising to the rank of KGB lieutenant colonel before the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991”, so that Yuri Andropov had been heading the KGB at the time when Putin first entered the organization, and Vladimir Kryuchkov was heading it at the time when an FSB Lieutenant Colonel, Mr. Putin, quit it.

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(Kryuchkov had just then led the coup-attempt to overthrow the nation’s leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, and Putin has said that this was the reason why Putin had quit the organization: he rejected what his organization’s leader was trying to do.)

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Consequently, if the news-accounts of this recent assassination-attempt against Zelensky are entirely true, then Putin would, on March 1st, have been actually defeating an FSB action that was in violation of his own command, and, if that is so, then it would have been followed immediately by Putin’s accusing of having committed treason, the FSB’s organization, the management who were above the assassination-attempt’s direct perpetrators, all the way up to the organization’s very top, Alexander Bortnikov, about whom Wikipedia says:

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On 22 February 2022, in response to Russia recognising the independence of separatist regions in eastern Ukraine during the 2021–2022 Russo-Ukrainian crisis, US President Joe Biden announced he was imposing sanctions on several Russian individuals and banks, including Bortnikov and his son, Denis, who also serves as deputy president of VTB Bank.[9]

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U.S. media portray Bortnikov as the man who has “delivered the goods for Putin,” and even as being “Putin’s Top Enabler.” And the BBC headlined on March 3rd “Who’s in Putin’s inner circle and running the war?” and they asserted there that 

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“Kremlin watchers say the president trusts information he receives from the security services more than any other source, and Alexander Bortnikov is seen as being part of the Putin inner sanctum.”

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There has been no news-report that Putin has, in any way, demoted or otherwise acted against him (far less accuse him of treason) — nor against Ramzan Kadyrov.

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So: how likely is it that this interpretation of the Ukrainian Government’s public statements about the assassination-attempt is correct, true?

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The other (and, in my opinion, far likelier) interpretation is that Putin (and the FSB hierarchy) had saved Zelensky’s life, but had done it in a way that enables Zelensky’s Government to present the matter as having, instead, been a ‘Russian’ attempt to kill him, and therefore as Zelensky’s heroically leading Ukrainians against Russia, and against Putin’s invasion of Zelensky’s country.

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This interpretation makes sense to me because the actual overwhelmingly top source of the assassination-danger to Zelensky has been — not only now, but ever since he became elected — Ukraine’s racist-fascist or nazi anti-Russian forces, which have been demanding that Ukraine invade Donbass, and which have supplied the troops to do it.

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Here is how this danger, the real one, developed, even before Zelensky became President:

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On 13 July 2015, the Ukraine Human Rights organization headlined “BLOODY STRUGGLE FOR POWER IN UKRAINE – RIGHT SECTOR PROVIDES ULTIMATUM TO POROSHENKO” and reported: 

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In the last few days, the Right Sector, under the leadership of Dmitry Yarosh, attempted to assassinate a political personality, as well as tried political storms. Specially in the Western Ukraine city of Mukachevo the situation was worse. The Right Sector continued on Sunday, 12, July 2015, several police cars were set on fire as they tried to murder the member of the Ukrainian Rada (Parliament) Mikhailo Lanyo. Three people were killed (two of them were members of Right Sector) and thirteen injured (four of them were members of Right Sector).

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According to reports, barricades and checkpoints were erected by the “right sector” in several parts of the Ukraine and around Kiev. Around 100 of the right-wing battalions “Azov” and “Aidar” have surrounded the administration building of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry in the central Ukrainian city of Poltava.

