miraj Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Thought provoking, respectful dialogue will only get you disparaged on a personal level by a certain subset of active posters, as maintaining any sense of reasonable debate form waved bye bye to them some time back deteriorating a once robust part of DV. I commend you for putting an honest effort forth, as useless as it will surely turn out to be. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV Thank you. I have discovered that rather rapidly since I came out to play 🙂 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickgold Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, coorslite21 said: And you trust the MSM fact checkers? ....CL Those who are blinded will believe the false and phony fact checkers all the time. They can't comprehend that the false fact checkers could be false, in turn it's believable. If they watched the hearing on Arizona they would of have the actual facts in front of them. If you keep reading or watching MSM you will be fed a false narrative so believable that it's truth to you. They're lots of false fact checkers our there, do due diligence before posting. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, miraj said: Not your "Brother"..nor am I holy. I only have one account and this is the same account I have had for over 12 years. Frown if you wish but it is not necessary. Enjoy your day. Neither was your alter ego. Or his alter ego, kev. Silly Liberals, Tricks are for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraj Posted July 19, 2021 Report Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: Neither was your alter ego. Or his alter ego, kev. Silly Liberals, Tricks are for kids. Well now, you could not resist could you.🙂 I can see you are not very creative, but you keep trying, I will give you that. You should try something different other than sophomoric humor, you are a little old for that. Maybe take up Improv, or self deprecating. It is more in line with your nature. Be safe. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraj Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 You have a huge fan club ... I should have been here sooner 😪 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 I thought there was supposed to be a Kraken released?🦖………..I must have missed it!😂😂😂 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shabibilicious Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Trump slams Arizona Senate Republican who said Maricopa audit 'makes us look like idiots' Daniel Chaitin Thu, July 22, 2021, 7:28 PM Former President Donald Trump chastised an Arizona Republican who said the chamber's controversial audit of the 2020 election in Maricopa County "makes us look like idiots." A message issued through Trump's Save America PAC on Thursday singled out state Sen. Paul Boyer, calling him a "RINO," which stands for Republican in Name Only, and offering praise to his primary challenger. "Republican Arizona State Senator Paul Boyer, a RINO if there ever was one, is doing everything in his power to hold up the damning Forensic Audit of Maricopa County which has been taking place over the last 90 days. The people of Arizona are demanding it," Trump said. "Boyer has been nothing but trouble, and nobody knows why. All we demand is Voter Integrity! He is being primaried by a strong and highly respected challenger, former Arizona State Representative Anthony Kern." Kern, a candidate for the 2022 midterm elections, thanked Trump on Twitter for the statement. Boyer also responded with a snarky tweet, alluding to the southern border, reports the auditors were looking for bamboo fibers from China in ballots, and the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. "Had Trump built the wall like he promised, perhaps he could’ve prevented the 40k #BambooBallots from being imported into Arizona," he said in a tweet, inserting a laughing emoji. "And if he hadn’t started an insurrection in D.C. and gotten kicked off here, I could’ve responded directly to him. So there’s that." After courts rejected several lawsuits challenging the 2020 results in Arizona and other states Trump lost, the former president and his allies have turned their attention to the GOP-led Arizona Senate audit in Maricopa County, touting it as an inspection that could support their claims of widespread fraud or irregularities. ARIZONA ATTORNEY GENERAL RECEIVES RECORDS ON 'POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS' OF ELECTION LAWS President Joe Biden won Arizona and its 11 electoral votes by more than 10,000 votes out of the 3.3 million across the state. His lead of roughly 2 percentage points was due partly to his advantage in Maricopa County, where the Democrat scored nearly 45,000 more votes than Trump among roughly 2.1 million ballots cast. Biden was the first Democratic presidential candidate to win the Southwestern state since President Bill Clinton captured it in 1996. Maricopa County officials, who have said the auditors are incompetent and refuse to cooperate fully with the review, previously authorized two election machine audits that found no irregularities in the county's 2020 election. There was also a hand recount of a statistical sample of ballots that did not turn up any problems. Boyer, a Republican from the Phoenix suburbs, was quoted in a New York Times report in May lamenting the audit had become the focus of a political maelstrom, as critics panned the contracted auditors and processes