Markinsa Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Who Abandoned Bagram Air Base? Biden says the military, but the military says he gave them little choice. By The Editorial Board Aug. 27, 2021 6:52 pm ET An Afghan policeman stands guard inside Bagram US air base after all US and NATO troops left on July 5. PHOTO: WAKIL KOHSAR/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES The terrorist threat to U.S. troops, civilians and Afghans continues to loom over the frantic evacuation of Kabul airport. Thursday’s suicide bombing, which killed 13 Americans and nearly 200 Afghans, has been claimed by an Islamic State affiliate, which is plotting more. Why are American troops in such a difficult-to-defend position? The evacuation is taking place at an urban airport with a civilian wing, and perimeter security is being provided, unbelievably, by the Taliban. Only about 40 miles away is Bagram airfield, the military base that the U.S. vacated in the dead of night in July, without even warning America’s Afghan allies. President Biden on Thursday essentially blamed his generals for the Bagram pullout. “They concluded—the military—that Bagram was not much value added, that it was much wiser to focus on Kabul,” he said. “And so, I followed that recommendation.” What Mr. Biden neglected to mention is that the President sets the constraints under which the military draws up plans and evaluates options. At a briefing last week, General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that securing Bagram took “a significant level of military effort,” and “our task given to us at that time, our task was to protect the Embassy in order for the Embassy personnel to continue to function.” As a result, he added, “we had to collapse one or the other.” When the decision was made, which was long before the Afghan government fell, the military thought using Kabul airport did not entail substantially higher risk. That option was judged, Gen. Milley said, “to be the better tactical solution in accordance with the mission set we were given and in accordance with getting the troops down to about 600, 700 number.” On a call Friday with Members of Congress, a military briefer also elaborated on the White House line that the Pentagon made Mr. Biden do it. The briefer said the President’s order was to leave the country, and the military had to secure the Embassy. That mission of withdrawal was Mr. Biden’s bad call, and his generals sought to make it work. Gen. Milley told Congress in June: “Bagram is not necessary, tactically or operationally, for what we’re going to try to do here with Afghanistan—consolidate on Kabul in support of their government.” Obviously the Afghans didn’t get the support they needed. The way U.S. forces quietly slipped out of Bagram was also demoralizing for the Afghan army and probably contributed to its collapse. The Associated Press spoke to soldiers wandering the base the next day. “They lost all the goodwill of 20 years,” one said, “by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area.” The word must have spread: If the U.S. is abandoning its prized air base, then it really was bugging out altogether. After the collapse of the Afghan government, Mr. Biden could have sent in enough U.S. troops to retake Bagram and provide for a safer evacuation. He declined that option in favor of getting to the exits as fast as possible, hoping to avoid a confrontation with the Taliban that could result in American casualties. On Thursday he got casualties anyway. The wreck of Mr. Biden’s Afghan withdrawal is damaging enough. But he compounds the harm to his credibility, and America’s, when he refuses to acknowledge mistakes and spins defeat as a victory for realism. Mr. Biden should take responsibility for his own bad decisions, instead of trying to hide behind the military brass. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Orange man bad. Trumps fault. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Markinsa said: Who Abandoned Bagram Air Base? Biden says the military, but the military says he gave them little choice. By The Editorial Board Aug. 27, 2021 6:52 pm ET An Afghan policeman stands guard inside Bagram US air base after all US and NATO troops left on July 5. PHOTO: WAKIL KOHSAR/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES The terrorist threat to U.S. troops, civilians and Afghans continues to loom over the frantic evacuation of Kabul airport. Thursday’s suicide bombing, which killed 13 Americans and nearly 200 Afghans, has been claimed by an Islamic State affiliate, which is plotting more. Why are American troops in such a difficult-to-defend position? The evacuation is taking place at an urban airport with a civilian wing, and perimeter security is being provided, unbelievably, by the Taliban. Only about 40 miles away is Bagram airfield, the military base that the U.S. vacated in the dead of night in July, without even warning America’s Afghan allies. President Biden on Thursday essentially blamed his generals for the Bagram pullout. “They concluded—the military—that Bagram was not much value added, that it was much wiser to focus on Kabul,” he said. “And so, I followed that recommendation.” What Mr. Biden neglected to mention is that the President sets the constraints under which the military draws up plans and evaluates options. At a briefing last week, General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that securing