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On 27 May 2019, the “Weapon News” website headlined “Yarosh has threatened the new President of Ukraine, Zelensky”, and reported that:

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Verkhovna Rada Deputy and leader of the “Ukrainian volunteer army” (UDA), formed on the basis of the banned-in-Russia “Right sector,” Dmitry Yarosh, said that the new President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky “can lose life if you betray your country and those [of Yarosh’s forces who were] killed in the Donbass”. About this Jarosch said in an interview with “Obozrevatel”:

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“Zelensky in his inaugural speech said that he was ready to lose ratings, popularity, position [by reaching a peaceful settlement with the breakaway Donbass]. No, he will lose his life — will be hanging on some tree on Khreshchatyk, if we betray Ukraine and those people [Yaroshe’s forces] who are in revolution, and the war dead [the Right Sector troops that had been killed fighting against Donbass].”

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The leader of the nationalists said that he had several times tried to contact Zelensky, but wasn’t able to. Yarosh said that he is very willing to drive with the new President to the front, where, in the past five years, he’d told him about the fighting.

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Tatiana Chornovil said that Zelensky is an agent of Yanukovych [the democratically elected President of Ukraine whom the Right Sector had led in overthrowing in February 2014], and called for a new Maidan [a new Presidential overthrow]. The same statement was made by Vice-speaker of the Verkhovna Rada, Paruby.

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On 17 July 2015, I had headlined “THE WHO’S WHO AT THE TOP OF THE COUP”and wrote:

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U.S. President Barack Obama (via his State Department official Victoria Nuland, and Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt) relied chiefly upon Andrei Parubiy (“the Commandant of Maidan”) to be the CEO of the Ukrainian coup in February 2014, and upon Dmitriy Yarosh to be the coup’s COO — its Chief Operating Officer, which in this case was not so much an executive function as a military-organizing function.

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Yarosh subsequently emerged to be the COO of Ukraine’s “ATO” or ‘Anti Terrorist Operation,’ the Government’s operation to eliminate the residents in the areas of Ukraine that had voted 90%+ for the man whom Obama’s coup overthrew: Ukraine’s democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych. (If those residents were to vote in future Ukrainian national elections, then a Ukrainian leader like Yanukovych could easily be elected again; so, eliminating the residents in those areas was essential in order to make Obama’s coup stick.) Yarosh was not only the enforcer during the coup itself, but he became the enforcer in its essential follow-through, the “ATO.” (It’s known also as the war against Donbass, or Ukraine’s civil war, among other names or titles of reference.)

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Yarosh, who has been the top enforcer during the Maidan demonstrations, and throughout the coup, and in its aftermath through to the ongoing Ukrainian war against the ‘Terrorists’ who reject the Obama-imposed regime, has long been considered one of the top racist-fascists, or ideological nazis, in Ukraine; but, until now, no one has presented any serious case that he’s also an anti-Semite (like the original nazi political party, Hitler’s Nazi Party, were); his public racism has instead always been solely against Russians — which type of racism has become far more acceptable to Europeans and to Americans than is anti-Semitism. …

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I previously had headlined about the Russian-hating Yarosh, “Meet Ukraine’s Master Mass-Murderer: Dmitriy Yarosh,” and I described there his key role both during both the February 2014 Ukrainian coup and also the 2 May 2014 massacre of anti-coup demonstrators inside the Odessa Trade Unions Building, as well as in the ongoing ethnic cleansing campaign in Ukraine’s former Donbass region by the regime that Obama, with Yarosh’s key assistance, had brought to power in Ukraine.

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However, I mentioned nothing regarding the possibility of Yarosh’s being not just anti-Russian but also possibly anti-Semitic, because I had found nothing to indicate that he is anti-Semitic, except an alleged transcribed conversation that he had had in Turgenef Restaurant in Kiev on 25 February 2014, which conversation, if it occurred, was held while the February 20-26 coup d’etat that overthrew Yanukovych was ending.

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Like virtually all top Ukrainian politicians have been, Yanukovych was corrupt, but he had been democratically elected with support from 90%+ of Donbass’s voters, and 75% of Odessa’s and Crimea’s — which is the reason why those regions rejected the coup-regime, and which is also the reason why the post-coup Government wants desperately to kill those people.