of the partisan review. “It makes us look like idiots,” Boyer said. “Looking back, I didn’t think it would be this ridiculous. It’s embarrassing to be a state senator at this point." Maricopa County officials announced last month voting machines subpoenaed for the audit would be removed from service after Arizona's Democratic secretary of state, Katie Hobbs, threatened to decertify the equipment, citing concerns with the methods of Cyber Ninjas, a Florida-based firm hired to lead the review. The U.S. Justice Department has also signaled it may take action against the audit. CLICK HERE TO READ MORE FROM THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER Arizona Senate President Karen Fann says the audit is not about overturning the election but rather finding problems that could be addressed in election-focused legislation. Still, some in her caucus, including state Sen. Wendy Rogers, have called for recalling the state's electors even before the audit is completed and its final findings are released. State Senate Majority Whip Sonny Borrelli floated the possibility of introducing a resolution to “reclaim electors” if the audit's findings put Biden’s 2020 election victory in doubt. Although audit officials predicted the audit would conclude by the end of the summer, testimony last week before the Arizona Senate indicated it could be drawn out if their request for more materials and information leads to subpoenas. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-slams-arizona-senate-republican-232800677.html GO RV, then BV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Trump's PAC has spent no money on ballot audits as he pushes his election fraud claims, but has funded his flights and other personal expenses, report says Tom Porter Fri, July 23, 2021, 6:30 AM Former U.S. President Donald Trump leaves Trump Tower in Manhattan on July 19, 2021 in New York City. James Devaney/GC Images Trump's PAC has spent none of the $75 million it raised on election reviews, Washington Post reports. Trump has falsely claimed the election was stolen, but isn't putting money behind proving the claim. Election reviews in Arizona and Georgia are being funded by private donors - but not Trump's PAC. See more stories on Insider's business page. A PAC formed by former President Donald Trump to fund his attempt to challenge last year's presidential election result has not spent any money on audits or other election review measures, The Washington Post reported. The Save America leadership PAC was founded last year as Trump pushed his "big lie" that last year's election was stolen from him as a result of an elaborate plot by Democrats. The PAC, which has few legal limits on how it can spend its money, raised $75 million. Sources familiar with the PAC's finances told the Post that barely any of the money has been spent, apart from a small portion that has been used for some of Trump's travel and legal expenses, and to pay staff. According to the sources, none of the money has been channeled into concrete attempts to challenge last year's election result, such as the ballot audit being conducted in Arizona's Maricopa county. While Trump has issued statements in support of the ballot audit in Arizona, and attempts by other GOP legislatures to cast doubt on the integrity of last year's election, none of the money from his PAC war chest has been used to support the reviews, the Post reports. The deadline for the PAC to make its public financial statements in compliance with federal laws is July 31. Insider has contacted a Trump spokesperson for comment, but is yet to receive a response. Arizona's audit - which has been characterized as a shambolic partisan stunt by county election officials - is being partly funded by Arizona taxpayers and partly by private donations. A lawsuit seeking to launch a similar election review in Fulton County, Georgia, is also being funded by private donations. The PAC has continued to fundraise mainly by appealing to donors to fund the campaign to ensure election integrity. Trump's election fraud claims were defeated, or thrown out, in a series of court cases last year and twice refused a hearing in the US Supreme Court. He has continued to push them, however, despite the conspiracy theory inciting supporters to attack the Capitol on January 6, amid he rumours he is gearing up for another presidential bid in 2024. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-pac-spent-no-money-103019150.html GO RV, then BV 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 @Shabibilicious You know those two guys on the right in the video above are CPA's and Professional Auditors. The guy in the middle was actually a Partner for Deloitte and Touche. The same firm that audits the company I work for. If you haven't listened to them you should. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Markinsa said: @Shabibilicious You know those two guys on the right in the video above are CPA's and Professional Auditors. The guy in the middle was actually a Partner for Deloitte and Touche. The same firm that audits the company I work for. If you haven't listened to them you should. Are they election auditors? GO RV, then BV 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Shabibilicious said: Are they election auditors? GO RV, then BV An auditor is an auditor. The basics and principles of audits are all the same. . 