QAnon's Corrosive Impact On The U.S.

[Shabibilicious]

On 6/16/2021 at 4:00 PM, "Fred" said:

Anyone with even a pea brain knows these weren’t trump supporters 

 

I agree with this statement, "Fred".

 

GO RV, then BV 

[MyLadiesDaddy]

You recently asked why my attitude towards you is so sour. Well here you go, buy your own standards that you place on me. I've repeatedly expressed to you that I'm not a Trump supporter and you repeatedly accuse me of being one simply because of the subjects I do support. 

Here ya go big boy, this is  completely in line with everything you support and post. Thus I find your views despicable and dangerous to society. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Shabibilicious]

Fact check: False rumor that QAnon supporters buying tickets for Trump inauguration

 

 

Bayliss Wagner, USA TODAY

Sun, June 20, 2021, 1:05 PM

 

 

The claim: QAnon supporters are buying fabricated tickets for Donald Trump's second inauguration

Circulating on social media: a false claim about conspiracy theorists purchasing fabricated tickets to a fake presidential inauguration.

Social media users are mocking QAnon supporters for allegedly purchasing fake tickets to "The 2nd Inauguration of Donald Trump." A photo of the tickets included in the posts says the event will be held in front of the United States Capitol building this August with "special musical guest stars" Ted Nugent and Kid Rock, both of whom are vocal Trump supporters.

"Stupid is abundant with the Q crowd and the Trump fools," one Facebook user's post begins. "This is just INSANE on a whole other level! These 'tickets' are being sold for as high as $1,200 each on Q sites all over the internet, the crazy part is that people are talking about how excited they are because they’ve already purchased them."

 

"You’re being conned. A fool and their money will soon part."

But there is no con. USA TODAY found no evidence to suggest fabricated tickets were being sold or purchased online.

Users in several anti-Trump and liberal Facebook groups — including the Blue Wave 2022, Resist Trump, and Trump Zero — spread the claim. But the post that gained the most traction was a tweet from Pamela Apostolopoulos, which received more than 10,000 interactions.

 

USA TODAY reached out to several users who posted the claim for comment.

Claim related to QAnon belief

The claim is an outgrowth of QAnon supporters' false belief that Trump, not Joe Biden, is president.

QAnon followers say Trump is covertly fighting a satanic cabal of powerful people in government, media and Hollywood that participate in an international child sex trafficking ring.

Even though there is no evidence that QAnon followers are planning a second inauguration for Trump, the concept likely plays off a QAnon conspiracy theory that Biden did not legitimately win the election and that his inauguration was fake. USA TODAY has debunked those claims.

 

Some QAnon supporters falsely claimed Trump would be inaugurated as the rightful president March 4, leading Capitol Police to increase security measures that week.

No evidence tickets being sold

The purported photos of fake tickets to Trump's second inauguration have been digitally altered, a USA TODAY analysis found.

In the image, text with the event's details and price is in a different font than the rest of the ticket. The photo matches blank tickets on several stock photo websites, such as 123RF.

 

A sign supporting QAnon at a rally in Olympia, Washington in May 2020.

As Snopes reported, the image was first posted June 13 as a joke on 4chan, a message board where fringe groups and conspiracy theorists have been known to gather. A USA TODAY search of 4chan found no other posts mentioning tickets for a second Trump inauguration. No commenters on the original post expressed interest in buying or selling tickets.

 

Reuters found no trace of the tickets in QAnon groups on the messaging platform Telegram, either. A USA TODAY search also did not find mention of the tickets.

Our rating: False

Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that QAnon supporters are buying tickets to a fake Trump inauguration event. No evidence has been found in online QAnon groups that people are buying or selling these tickets. The photo in the social media posts is digitally manipulated.

Our fact-check sources:

• TinEye Reverse Image Search, June 15

• 123RF, accessed June 15, Stock Photo - Pair of Blank Concert Tickets Isolated on White Background

• Snopes, June 14, Fake Tickets to Trump's '2nd Inauguration' Circulate on Social Media

• Reuters, June 14, Fact Check-No evidence QAnon followers are buying fabricated ‘second inauguration’ tickets

• 4chan, June 14, Anonymous post (archived)

• 4plebs, June 14, Anonymous post

• @PamelaApostolo1, June 13, tweet

• USA TODAY, Jan. 13, Banned from Facebook and Twitter, pro-Trump extremists hatch Inauguration Day violence in dark reaches of the web

• USA TODAY, Jan 28, Fact check: No basis for claims that President Joe Biden's inauguration was faked

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-false-rumor-qanon-170550202.html

 

GO RV, then BV

[coorslite21]

19 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Fact check: False rumor that QAnon supporters buying tickets for Trump inauguration

 

 

Bayliss Wagner, USA TODAY

Sun, June 20, 2021, 1:05 PM

 

 

The claim: QAnon supporters are buying fabricated tickets for Donald Trump's second inauguration

Circulating on social media: a false claim about conspiracy theorists purchasing fabricated tickets to a fake presidential inauguration.

