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9 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

The same argument can be made for flat earth. Let me show you.

 

"The US Navy has been bouncing laser from the FLAT (geocentric) Earth surface to man made Flat (geocentric) Earth satellites in Flat (geocentric) Earth CIRCUIT then back to the Flat (Geocentric) Earth surface with high precision since the 1970's."

 

I made mention of what the US Navy did to demonstrate the Flat Earth proponents use FALSE information and deception so the issue of the laser:

 

2 hours ago, PeaceSign said:

why do chicagoans see a green beam of light from japan?

 

is likely an elaborate hoax.

 

12 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

"The physical Flat (geocentric) Earth world as we know it would be possible without simultaneous Globe Earth phenomena simultaneously existing."

 

"The Globe Earth is a conspiracy to dumb people down so we can ALL pick out who the "affected" are."

 

The SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth is PROVEN TRUE AND a Flat Earth is PORVEN FALSE.

 

NONE of the Flat Earth postulation have EVER proven to be TRUE.

 

12 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

How is it false doctrine? Believing in NASA science is false doctrine.

 

NO ONE needs NASA to prove or disprove a SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth.

 

8 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

Again, where is the video, i mean i want to watch it, i have the time to.  So as an independent researcher i should be able to acknowledge this myself, not blindly believe it.

 

WHAT, pray tell, is there to "see". Fifteen (15) degrees per hour of 360 degrees is undetectable by the naked eye. Also, the video would need to be taken from a reference point to capture an entire twenty-four (24) hour rotation. Due to the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth orbiting around the sun, a satellite would be difficult to position to exactly capture the full twenty-four (24) hour rotation of the earth. Satellites up to geosynchronous orbit of nominally 19,000 miles and even beyond geosynchronous orbit to an extent are orbiting around the SPHERICAL (geoidal) earth.

 

14 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

we are not spinning. but the sun is going around us in a 24 hour period in a circuit, above a fixed earth.

 

This is entirely incorrect. If so, the sun would rise and set at the North and South Poles depending on a person's location on a Flat Earth. We ALL know that does NOT happen.

 

8 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

if the vacuum of space were real then everything would be imploding in on itself. it isn't real.

 

Molecular bonds are what keeps various materials together so, NO, EVERYTHING would NOT be imploding in on itself.

 

The pressure at the surface of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth is nominally 14.696 pisa due to the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's gravity acting on the gases at the surface of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth. As elevation increases, so does the pressure decrease until the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's upper atmosphere where the pressure drops to near zero (psia).

 

13 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

Becaue if a true vacuum is in play then everything would be smashed toghether. No vacuum. And not everything that rises falls.

 

For gaseous components, the atmosphere is maintained from the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth to the upper atmosphere in decreasing pressure due to the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's gravity.

 

16 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

Helium and Neon hang out up at the top

 

Helium has a low atomic density and is a very small hard sphere atom. As a result, helium can and does escape the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's atmosphere and, eventually, gravitational pull.

 

17 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

and the satellites that do fly in the air need gas which is why they have gas.

 

Nonsense for satellites orbiting a SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth above the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth atmosphere.

 

19 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

Now most of the satellites are fixed because the earth is flat.

 

Nonsense due to the gravity. IF the Earth IS Flat, the satellites would fall back to Earth WITHOUT constant propulsion acting against the Flat Earth pull (IF the Earth is Flat).

 

23 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

This is why when you visit flagstaff you see those towers on top of the mountain cuz they need the high point for the signals to pass. its flat and the "satellites" are on tops of buildings and mountains.

 

Signal structures are placed in areas where there is reduced atmospheric distortion for transmitting signals so that is why signal structures are placed on top of buildings and likely why some are located in Flagstaff, Arizona. Flagstaff wouldn't be the ONLY location to send and receive satellite signals on a SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth.

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16 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

I made mention of what the US Navy did to demonstrate the Flat Earth proponents use FALSE information and deception so the issue of the laser:

 

 

is likely an elaborate hoax.

 

 

The SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth is PROVEN TRUE AND a Flat Earth is PORVEN FALSE.

 

NONE of the Flat Earth postulation have EVER proven to be TRUE.

 

 

NO ONE needs NASA to prove or disprove a SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth.