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Markinsa said: An auditor is an auditor. The basics and principles of audits are all the same. . No offense, but that's like saying a guy who's meticulous with his lawn care is qualified to be head greenskeeper at Augusta CC. GO RV, then BV 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Markinsa said: An auditor is an auditor. The basics and principles of audits are all the same. . Let's be honest, Deloitte has been in business for over a century, sounds like they are very reputable.....Why wouldn't the Arizona GOP hire a company like them to do their election audit and bring some validity to the process.....they didn't take bids after all? GO RV, then BV 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: No offense, but that's like saying a guy who's meticulous with his lawn care is qualified to be head greenskeeper at Augusta CC. GO RV, then BV You have to have advanced experience to become a Partner in a firm like that. I'm sure they are more than qualified to determine if the AZ Audit was being performed correctly. 46 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Let's be honest, Deloitte has been in business for over a century, sounds like they are very reputable.....Why wouldn't the Arizona GOP hire a company like them to do their election audit and bring some validity to the process.....they didn't take bids after all? GO RV, then BV While the basics and principles are the same, there are divisions in each company that specialize auditing different companies, for instance, auditing an Oil and Gas Company is different than auditing a Bank or other financial institutions. Perhaps these Big Accounting Audit companies either declined or didn't have the expertise that the AZ Auditors have? . 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Markinsa said: Perhaps these Big Accounting Audit companies either declined or didn't have the expertise that the AZ Auditors have? GO RV, then BV Edited July 23, 2021 by Shabibilicious 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: GO RV, then BV Do you deny that many Law Firms refuse to represent people who support President Trump? Perhaps that same attitude is present in the Auditing firms as well? . 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Markinsa said: Do you deny that many Law Firms refuse to represent people who support system">support President Trump? Perhaps that same attitude is present in the Auditing firms as well? . All I ask is that the audit company be completely qualified for election audits and that there is no bias within it's ranks....especially not at the CEO level. Makes the whole audit a farce....Why wouldn't they want a completely nonbiased firm doing the audit?....makes no sense, unless they have less than truthful desires. GO RV, then BV Edited July 23, 2021 by Shabibilicious 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: All I ask is that the audit company be completely qualified for election audits and that there is no bias within it's ranks....especially not at the CEO level. Makes the whole audit a farce....Why wouldn't they want a completely nonbiased firm doing the audit?....makes no sense, unless they have less than truthful desires. GO RV, then BV If the Firms doing that Audit present the evidence, everyone will have the opportunity to debunk it. They've supposedly done a very good job of documenting what they have done, and will be able to support their findings. How is that not unbiased? Meanwhile, you have the AZ Election Commission and the SoS fighting tooth and nail to prevent the audit and provide support. Makes you wonder what's really wrong with their counts. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Markinsa said: If the Firms doing that Audit present the evidence, everyone will have the opportunity to debunk it. They've supposedly done a very good job of documenting what they have done, and will be able to support system" rel="">support their findings. How is that not unbiased? . Again, time will tell....so far 184 fraudulent votes out of 3 million. GO RV, then BV 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Again, time will tell....so far 184 fraudulent votes out of 3 million. GO RV, then BV You're not following the same information I'm getting. Last count, 311,000. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: and that there is no bias within it's ranks....especially not at the CEO level. GO RV, then BV Too bad you didn't find that an issue with two sham impeachments 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraj Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 12:13 AM, caddieman said: I thought there was supposed to be a Kraken released?🦖………..I must have missed it!😂😂😂 They meant..crack head .🙂 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 23 hours ago, nstoolman1 said: Too bad you didn't find that an issue with two sham impeachments Legit impeachments....Trump was saved by his majority party at the time, same as slick Willy....They were both guilty as hell. GO RV, then BV 1 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted July 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: Legit impeachments....Trump was saved by his majority party at the time, same as slick Willy....They were both guilty as hell. GO RV, then BV Legit Impeachment? Legit Impeachment? You're so funny! A legit impeachment is when it is Bipartisan, otherwise it is just a political hit job? . 1 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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