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Yarosh’s highly trained and disciplined paramilitaries had dressed during the coup as if they were state security troops, and they fired down upon the Maidan demonstrators and police, in what’s called in the trade a “false flag” attack — one that’s designed to appear to have been perpetrated by the side you’re intending to defeat, so as to deceive the public about who had caused the violence and thus get your enemy to be blamed (by your own electorate) for the bloodshed, and thereby unite your country to fear your chosen (typically foreign) enemy and so to be willing to invade them. Adolf Hitler had most prominently pioneered the false-flag technique, both in his burning of the Reichstag, and in his setting up the incident that became his excuse to invade Poland in 1939. Dmitriy Yarosh is a proven master of this craft.

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That conversation, as transcribed, was between Yarosh, who is the head of the Right Sector party, and his friend Oleg Tyagnibok, who, along with Andreiy Parubiy, headed the Social Nationalist Party of Ukraine, which had changed its name in 2004 to the “Freedom” or Svoboda Party, at the suggestion of the U.S. CIA, in order to make its members (the members of Ukraine’s leading nazi party) more acceptable to U.S. and European publics, which (because of WW II) don’t have a favorable opinion of its model: Adolf Hitler’s National Socialist Party of Germany. (However, both the Right Sector party and the Svoboda party are often quite blatant about their admiration of Adolf Hitler and of his Party.) In this alleged conversation, which occurred (if it did) two days prior to Parubiy becoming appointed as the coup-regime’s chief of State Security (the SBU) and Yarosh becoming Parubiy’s #2, Tyagnibok suggested to Yarosh that because EU officials “called me an anti-Semite and a Russophobe,” Yarosh would be a good person to enter the Presidential contest instead of Tyagnibok, but Yarosh said he didn’t want that, because he already had all the weapons and his real aim was to be in the position to control Ukraine backstage by virtue of the Right Sector’s military force that he had trained, organized, and controlled.

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(The major sources of his organization’s funding are unknown, but he must have gotten lots of support from the CIA and associated sources, as well as from billionaires such as George Soros and Ihor Kolomoysky who were big backers of the coup.)

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He said that his objective was that, “my guys have the SBU.” As things turned out afterward, this is precisely what he became, because Parubiy was quite happy to have his militarily more competent subordinate, Yarosh, actually run paramilitary matters: Yarosh had had decades of experience training and commanding paramilitaries.

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As for Parubiy himself, wikipedia notes his key political importance to the Maidan and its aftermath: “He was coordinator of the volunteer security corps for the mainstream protesters.[17] He was then appointed Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine.[6]”

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So: without both Parubiy (the co-head of Ukraine’s main nazi party) as the political coordinator, and Yarosh (the head of the other, more military, of Ukraine’s two nazi parties) as the military coordinator, Obama wouldn’t have been able to do it; but Obama also needed the State Department’s Victoria Nuland, who gave instructions to America’s Ukraine Ambassador Geoffery Pyatt.

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And that’s how the coup was done — plus the CIA, of course, working from the U.S. Embassy.

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So, that is where the real threat to assassinate Zelensky actually comes from.

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This is known to Zelensky. But still the question exists as to WHY Putin would want to protect Zelensky’s life. I think that there is a very reasonable explanation of that:

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As everyone knows, Putin has said and repeated, many times, that his invasion of Ukraine is in order to re-establish Ukraine as being a neutral nation, not as being a potential launch-site for U.S. missiles less than 7-minute-flight-time from nuking Moscow. He doesn’t want U.S. missiles in Ukraine any more than America’s President JFK had wanted Soviet missiles in Cuba only 20-minute flight-time from nuking Washington. So, this is Putin’s way of stopping it from happening (given that both the U.S. and its NATO have refused even so much as to merely considerprohibiting Ukraine from joining NATO).

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But, ever since Obama’s coup grabbing Ukraine in 2014 (in which Yarosh’s forces were used as the leaders], the propaganda against Russia, and against Russians, has been almost as intense in Ukraine, as the propaganda against Jews was in Nazi Germany, and has been very effective.

