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Hey tjokie, I believe it was Jefferson, who said (not quoting) that the beginning of the downfall of any country like the US is when the people realize they can take largess from the treasury for free. And we have been there a large part if not all of my 70 years here on earth.

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1 hour ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I can explain it in one word, DOMINION. We haven't been electing our political figures for decades. 

I was going to say something to that effect but...

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1 hour ago, lisashafer said:

Please, again, for the umpteenth time, knock it off with the political statements!

 

Unfortunately politics are in everything these days....even in the IQD

Investment sector....best if you just tune it out....JMO

CL

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7 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Because one thing the last couple of weeks should have shown us all is that the world leaders don't give a dammmmm about us little people. 

 

Just for clarity, are You ACTUALLY suggested we are ALL just peons getting peed on???!!!

 

Go Moola Nova!

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4 hours ago, md11fr8dawg said:

Hey tjokie, I believe it was Jefferson, who said (not quoting) that the beginning of the downfall of any country like the US is when the people realize they can take largess from the treasury for free. And we have been there a large part if not all of my 70 years here on earth.

 

Former The United States Of America President Thomas Jefferson may have said it while Alexander Fraser Tytler appears to be the originator of the quote.

 

Alexander Fraser TytlerAlexander Fraser Tytler > Quotes

 

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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
 Alexander Fraser Tytler
 
 

Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee

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Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee FRSE was a Scottish advocate, judge, writer and historian who served as Professor of Universal History, and Greek and Roman Antiquities at the University of Edinburgh. Wikipedia

Born: October 15, 1747, Edinburgh, United Kingdom

Died: January 5, 1813, Edinburgh, United Kingdom

Parents: William Tytler

Profession: Advocate, Judge, Writer, Historian

Children: Patrick Fraser Tytler, James Fraser Tytler, William Fraser Tytler, Jane Fraser Tytler

 

Go Moola Nova!

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24 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

Former The United States Of America President Thomas Jefferson may have said it while Alexander Fraser Tytler appears to be the originator of the quote.

 

Alexander Fraser TytlerAlexander Fraser Tytler > Quotes

 

Alexander Fraser Tytler quotes Showing 1-4 of 4

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
 Alexander Fraser Tytler
 
 

Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee

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Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee FRSE was a Scottish advocate, judge, writer and historian who served as Professor of Universal History, and Greek and Roman Antiquities at the University of Edinburgh. Wikipedia

Born: October 15, 1747, Edinburgh, United Kingdom

Died: January 5, 1813, Edinburgh, United Kingdom

Parents: William Tytler

Profession: Advocate, Judge, Writer, Historian

Children: Patrick Fraser Tytler, James Fraser Tytler, William Fraser Tytler, Jane Fraser Tytler

 

Go Moola Nova!

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Frighteningly accurate!

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3 hours ago, lisashafer said:

Please, again, for the umpteenth time, knock it off with the political statements!


Weegie For Reality Czar ! :o 

 

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:D  :D  :D 

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1 hour ago, Synopsis said:

 

Just for clarity, are You ACTUALLY suggested we are ALL just peons getting peed on???!!!

 

Go Moola Nova!

:pirateship:

 

 

 

In small government, we are CITIZENS and we have a voice.

 

In large governments, we are SUBJECTS  and we DO get pissed on.

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Thanks for finding that Synopsis, it was spot on. The point to take from this whole discussion, is we the people elect our officials. They work for us. How we forget that, so when the "officials" start giving away freebies paid for with our $$, many of the recipients have not paid into the system, (no skin in the game) but are reaping the benefits of free shiite. Thus the tide turns to where we get a permanent class of scumbag corrupt politicians who remain in their position by giving away OPM which they either took thru taxes or created out of thin air via QE and $$ printing. And down the bankrupt rabbit hole we go.

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6 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

 

Unfortunately politics are in everything these days....even in the IQD

Investment sector....best if you just tune it out....JMO

CL

 

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IQD is ALL politics. So is pretty much everything else associated with money.

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5 hours ago, yendor said:

 

 

 

In small government, we are CITIZENS and we have a voice.

 

In large governments, we are SUBJECTS  and we DO get pissed on.

 

Looks like it is all how one chooses to hold themself as being under the Pursuit Of Life, Liberty, AND The Pursuit Of Happiness (Citizen - LEGAL, of course) OR being ruled over as bleeple sheeple ("subject").

 

cit·i·zen
/ˈsidizən,ˈsidisən/
 
noun
 
  1. a legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth, either native or naturalized.
    "a Polish citizen"
     
    • an inhabitant of a particular town or city.
      "the citizens of Los Angeles"
       
      sub·ject
       
      noun
       
      /ˈsəbjekt/
      1. 1.
        a person or thing that is being discussed, described, or dealt with.
        "I've said all there is to be said on the subject"
         
      2. 2.
        a branch of knowledge studied or taught in a school, college, or university.
        "math is not my best subject"
         
      adjective
       
      /ˈsəbjekt/
      1. 1.
        likely or prone to be affected by (a particular condition or occurrence, typically an unwelcome or unpleasant one).
        "he was subject to bouts of manic depression"
         
      2. 2.
        dependent or conditional upon.
        "the proposed merger is subject to the approval of the shareholders"
         
      adverb
       
      /ˈsəbjekt/
      1. conditionally upon.
        "subject to bankruptcy court approval, the company expects to begin liquidation of its inventory"
         
      verb
       
      /səbˈjekt/
      1. 1.
        cause or force to undergo (a particular experience of form of treatment).
        "he'd subjected her to a terrifying ordeal"
         
      2. 2.
        bring (a person or country) under one's control or jurisdiction, typically by using force.
        "the city had been subjected to Macedonian rule"
         
        Yeah, I am a Citizen (noun) NOT a "subject"  (verb).
         
        Go Moola Nova!
        :pirateship:
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