TinBadge Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosterbglee Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Our west coast states will be next! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 And to think we had young men and women dying saving their sorry *sses twice, one in WW1 and again in WW2 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, boosterbglee said: Our west coast states will be next! In some states yes, you are correct. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinBadge Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 I just see nazis Going from person to person asking for papers!! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage449 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Colorado has/is contemplating this move. One restaurant doing vax check before seat/serve you. Fill out a card with name etc on "honor" system that you're vaxed. Won't eat there again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Police cant even ask you for an ID unless they have reasonable suspicion you have committed a crime. No way they can ask for a vaccine card legally 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEP01 Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 That's correct... But they are very well trained on what they can get away with... Just look at the DUI, DWI, Etc... puppy mill, affording the local police. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEP01 Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Wheels on the bus go round and round.... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinBadge Posted August 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, MEP01 said: That's correct... But they are very well trained on what they can get away with... Just look at the DUI, DWI, Etc... puppy mill, affording the local police. 42 minutes ago, SocalDinar said: Police cant even ask you for an ID unless they have reasonable suspicion you have committed a crime. No way they can ask for a vaccine card legally Probable Cause (PC) is very thin. A flickering tail light is enough PC to pull you over. So let’s say you walk through the door, this means you are vac’ed and are allowed in. So there is your PC. Don’t believe me. How’s a drivers lic work? A cop sees you park a car. Maybe you were a little erratic at the parking of said car so the cop can I see your DL. The PC is simply stated in the report as the car did not appear to be under proper control!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb57 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 16 hours ago, TinBadge said: Probable Cause (PC) is very thin. A flickering tail light is enough PC to pull you over. So let’s say you walk through the door, this means you are vac’ed and are allowed in. So there is your PC. Don’t believe me. How’s a drivers lic work? A cop sees you park a car. Maybe you were a little erratic at the parking of said car so the cop can I see your DL. The PC is simply stated in the report as the car did not appear to be under proper control!! Kind of hard to prove probable cause in a crowded restaurant full of people with cameras. I for one would show it to a restaurant owner because they are not at fault wanting to follow the rules to stay in business but no way in hell i would show it to an officer. I would rather go to jail and get in front of a judge. And of course take legal action if my rights are violated. Put your license and ID in your top pocket. Let the officer know where it is and they can take it if he is willing to violate your rights. Of course film it. Ask for a supervisor. When driving its fairly easy for them to come up with and excuse for an infraction. I really hate it when the police violate parking rules especially when on their lunch breaks. I will confront them when i see this. Its not do as i say... Not as I do. I even had one officer get smart with me saying my stock truck's windows truck tint was to dark. WT heck? Pulled out my camera and starting filming. as soon as the camera came out he immediately walked away. Don't get me wrong i do respect law enforcement and thank many officers for their service. But I know my rights and will defend them against any tyrant. Eating in a restaurant is not suspicious and even if it was acting suspicious is not a crime and not probable cause If no ID is needed to vote then I sure as heck am not going to show it to eat. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Mtn. Dinar Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cws Posted August 21, 2021 Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Smokey Mtn. Dinar said: All right out of the nazi playbook….. Oh you mean that’s happening now??? My Bad 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinBadge Posted August 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 My partners wife just came back from Louisiana. She said everywhere she went she had to show ID and a vac card. Like all stores, bar and restaurants. Everybody in the French quarter was all about the vac’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 16 hours ago, TinBadge said: Everybody in the French quarter was all about the vac’ Doesn't matter, inside of 2 years it'll be a Ghost town. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis411 Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 In Ontario here so many places stating no vaccine no job no school no entry its only the start gonna have a bar code inked into your for head to go anywhere for them to scan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinBadge Posted August 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 10:02 AM, SocalDinar said: Kind of hard to prove probable cause in a crowded restaurant full of people with cameras. I for one would show it to a restaurant owner because they are not at fault wanting to follow the rules to stay in business but no way in hell i would show it to an officer. I would rather go to jail and get in front of a judge. And of course take legal action if my rights are violated. Put your license and ID in your top pocket. Let the officer know where it is and they can take it if he is willing to violate your rights. Of course film it. Ask for a supervisor. When driving its fairly easy for them to come up with and excuse for an infraction. I really hate it when the police violate parking rules especially when on their lunch breaks. I will confront them when i see this. Its not do as i say... Not as I do. I even had one officer get smart with me saying my stock truck's windows truck tint was to dark. WT heck? Pulled out my camera and starting filming. as soon as the camera came out he immediately walked away. Don't get me wrong i do respect law enforcement and thank many officers for their service. But I know my rights and will defend them against any tyrant. Eating in a restaurant is not suspicious and even if it was acting suspicious is not a crime and not probable cause If no ID is needed to vote then I sure as heck am not going to show it to eat. I like your passion but if the ****-tater make it a law to have the vac card to be inside a building then it will allow the local (federal police) to demand to see your papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, TinBadge said: I like your passion but if the ****-tater make it a law to have the vac card to be inside a building then it will allow the local (federal police) to demand to see your papers. They would need to repeal the 4th amendment in order to make that law. Not gonna happen . The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Edited August 23, 2021 by SocalDinar 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinBadge Posted August 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, SocalDinar said: They would need to repeal the 4th amendment in order to make that law. Not gonna happen . The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. And yet we have Governors forcing their populations to get the vac. People are afraid to stand up for themselves, or more likely they don’t know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis411 Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 7 hours ago, SocalDinar said: 21 hours ago, TinBadge said: They would need to repeal the 4th amendment in order to make that law. Not gonna happe Better watch its happening USA https://ca.yahoo.com/news/2-york-judges-ordered-defendants-121654637.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinBadge Posted August 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, davis411 said: Better watch its happening USA https://ca.yahoo.com/news/2-york-judges-ordered-defendants-121654637.html 2nd and 4th doesn’t mean anything to these people. Put your **** footballs down and figure out what’s going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis411 Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 https://ca.yahoo.com/news/b-c-announces-covid-19-143418981.html bc in Canada you will require a pass port be ready mid sept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 I personally will never show my ID to an officer without probable cause. And I will not answer any questions either. Sad truth is that this will hurt an industry that has been crippled by these insane lockdowns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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