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For example: During 2003-2009, only around 20% of Ukrainians wanted NATO membership, while around 55% opposed it. In 2010, Gallup found that whereas 17% of Ukrainians considered NATO to mean “protection of your country,” 40% said it’s “a threat to your country.” Ukrainians predominantly saw NATO as an enemy, not a friend. But after Obama’sFebruary 2014 Ukrainian coup, “Ukraine’s NATO membership would get 53.4% of the votes, one third of Ukrainians (33.6%) would oppose it.” That ceaseless and intense post-coup propaganda against Russia had a profound effect.

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Putin therefore knows that he will have no other choice than to retain as much of Ukraine’s existing leadership as will be possible consistent with denazifying that country. Consequently, Zelensky himself would probably be the best person to lead such a restored Ukraine.

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It would free Zelensky from what he knows to be the biggest threat against him — and from what had always been prohibiting him from complying with the Minsk II accords.

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The nazis had always made clear that they’d kill him if he did any such thing. And this is the reason why Putin has protected Zelensky’s life. But, then, the question arises: Did Putin really allow some of his Government’s own forces to be sacrificed, killed, in order to protect Zelensky?

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It would be a small price to pay, for the potential gains that are to be won. Similarly, the anti-nazi U.S. President FDR had sacrificed America’s naval forces at Pearl Harbor in order to be able to get America into WW II in time to become able to prevent Hitler from conquering, ultimately, the entire world. This is the way wars are. And the post-WW-II nazi America had started, even as early as 24 February 1990, to make clear to its vassal-nation leaders that though the Soviet Union and its communism and its Warsaw Pact would soon all end, the Cold War on America’s side would secretly continue until Russia itself becomes conquered. Putin knows this; he has mentioned it often.

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Regarding the post-war Ukraine: The nazi forces in Ukraine come mainly from the country’s far northwest (around Lviv — the city to which America just recently relocated its Ukrainian Embassy), bordering and near to Poland; and, so, that area will probably become a new country, which will be firmly in America’s orbit (the long-term Obama win from all of this). However, as much of Ukraine as is reliably NOT nazi will probably be the country that Zelensky — or whomever is to lead the post-war Ukraine’s Government — will then be leading. Almost certainly, those borders, and those two new parts of the former Ukraine, will be central topics in the negotiations to establish a peaceful Ukraine — unless, of course, Russia loses this war, in which case the entire world will lose, and U.S.-led nazism (the post-WW-II form of nazism) will ultimately end up consuming everyone.

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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s next book (soon to be published) will be AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory, and Why the Social Sciences Need to Change. It’s about how America took over the world after World War II in order to enslave it to U.S.-and-allied billionaires. Their cartels extract the world’s wealth by control of not only their ‘news’ media but the social ‘sciences’ — duping the public.  

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Beelzebub's Side or Putin's Side? 

 

 

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Time difference between none NATO  and NATO countries - then and now:

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I knew this was coming. These people are too white. 
 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/ukrainians-seeking-asylum-denied-entry-us-southern-border-due-covid-19-policy-video/

[divemaster5734]

I can appreciate Ukraine's desire to part of NATO, but they are literally wiping themselves off the map for membership.

Maybe they're expecting massive amounts of cash to be donated by the world to rebuild, and dreaming of all the money the politicians there will siphon off to private banks, but fear of another Russian invasion is NOT one of the issues they are worried about.

They KNOW they brought this on themselves by trying to kill eastern Ukraine with constant random bombings since 2014.

I tend to agree with the colonel.. 

 

 

 

[divemaster5734]

Being a backyard fabricator I wondered what they were doing with all that captured Russian hardware.

Then found this...

 

[divemaster5734]

This video was shot in 2018.

It's a Vice investigative piece.

I never agreed with their left leaning rhetoric, but appreciated their commitment and occasional wisdom.