Bagram took “a significant level of military effort,” and “our task given to us at that time, our task was to protect the Embassy in order for the Embassy personnel to continue to function.” As a result, he added, “we had to collapse one or the other.” When the decision was made, which was long before the Afghan government fell, the military thought using Kabul airport did not entail substantially higher risk. That option was judged, Gen. Milley said, “to be the better tactical solution in accordance with the mission set we were given and in accordance with getting the troops down to about 600, 700 number.” On a call Friday with Members of Congress, a military briefer also elaborated on the White House line that the Pentagon made Mr. Biden do it. The briefer said the President’s order was to leave the country, and the military had to secure the Embassy. That mission of withdrawal was Mr. Biden’s bad call, and his generals sought to make it work. Gen. Milley told Congress in June: “Bagram is not necessary, tactically or operationally, for what we’re going to try to do here with Afghanistan—consolidate on Kabul in support system" rel="">support of their government.” Obviously the Afghans didn’t get the support system" rel="">support they needed. The way U.S. forces quietly slipped out of Bagram was also demoralizing for the Afghan army and probably contributed to its collapse. The Associated Press spoke to soldiers wandering the base the next day. “They lost all the goodwill of 20 years,” one said, “by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area.” The word must have spread: If the U.S. is abandoning its prized air base, then it really was bugging out altogether. After the collapse of the Afghan government, Mr. Biden could have sent in enough U.S. troops to retake Bagram and provide for a safer evacuation. He declined that option in favor of getting to the exits as fast as possible, hoping to avoid a confrontation with the Taliban that could result in American casualties. On Thursday he got casualties anyway. The wreck of Mr. Biden’s Afghan withdrawal is damaging enough. But he compounds the harm to his credibility, and America’s, when he refuses to acknowledge mistakes and spins defeat as a victory for realism. Mr. Biden should take responsibility for his own bad decisions, instead of trying to hide behind the military brass. Biden is supposed to be the Commander in Chief.....it's all on him.....like it or not.... CL 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 'I Demand Accountability': Marine Speaks Out About Afghanistan Disaster 325,602 views Aug 27, 2021 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 10:17 PM, yota691 said: 'I Demand Accountability': Marine Speaks Out About Afghanistan Disaster 325,602 views Aug 27, 2021 So far this is the only guy who was demoted in the whole Afganistan fiasco....the guy who spoke the truth..... Kind of telling isn't it? CL 2 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickgold Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, coorslite21 said: So far this is the only guy who was demoted in the whole Afganistan fiasco....the guy who spoke the truth..... Kind of telling isn't it? CL Biden, his action were deliberately done. I commend this Marine for his outspoken action. 2 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcurl Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 4:14 PM, Markinsa said: Who Abandoned Bagram Air Base? Biden says the military, but the military says he gave them little choice. By The Editorial Board Aug. 27, 2021 6:52 pm ET An Afghan policeman stands guard inside Bagram US air base after all US and NATO troops left on July 5. PHOTO: WAKIL KOHSAR/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES The terrorist threat to U.S. troops, civilians and Afghans continues to loom over the frantic evacuation of Kabul airport. Thursday’s suicide bombing, which killed 13 Americans and nearly 200 Afghans, has been claimed by an Islamic State affiliate, which is plotting more. Why are American troops in such a difficult-to-defend position? The evacuation is taking place at an urban airport with a civilian wing, and perimeter security is being provided, unbelievably, by the Taliban. Only about 40 miles away is Bagram airfield, the military base that the U.S. vacated in the dead of night in July, without even warning America’s Afghan allies. President Biden on Thursday essentially blamed his generals for the Bagram pullout. “They concluded—the military—that Bagram was not much value added, that it was much wiser to focus on Kabul,” he said. “And so, I followed that recommendation.” What Mr. Biden neglected to mention is that the President sets the constraints under which the military draws up plans and evaluates options. At a briefing last week, General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that securing Bagram took “a significant level of military effort,” and “our task given to us at that time, our task was to protect the Embassy in order for the Embassy personnel to continue to function.” As a result, he added, “we had to collapse one or the other.” When the decision was made, which was long before the Afghan government fell, the military thought using Kabul airport did not entail substantially higher risk. That option was judged, Gen. Milley said, “to be the better tactical solution in accordance with the mission set we were given and in accordance