Social media users are mocking QAnon supporters for allegedly purchasing fake tickets to "The 2nd Inauguration of Donald Trump." A photo of the tickets included in the posts says the event will be held in front of the United States Capitol building this August with "special musical guest stars" Ted Nugent and Kid Rock, both of whom are vocal Trump supporters.

"Stupid is abundant with the Q crowd and the Trump fools," one Facebook user's post begins. "This is just INSANE on a whole other level! These 'tickets' are being sold for as high as $1,200 each on Q sites all over the internet, the crazy part is that people are talking about how excited they are because they’ve already purchased them."

 

"You’re being conned. A fool and their money will soon part."

But there is no con. USA TODAY found no evidence to suggest fabricated tickets were being sold or purchased online.

Users in several anti-Trump and liberal Facebook groups — including the Blue Wave 2022, Resist Trump, and Trump Zero — spread the claim. But the post that gained the most traction was a tweet from Pamela Apostolopoulos, which received more than 10,000 interactions.

 

USA TODAY reached out to several users who posted the claim for comment.

Claim related to QAnon belief

The claim is an outgrowth of QAnon supporters' false belief that Trump, not Joe Biden, is president.

QAnon followers say Trump is covertly fighting a satanic cabal of powerful people in government, media and Hollywood that participate in an international child sex trafficking ring.

Even though there is no evidence that QAnon followers are planning a second inauguration for Trump, the concept likely plays off a QAnon conspiracy theory that Biden did not legitimately win the election and that his inauguration was fake. USA TODAY has debunked those claims.

 

Some QAnon supporters falsely claimed Trump would be inaugurated as the rightful president March 4, leading Capitol Police to increase security measures that week.

No evidence tickets being sold

The purported photos of fake tickets to Trump's second inauguration have been digitally altered, a USA TODAY analysis found.

In the image, text with the event's details and price is in a different font than the rest of the ticket. The photo matches blank tickets on several stock photo websites, such as 123RF.

 

A sign supporting QAnon at a rally in Olympia, Washington in May 2020.

As Snopes reported, the image was first posted June 13 as a joke on 4chan, a message board where fringe groups and conspiracy theorists have been known to gather. A USA TODAY search of 4chan found no other posts mentioning tickets for a second Trump inauguration. No commenters on the original post expressed interest in buying or selling tickets.

 

Reuters found no trace of the tickets in QAnon groups on the messaging platform Telegram, either. A USA TODAY search also did not find mention of the tickets.

Our rating: False

Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that QAnon supporters are buying tickets to a fake Trump inauguration event. No evidence has been found in online QAnon groups that people are buying or selling these tickets. The photo in the social media posts is digitally manipulated.

Our fact-check sources:

• TinEye Reverse Image Search, June 15

• 123RF, accessed June 15, Stock Photo - Pair of Blank Concert Tickets Isolated on White Background

• Snopes, June 14, Fake Tickets to Trump's '2nd Inauguration' Circulate on Social Media

• Reuters, June 14, Fact Check-No evidence QAnon followers are buying fabricated ‘second inauguration’ tickets

• 4chan, June 14, Anonymous post (archived)

• 4plebs, June 14, Anonymous post

• @PamelaApostolo1, June 13, tweet

• USA TODAY, Jan. 13, Banned from Facebook and Twitter, pro-Trump extremists hatch Inauguration Day violence in dark reaches of the web

• USA TODAY, Jan 28, Fact check: No basis for claims that President Joe Biden's inauguration was faked

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-false-rumor-qanon-170550202.html

 

GO RV, then BV

 

This article is worthless.....no practicle value......a waste of space....

 

You did however get your little jab in for the day.....so good job.......just keep poking the Bear.......I'll quote your article.....

 

"Stupid is abundant with the Q crowd and the Trump fools," 

 

Guess many in here are "Stupid" and "Fools"............

 

CL

[Shabibilicious]

'QAnon Shaman' lawyer says all Americans had a role in U.S. Capitol riot

 

FILE PHOTO: Chansley protests following the 2020 U.S. presidential election, in Phoenix

Tue, June 22, 2021, 5:56 PM

 

 

By Jan Wolfe

(Reuters) - The participant in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" for his horned headdress argued through a lawyer on Tuesday that all Americans - and disinformation - are to blame for the deadly violence.