I'm only bringing this to illustrate the reality of the last 8 years in Ukraine - Russia relationship.

I don't remember seeing anything on the life from the eastern perspective.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, divemaster5734 said:

I tend to agree with the colonel..

I agree so much I had to listen to it twice. 

 

Thanks divemaster5734.

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These guys have been scheming on on Ukraine for a long time. 

[MyLadiesDaddy]

Nations are often referred by to by animals in prophecies, remember there is no Eagle mention in this manner in the Bible. 

https://news.yahoo.com/wild-kremlin-tv-hosts-threaten-113532924.html#aoh=16473833408013&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s

 

Wild Kremlin TV Hosts Threaten the U.S. With Nuclear Strikes Unless Sanctions End and Reparations Are Paid

Julia Davis

March 15, 2022, 6:35 am

SERGEI GUNEYEV

In the surreal world of Russian state television, Russia is about to prevail in its war against Ukraine, which is being presented as a battle against the United States and NATO. According to top Kremlin propagandists, it’s only a matter of time before the West admits its defeat and pays reparations to Moscow or risks a devastating nuclear strike.

Pundits who dared to criticize Russia’s invasion of Ukraine have not been seen on state-controlled television ever since they spoke out last week. Even though their timid disagreement pales in comparison to the bravery of Marina Ovsyannikova, an editor at Channel One, who has been detained after interrupting live programming with an anti-war sign. Meanwhile, state TV broadcasts are filled with cheerleaders, who repeatedly insist that the Kremlin’s “special operation”—known to the rest of the world as a brutal war—should not stop until all objectives are achieved. They insist that everything is going exactly as planned.

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s willingness to negotiate with the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky is being packaged as a sign of his love and good will, and not the consequence of mounting losses and humiliating defeats faced by the Russian military in Ukraine. Appearing on a state TV show Sunday Evening With Vladimir Soloviev, political scientist and Professor of Communications Dmitry Evstafiev argued: “Right now, President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin’s third proposal to the Ukrainian leadership is on the table. This, of course, is a demonstration of his greatest respect and—I would even say—of love by our President towards the Ukrainian people.”

Multiple state TV shows emphasized the reluctance on the part of the United States and NATO to intervene against Russia’s bloody invasion of its neighbor, presenting it as the proof that the Kremlin can go to any lengths to emerge victorious. Olga Skabeeva, the host of a state TV show 60 Minutes, intentionally distorted the statements of White House press secretary Jen Psaki. On Friday, Skabeeva claimed: “Jennifer Psaki’s statement said that no matter what Putin does in Ukraine—whether he uses biological weapons or drops a nuclear bomb—the United States won’t get involved.”

 

On Monday, disregarding strong bipartisan support of Ukraine in the United States, Skabeeva claimed that Americans don’t care about Ukraine and are concerned only with rising gas prices. She alleged: “To the dismay of the State Department, it turned out that Americans are indifferent towards saving Ukrainian Banderites.” Russian state media and government officials have taken to describing any opponents of the Kremlin in Ukraine as or “Banderites,” the followers of Stepan Bandera, the ultranationalist political figure who fought for Ukrainian independence before being assassinated by the KGB in 1959. This expression is being used as indiscriminately as branding all opponents the “Nazis.”

The show proceeded to broadcast a clip of former U.S. President Donald J. Trump, blaming Biden for his alleged inability to communicate with Putin. Hinting at the upcoming presidential elections, Skabeeva sniped: “Fun times for them are only starting. We’re waiting.” In the meantime, state media is replete with baseless promises of wide-ranging concessions from the West that Moscow anticipates receiving in the future.