 

 

WHAT, pray tell, is there to "see". Fifteen (15) degrees per hour of 360 degrees is undetectable by the naked eye. Also, the video would need to be taken from a reference point to capture an entire twenty-four (24) hour rotation. Due to the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth orbiting around the sun, a satellite would be difficult to position to exactly capture the full twenty-four (24) hour rotation of the earth. Satellites up to geosynchronous orbit of nominally 19,000 miles and even beyond geosynchronous orbit to an extent are orbiting around the SPHERICAL (geoidal) earth.

 

 

This is entirely incorrect. If so, the sun would rise and set at the North and South Poles depending on a person's location on a Flat Earth. We ALL know that does NOT happen.

 

 

Molecular bonds are what keeps various materials together so, NO, EVERYTHING would NOT be imploding in on itself.

 

The pressure at the surface of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth is nominally 14.696 pisa due to the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's gravity acting on the gases at the surface of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth. As elevation increases, so does the pressure decrease until the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's upper atmosphere where the pressure drops to near zero (psia).

 

 

For gaseous components, the atmosphere is maintained from the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth to the upper atmosphere in decreasing pressure due to the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's gravity.

 

 

Helium has a low atomic density and is a very small hard sphere atom. As a result, helium can and does escape the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's atmosphere and, eventually, gravitational pull.

 

 

Nonsense for satellites orbiting a SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth above the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth atmosphere.

 

 

Nonsense due to the gravity. IF the Earth IS Flat, the satellites would fall back to Earth WITHOUT constant propulsion acting against the Flat Earth pull (IF the Earth is Flat).

 

 

Signal structures are placed in areas where there is reduced atmospheric distortion for transmitting signals so that is why signal structures are placed on top of buildings and likely why some are located in Flagstaff, Arizona. Flagstaff wouldn't be the ONLY location to send and receive satellite signals on a SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth.

 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, bigwave said:

Look at the Nile river run "up-hill":

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Look where Kenya is- down by the equator so the longest river in the world runs up hill when it only has a drop of about 1 foot the whole way:

 

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So, OK, Bigwave, WHY, pray tell, THEE LIES AND STUPIDITY???!!!

 

THIS has ALREADY been covered in THIS thread.

 

17 minutes ago, bigwave said:

Look where Kenya is- down by the equator so the longest river in the world runs up hill when it only has a drop of about 1 foot the whole way:

 

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Nile

River in Africa
 
 

Description

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The Nile is a major north-flowing river in northeastern Africa. The longest river in Africa, it has historically been considered the longest river in the world, though this has been contested by research suggesting that the Amazon River is slightly longer. Wikipedia
Length: 4,132 mi
Basin size: 3,400,000 km2 (1,300,000 sq mi)
 
In the Nile’s case, its source is Lake Victoria, located in the Tanzania, Uganda and Kenya region of Africa, at an elevation of 3,724 feet, or 3,955 miles to the center of the Earth. It then flows 4,258 miles northward to its terminus in Alexandria, Egypt, at an elevation of 16 feet, or about 3,954 miles to the center of the Earth. The total decent from start to finish, 3,708 feet – slightly less than three-fourths of a mile with approximately 0.87 of a foot drop per mile on average (3,708 divided by 4,258 = 0.87). Influence of Earth’s curvature, none. 
 
 
So, INSTEAD of BigWave, YOU, BigWave, ARE BigLIE!!!
 
The Nile has nominally one (1) foot DESCENT PER MILE NOT one (1) foot DESCENT THE WHOLE WAY!!!
 
The article gives a great description about how the Nile "appears" to run uphill but does NOT run uphill.
 
The SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's center of mass and center of gravity is, well, the center of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth. The low angular velocity of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth is fifteen (15) degrees of 360 degrees per hour so has NO effect on the downhill path (with relation to the center of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth) from the Nile river sources inside Africa to the Mediterranean Sea.
 
So, OK, BigLIE, ALL You have done is regurgitate Flat Earth LIES AND LIKEWISE FALSE Doctrine.
 
Reasonable AND established principles have been applied to show Flat Earth postulations are just plain STUPID.
 
So, BigLIE, WHY, pray tell, the baseless opinionated badgering rhetoric???!!!
 
Are YOU, BigLIE, opposed to TRUTH, Logic, Decency, Reason, AND, of course, Common Sense???!!!
 
QUESTION:
 
WHERE, pray tell, are the photos showing the sun rising and setting over the North and South poles on various places on the surface of the Earth TO SUGGEST A FLAT EARTH???!!!
 