Jacob Chansley of Arizona is currently in federal custody awaiting trial on six criminal charges including violent entry and disorderly conduct.

 

He was one of hundreds of supporters of then-President Donald Trump who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 in an attempt to stop Congress from certifying President Joe Biden's election. Five people including a Capitol Police officer died in the violence.

In a court filing seeking Chansley's release from jail while he awaits trial, his lawyer, Albert Watkins, said the attack was the direct result of the divisive U.S. political climate.

Watkins said his client has become "inextricably and in perpetuity linked to an event which will become known not as a day of infamy, but as a day on which our nation was compelled to commence bellying up to the bar to acknowledge each of our roles in permitting, fostering, tolerating, endorsing or ignoring without action an ever increasing barrage of divisiveness, intolerance, untruths, misrepresentations, and mischaracterizations through an unrelenting multi-year propaganda odyssey."

Watkins said in an interview that his client was swayed by online disinformation and by Trump's rhetoric.

On June 10, federal agents transferred Chansley to a prison in Colorado where he will undergo a mental health evaluation to assess his competency to stand trial, according to a June 16 court filing submitted by federal prosecutors.

Watkins argued in Tuesday's court filing that prosecutors have intentionally ignored evidence that Chansley was not a leader of the Jan. 6 attack.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/qanon-shaman-lawyer-says-americans-215616289.html

 

GO RV, then BV

[Shabibilicious]

Exclusive-'QAnon Shaman' in plea negotiations after mental health diagnosis -lawyer

Sarah N. Lynch

Fri, July 23, 2021, 6:06 AM

 

 

By Sarah N. Lynch 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The participant in the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riots nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" is negotiating a possible plea deal with prosecutors, after prison psychologists found he suffers from a variety of mental illnesses, his attorney said. 

In an interview, defense lawyer Albert Watkins said that officials at the federal Bureau of Prisons, or BOP, have diagnosed his client Jacob Chansley with transient schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression and anxiety. 

The BOP's findings, which have not yet been made public, suggest Chansley's mental condition deteriorated due to the stress of being held in solitary confinement at a jail in Alexandria, Virginia, Watkins said. 

"As he spent more time in solitary confinement ... the decline in his acuity was noticeable, even to an untrained eye," Watkins said in an interview on Thursday. 

He said Chansley's 2006 mental health records from his time in the U.S. Navy show a similar diagnosis to the BOP's. 

A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office declined to comment on the case. 

Chansley is one of the most recognizable of the hundreds of Donald Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol after the then-president in a fiery speech falsely claimed that his November election defeat was the result of fraud. 

Chansley, of Arizona, was photographed inside the Capitol wearing a horned headdress, shirtless and heavily tattooed. He is a supporter of the QAnon conspiracy theory that casts Trump as a savior figure and elite Democrats as a cabal of Satanist pedophiles and cannibals. 

He faces charges including civil disorder and obstructing an official proceeding. 

Watkins did not say what Chansley was considering pleading guilty to, but defendants negotiating plea deals typically seek to plead to a less serious charge to reduce their potential prison sentences. 

Watkins said authorities will need to determine how Chansley can get access to the treatment he needs to "actively participate in his own defense." Pleading guilty to a charge negates the need for a trial, but defendants still have to be declared mentally competent to do so. 

Watkins said the BOP's evaluation of his client did not declare Chansley to be mentally incompetent, and he does not expect Chansley to be ordered to undergo what is known as competency restoration treatment. 

'CHOCOLATE SOUP MESS' 

Watkins said his client has expressed some delusions including "believing that he was indeed related directly to Jesus and Buddha." 

"What we've done is we've taken a guy who is unarmed, harmless, peaceful ... with a pre-existing mental vulnerability of significance, and we've rendered him a chocolate soup mess," Watkins said. 

Federal prosecutors have arrested more than 535 people on charges of taking part in the violence, which saw rioters battle police, smash windows and send members of Congress and then-Vice President Mike Pence running for safety. 

About 20 defendants so far have pleaded guilty to federal charges in connection with the attack, according to a government tally. 

Chansley is jailed as he awaits trial, after prosecutors convinced a federal judge he remains a danger if released. 

U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth in May ordered him to undergo a competency evaluation. 

As of July 5, he was one of 188 men and women undergoing an initial mental health evaluation to determine if they are competent to stand trial, according to BOP data. 