Appearing on Sunday Evening With Vladimir Soloviev, Russian parliament member Oleg Matveychev, known as the Kremlin’s spin doctor, watched a clip of Fox News’ Tucker Carlson—an everyday occurrence in Moscow’s tightly-controlled media environment. Matveychev noted: “There isn’t a single country in the world that is as easily manipulated as America.” He argued: “Here’s what will be on the table after our victory... After Ukraine’s demilitarization is completed... we’re going to raise the stakes... For example, the lifting of all sanctions... The dissolution of NATO, because the presence of NATO in some countries is getting in our way. Extradition of all war criminals... like [Anton] Herashchenko [former deputy minister at the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs], Zelensky, [former President of Ukraine Petro] Poroshenko. Extradition of various oligarchs, like [Mikhail] Khodorkovsky.”

In recent days, Russian state television regressed from Orwellian lies to Kafkaesque nightmares, as pundits started to promote the idea of executing Ukrainians resisting Putin’s war of aggression by hanging. They noted that the so-called “constitution” of the rogue “republics” created in Ukraine by Russian forces conveniently allows for the death penalty. Last Thursday on The Evening With Vladimir Soloviev, after listening to other pundits and experts endorse the idea of executing Ukrainian citizens by hanging, doctor of political sciences Elena G. Ponomareva argued: "Never let morality prevent you from undertaking correct actions. I understand the importance of a humanitarian component... but morality shouldn't get in the way."

Sunday’s Vesti Nedeli hosted by Dmitry Kiselyov continued the theme of public hangings, broadcasting the scenes from the public execution of German Nazi soldiers on Kyiv’s Independence Square in 1946. The segment was entitled “Denazification of Ukraine—the new opportunities for growth” and appeared to serve as a tool to desensitize the Russian population for the grotesque war trials and executions the Kremlin is reportedly planning to conduct in Ukraine, perhaps in the same public square captured in the historical video.

Bloomberg previously reported that, according to an unnamed European intelligence official, Russia's intelligence agency, the Federal Security Service, has drafted plans for public executions in Ukraine after cities are captured. Russian state media appears to be laying the groundwork to normalize such an idea, in order to make it seem acceptable to average Russians.

Reciting the list of Russia’s future demands during Soloviev’s show, Matveychev became even more brazen: “We should be thinking about reparations from the damage that was caused by the sanctions and the war itself, because that too costs money and we should get it back. The return of all Russian properties, those of the Russian empire, the Soviet Union and current Russia, which has been seized in the United States, and so on.”

The host chimed in to ask: “Are you including Alaska and Fort Ross?”

Matveychev nodded: “That was my next point. As well as the Antarctic... We discovered it, so it belongs to us... Also, the return of all medals that have been unlawfully taken from our sportsmen during all Olympic games, as well as the extradition of [Grigory] Rodchenkov, along with the extradition of multiple other criminals we’ll want. I think we should start voicing all of that, so they understand what will be on the table. You didn’t want to talk to us about something small, like Ukraine’s neutrality, here’s what you get. And that’s not even all of it.”

Soloviev asked: “Does your list include a tactical nuclear strike, or are we going straight for the strategic one?”

Matveychev pompously scoffed, “What for? We can take them down without it.”

On Monday, Soloviev revisited the topic of nuclear blackmail, perhaps blinded by rage after the recent seizure of his two Italian villas. He said: “I still think that those who took our money should be told, you have 24 hours to unfreeze our funds, or else we’ll send you what you know we’ve got. Your choice. Tactical or strategic, take a pick. You took our money, you’re the thieves, our talk is short with you: a bullet to the head."

[MyLadiesDaddy]

As a result of the American government using the SWIFT system in a pathetic attempt to control Russia 🇷🇺 ,several nations are beginning to ask themselves could they be next? 

Last weekend The Saudis refused to take a phone call from Biden and today we hear this. America's Superpower status is over as long as Americans allow the Obama/Biden administration to stand. 

 

 

 

 

 

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[MyLadiesDaddy]

If you still think that these events aren't a coordinated attack on the dollar and Americans superpower position by our government,  and every world power, then ask yourself why is everyone reading from the same script?

 

 

 

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Wouldn't this be interesting?:

 

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