ANSWER:
 
There, OBVIOUSLY, are NOT any photos showing the sun rising and setting over the North and South poles on various places on the surface of the Earth TO SUGGEST A FLAT EARTH SINCE THE EARTH IS SPHERICAL (geoidal) IN SHAPE.
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Guglielmo Marconi
Guglielmo Giovanni Maria Marconi, 1st Marquis of Marconi was an Italian inventor and electrical engineer, known for his pioneering work on long-distance radio transmission, development of Marconi's law, and a radio telegraph system.
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Then the ionosphere was invented. LOL 
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33 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

How can an Eastbound passenger plane catch its destination if it can only travel at half the speed of the earth?

 

"Because it's obviously not spinning under the plane".

 

Any East/West variations in time of travel is due to prevailing wind currents at the time and elevation of travel. Different elevations have different wind speeds, wind directions, and air density differences. Gravity focused on the center of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth acts on the plane and the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth atmosphere. Depending on the plane's cruising speed and available wind currents, a plane's ground speed could be significantly different from East to West OR West to East OR North to South OR South to North.

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11 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

 

 

 

 

 

Do YOU REALLY believe THIS STUPID STUFF???!!!

 

WITHOUT GRAVITY, objects of differing densities WOULD NOT MOVE RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER!!!

 

Objects of different densities in space WITHOUT the influence of a gravitational body LIKE THE SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth WOULD NOT MOVE RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER!!!

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4 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

Any East/West variations in time of travel is due to prevailing wind currents at the time and elevation of travel. Different elevations have different wind speeds, wind directions, and air density differences. Gravity focused on the center of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth acts on the plane and the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth atmosphere. Depending on the plane's cruising speed and available wind currents, a plane's ground speed could be significantly different from East to West OR West to East OR North to South OR South to North.

 

its because its not moving that the plane arrives at the destination

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2 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

Do YOU REALLY believe THIS STUPID STUFF???!!!

 

WITHOUT GRAVITY, objects of differing densities WOULD NOT MOVE RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER!!!

 

Objects of different densities in space WITHOUT the influence of a gravitational body LIKE THE SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth WOULD NOT MOVE RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER!!!

 

i literally don't know what your saying. but it can all be answered without gravity

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8 minutes ago, bigwave said:

Then the ionosphere was invented. LOL 

 

The direction of travel of radio waves are affected by the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's atmosphere so no big deal wireless radio waves can travel great distances across the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth.

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2 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

So, WHY, pray tell, take THESE clips out of context AND STRING LIES???!!!

 

Synopsis,

 

Why do you care so much that it is a ball? For the sake  of argument...what if all the "theories" cuz that is what they are, if copernicus and newton (who were juniors in college by the way) if they told you themselves hey don't believe the hype, what would you do then?

 

Does it really mean that much to you that it is a globe? and why?

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7 minutes ago, bigwave said:

Okay ionosphere was invented, but how is it the VHF and Loran can bean around the "curvature" 1,500 miles?

 

Natural, occurring, and predictable phenomena based on estimates of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's atmospheric conditions from transmission to reception.

 

WHAT, pray tell, more of an TRUTHFUL, Logical, Decent, Reasonous, AND, of course, Common Sense explanation is needed???!!!

 

WHERE, pray tell, are the photos of the sun rising and setting at the North AND South Poles at various places on Earth IF the Earth is Flat???!!!

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6 minutes ago, PeaceSign said:

 

i literally don't know what your saying. but it can all be answered without gravity

 

Gravity is the basis for objects of different density to move relative to each other. The concept of no gravity is just STUPID.

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1 minute ago, Synopsis said:

 

Natural, occurring, and predictable phenomena based on estimates of the SPHERICAL (geoidal) Earth's atmospheric conditions from transmission to reception.

 

WHAT, pray tell, more of an TRUTHFUL, Logical, Decent, Reasonous, AND, of course, Common Sense explanation is needed???!!!

 

WHERE, pray tell, are the photos of the sun rising and setting at the North AND South Poles at various places on Earth IF the Earth is Flat???!!!

 

why do you think the sun has to rise and fall from the north and south... flat earth does not say that

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Why are all moon craters perpendicular?

NASA confirms water on sunlit surface of Moon for 1st time | water in moon

The largest crater on the moon is  Mare Imbrium over 1300 km - huge to say the least.

 

So big we can see it with the naked eye and it is 259,000 miles away!

 

As Jed Clampett told Jethro once "Boy you got some good eyes."

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