The BOP in 2017 was faulted by the Justice Department's inspector general for its use of special housing units to confine inmates with mental illness, and the BOP agreed to place limits on the amount of time inmates remain in restrictive housing and to ensure they have meaningful human contact. 

But the COVID-19 pandemic led the BOP to step up its use of solitary housing units as a way to quarantine inmates to contain the spread of the virus. 

A BOP spokeswoman said that inmates are sometimes held alone in a cell, but they are not cut off from human contact or services. 

"While we do have a need to place individuals in a single cell for various reasons, such as medical isolation, they have access to staff and programming," she said. 

These COVID-19 restrictions, Watkins said, is what led the BOP to place Chansley in solitary confinement. 

Seeking a competency evaluation for a federal inmate can be a slippery slope for defense attorneys. 

On the one hand, incompetent defendants cannot be prosecuted if they cannot understand the charges or assist in their defense. 

However, if a judge declares there is a preponderance of evidence to show a defendant is incompetent to stand trial, then the defendant is jailed because federal law requires inmates undergoing competency restoration treatment to be committed to a federal prison hospital. 

There are only three federal prison hospitals offering restoration treatment for male inmates, and the average wait time for a bed this year for men has been 84 days, according to BOP data.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-qanon-shaman-plea-negotiations-100653663.html

 

GO RV, then BV

[coorslite21]

10 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

Exclusive-'QAnon Shaman' in plea negotiations after mental health diagnosis -lawyer

Sarah N. Lynch

Fri, July 23, 2021, 6:06 AM

 

 

By Sarah N. Lynch 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The participant in the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riots nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" is negotiating a possible plea deal with prosecutors, after prison psychologists found he suffers from a variety of mental illnesses, his attorney said. 

In an interview, defense lawyer Albert Watkins said that officials at the federal Bureau of Prisons, or BOP, have diagnosed his client Jacob Chansley with transient schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression and anxiety. 

The BOP's findings, which have not yet been made public, suggest Chansley's mental condition deteriorated due to the stress of being held in solitary confinement at a jail in Alexandria, Virginia, Watkins said. 

"As he spent more time in solitary confinement ... the decline in his acuity was noticeable, even to an untrained eye," Watkins said in an interview on Thursday. 

He said Chansley's 2006 mental health records from his time in the U.S. Navy show a similar diagnosis to the BOP's. 

A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office declined to comment on the case. 

Chansley is one of the most recognizable of the hundreds of Donald Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol after the then-president in a fiery speech falsely claimed that his November election defeat was the result of fraud. 

Chansley, of Arizona, was photographed inside the Capitol wearing a horned headdress, shirtless and heavily tattooed. He is a supporter of the QAnon conspiracy theory that casts Trump as a savior figure and elite Democrats as a cabal of Satanist pedophiles and cannibals. 

He faces charges including civil disorder and obstructing an official proceeding. 

Watkins did not say what Chansley was considering pleading guilty to, but defendants negotiating plea deals typically seek to plead to a less serious charge to reduce their potential prison sentences. 

Watkins said authorities will need to determine how Chansley can get access to the treatment he needs to "actively participate in his own defense." Pleading guilty to a charge negates the need for a trial, but defendants still have to be declared mentally competent to do so. 

Watkins said the BOP's evaluation of his client did not declare Chansley to be mentally incompetent, and he does not expect Chansley to be ordered to undergo what is known as competency restoration treatment. 

'CHOCOLATE SOUP MESS' 

Watkins said his client has expressed some delusions including "believing that he was indeed related directly to Jesus and Buddha." 

"What we've done is we've taken a guy who is unarmed, harmless, peaceful ... with a pre-existing mental vulnerability of significance, and we've rendered him a chocolate soup mess," Watkins said. 

Federal prosecutors have arrested more than 535 people on charges of taking part in the violence, which saw rioters battle police, smash windows and send members of Congress and then-Vice President Mike Pence running for safety. 

About 20 defendants so far have pleaded guilty to federal charges in connection with the attack, according to a government tally. 

Chansley is jailed as he awaits trial, after prosecutors convinced a federal judge he remains a danger if released. 

U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth in May ordered him to undergo a competency evaluation. 

As of July 5, he was one of 188 men and women undergoing an initial mental health evaluation to determine if they are competent to stand trial, according to BOP data. 

The BOP in 2017 was faulted by the Justice Department's inspector general for its use of special housing units to confine inmates with mental illness, and the BOP agreed to place limits on the amount of time inmates remain in restrictive housing and to ensure they have meaningful human contact. 

But the COVID-19 pandemic led the BOP to step up its use of solitary housing units as a way to quarantine inmates to contain the spread of the virus. 