with getting the troops down to about 600, 700 number.” On a call Friday with Members of Congress, a military briefer also elaborated on the White House line that the Pentagon made Mr. Biden do it. The briefer said the President’s order was to leave the country, and the military had to secure the Embassy. That mission of withdrawal was Mr. Biden’s bad call, and his generals sought to make it work. Gen. Milley told Congress in June: “Bagram is not necessary, tactically or operationally, for what we’re going to try to do here with Afghanistan—consolidate on Kabul in support system" rel="">support of their government.” Obviously the Afghans didn’t get the support system" rel="">support they needed. The way U.S. forces quietly slipped out of Bagram was also demoralizing for the Afghan army and probably contributed to its collapse. The Associated Press spoke to soldiers wandering the base the next day. “They lost all the goodwill of 20 years,” one said, “by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area.” The word must have spread: If the U.S. is abandoning its prized air base, then it really was bugging out altogether. After the collapse of the Afghan government, Mr. Biden could have sent in enough U.S. troops to retake Bagram and provide for a safer evacuation. He declined that option in favor of getting to the exits as fast as possible, hoping to avoid a confrontation with the Taliban that could result in American casualties. On Thursday he got casualties anyway. The wreck of Mr. Biden’s Afghan withdrawal is damaging enough. But he compounds the harm to his credibility, and America’s, when he refuses to acknowledge mistakes and spins defeat as a victory for realism. Mr. Biden should take responsibility for his own bad decisions, instead of trying to hide behind the military brass. DELIBERATE and or INTENTIONAL are the only words that I can use to describe this act of treason ............ IMO - Joke Biden aided in the overthrow and or coup of the existing government in Afghanistan. Just sayin' ....................... Semper Fi RV there yet ? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 I am more interested )besides other things) in finding out who in the DoD aided and abetted the Taliban in the attack on our Marines. That is text book treason. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hotcurl Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 4:14 PM, Markinsa said: Who Abandoned Bagram Air Base? Biden says the military, but the military says he gave them little choice. By The Editorial Board Aug. 27, 2021 6:52 pm ET An Afghan policeman stands guard inside Bagram US air base after all US and NATO troops left on July 5. PHOTO: WAKIL KOHSAR/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES The terrorist threat to U.S. troops, civilians and Afghans continues to loom over the frantic evacuation of Kabul airport. Thursday’s suicide bombing, which killed 13 Americans and nearly 200 Afghans, has been claimed by an Islamic State affiliate, which is plotting more. Why are American troops in such a difficult-to-defend position? The evacuation is taking place at an urban airport with a civilian wing, and perimeter security is being provided, unbelievably, by the Taliban. Only about 40 miles away is Bagram airfield, the military base that the U.S. vacated in the dead of night in July, without even warning America’s Afghan allies. President Biden on Thursday essentially blamed his generals for the Bagram pullout. “They concluded—the military—that Bagram was not much value added, that it was much wiser to focus on Kabul,” he said. “And so, I followed that recommendation.” What Mr. Biden neglected to mention is that the President sets the constraints under which the military draws up plans and evaluates options. At a briefing last week, General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that securing Bagram took “a significant level of military effort,” and “our task given to us at that time, our task was to protect the Embassy in order for the Embassy personnel to continue to function.” As a result, he added, “we had to collapse one or the other.” When the decision was made, which was long before the Afghan government fell, the military thought using Kabul airport did not entail substantially higher risk. That option was judged, Gen. Milley said, “to be the better tactical solution in accordance with the mission set we were given and in accordance with getting the troops down to about 600, 700 number.” On a call Friday with Members of Congress, a military briefer also elaborated on the White House line that the Pentagon made Mr. Biden do it. The briefer said the President’s order was to leave the country, and the military had to secure the Embassy. That mission of withdrawal was Mr. Biden’s bad call, and his generals sought to make it work. Gen. Milley told Congress in June: “Bagram is not necessary, tactically or operationally, for what we’re going to try to do here with Afghanistan—consolidate on Kabul in support system" rel="">support of their government.” Obviously the Afghans didn’t get the support system" rel="">support they needed. The way U.S. forces quietly slipped out of Bagram was also demoralizing for the Afghan army and probably contributed to its collapse. The Associated Press spoke to soldiers wandering the base the next day. “They lost all the goodwill of 20 years,” one said, “by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area.” The