A BOP spokeswoman said that inmates are sometimes held alone in a cell, but they are not cut off from human contact or services. 

"While we do have a need to place individuals in a single cell for various reasons, such as medical isolation, they have access to staff and programming," she said. 

These COVID-19 restrictions, Watkins said, is what led the BOP to place Chansley in solitary confinement. 

Seeking a competency evaluation for a federal inmate can be a slippery slope for defense attorneys. 

On the one hand, incompetent defendants cannot be prosecuted if they cannot understand the charges or assist in their defense. 

However, if a judge declares there is a preponderance of evidence to show a defendant is incompetent to stand trial, then the defendant is jailed because federal law requires inmates undergoing competency restoration treatment to be committed to a federal prison hospital. 

There are only three federal prison hospitals offering restoration treatment for male inmates, and the average wait time for a bed this year for men has been 84 days, according to BOP data.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-qanon-shaman-plea-negotiations-100653663.html

 

GO RV, then BV

 

So CNN's poster child for the so called "insurrection" has a mental disorder.....the left should embrace the poor guy.......he knows not what he does.....😮    CL

[Shabibilicious]

19 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

 

So CNN's poster child for the so called "insurrection" has a mental disorder.....the left should embrace the poor guy.......he knows not what he does.....😮    CL

 

Buffalo boy is a Trumpkin through and through, and he's suffering from a mental disorder, which makes sense....I hope he gets deprogrammed from his trumpism, makes a full recovery, and leads a productive life in the world of normal folks.

 

GO RV, then BV 

[coorslite21]

12 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Buffalo boy is a Trumpkin through and through, and he's suffering from a mental disorder, which makes sense....I hope he gets deprogrammed from his trumpism, makes a full recovery, and leads a productive life in the world of normal folks.

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

Then I guess you believe all "Trumpkins" are suffering from mental disorders.....?

 

Isn't this Saturday?.....and you're posting?

 

What's next...?  Coming out of the basement with Old Joe?....

CL

[Shabibilicious]

8 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

 

Then I guess you believe all "Trumpkins" are suffering from mental disorders.....?

 

Isn't this Saturday?.....and you're posting?

 

What's next...?  Coming out of the basement with Old Joe?....

CL

 

I was a little bored...wondered if the regulars did anything outside of DV....now I know.  But to somewhat answer your question, I personally believe there's quite a difference between a Trump voter and a Trumpkin.

 

GO RV, then BV 

[coorslite21]

2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

I was a little bored...wondered if the regulars did anything outside of DV....now I know.  But to somewhat answer your question, I personally believe there's quite a difference between a Trump voter and a Trumpkin.

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

As a seasoned citizen retiree every day is a weekend for me.....

 

Still, I choose to be very active politically, socially and recreationally.....

I even have time for some investing fun...

 

Other than that, as the infamous B/A once suggested about me......

 

"coorslite21 probably lives in a box under a bridge and posts on his free Obama phone". 

 

I can tell you......life is pretty good under the bridge....

😮🤣😉

CL 

 

[Shabibilicious]

12 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

 

As a seasoned citizen retiree every day is a weekend for me.....

 

Still, I choose to be very active politically, socially and recreationally.....

I even have time for some investing fun...

 

Other than that, as the infamous B/A once suggested about me......

 

"coorslite21 probably lives in a box under a bridge and posts on his free Obama phone". 

 

I can tell you......life is pretty good under the bridge....

😮🤣😉

CL 

 

 

Hopefully they'll pass a stimulus bill and make your bridge safe for everyone. 

 

GO RV, then BV 

[coorslite21]

2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Hopefully they'll pass a stimulus bill and make your bridge safe for everyone. 

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

Sure.....what's another $3 trillion on top of $30 trillion...won't affect you or I......

 

Just screws over the kids and grand kids....but hey......why should we worry about that.....right?

CL

[Markinsa]

Leftism and Mental Illness: New Statistical Evidence

[miraj]

31 minutes ago, Markinsa said:

Leftism and Mental Illness: New Statistical Evidence

Very extreme and odd website..seems like super paranoia on steroids

Edited July 25, 2021 by miraj
misspelling

[Shabibilicious]

1 hour ago, Markinsa said:

Leftism and Mental Illness: New Statistical Evidence

 

Says the people who voted for, and still bow at the feet of a....game show host.  Silver spoons for everybody. 

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

 

[nstoolman1]

3 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Says the people who voted for, and still bow at the feet of a....game show host.  Silver spoons for everybody. 

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

 

Says the person who voted for a senile old man and a opportunistic woman who couldn't win a nomination for president