word must have spread: If the U.S. is abandoning its prized air base, then it really was bugging out altogether. After the collapse of the Afghan government, Mr. Biden could have sent in enough U.S. troops to retake Bagram and provide for a safer evacuation. He declined that option in favor of getting to the exits as fast as possible, hoping to avoid a confrontation with the Taliban that could result in American casualties. On Thursday he got casualties anyway. The wreck of Mr. Biden’s Afghan withdrawal is damaging enough. But he compounds the harm to his credibility, and America’s, when he refuses to acknowledge mistakes and spins defeat as a victory for realism. Mr. Biden should take responsibility for his own bad decisions, instead of trying to hide behind the military brass. Bump to the top .............. This is the tip of the Iceberg, IMO ............ Semper Fi RV there yet ? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcurl Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 4:14 PM, Markinsa said: Who Abandoned Bagram Air Base? Biden says the military, but the military says he gave them little choice. By The Editorial Board Aug. 27, 2021 6:52 pm ET An Afghan policeman stands guard inside Bagram US air base after all US and NATO troops left on July 5. PHOTO: WAKIL KOHSAR/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES The terrorist threat to U.S. troops, civilians and Afghans continues to loom over the frantic evacuation of Kabul airport. Thursday’s suicide bombing, which killed 13 Americans and nearly 200 Afghans, has been claimed by an Islamic State affiliate, which is plotting more. Why are American troops in such a difficult-to-defend position? The evacuation is taking place at an urban airport with a civilian wing, and perimeter security is being provided, unbelievably, by the Taliban. Only about 40 miles away is Bagram airfield, the military base that the U.S. vacated in the dead of night in July, without even warning America’s Afghan allies. President Biden on Thursday essentially blamed his generals for the Bagram pullout. “They concluded—the military—that Bagram was not much value added, that it was much wiser to focus on Kabul,” he said. “And so, I followed that recommendation.” What Mr. Biden neglected to mention is that the President sets the constraints under which the military draws up plans and evaluates options. At a briefing last week, General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that securing Bagram took “a significant level of military effort,” and “our task given to us at that time, our task was to protect the Embassy in order for the Embassy personnel to continue to function.” As a result, he added, “we had to collapse one or the other.” When the decision was made, which was long before the Afghan government fell, the military thought using Kabul airport did not entail substantially higher risk. That option was judged, Gen. Milley said, “to be the better tactical solution in accordance with the mission set we were given and in accordance with getting the troops down to about 600, 700 number.” On a call Friday with Members of Congress, a military briefer also elaborated on the White House line that the Pentagon made Mr. Biden do it. The briefer said the President’s order was to leave the country, and the military had to secure the Embassy. That mission of withdrawal was Mr. Biden’s bad call, and his generals sought to make it work. Gen. Milley told Congress in June: “Bagram is not necessary, tactically or operationally, for what we’re going to try to do here with Afghanistan—consolidate on Kabul in support system" rel="">support of their government.” Obviously the Afghans didn’t get the support system" rel="">support they needed. The way U.S. forces quietly slipped out of Bagram was also demoralizing for the Afghan army and probably contributed to its collapse. The Associated Press spoke to soldiers wandering the base the next day. “They lost all the goodwill of 20 years,” one said, “by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area.” The word must have spread: If the U.S. is abandoning its prized air base, then it really was bugging out altogether. After the collapse of the Afghan government, Mr. Biden could have sent in enough U.S. troops to retake Bagram and provide for a safer evacuation. He declined that option in favor of getting to the exits as fast as possible, hoping to avoid a confrontation with the Taliban that could result in American casualties. On Thursday he got casualties anyway. The wreck of Mr. Biden’s Afghan withdrawal is damaging enough. But he compounds the harm to his credibility, and America’s, when he refuses to acknowledge mistakes and spins defeat as a victory for realism. Mr. Biden should take responsibility for his own bad decisions, instead of trying to hide behind the military brass. Bump to the top ............................. I'm trying to keep the SPOT Light on the Joke Biden Administration's FAILED foreign policy in Afghanistan and reminding everyone of its disastrous effects thru out the world. In my opinion, the disastrous exit from Afghanistan was deliberate and intentional thus supporting to COUP and OVERTHROW of the existing government and allowing the Taliban to claim authority. Just sayin' .................. Semper Fi RV there yet ? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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